Has development slowed down, or are things just getting started?

When I was a child, I could only dream about these consoles. Right now, I can enjoy all of them on my phone. The only thing I need is time. So sad... man🥺

3:20 was funny. Also, Play! The PS2 emulator just got Vulkan support in Android so hopefully things look better for PS2 emulation.

honestly play! is the only emulator i care about for android. that along side dolphin, though dolphin is still very active. psp and below im fine with if they never get any upgrades for the rest of my life.

We need more and better PS2 emulators. At least a port of PCSX2 with Vulkan Support on a high end Snapdragon chip cause man Daemon PS2 is awful.

Well, 10 months later.. It looks like things are still improving! Aether SX2 is amazing, Citra MMJ is getting better, and Skyline is starting to get more impressive. I still think we are years off from PS3, Xbox, etc. properly running on android.

I don't think so. With more people becoming aware of the potential that emulation provides, homebrew on systems no longer being made, utilizing tools on modern hardware to produce better games than were originally released, we may be looking at a whole other market being born of these systems ashes, and android emulation is the means by which many of these games will be played.

In my opinion, I believe we may peak once emulators are capable of running all or most switch games at least 30 fps.

Far from peaked, we just gotta get stuff going on the software front for awhile considering the hardware wants to burst out of its shell into higher performing stuff. I wouldn't mind tossing some money to devs in the future. I'm just trying to save up for a proper Android solution. I'd also like a Vita emulator for Android.

Seems a bit silly to judge an emulator by how well it does 5x native resolution of the original handheld/console...

You always seem incredibly down on Android emulation but seem surprisingly upbeat when it comes to the Chinese dedicated handhelds such as the RG351MP. Your whole manner of speech just seems more alive when dealing with the latter.

I remember back in the day when NES was the only emulator and it blew your mind.

Mobile computing will sooner get to a point to where you could probably just run a Windows-based tier 4 emulator over x64 emulation before we see any drastic improvements in native Android ports for that area.

this was done so well with the adding of the tiers. Thanks for this

It is kind of a hard time in terms of technical development. On one side we have a kind of technical stagnation due largely to a manufacturing and supply deadlock which is stopping more powerful hardware coming to market (as an example AMD decided not to release their Zen3+ CPU range as they are already struggling to supply their customers). On the other side of things times are tough for many people financially right now due to economic pressures which leads people to spend more of their energy trying to scrape up extra money in order to support themselves rather than spending time and energy on hobbyist activities leading to the noted software stagnation. This should all improve with time, how much time is hard to say though - I think we are still at least a couple of years away from recovery to pre-covid levels in terms of supply and I would expect the economy to recover after that.

I've been enjoying this scene for years but man when you compile it all in one place someone new to emulation would get their mind blown into orbit by how much their phone/tablet can do!

I truly believe a processor as powerful as the Snapdragon 888 could handle even some ps3 and xbox 360 games. But only with very well optimized software. I have a feeling that, while some emulators are great, in many cases you just have the processor brute-forcing it's way to excellent performance, and that better software could see less powerful chips beat the performance of the current best chips.

I honestly thing interest or demand is the big issue here. Most people dont expect thier phone to play ps3 or even ps2 games, so past dreamcast/psp/n64 you lose a lot of interest. Because of this, developers start to lose interest as well.

I like the idea of adding different tiers

Honestly the main Emu I use on Android is Drastic but it feels so outdated, theres literally no reason they havent added in higher res scale and whatnot yet

we just need better ps2 emulation that isnt spyware, and slightly better switch emulation that doesnt need a specific controller to use. mainly play! ps2 emulator needs to improve to close to damon and skyline emulator needs to come close to egg ns

I'm curious to see how the AMD GPU performs on the Galaxy S22 series.

When 3ds and PS2 emulation runs perfectly then I'll say Android emulation has peaked

Great video. For PSP I would suggest testing the Midnight Club games, as they are quite demanding and people love them

Just getting started imo, we've seen this already in a slew of small laptops. My guess is that in a phone generation or 2 we are going to be playing tier 5 pretty easy.

