Wow the production quality on this video is INSANELY good.. but you can't compare charging without knowing how the charging works. The "supercharging" cable was RIGHT NEXT to the one you used!!! You "tried everything" except for using the correct cable haha.The Harley should take under an hour to fully charge, and the Zero should be a little more than an hour. Around the track at the end, for a true comparison of what the BIKES can do, the same person would have to ride all of them. Right now you're just comparing riders. Overall the video was really entertaining and you both are fun to watch, but the presentation of the bikes was very misleading. Please please please make another one!

I set my ride preferences all to maximum on my SR/S Zero. I find it to be the best way to get it all. I actually feel the Zero is very easy to maneuver. For the braking I leave my regeneration at max for coast and braking. I only use my brakes to make the final stop. The brakes will probably last forever. I level 2 charge my SR/S at Tesla Destination chargers and ChargePoint chargers.

"We tried everything to charge the bike" Except using the correct charger. I mean it was right there.

4.3k subs and the production quality is what i'd expect from million sub channels. Amazing, keep it up. The content is absolutely top notch.

I came here for a 1vs1 video and I got soooo much more. I wasn’t expecting the fun dynamic of the reviewers and I love all the information given to me. I wish more review of items were this fun.

Great video. Subscribed. There is a learning curve to charging but one should not buy an electric bike without first doing one's homework. It is not as difficult as you made it seem in this video.

Finally a head to head comparison on these 2 bikes where... THEY ACTUALLY RACE HEAD TO HEAD! Thanks guys. Great vid

Silly "test", of course. But I Do think electrics are the future. But the year in which they outsell petrol bikes, they will be very different from these two. I would actually buy a 2016 - 2021 Zero S for less than half the price, charge it at home at night and use it during the day for everything but long trips. For that you still need a gas vehicle. I would worry about spending so much money on a bike which could become obsolete in a few years if a major battery technology breakthrough happens.

12:00 WTF? Going to the wrong charging station and not having a clue about this essential part of EV use is no reason to award one of the bikes a win on charging.

Both bikes look good and let's face it an electric Harley is a huge leap for them. However, less is more.

Wasn't a real world test but was fun anyways and I'd have to agree with the result as I've got an srs 😂 . Thanks. ☺

For me ergonomics come first. What are the forward lean angles? Hip and knee bend angles? I do realize those numbers will vary based on height of rider but average data would be useful.

Yea Harley fix the changing part (maybe fast charging next time) and you might have bern King in Electric Race!

Did you switch to sport mode for the racing? I would expect so, but since you only mentioned eco mode it isn't clear.

Brilliant video would love to see Macrais Z8X London Uk Electric CBT Z1000

Please add Energica to the test!

Made in the US but evaluated elsewhere...ugh. Can't anyone get a comparison here in the states...

It was marginaly fun to watch. But the charging. OMG. You have CCS on the Harley. That was the other cable. Why didn't you read the manual! Hope when you test Energica, you do this the right way. That fills up in 20min!

Fun video... I wonder... Does the the fairing on the SR/S actually offer any wind protection? Looks pretty small to me.

You should've switched bikes for each challenge. Riding skill was not equal. Julia is a doll.

You each should have ridden both bikes on the track for a real test

What is with the tape on the Charge port flap on the Harley? Did it break already?

Now put an energica experia next to those two .. and there is no competition anymore .. the experia is good quality and fast charging like livewire . But has more range and much better service than the zero .. time time time ...

Make some Drag Race and Lap Time videos 🏁

I don't understand why a company lies about the range. Every buyer is going to do a test drive anyway, so you might as well be honest about the range.

11:00-11:01 I didn't realise that phrase was used in Germany!

Julia DOES NOT know how to apex a turn or ride a race track. The Livewire is capable of a WAY faster lap time than that.

AS AN OL SCOOTER FREAK THAT ADORED FLATHEADS, I'M STILL TRYING TO DEAL WITH NO SOUND! AND LIKE OTHER EV'S THAT ARE NOT TESLA'S CHARGING DIFFICULTIES ARE IMMENSE. PART OF A SATURDAY RIDE WITH PEEPS IS THE FUN ASPECT, I KNOW AT SPEED THE ELECTRIC'S ARE SUPERIOR AND PERHAPS MORE COMFORTABLE, BUT THEN WE GOTTA ALL WAIT FOR A LONG TIME; LUNCH IS EASY, RATHER THEN JUST FILLING UP AND GOING HOME. I'M A SOUND FREAK ALSO. THINK, AT THIS TIME, ICE SCOOTERS ARE MORE FUN, MAYBE.

This is entertaining but so flawed. The Livewire charges much faster than the Zero if you are using a Level 3 charger. Also, she seemed to be riding slower and not as skilled as him in the races. He is scraping his knees in the corners, she is riding safer and slower. So... not really helpful.

Do they both weigh the same? The Zero won the drag race and it was carrying the guy. Is it safe to assume he weighs more than she does?

I love their chemistry

Funny I got a Livewire because it charges so much faster on level 3. Little bit of a injustice to to a strength of the Livewire.

Missed third great bike off...Energica

Races mean sh*t for the bike. It is 98% the rider. I good rider on this track can beat a R1 with a 125 cm³ scooter.

At this point I only see electric bikes being good as commuters like going to work everyday where you have a set distance and you have all night to charge before each trip. As for recreational rides with no set distance or for road trips I wouldn't even think about using an electric bike.

