How to get rid of digital sharpness in your video | 5 Tips

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Harv Video/Audio Stuff

2 жыл бұрын

In this video I want to check out 5 ways to reduce the digital, over sharpened look you can get in video footage. I wanted to experiment a bit and find out what the best options are for de-digitising the look of video, in the end it was a combination of things we can do in camera, whilst filming and then during editing to achieve this.
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0:00 Intro
1:18 Camera settings
2:15 Lens apertures
4:38 Filters
6:09 Editing trickery?
7:00 Resolution?
8:31 Doggy bag of tips
9:40 Final Results

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@Wunderbaum64
@Wunderbaum64 2 жыл бұрын
I am a fan of Your channel. Rhythm, English style (low arousel), content, knowledge, relevance, no coffee drinking or making, no excessive smartness or self promoting behavior, all ads up to a very pleasant experience. Thanks.
@PhillipRPeck
@PhillipRPeck 2 жыл бұрын
I'd add film grain to the list of techniques as well
@HarvVideoAudioStuff
@HarvVideoAudioStuff 2 жыл бұрын
Ahh nice one, didn’t think of that! 🤦🏻‍♂️
@firebrand5037
@firebrand5037 2 жыл бұрын
Always been a fan of your channel . Thanks for all your hard work. I've learned a lot from you. I only wish there were more channels like yours
@rubendominguez9028
@rubendominguez9028 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your tips and work!
@Perrylayne105
@Perrylayne105 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Always appreciate your videos
@bovinicide
@bovinicide 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting video - makes you think. Thanks Harv!
@mats1975
@mats1975 2 жыл бұрын
Love the video and the science behind it, I also prefer to remove absolutely every sharpening in-camera, but for 99.9% client work (at least for me) this thing we do is extreme pixel peeping that no client will notice or care about, (again, just my own experience), great vid !
@wilsongalucho1142
@wilsongalucho1142 Жыл бұрын
best video on sharp detail image comparison with different methods!
@RobBrens
@RobBrens Жыл бұрын
Awesome topic and tips! Thanks!
@lucasliaskos
@lucasliaskos 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the video and techniques used but I'm with "team sharp". As long as the sharpness isn't the result of software - mobile phones for example - I'm all about the sharpest look I can get from the camera and lens combination. If specific scenes need to be blurred for any reason you can always do that in post but you cannot make a blurry video sharp. You have good skin Harv, no need to soften anything! 😄
@HarvVideoAudioStuff
@HarvVideoAudioStuff 2 жыл бұрын
(Blushes) many thanks 😄
@Megalobatrachus
@Megalobatrachus 2 жыл бұрын
I gree. Just because old cinematography could not be sharp (small film fornat size, grain etc) does not mean that unsharpness is undesirable. If people want their videos to look like old film then that's up to them but I want to see how things look in real life not as in an old cinema.
@_o__o_
@_o__o_ Жыл бұрын
nah fam
@RobotRebelCinema
@RobotRebelCinema Жыл бұрын
​@@Megalobatrachus There is nothing sharp about real life... That's why most filmmakers who want to shoot movies or short films ( including most Hollywood cinematographers) prefer the old school cinema look because it looks real. If you prefer super sharpness in your projects then that's your artistic vision, no criticism there... But my point is, don't refer to it as natural or real looking, because our eyes don't see UHD sharpness... And the reason many filmmakers (myself included) hate it is because it can look too digital and therefore unrealistic.
@micronesia3797
@micronesia3797 Ай бұрын
Solidly in team sharp too, I don't see the point in having gear that can achieve crystal clear sharpness to then tweak things to make them blurry. Doesn't make sense to me...
@DanielHodotcom
@DanielHodotcom 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your ideas! So helpful. I have an a7siii with a Sigma lens as well and it is a wonderful combination.
@David-nf6ye
@David-nf6ye 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing Job!!!! Lovely village Castle Combe!
@matschristensson
@matschristensson 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Harv. Very helpful info.I think overall the videos of standard coming out from cameras is to sharp.
@melankolikfilms
@melankolikfilms 2 жыл бұрын
Personally I prefer I slightly more vintage, filmic look, so I use Black Magic cameras which, from the start, have a more filmic feel; use vintage lenses; use a Black Pro Mist filter on my modern lenses; reduce any digital noise and replace with a more organic and pleasing film grain. The net result is a very natural image that leans more towards the feeling of 16mm and 35mm film. The secret is not to overdo each step, and let the cumulative steps gradually push you in the right direction.
