Harvard Becomes Latest School To Reinstate Standardized Tests For Undergrads

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3 ай бұрын

Harvard University announced Thursday it will once again require standardized test scores for undergraduate admissions, the latest-and most high-profile-higher education institution to reverse its test-optional policy spurred by the Covid-19 pandemic.
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@jerrymiller9039
@jerrymiller9039 2 ай бұрын
Too little too late. Their credibility is long gone
@HenrySavageMode
@HenrySavageMode 2 ай бұрын
no it's not.
@TheVietnam0725
@TheVietnam0725 2 ай бұрын
​@@HenrySavageMode yes it is
@BC-vt2nv
@BC-vt2nv 2 ай бұрын
I wonder if they are pumping out the airplane mechanics these days😅😅
@HenrySavageMode
@HenrySavageMode 2 ай бұрын
@@TheVietnam0725 is that why their acceptance rate is less than 4% this year? Is that why it ranks #4 in employability? Its recent troubles will have little impact on its long term credibility
@duinay3
@duinay3 2 ай бұрын
Yup, they are a joke 😂
@D_B6
@D_B6 2 ай бұрын
Doesn't take a genius.I hope this finally stops people from thinking that Harvard is the gold standard. Harvard sold out, and I say this despite having family members who are alumni. So many previously admired institutions remain for sale-disgusting.
@CHMichael
@CHMichael 2 ай бұрын
It's not what you know but whom you know . There are still plenty of companies that will only hire from specific schools.
@Bringthewinter
@Bringthewinter 2 ай бұрын
@@CHMichaelpossibly the same companies who like laying off their workers by the droves.
@edwinrivera5335
@edwinrivera5335 2 ай бұрын
How do legacy students typically score on the SAT? I would imagine high due to various factors. But I am actually curious since I don't quite understand how legacy admissions work being the first in my family to attend college. Less than ~4% of the population where I live attend college so I probably can't even ask others around.
@thespadestable
@thespadestable 2 ай бұрын
@@edwinrivera5335 - Pretty simple. If your parent or grandparents graduated from any Ivy League or Drool School, their offspring are considered "legacy" admissions. They don't get an automatic entry, but they are moved to the front of the line, with special consideration. Nothing wrong with the concept.
@rickstevenson9585
@rickstevenson9585 2 ай бұрын
They’re all for sale lol.
@muddymo7641
@muddymo7641 2 ай бұрын
And it's simple. And keep the bs out of it
@victoza9232
@victoza9232 2 ай бұрын
Standards. What a concept.
@nev.catalyst7478
@nev.catalyst7478 2 ай бұрын
I guess they realized standards were not waycist after all
@salepromo
@salepromo 2 ай бұрын
Except that a single point in time, such as a standardized test, isn’t always representative of the student. I got good, but not phenomenal, scores on my ACT. I think 27 or 26. I went to college and got a 3.95 over the course of four years and graduated summa cum laude. Why? Because I busted my butt and put in the work. I failed my first organic chemistry exam, badly. But I got an -A through hard work in class, the homework, and lab. People are more than one single test, and I think using that for admissions is detrimental to a lot of great students
@victoza9232
@victoza9232 2 ай бұрын
@@salepromo That's why SAT scores have always been assessed along with GPAs and other factors, such as extracurricular activities. Having a test is better than not having one. A standardized test measures the abilities of all students equally, hence the term "standardized." However, one may be a good student, but choke on tests. Ideally, the admissions board would take that into consideration Sure, we can all improve over time, but admissions boards doing longitudinal studies on students would be impossible and impractical. A snapshot of the student's abilities at that "single point in time" is more practical. We all have to perform in the clutch at times, whether it be a test or a job interview. With a job interview, you often get one shot, and can't go back a few weeks later exclaiming, "Wait! Wait! I'm better now. Give me another chance!" 😄
@salepromo
@salepromo 2 ай бұрын
@@victoza9232 I appreciate the well worded reply. A few things though. I understand where your coming from, performing in the moment is important, and these tests are standardized like you say, to provide the most even assessment and whatnot. I think in a perfect world, colleges would require one or the other. You would get a chance to prove who you are. As for the job interview, I also think they stink, but there’s not much you can do about ‘em.
@victoza9232
@victoza9232 2 ай бұрын
@@salepromo Why choose one or the other? It's stronger when they're combined, as it gives a more complete picture of the applicant. A good student SHOULD be able to do well on the test, and doing well would back up that student's GPA. Check out those 'man on the street" interviews with college students. It's appalling and disheartening how utterly stupid many of these college kids are, and it really makes me wonder how they ever got into college in the first place. They can't answer simple questions like, "How many weeks are in a year" or "What's 3 cubed" or "Name three other countries besides the U.S." Lowering standards, like removing SATs from the mix, will only lead to more of this craziness. I'm glad to see Harvard is reinstating the SAT. It's a start.