I think it depends on the dev's. If the devs optimize the software or take greater advantage of things like Vulcan instead of Open GL, optimizations for newer hardware, software fixes for things like stutter, I think emulation is far from it's peak. With that being said I am not a developer soooo I am just sitting on the side lines waiting.

The only reason I use android for emulation is the experience of mobile multiplayer. I have multiple Linux devices including the rg351v and for just simply gaming retro games that's enough for me, but on my phone even though I can play up to 3ds upscaled and ps2 I don't really care much for it, since I'd rather play on my living room TV for those games. Now playing the legend of zelda four swords is just something amazing on my phone while my friends or family play using the android devices I own, and that to me beats higher performance on expensive devices or phones. I bought the retroid pocket 2 because of your review and gave it to my kid after I installed lineage OS and we've had a blast with pokemon and megaman battle network, and now we're doing arcade games and latency has been better on that than on the rg351 devices, we also did the sm64 multiplayer rom hack and played together and that was more enjoyable than my high end emulation line-up. My opinion is that android emulation would be more appealing if we get more work in the form easier to use UIs, devices that can play wirelessly with each other with less hiccups, and have devices made that can meet this at a max $150 dollar price at least for those in the US whatever amount it would match respectively in other currencies. I actually bought a Z pocket game from someone from eBay and aside from not having a very appealing UI like 351elec or ark OS in the rg351 devices it met everything else I wanted and playing wirelessly is great. Maybe I'm alone in this but growing up when the GB launched involved so much playing with others and using link cables, N64 multiplayer Goldeneye or Star Fox 64, and Mario Kart DS in middle school, is a core point to me when it comes to these devices yet we rarely get that. Like I don't understand why drastic still has no multiplayer and probably never will. That would be a game changer. Like sure dolphin on your phone is great, but have you ever battled with other people irl the pin slamming game in The World Ends With You?

It has to be noted that citra stagnation is due to the devs being the ones developing yuzu. So that's where sll the effort goes to

A great video on emulation on Android. This is great to share with those new to emulation.

It seems crazy how they were able to emulate a current gen major game console on phones! I remember trying to run pcsx2 on a pentium 4 pc with a geforce 9800gt back in 2009 with absolute zero success.

After we get the App from PlayStore, how do I get the Games for it & set it up❓ need step by step instructions to setup on Android phone Please

Taki, how did you configure dolphin for xenoblade, coz my red magic 6 pro still having a hard.time on that game, im using the dolphin emu from playstore

I'm still baffled about the Switch on Android situation. Brutally bizarre and sad.

Just a small question if anyone can ask but how do the 3ds Pokémon games run? I don’t see too much film on it so I’m not sure if it is too demanding or if it’s smooth.

I'm still amazed this is possible now on what is essentially a product of incremental evolution of mobile phones.

I really need to ask, why did you use tghe Citra MMJ emulator, I thought the "official" version from the Citra team is better?

About your comment on FPS on Goldeneye, im pretty sure that FPS counter only means the game is running at full speed, not that its running at 60fps.

Hello taki! What clip did you use for your sn30 pro+ to clip to you phone?

Great video dude!

Man, that BSNES running in widescreen looks epic. Any idea if that will run so smoothly on Odin Pro?

This video is the perfect example of why the steam deck is gonna be so goddamn awesome.

Things are just getting started, emulation on mobile can be called that way cause we have android, IOS is not emulation friendly and it will never be. Emulation on mobile will always be a thing and as long as Android exist it will improve.

7:55 Some love for Timestalkers. Wow

How did you get BSNES on Android and the how to run super Mario wide screen hacked?

Thanks for the emulation review

Hearing Taki just say "shit" out of nowhere was jarring and funny, but accurate.

I’m glad you addressed cycle accurate SNES. That and cycle accurate GBA are what’s most important to me heh

Hell, I hope not. We still have to work on input latency. RetroArch's run ahead feature helps a lot in this regard, but I'd like to see standalone emulators do something similar.