What jacket (model name) are you wearing, Kai?

Oh Boy, haetten sich die Tester etwas kundiger gemacht, wie ein EV Motorrad geladen wird, also Level 1, 2 und 3, hätten sie wahrscheinlich die richtige Ladestation / das richtige Ladekabel fuer die Livewire ausgewählt! Ich habe eine Livewire, und das Gefaehrt lädt bis auf „voll“ in unter einer Stunde, wenn an einen DC Lader (Level 3) angeschlossen. Die Zero kann mit Level 3 nichts anfangen, da sie auf höchstens Level 2 ausgelegt ist...

How come you used a Dutch bike?

Due moto bellissime✌

bellissima moto✌

Well obviously as the test proves the Harley-Davidson has better speed to the line and better braking

Harley davidson OFF ROAD!! CRAZY

I rode both and I liked the zero better, better range, faster charging, better wind protection, more versatile, and most important less expensive! Zero all day, you just have to adjust how you ride.

Are electric motorcycles going to be the next big thing? Answers below please

First of all, great video and very dynamic editing. Shure you missed out on some opportunities for a better comparability (driver skills etc), but I'd like to focus on the charging issues. Just to be clear, the infrastructure is a key factor for the success of EVs but shouldn't be taken into account if you're trying to compare the bikes themselves. In many cases the infrastructure is to blame for not properly working, even if the bikes/cars would totally be capable of using said fast charging. Just as a side note, the shown charging stations are located in Germany, and charging can be quite frustrating here since there are MANY different providers for the chargers and not every card/Phone app will work with every charger. There are only some that will give you access to a wide spectrum (well distributed network of chargers across Ger./EU) of charging stations (like "EinfachStromLaden" from Maingau). It would've been way easier for you to do the same test in i.e. the Netherlands, there it's more like "one card fits all", even your standard debit-card would work. But enough of that, I think it became pretty clear what I mean. Now I'd like to cut you guys some slack, since you're getting a lot of comments stating "you used the wrong cable on the Harley". Even though they're correct about the fact that the HD LiveWire features a CCS-charge port, we need to be more precise about that. Because like the ZERO doesn't come with the fastest charging as standard so does the LiveWire not provide the CCS-option on all models. If I'm not mistaken and you look very closely at the charge port of the HD (10:25) the DC-Ports of the CCS are nowhere to be seen (otherwise we could see two distinct large round pins of the DC-receptacle for the CCS-plug). That makes me think that you never had a chance of using the full charging speed potential since you didn't even have the CCS-optin on that particular bike. The HD technician you called (as stated below mvetter comment) could by no means help you to get the CCS to work, since the bike was not equipped with it. On the other hand I'm pretty sure that this technician could have given you that exact information if he'd look up the VIN of your bike in his HD-service-system. Best regards Max Jäger P.S.: If you'd have switched the ZERO and the HD after some failed attempts tho quick-charge the HD on the Type2 plug, you might have been able to get some juicy 12kW of charging speed out of the ZERO. (the charging station used to charge the ZERO wasn't able to provide the charging power that the bike would be able to use)

Euer ernst?! Den falschen Stecker nehmen und sich dann wundern, dass die Harley Stunden brauch um aufzuladen. (TYP2 statt CCS) Mit CCS läge die Harley vorn... Es reicht halt einfach nicht der Presse die Maschinen in die Hand zu drücken und drauf los zu fahren. Eine Handvoll Infos vorher sind absolut nötig.

Lol the girl made the whole video so much fun to watch

Didnt see that coming. Your both wearing orange and black.

no thanks. I'll take a diavel please.

I'd take the Zero any day over the Harley... oh wait, I already did.

Dudes... first up.. i like the grading on the vid. cinematography also 👍🏼 And emotions are also nice. But then... why do you do a testride on a small track or showing how to charge with ppl who have no f.. clue about? Even the ADAC expert talks BS. Ahhhh really don't get me wrong i respect your eforts you put into to create this vid. But there is lots of kinda "bashing" because you have not suficient skils or knowledge to given the bikes any rateing. I really don't want only complain. Please next electric testride, call for an expert who knows right. (like me 😎😂) BTW i id not found any motorcycle dealer who let me do a testride on a RR, R1 or Panigale. Guess how the rating would looks like? Maybe there is a reason? BTW again... I really don't like comments like this on my own channel. 😁😂 LOL but i just need to drop the emotions i carry after watching. I hope my complains will help you in a useful and constructive way for the next electric test.

This is less a comparison than a demonstration of why it's a waste make videos about things you couldn't be bothered to learn anything about. Next time, find random people walking the street and give them the keys, it will be just as informative.

Lol just because you didn't have a fast charge station you give it to zero? Lol zero doesn't have level 3 charge

LiveWire !

How come you're both speaking English when you're both German? I thought you would have both spoken German with English subtitles

There's something about a hot girl in biker gear that's nice :D

Yea but it didn’t need a charge 😎 and if solar charging gets better it may not need to be plug in 🤫😂😂😂

Jesus, the amount of EV snob chuds in the comments are amazing. Cool video

One day journalists will understand using the word "gas" when describing EVs sounds silly at best.

Just fooling yourself get a mountain bike or a horse simples or ski yaa

this was the worst 'comparison' I've ever seen. They should have swapped bikes at each event....

I was about giving a like suddenly i realized this is dw, so i dislike, great content anyway

bikes still over priced

You two are novice riders and ride poorly.