@pascalouellette8516
@pascalouellette8516 2 ай бұрын
Merit based test have always been one of the best tools for student enrollment
@trackgrad08
@trackgrad08 2 ай бұрын
Best? Ha!
@sonaliv1489
@sonaliv1489 2 ай бұрын
Yes best. gpa is a horrible tool for students selection, it can be inflated easily. Extra curriculars too can be made up as we saw the lori loughlin case.
@jackm8556
@jackm8556 2 ай бұрын
@@trackgrad08 "one" of the best. read.
@darscassel
@darscassel 2 ай бұрын
How much does it cost to prepare for these exams? 😂😂😂 It’s all a joke
@oddlypositive3602
@oddlypositive3602 2 ай бұрын
They'll be sure to plagiarize people with actual skills and talent I am sure.
@trackgrad08
@trackgrad08 2 ай бұрын
Yep! ChatGPT papers and cheating to the left and to the right!
@VerifiedVIPMember
@VerifiedVIPMember 2 ай бұрын
All college kids are doing it with AI now.
@whiteorchid5412
@whiteorchid5412 2 ай бұрын
You mean like the way Melania Trump blatentently plagiarized the speech Michelle Obama wrote?
@Avarcirith
@Avarcirith 2 ай бұрын
I had no idea schools even got rid of these. What the heck?
@bobmahnamahknob
@bobmahnamahknob 2 ай бұрын
The DEI movement was (is) all about that. I think we may be seeing the other side - I sure hope we make it.
@lizhongshen
@lizhongshen 2 ай бұрын
Because math is racist.😂
@malhunt7
@malhunt7 2 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂​@@KathleenHenson-hy6sg
@loridavis5699
@loridavis5699 2 ай бұрын
Just like Boeing all their planes are galling apart in the air due to DEI
@theophrastus3.056
@theophrastus3.056 2 ай бұрын
OMG! That's barely even the half of it: Their President was a DEI hire with little actual postgraduate work, and a portion of that included plagiarized material. And she couldn't quite bring herself to criticize the genocide of Jews! Harvard is a 🤡🌎!
@alicemattsen2208
@alicemattsen2208 2 ай бұрын
They sure have lots of excuses. Money and politics speak louder than truth.
@cmeflywva
@cmeflywva 2 ай бұрын
Exactly, that's how Kushner was accepted into Harvard. His father donated $3 million to Havard right before Kushner applied to Harvard.
@Cha-y412
@Cha-y412 2 ай бұрын
Harvard is like the FBI, once a great American institution, now just a bad joke.
@SushiGaming_YT
@SushiGaming_YT 2 ай бұрын
how is the fbi a joke
@Juicedude502
@Juicedude502 2 ай бұрын
The FBI was never great tho always been dirty and undermined the actual citizens and only protected the government
@grantog123
@grantog123 2 ай бұрын
​@SushiGaming_YT guess they aren't maga enough for trump supporters.
@Cha-y412
@Cha-y412 2 ай бұрын
@@KathleenHenson-hy6sg Yours was fried along time ago
@BWolf00
@BWolf00 2 ай бұрын
@@SushiGaming_YT The FBI shattered the illusion they were a non-partisan justice department...they are now wholeheartedly an institutional swamp creature.
@robertMSP19
@robertMSP19 2 ай бұрын
ALL THESES contortions and sophistry-----all because we can't admit and see what's right in front of us.
@kirerunte1046
@kirerunte1046 2 ай бұрын
People hate truth and morals and they worship money like God and these are the consequences, enjoy
@jimlongino8420
@jimlongino8420 2 ай бұрын
It's about time. How else can they compare potential students fairly?
@mstarthelich6381
@mstarthelich6381 2 ай бұрын
Harvard sucks
@Omen465
@Omen465 2 ай бұрын
All colleges suck its a scam
@whiteorchid5412
@whiteorchid5412 2 ай бұрын
I'm guessing you aren't a Harvard graduate...lol
@D.N..
@D.N.. 2 ай бұрын
Why would anyone want to attend a nut house like Harvard ?
@Krack2805
@Krack2805 2 ай бұрын
yea look at ben shapiro LOL
@grantog123
@grantog123 2 ай бұрын
Like Ted Cruz?
@VerifiedVIPMember
@VerifiedVIPMember 2 ай бұрын
For puSSY
@cmeflywva
@cmeflywva 2 ай бұрын
​@grantog123 Ron DeSantis going to Yale as an undergraduate and Havard Law School. Mitt Romney, Ted Cruz, and Tom Cotton all went to Harvard. Those globalist the Republican party hates so much and spreads misinformation has a fine member - John Kennedy from Louisiana. He went to Oxford University and used to brag about it until it became uncool. These individuals are telling the general public that people shouldn't go to colleges, especially Ivy League school because they're full of leftist communists who hate our country and don't put America first. They had no qualms about going to these "fancy leftists schools who spread nothing but hatred and destroy the Constitution and democracy. But yet they went and they're sending their children to these fancy leftist learning universities, yet they claim the sole intention of these institutions are to destroy the country. They tell YOU AND YOUR CHILDREN not to go to college because you'll be groomed and indoctrinated. Have you ever wondered why they went to these schools but tell you not to go? Why are telling not to let your children not to go? Because they don't want you to be educated. If you learn, you can question, and utilize critical thinking. They will have complete control and you won't have the education to recognize what they're doing. They're already successful. Read the comments - they're all full of negativity about Ivy league schools and the "leftists" that go there. They're not only being negative about Ivy league schools but any college. You're being distracted by their rhetoric and as a result they're taking advantage of you.