@ginotarabotto
@ginotarabotto Жыл бұрын
Very awesome vid!
@GiancarloBiondi
@GiancarloBiondi 2 жыл бұрын
Let's make an exchange. Give me your a7sIII and I'll give you one of my camera which, without any of those expedients, gives you the results shown. Think, it shoots in HD and you don't even have to change resolution! Seriously, the sharpness it is always better to adjust it post; the pro mist filters help because in addition to attenuating the sensation of detail, they return a nice effect on the bright areas or lights in the scene
@HarvVideoAudioStuff
@HarvVideoAudioStuff 2 жыл бұрын
Ha ha, deal 😂
@GiancarloBiondi
@GiancarloBiondi 2 жыл бұрын
@@HarvVideoAudioStuff yeah! 😜
@DanCThorpe
@DanCThorpe 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting. I think the softer edges you get from stopping down to t1.8 or lower allows for better subject selection. With those landscape shots where every things equally sharp, it causes a tension. Where I don't really know where to concentrate my gaze. Which isn't pleasant.
@guybellinghamphotography1290
@guybellinghamphotography1290 2 жыл бұрын
Good one, great topic. Shooting in B/W gives you loads more latitude to play with vintage lenses, as chromatic aberration isn't an issue. If I remember correctly, David Lynch shot an entire movie with a stocking on the back of the lens. Also changing the spacing between lens elements can produce a lovely effect, some vintage large format lenses do this, but it's also incorporated into the Nikon DC lenses (Defocus Control).
@HarvVideoAudioStuff
@HarvVideoAudioStuff 2 жыл бұрын
Guy, you are my guru for getting the natural non-digital look!
@HarvVideoAudioStuff
@HarvVideoAudioStuff 2 жыл бұрын
Like the extreme example at the beginning?? 😂 as always be sure to check out my new Patreon page, I've given away hundreds of dollars worth of goodies already!
@wjnmovingimages4506
@wjnmovingimages4506 2 жыл бұрын
Hi thanks so much for the very relevant ideas. As a baseline would you use 2 of the techniques together - reducing detail setting and the 1/8 mist filter or just one of them?
@timpolster
@timpolster 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a great video. For me, the main thing to get rid of are the black lines that form around the edges of objects with a lighter background. I would like to retain the detail but eliminate the black edges. Have you tried to change any of the settings down in the detail menu? I will be checking these out. Crispening?
@CameraCombo
@CameraCombo Ай бұрын
You forgot to mention the largest benefit of shooting in HD, file sizes, potentially reducing them by 4 times or more.
@andersbrathen
@andersbrathen 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. But we're at a point where 1. This is the best gear you should buy, and 2. Here is how to make it look 'worse'. 😉👍🏼
@HarvVideoAudioStuff
@HarvVideoAudioStuff 2 жыл бұрын
Ah but is sharper better? I often find that the footage I see from arri cameras looks really natural/not overly sharp. I think the points in this vid should be carefully cherrypicked and definitely not used all together 😄👍🏻
@andersbrathen
@andersbrathen 2 жыл бұрын
@@HarvVideoAudioStuff I totally agree with you. But it is interesting to see that we might have peaked in the 'perfect digital look' we can get with today's cameras, and that we might want to tone this down a bit. As you demonstrate perfectly here. The same for smartphone cameras. Some produce extremely sharp images, with details 'everywhere'. But does it look natural? I think 'natural' looks will be the winner over time.
@denizahmet2299
@denizahmet2299 2 жыл бұрын
Also: Contrast. Screen Size. In-camera encoding format. Monitor/TV sharpness controls.
@DE-signYourLife
@DE-signYourLife Жыл бұрын
But what about NeatVideo? Can you make your Video looking more natural with it? Killing the Digital Sharpness look with it? More Cinematic look?
@findingjoe
@findingjoe 2 жыл бұрын
Trouble I have is when matching my phone footage with my A7iii footage the phone footage is way too sharp. And no way to dial down the settings.
@Jacob_._Roberts
@Jacob_._Roberts 2 жыл бұрын
Harv, these images look identical to me. Could this be KZfaq's compression or my monitor's resolution?
@HarvVideoAudioStuff
@HarvVideoAudioStuff 2 жыл бұрын
Hmm could be either, are you viewing in 4K?
@teodoroassunik1376
@teodoroassunik1376 Жыл бұрын
blurring in post saved my footafge, as it took a horrible moiré effect from an outfit, even using low aperture and minimal sharpness on set.