There is never a peak , it's always improving ;)

Whats the name of the controller and where did you bought it?

At the start of the video, are you using the Red Magic 6s Pro with the Saitake 7007F? How is that possible, when the phone's size is 6.8 inches, and the maximum size the controller can take is 6.3 inches? Or is some info wrong?

Software withstanding I wonder how well these games would run on the iPhone 13 pro max (hypothetically speaking of course) considering how powerful the A15 bionic is. Considering the power of the cpu and gpu I’m sure it could easily emulate ps3 and 360 games (thermal throttling withstanding).

is the Qualcomm SM4350 Snapdragon 480 5G any good for emulation?

1 year later and PS2 works perfectly. I have a Oneplus 7t and a galaxy tab s6 lite. Both work well with the aethersx2 turnip. I have games ranging from: God of War, Jak 2 and 3, Star Was Battlefront, NHL Hitz and more. All work perfectly albeit some need adjustments to the there config

Can someone please direct me to the BSNES emulator for Android? Can't find it anywhere.

what game is that in 1:26 , wondering if that's the game I was searching for years🤯

It hit its peak with the Samsung galaxy s9 in 2016 , snapdragon on that made it possible for all top tier emulation at this point it’s perfection

I would say it pretty much peaked with 855/855+. I run those games on 855+ with similar frame rates as shown in this video with similar amount of lag for the demanding games shown.

The Steam Deck might take over the handheld market. The value of it is just too compelling to pass up.

Give it 5 years and there will probably be a fully running Wii U emulator. Is a good time to emulate but PS2 is too new. Maybe in two years it'll be worth it

Hopefully snapdragon can really do something with the nuvia cores in development. Or Samsung can really do something with AMD GPUs. Either way, hardware looks promising. Idk about software

I love how NES and Famicom clones were everywhere back then.

Nice Vid!

People are overly optimistic. We'll likely see some improvement, but never a jump like what we have seen lately. When the arm architecture will be more common in computers then developers will be more interested.

Now this is a certified hood classic

No only if it'll be able to emulate Xbox original & PS3 games

That's cool and all... But does it run the original Doom tho?

Hi. Can you advise best 4" retro console?

Can you send me a link on how to get the switch emulator please

I would say, someone may try to port RPCS3 to Android once the emulator on PC hits near-full compatibility. Which TBH is better. Although I don't know why anyone hasn't tried porting over Xenia, if Switch games can be emulated, there is no reason the 360 should be a problem, you can make an argument for the PS3 with CELL, but the 360 is notably weaker than the Switch. Hardware-wise, it should be able to run, it just needs the software (Like the Switch as we literally can tell how well the Switch is power-wise versus modern SoCs because the Switch uses a normal TX1)

Yes for the most part for older consoles that is but for newer stuff I think it's still working besides the PS2

What's that green plug on the android phone? Is that for a controller?

I feel like I am being briefed in a military logistics mission. Awesome, you are always concise and the message gets across so easily.

Hi i just wanted to ask u what tier should i use for gaming by the way my processor is mediatek Helio G80

Arm cortex a9 runs everything up to the dreamcast perfectly. Anything above a dual core a9 at 1ghz+ is great for emulating every console released pre 1999

Where can I get the bsnes emulator?

So is this due to Emulators need more tweaking, or its the actual hardware that is the issue? Because it amazes me that with all the technology and emulators out cannot run old school games.