@BWolf00
@BWolf00 2 ай бұрын
Most are "nut houses" but some provide serious bragging rights and perceived economic benefits...so Harvard and the like provide a person a leg up. This type of thing will never change, even if Harvard fails, another will take it's place. The solution make them all "state" universities...and that's sure to kill America's standing on the world's educational stage.
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@jeffbox1torres 2 ай бұрын
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@staceyere 2 ай бұрын
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@makeroftoys
@makeroftoys 2 ай бұрын
Not one school uses standardized testing exclusively. MIT specifically allows a percentage of students admission who have done badly on the SAT…But who shines brightly in other areas. Standardized testing is one tool used to understand student potential.
@Krack2805
@Krack2805 2 ай бұрын
imagine being logical in front of an audience of fox viewers LOL
@sandman38111
@sandman38111 2 ай бұрын
Maker of toys: That's sensible..
@sandman38111
@sandman38111 2 ай бұрын
​​@@Krack2805 Hey Mr. Deplorable here Want to give me a go? Now I understand MSNBC and The View perceive conservatives as shall we say the shallow end of the gene pool ? What would you like to discuss? You pick the topic but can we stay away from science ? We all know that conservatives don't believe in science so that topic would be unfair to me. I can understand if you want to avoid talking about math being all icky and racist and stuff. History ? Hmmm.. from umm what point of view ? The conquered or the conquerors ? That would just bring up that whole stolen land thing... Then I'd have to use the example of the Ben & Jerry's thing... And then we'd probably run into the sticky topic of slavery, where Bill Maher said it best "everyone who could afford to own a slave had a slave"...ok.. no history.. Geopolitics !!! We could talk about how 25 years of NATO encroachment towards Russia and Western influence in the Ukraine led to what would have and Should have been a brief regional dustoff . But once again thanks to Western..aka NATO interference how the whole thing has blossomed bringing us to the brink of WWIII !! Nahhh.. then I'd have to bring up the part of the NATO charter that specifies NATO can only provide non member nations with defensive military aide but if they fast track Ukrainian membership then NATO can send Troops to Ukraine !!! Won't that be fun ?? Yeah we probably better not talk... After all, I'm really too busy clinging to my Bible and guns and admiring that stupid old flag... Do have a good evening and don't be so condescending...
@Roundpeg-Squarehole
@Roundpeg-Squarehole 2 ай бұрын
You know they'll still be admitting under qualified people on the down low.
@randomcertainty2079
@randomcertainty2079 2 ай бұрын
They didn't say anything about eliminating points preferences or racial considerations.
@yawbamoah2217
@yawbamoah2217 2 ай бұрын
Haven’t they done that already?
@pumpkinface8151
@pumpkinface8151 2 ай бұрын
You mean pity points for "equality"
@eehlohluell
@eehlohluell 2 ай бұрын
​@yawbamoah2217 if they did on paper, they most certainly haven't in practice. You can't stop crappy people from being crappy just by telling them they are crappy and should stop being crappy. It took this long to find out the President of Harvard was corrupt, and that's a highly public position, imagine how many students and professors have been flying under the radar straight out of these institutions that most definitely rode off their once earned prestige. It is not the place to be anymore, it hasn't been, and it's just now their house of cards are collapsing over them.
@georgesheffield1580
@georgesheffield1580 2 ай бұрын
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@malhunt7
@malhunt7 2 ай бұрын
​@@pumpkinface8151😂😂😂 fool
@aln5832
@aln5832 2 ай бұрын
End legacy admissions.
@markj9544
@markj9544 2 ай бұрын
When affirmative action went terribly wrong.
@Keshly16
@Keshly16 2 ай бұрын
I'm confused, it's no longer a thing. Why are you keep talking about it? FOLLOW THE FUCKING NEWS!
@malhunt7
@malhunt7 2 ай бұрын
Legacy admissions = affirmative action. Zero difference.
@immigrant6902
@immigrant6902 2 ай бұрын
They are trying to do it honestly? Hard to believe.
@teresaodle857
@teresaodle857 2 ай бұрын
If you want an education nothing will stop you, if you dont nothing will make you.