@WhySteve
@WhySteve 2 жыл бұрын
I've always hated that sharp look but I always end up with it, lol.
@areyoufilmingme4279
@areyoufilmingme4279 2 жыл бұрын
I like the sharp look.
@thatsamuellu
@thatsamuellu Жыл бұрын
Hi, mate. Really appreciate you bringing up the digital look on sony cameras, I thought no one really care about it, until I saw your video, I am a sony user, the digital look on sony is really annoying, I also tried everything I could to reduce the sharpness, but at the end, I found that it was not only because of the sharpness, the bmpcc 4k/6k their images are very sharp and detail as well, but the highlight rolloff and the color rolloff just way more natural than sony, every time I compair the image between sony and bmd, I felt like the sony image just like dslr/mirroless still camera's pictures look. I love the cleaness of a camera, like arri, super sharp and clean image, but it doesn't have the digital look, I am not a fan of vintage or old glass, just want a natural clean and sharp look, unfortunately, sony can't give the natural look.
@minutesback
@minutesback 2 жыл бұрын
Also some TV’s add a ridiculous amount of sharpening….
@HarvVideoAudioStuff
@HarvVideoAudioStuff 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for mentioning this, it’s another thing that prompted me to make this! 😅
@martinsherry
@martinsherry 2 жыл бұрын
10 pints of lager ?
@pa_maj.MARTINI-van-MAN
@pa_maj.MARTINI-van-MAN Жыл бұрын
Non prescription glasses?
@mvrz6
@mvrz6 2 жыл бұрын
RIP all those Sigma "sharpest lenses" buyers
@Anyrhing77
@Anyrhing77 27 күн бұрын
if you really want to reduce sharpness, just get a cinema lens or a vintage lens!
@nasibulalamhimel
@nasibulalamhimel Жыл бұрын
How do we capture video without blurry background like mobile video? Everything will be sharp? What camera and lans needed? Thanks.
@SmidgeFilms
@SmidgeFilms 11 ай бұрын
You just have to shoot at a very high f-stop and have lots of internal stabilization.
@hufman9807
@hufman9807 2 жыл бұрын
I find the opposite. My footage never looks sharp enough
@-_--le3zk
@-_--le3zk 2 жыл бұрын
All cameras operate differently
@Anyrhing77
@Anyrhing77 2 ай бұрын
there is another ways to reduce sharpness in editing that really works, adding blur? lol of course thats not gonna work
@akingbehintimilehin8104
@akingbehintimilehin8104 Жыл бұрын
I shot a video and forgot to reduce the sharpness now it’s done messed up my footages, it was so late before i discovered the sharpness was on 7 and i short on Canon MarkIV What can i do please #Urgent
@elmono3939
@elmono3939 Ай бұрын
Note to myself: Sharp image is no good anymore. Time to sell my super-expensive glass, and substitute it with lenses purchased with bag of chips in convenience store . Go figure...
@Ronbc000
@Ronbc000 2 жыл бұрын
Try reducing sharpness in apple iphone 13 max video, just for fun! 😂
@JeffBourke
@JeffBourke Жыл бұрын
It’s so confusing. Have the manufacturer confirmed that “zero” is including digital sharpening? Are you absolutely sure that (-7) is NOT in camera softening?
@HarvVideoAudioStuff
@HarvVideoAudioStuff Жыл бұрын
Assuming this isn’t a joke, yes we are 100% on this. We know this because comparing the raw output direct from the sensor, footage looks the same in terms of detail (albeit not noise!)
@JeffBourke
@JeffBourke Жыл бұрын
@@HarvVideoAudioStuff yes I am not joking sorry. It just seems counter intuitive that the zero point has sharpening included. Thanks for confirming.
@dutu000
@dutu000 Жыл бұрын
i don't understand.. sharper looks better to me... I do a lot of film photography, and the pictures come out sharp. The digital look I think it's more contrast and color related and yes, some cameras add artificial sharpening, but true sharpness I think it's good, especially if it comes from the lens. I use a sigma 16mm on my Sony and I like it BECAUSE it's sharp. Film has "softer" colors, not sharpness. At least in my opinion.. Also, in your video, the 0.48 shot looks nice and 4k (a little artificially sharpened) but the 0:50 shot looks blurry and 1080p.. (at least on my 1440p monitor). Maybe on a 1080p monitor it looks good.
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