What emu switch for android...?

i dont think technology will ever "peak" the progress will maybe slow down but there will pretty much always be progress.when hardware reaches its limits(in the very very far future) it will be softwares turn. just look at dlss and fsr. for phone emulation the emulators will just need to be optimised. but thats just my opinion. has progress slowed down? im not sure but amds gpu will answer this i think. the companies making these chips just have no incentive to make faster chips as they are plenty for the average user. amd on the other hand, being a big company for gamers, can attract more people and in turn has a monetary incentive

Are the videos of TechUtopia channel about switch emulation true, or are garbage??, he showcase to much quality for what I believe its possible, for example Metroid Dread up to 60fps with SD 880

Does the switch emu require gamesir x2 gamepad

Im ok with playing emu in 2X or even 3X HD res is already way better than the intended native game res😃 Good thing most tablet with mali g52 and above is capable enough

This is just starting since android is getting very famous and powerful like windows and in my opinion the next emulator we are soon gonna get is the cemu emulator on android mainly because is the next close easy to emulate and we are gonna stop very hard there until we get a amd gpu like power in android devices…

Will you be covering emulation on the surface duo 2?

What game is at 1:11

With the current state it looks a little bleak, but with Apple and it’s M1 chip, and AMD, Google, Samsung, microsoft, and nvidia all looking to making An ARM chip (I know Microsoft and Samsung already do), the future of ARM support looks pretty good to me!

The snapdragon 888 is a 1700 GFLOP chip trying to emulate a 500 GFLOP Nintendo Switch. The rule of thumb for emulators used to be "you need 10x the raw power of the hardware you are trying to emulate". The fact that they got BotW running properly (albeit at very low graphical fidelity) is a massive accomplishment. I think you are expecting way too much out of the snapdragon chip. The switch emulator devs seem to be doing great work imo.

I got the exact same gamepad. The gamepad is good I've been using it for almost 2 yrs now. But i having lot of drift on the L/R analog. I try to clean it but still no luck. You can not find any analog that would fit this controller. I have try Nintendo switch analog but they are actually different from the inside.

idk when ill get a new phone cause mine works fine. but i have a note 8 and it can run up to gamecube and 3ds, both are not great but playable for the most part. timesplitters 2 struggles a lot, idk if id call it playable, only in non demanding sections it runs at full speed

I would love to see these wide screen hacks for ALL retro gaming systems across all OS. =D

What emulator on the last?

Yeah, that Super Mario World hack looked great in 1080

Bsnes use mostly cpu. I've tried bsnes on rpi4 without issue with a bit of overvlock.

As an absolute layman emulation is so frustrating!! I've watched ton of these videos and all the jargon short hand and code names for processors,software and what not is like listening to someone speak another language.

Peak emulation is my Z Fold 3 with Gamesir Bluetooth. Runs everything at 60fps. PS2 PSP not to mention that the aspect ratio unfolded is 4:3 so all retro games look great without weird stretching.

I always prefer portable gaming over PC or home consoles, I have a jailbroken Vita and NEW 3DS XL and Switch, I enjoy them all as a dedicated gaming systems, I am an android user and discovered a couple of months ago about the Switch emulator and I said to myself wow phones really getting powerful, So for the first time I tried all kinds of emulators all the way from NES to Switch, My thoughts are that emulation on a phone will never give you the same experience as the original hardware or an official port no matter how high you upscale the resolution, And the lack of physical buttons is annoying even if you buy a gamepad which elimanate the point of portablity, In conclusion I highly recommend you to buy a 3DS or Vita Switch. vita has alot of jrpgs and has some great PS2, PS3 ports and it can emulate up to N64+native PS1,PSP 3DS has a huge library and alot of remakes and remasters and have almost every pokemon game exist also can emulate up to N64+native GB, GBC, GBA, DS. Switch has the best library of games out of these 3 and it can emulate everything except:Vita, PS3,PS4, XBOX, XBOX360, XBOX1, Wii U.

i think most of tier 4 and tier 5 need optimization first over compability on android My phone ( redmi note 3 snapdragon 650 custom firmware ) still can run some Gamecube and 3DS game

Now new PS2 emulator has came named as aethersx2 it work smoothly with some settings on sd 665+ it is 40 fps on GTA SA god of war 2 god hand resident evil 4 etc

I felt like Madden 04 or 05 on the gamecubes is a very high demand games. My Samsung s21 can never play that games at full speed always lagging.

Wonder how Steam Deck might affect future emulation. Such as if everyone just moves here instead