@edwinrivera5335
@edwinrivera5335 2 ай бұрын
If we want education to be the route to success then we should make access to a high quality educational across the country. Try learning history or math in a dilapidated classroom with old books and a teacher who doesn't understand your culture at home and thinks you are dumb because the results of a test taken by you in your less resourced school is being compared to those of the students who have access to some of the best resources not just in their state but sometimes better equipment and material than other countries.
@shadygunshow
@shadygunshow 2 ай бұрын
I mean - Google? Everybody got that right?!?!
@Krack2805
@Krack2805 2 ай бұрын
yea if u wanna be a useless conspiracy brain thats usually too poor to not be selfish, go for it.
@tboy80z
@tboy80z 2 ай бұрын
​@edwinrivera5335 That why diversity doesn't work. Teacher shouldn't be forced to know youe culture at home. Why do people demand quality where certain groups live? That is racist.
@edwinrivera5335
@edwinrivera5335 2 ай бұрын
@@tboy80z you can't take away someone's culture. Not even yours if you try. It's a part of our every day. And think about your statement deeply and reflect on it for a minute.
@FlexibleFlyer50
@FlexibleFlyer50 2 ай бұрын
Grade inflation is rampant in grade schools and high schools across the US. Social promotion is the norm. When you have a US Congresswoman saying the moon is made of gases, then you know the education system has failed a large segment of society. The SATs are needed to show how much students have actually learned throughout their schooling, and the test has always proven to be a good indicator of how students will perform in college. Time to reset things and look at hard core academics and not volunteer work, community organization, sports, etc.
@sandman38111
@sandman38111 2 ай бұрын
Hey, isn't she of the same party as Hank Johnson who asked a full on 4-star Navy admiral if Guam would tip over ? I admire Admiral Willard..How he didn't fall over laughing....I know I did
@melbournechugging2999
@melbournechugging2999 2 ай бұрын
Better go to a community college
@alonzosurrette3717
@alonzosurrette3717 2 ай бұрын
What? That's not even close to being correct. Go to Harvard. If you can get into an Ivy or Stanford (or MIT if it pays), then go. If you can't get in, then you're right. State schools are probably a better option.
@stevecooper7883
@stevecooper7883 2 ай бұрын
​@@alonzosurrette3717State schools are useless. Community College degrees are just as good for employment, which isn't saying much. Harvard and Ivy League schools are more for the networking and nepotism than for the degree
@scarlett1481
@scarlett1481 2 ай бұрын
why look down on community colleges? it’s just an option for people that can’t afford to pay the outrageous tuition these institutions require, community colleges have more credibility than ivy leagues nowadays anyways
@WorldifySanity
@WorldifySanity 2 ай бұрын
Better to go to a trade school. Unless you're going to college for a specific degree like medicine, law, STEM, etc, it's useless.
@viaaustralia5388
@viaaustralia5388 2 ай бұрын
Employing anybody from Harvard would be completely foolish.
@DECEPTICON33
@DECEPTICON33 2 ай бұрын
Well then you need to go to the Capitol Hill and go to the Senate and to the House of Representatives and go and kick out a lot of people because most of them were hired because they went to Harvard aside from the fact that also they ran campaigns that were dubious probably in many cases and a lot of them happen to be from Red States so let's be real as they say.
@Educated2Extinction
@Educated2Extinction 2 ай бұрын
People have always been hired based on connections, and that's what Harvard is all about.
@TylerG393
@TylerG393 2 ай бұрын
​@@Educated2Extinctionto what extent? For corporate jobs I absolutely agree with that, but for low/mid level state/federal positions you get the job if you meet the criteria.
@grantog123
@grantog123 2 ай бұрын
​@@TylerG393people from ivy league schools aren't applying for those jobs though.
@g.t.richardson6311
@g.t.richardson6311 2 ай бұрын
@@Educated2Extinction to some extent true, especially for first job It also works against you at other companies. For a couple years my dad recruited for one top 10 banks for corporate and commercial loan officers, (then he went back into his regular job there in that department ).. Human Resources had nothing to do with hiring these positions, line officers did it because they knew what they wanted and who was successful….. they were not interested in any Ivy League except Penn. too many hires that didn’t work out.
@Brian-qg9bm
@Brian-qg9bm 2 ай бұрын
HARVARD?! ick. Is that still a thing?
@malachiwhite5955
@malachiwhite5955 2 ай бұрын
I’m so confused why they took them away I go to an hbcu and you got to have at least a 26 on the ACT
@MichaelCyrus88
@MichaelCyrus88 2 ай бұрын
Ah yes. Segregation schools. Racist.
@nev.catalyst7478
@nev.catalyst7478 2 ай бұрын
because they were sold the idea that the tests were waycist
@TXFarmRoad
@TXFarmRoad 2 ай бұрын
DEI Backfire
@tboy80z
@tboy80z 2 ай бұрын
I know why. Thats because chosen (cant say the word) is worried about pro Palestinian groups rising so they are now pushing for Trump to win and pushing for silly left wing polices out of universities etc. I notice things like that who really rules/runs us. I wish our people would wake up and band as one but we NEVER do. All other groups do but us. Makes me sad. Smh
@tboy80z
@tboy80z 2 ай бұрын
Funny my comment got banned.
@TXFarmRoad
@TXFarmRoad 2 ай бұрын
@@tboy80z Not surprised... I find that's a regular occurrence
@apophisxo4480
@apophisxo4480 2 ай бұрын
As much as we hate taking them, they are definitely the best way (currently) to predict future performance. Poor test taking skills for whatever reason, anxiety, poverty, abuse at home, still predicts future performance better than any of the currently available alternatives.
@_mergg
@_mergg 2 ай бұрын
Remember when Harvard thought calling for Intifada was permissible? Pepperidge Farms remembers.
@pascalouellette8516
@pascalouellette8516 2 ай бұрын
Forbes seems afraid to have a news caster of these negative to liberal headlines and instead uses a type of AI generated text and music...
@RMBlake007
@RMBlake007 2 ай бұрын
Reminds me of Oregon recriminalizing hard drugs. Ooops, that didn't work out like we thought...gotta go back now. It's NEVER easy going back once damage is done folks!!
@kopashamsu9913
@kopashamsu9913 2 ай бұрын
Also end legacy admission, it's a pure nonsense.
@wilfdarr
@wilfdarr 2 ай бұрын
I don't have a degree and I knew exactly how well this would go, so how did a bunch of Harvard educators not understand how that was going to go? Maybe they're not the school you want educating your kids after all...
@MrVarsityphysics
@MrVarsityphysics 2 ай бұрын
The world is healing, but never forget who sold out
@WilliamsPinch
@WilliamsPinch 2 ай бұрын
We did SAT and ACT prep from sophomore year when I was in high school. I don’t think there were ever any honor students who weren’t banking on those scores qualifying them for college admission. What a weird time.
@tjackson2411
@tjackson2411 2 ай бұрын
Ok cool-Does anyone know the artist or group playing in the background music?
@kashmoney7421
@kashmoney7421 2 ай бұрын
Imagine the beauty of being in a competition in which you are the player and the ref and the commissioner and can just set any rules any time you want and interpret existing rules anyway you want. I mean is there really anyway you can lose 😂
@Drganguli
@Drganguli 2 ай бұрын
Standardized tests were key to what made the US higher education system great. I know guys who were weak in SAT English and math and opted for Canada or Australia as international students as they could not do the SAT well. The fact that SAT math with complex numbers is required for studying humanities and social science in the US shows the high education level. And the high end vocabulary needed for the reticent and taciturn STEM majors!
@hellokittyninja5968
@hellokittyninja5968 2 ай бұрын
Hear Australia is really weak in higher education
@Drganguli
@Drganguli 2 ай бұрын
@@hellokittyninja5968 yes but there are some good universities but these are few in number
@INTERNERT
@INTERNERT 2 ай бұрын
anyone have a source for the music?
@grantog123
@grantog123 2 ай бұрын
It's awesome right?
@lhaley9873
@lhaley9873 2 ай бұрын
They've proved how easily superior feeling people are brainwashed.
@boinknook
@boinknook 2 ай бұрын
my co-worker's son graduated a school that didn't even require a standardized test to get in. He applied to many law schools and all accepted him. His father couldn't afford the tuition so they chose the cheapest one.🤭 Today he's a practicing attorney. It's called the American dream folks.❤
@GRB777
@GRB777 2 ай бұрын
The background music is great. I wish they'd list the track title and artist.
@sifuentest987
@sifuentest987 2 ай бұрын
Dancing away Altitude music
@GRB777
@GRB777 2 ай бұрын
@@sifuentest987 Thank you!
@sunburntsatan6475
@sunburntsatan6475 2 ай бұрын
They think it's their undergrads? Maybe it's more likely to be many tenured faculty acting poorly without consequence or scrutiny. You're better off somewhere else, anyway.
@tamarascharck6927
@tamarascharck6927 2 ай бұрын
Seriously they should require them of everyone attending who did not take them to get in!
@nirradical
@nirradical 2 ай бұрын
What the hell... They seriously stopped requiring ACT and SAT scores?
@tupak169
@tupak169 2 ай бұрын
I attended Stanford with a SAT score of 1560. I was fuming when they lifted the requirement during COVID.
@IIINickodemusIII
@IIINickodemusIII 2 ай бұрын
Thank you Forbes for another power point presentation
@buixote
@buixote 2 ай бұрын
Good news for the testing companies.
@marie22213
@marie22213 2 ай бұрын
Everyone should be tested for evrything. Im 29 and remeber taking tests for eveything & i enjoyed it. Hard or not, it PROVED to MYSELF that i was capable. No one speaks on self judgment they just thinkmof someone grading the papers. If your never challeneged then how would you knowmif yiu really know anything. I think thats why this nee generation reads a book or takes a class & their experts. Not just because they're narcs nut when you grow up never being tested by anyone,even yourself ehyay else can tou do besides say " yup i took the class & i know now". Id have no idea what i really need to improve in if i wasn't tested in life.
@fidesedquivide3486
@fidesedquivide3486 2 ай бұрын
Stop hiring affirmative actioned staff members too. Fire the ones you have.
@aln5832
@aln5832 2 ай бұрын
I agree. Legacy admissions suck. People like Trump and Jared Kushner didn’t have the smarts for college only resources.
@eehlohluell
@eehlohluell 2 ай бұрын
Completely agree. That Harvard President didn't get there by accident, she got there because these people allowed and encouraged it when they should have been meticulous about the merit of these people, rather than their sob stories or whatever else they've been using to choose their diversity hires. Utterly disgusting institution.
@fidesedquivide3486
@fidesedquivide3486 2 ай бұрын
@@aln5832 : At least their checks paid for a lot of scholarships. Legacy administration is a fact of life, better than the PC admissions. Those subpar students and staff members are not the abused slaves, they are from either third world countries or rich Americans.
@TheVietnam0725
@TheVietnam0725 2 ай бұрын
​@aln5832 I agree with eliminating legacy admissions, but.....reading comprehension is hard. The comment was about affirmative action. You knew that though, you're just obsessed with DT and couldn't help but bring him up.
@designereyebags
@designereyebags 2 ай бұрын
@@TheVietnam0725and you’re still about vietnam, a war we lost, given your username. didn’t get that camaro after getting your leg blown off? 😂
@Grayson950815
@Grayson950815 2 ай бұрын
lol an “Ivy League” without standardized tests??….
@cracktmonkey3472
@cracktmonkey3472 2 ай бұрын
I feel it's going to be ten years until you can trust a Harvard graduate to be worth much.
@carolbradley6826
@carolbradley6826 2 ай бұрын
It’s about time and it should be done every year in HS. We need to take responsibility for education rather than just moving through schools. When I was in school it was very simple - if you pass you pass and if you fail you fail. If this can be restored in HS, then the colleges wouldn’t need to HAVE to administer standardized test. And, that’s the truth!
@stoneymcneal2458
@stoneymcneal2458 2 ай бұрын
Bottom line, there will be a substantial number of not-so-well educated people who will have passed through Harvard’s doors before they reinstate entrance standards.
@otisspunkmeyer9339
@otisspunkmeyer9339 2 ай бұрын
Go to a community college you’ll get a better education that doesn’t cost squat and YOU WONT GET RADICALIZED
@Krack2805
@Krack2805 2 ай бұрын
lol talking about college like they know anything
@kopashamsu9913
@kopashamsu9913 2 ай бұрын
Lmao no.
@williamwatterson8711
@williamwatterson8711 2 ай бұрын
Is this a reaction to DEI?
@dreichert1438
@dreichert1438 2 ай бұрын
It's a reaction to lowered standards of education. How in the hell are you going to admit someone to one of the most esteemed universities in the country without standardized testing? We couldn't leave high school without It whether we were going to college or not
@ianswift3521
@ianswift3521 2 ай бұрын
nope they still have claudine yay on the payroll...
@JBBost
@JBBost 2 ай бұрын
@@dreichert1438 There are pitfalls to standardized testing that leave out a lot of people, especially poor people
@garretmorris6237
@garretmorris6237 2 ай бұрын
Yes, but in a deceptive way.. SAT scores have a 98.6 % correlation rate to standard IQ scores, if you score a perfect SAT (1600) your IQ is 150-155. Too many blk students don’t do well in this category, even if they have perfect GPAs. One can’t exactly study for SATs/ACTs, one could increase it by 5-7% but that’s just because your getting your full potential out, through heavy studying
@dreichert1438
@dreichert1438 2 ай бұрын
@@JBBost well if you don't Have a proper education it would be pretty hard to get through Harvard wouldn't it? Not to mention a complete waste of taxpayers money paying for your education when a degree from most any college will suffice these days. But I do understand what you're saying. We need to raise the standard of high school education instead of lowering the standard of college education from which people are expected to have careers that entail being good enough at your job for others lives to depend on it. No excuse
@jennieg.8943
@jennieg.8943 2 ай бұрын
Regardless of who you accept- it’s who you graduate and sign off on as having your university’s brand- you own it. There are a lot of graduates from these universities making a mockery of your university brands. Graduate them responsibly, please.
@FunnyTCDTCDFunny
@FunnyTCDTCDFunny 2 ай бұрын
Still don't want any kids in our family to go to Harvard ! 0 respect, 0 trust !
@alexanderdantonio8999
@alexanderdantonio8999 2 ай бұрын
What?! You mean understanding core educational curriculums like science math computers and reading comprehension IS important when trying to get into uni. Shocking!
@georgesheffield1580
@georgesheffield1580 2 ай бұрын
You mean the legacy kids will have to start paying a substitute to take the SAT for them again , wow!
@JayJnohyphen
@JayJnohyphen 2 ай бұрын
Nobody's falling for the class argument anymore and it's hurting Asian and Indian Americans who arent rich more than anything
@kennethbellotte8678
@kennethbellotte8678 2 ай бұрын
I can't believe it was ever an option to not test and just get past because hey.....we paid
@hectorquintana5219
@hectorquintana5219 2 ай бұрын
All universities need to utilize ACT and SAT scores accordingly. Testing is a means, one means of determining do you qualify? Your melanin count does not matter. Do you qualify ?
@sandman38111
@sandman38111 2 ай бұрын
Hey Hector. I didn't take the SAT or ACT. I was rejected by the university I wanted to attend . So like a good Marine I outflanked them. I enrolled in a couple summer courses, Bio 101 then Bio 102. Scored an A and a B.. I presented my grades to the admissions office and they welcomed me for the fall term. Maybe if universities offered that option??
@edsloan8535
@edsloan8535 2 ай бұрын
"We are reinstating standardized testing but delaying it for 5 years...."
@theophrastus3.056
@theophrastus3.056 2 ай бұрын
Too late! Their reputation is already beyond repair. This is rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.
@darthnihilus511
@darthnihilus511 2 ай бұрын
That didn’t take long. They have much more to do
@johnlansing2902
@johnlansing2902 2 ай бұрын
What about the only thing that matters … DEI ? Surgeons picked by DEI ? Plane mechanics picked by DEI ? Or is the school no longer super liberal ?
@NiccaGeorge
@NiccaGeorge 2 ай бұрын
Yea after ruining the name by letting anyone who checked the right victim boxes and giving them degrees they didn't earn. Yea after ruining the institution they now want to make amends.
@wilsonhasalastname3381
@wilsonhasalastname3381 2 ай бұрын
I would like to see transparency what demographic shift would occur.
@michaeldill7620
@michaeldill7620 2 ай бұрын
Oh golly gee Beaver. We should apply now.
@preferanonymous
@preferanonymous 2 ай бұрын
The SAT and ACT are incredibly useful for places like Harvard. Someone scoring in the top 5-10% on those tests *definitely* has an incredibly high aptitude. Scores below that range, though? Eh, not as useful to anyone any more.
@chillie2552
@chillie2552 2 ай бұрын
Yes!! I’m back in business-made a small fortune tutoring students for the SATs-side note-love the music-does anyone know the name of this instrumental beautiful music?
@VerifiedVIPMember
@VerifiedVIPMember 2 ай бұрын
Amazing. Imagine having standards for an ivy league school?
@davinxi5926
@davinxi5926 2 ай бұрын
Why make it requirement and then option and then required again
@stephenberthiaume8848
@stephenberthiaume8848 2 ай бұрын
I guess if you don't perform well on standardized tests then GFY?
@hunterkline7972
@hunterkline7972 2 ай бұрын
I’m glad my school didn’t have this or else I wouldn’t have been able to get into college
@iborg7301
@iborg7301 2 ай бұрын
I have faith in Harvard’s ability to find a “back door” process to insure DEI is part of the admissions equation.
@rickhalverson2252
@rickhalverson2252 2 ай бұрын
We will consider test scores along with "other factors"... Wow! That school should lose all accreditation and funding. Shut that asylum down.
@peteshour768
@peteshour768 2 ай бұрын
The application is simple to get accepted. The first space says, Print Name. Keep it simple and just do what it says. Print: NAME. You will be sure to be accepted.
@Surannhealz
@Surannhealz 2 ай бұрын
As a progressive, at some point you end up asking yourself, “has anything I believed in actually panned out?” 🤔
@shariqnaqvi86
@shariqnaqvi86 2 ай бұрын
I clicked this clip for the music
@pacoo3712
@pacoo3712 2 ай бұрын
Can the students that failed out because of the removal of standards sue? They were lied to and promised that college was their best option in life but after years of wasted money and time they're actually set back in life.
@chad5893
@chad5893 2 ай бұрын
This was implemented because of and during covid. All this did was remove the testing threshold because of the limitations placed because of covid. What are you talking about?
@ellenlee1
@ellenlee1 2 ай бұрын
@@chad5893 how does a student with low test score compete with those with a high test score? The school is stealing their money. Now they have no degree and a big loan to pay off.
@Blank-zz2eq
@Blank-zz2eq 2 ай бұрын
​@@chad5893looks like a lot of people forgot that one it was only supposed to be for the year covid hit when they started closing schools and sending everyone home to home school it should have been given the next year but they've tried to pretend it's something new and everything is not about DEI those tests just prove you actually learned something in high school and didn't just float through
@Blank-zz2eq
@Blank-zz2eq 2 ай бұрын
If you went and took philosophy or some remedial business classes or just went and got an associates degree in tree hugging that's your fault if you took nursing or something in the medical field became a lawyer or an accountant ,a teacher something needed and worth spending the money on them you have a job all college majors don't lead to jobs and big bucks if you go use your head and major in something that gives you a job it's simple
@JBBost
@JBBost 2 ай бұрын
@@Blank-zz2eq That's a very short-sighted view that I think even you would disagree with if you saw the results of a world without liberal studies
@randallgoldapp9510
@randallgoldapp9510 2 ай бұрын
People have to know how well they are doing. These tests give them some idea.
@JohnD-JohnD
@JohnD-JohnD 2 ай бұрын
Are they admitting they were wrong? Instead of lowering the bar for some people... They should look into how to help those people reach the bar. Lowering the standard isn't helping anyone.
@logickedmazimoon6001
@logickedmazimoon6001 2 ай бұрын
How is lowering the standards not helping people?
@JohnD-JohnD
@JohnD-JohnD 2 ай бұрын
@@logickedmazimoon6001 When you lower the standards, you don't push people to try harder. You fail to bring out the best in people, and in some circumstances, when standards are lowered, you put lives in danger.
@logickedmazimoon6001
@logickedmazimoon6001 2 ай бұрын
@@JohnD-JohnD That doesnt reflect reality. Sat and act scores correlate closely with how much wealth someone may have and thats because they have access to far more resources and time. It only brings out the wealthy, not the best
@michellemaxine100
@michellemaxine100 2 ай бұрын
Who were they pressured by to do this?
@deaddropsd1972
@deaddropsd1972 2 ай бұрын
Even the club has standards 👠
@irynatrach8361
@irynatrach8361 2 ай бұрын
What’s with the background music? It’s very distracting.
@tiffanybarbee9316
@tiffanybarbee9316 2 ай бұрын
The music is nice
@danielosullivan3110
@danielosullivan3110 2 ай бұрын
Great idea. We should have done this years ago 😂
@bluejaykilla6197
@bluejaykilla6197 2 ай бұрын
They've officially capped themselves living in the old world.
@JeffSherlock
@JeffSherlock 2 ай бұрын
Okie dokie, and what about students paying their bills? Might we return to those well-justified days.
@mannyistheman2221
@mannyistheman2221 2 ай бұрын
Standards are like Dominoes. If you knock one down the rest follow
@EarlHall-zi4cm
@EarlHall-zi4cm 2 ай бұрын
Should never have gotten rid of standardize tests to begin with. To think, They paid some genius to implement that lousy idea. Now to restore their credibility and standards they are back to where they should not have left
@cesarmo469
@cesarmo469 2 ай бұрын
Will they have a race-based DEI system to “eliminate” racism?
@batsonelectronics
@batsonelectronics 2 ай бұрын
Holly shit, back in the 80's when I graduated HS, Harvard was hard to get into. You needed a 25+ ACT score. ( same as Georgia Tech where I wanted to go ) No wonder the quality of people graduating there has gotten shitty, money gets anyone in, not a proper high score on the sat/act. Well, that explains Ted Cruze's law degree.
@RandyRibbon
@RandyRibbon 2 ай бұрын
The LSAT was not among the tests made optional.
@ParticleLarry
@ParticleLarry 2 ай бұрын
Who's Ted Cruze?
@Keshly16
@Keshly16 2 ай бұрын
You kidding, back in the 80's all you needed was connections. If you were black and had a decent background story with a decent GPA, BOOM! you are in.
@Keshly16
@Keshly16 2 ай бұрын
In the 80's the acceptance rate was around nearly 40 percent, wtf are you talking about?
@batsonelectronics
@batsonelectronics 2 ай бұрын
@@artandarchitecture6399 back in the 80's, 18 was average for schools like Alabama and Georgia, 25 was for Ivy league. The ACT scoring is different now.
@sheilawolters1125
@sheilawolters1125 2 ай бұрын
Another words, Do not except Harvard Graduates, until 2034 for a 4 year graduate you can trust learned what there degree states.
@winnepeterson6570
@winnepeterson6570 2 ай бұрын
Well, I would hope so!!
@JuanSanchez-tu3dc
@JuanSanchez-tu3dc 2 ай бұрын
No Federal research money or guaranteed student loans for colleges using DEI. No federal government hiring or any graduates from these places. We’ll see how far their endowment gets them.
@JoeBob189
@JoeBob189 2 ай бұрын
I don't think anyone would be sad if Harvard closed down for good
@russellromig8969
@russellromig8969 2 ай бұрын
DEI SAT tests are what, 1st grade testing?
@lopezb
@lopezb 2 ай бұрын
Good! The tendency has been for the standards to drop. This is one more very useful metric. Also, I doubt if people can cheat when taking those tests. A friend of mine gets applications to her university and all the Letters now sound the same. She put the question into ChatGPT and that’s exactly what it produced. Needless to say, they don’t get accepted.
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