The cheating epidemic is so far that at this point i say fck it make every single competitive game shutdown windows and launch a completely different OS meant for ONLY that game which wouldn't even allow other processes to run.

Its everywhere

the only hope i have left is AI being used to build and combat cheaters. and i really want games to network together to IP BAN these cheaters from all games at the same time. black list the player completely or force them to spend and waste more money

then you have "influencers" claiming cheating doesnt exist on console and if you rebuke it, blind fans coming to say "mnk" duh it's not just mnk. Console players have access to the same full blown cheats as pc, it's unavoidable and inescapable. Something needs to be done from the hardware level to curb and ultimately destroy cheating in online gaming.

Same

there aren't more videos like this because even your favorite streamer or youtuber who is popular is probably using some form of cheats to stay relevant with their beloved videogames.

@@AndreSilva-vs8xp I rather would like to believe that those streamers cant afort to talk about this because if they do people will not play or like the game they are streaming

Nailed those are the exact reasons no one makes these type of videos because they themselves would be guilty and lose all credibility...everyone want a shortcut and get mad when they exposed or called out

You dont SAY?

Because the people normally cheat are KZfaqrs

I cheated 20 years ago back in halo 2. Had a friend force my really shifty internet to be host. I definitely won a couple games because of it. 6 years ago I stream sniped a streamer. These memories haunt me. I'll never understand how someone can cheat in a game and not look back at it constantly with disgust. I look back at those memories like the time I was 5 and killed a lizard. People who can do shit like that and not have it bother them shouldn't be forgiven when they get caught. It should be illegal to play games from anywhere from a short time period to a permanent ban. Cheaters are major problem and giving someone an inch who's cheated is a mistake

Speedhackers as well

Quite a variety of hacks tbh

you know the thing is, I hate the cheats that are hard to pin down. Top players using radar, slight things like that or anything esp or any advantages it sucks man ._. makes you question everything lol

@@nanobruv facts even spoonkid uses esp

I really don't want to end up the same :(

Same here, either singleplayer or PvE co-op games like Deep Rock Galactic.

You do what you gotta do. In a way... it's kinda looking out for one's gamers mental-health of sorts... which is a good tactics of sort. But peeps who love competition + interaction aka multiplayer setting... well they're kinda screwed. 😅😔

Ayy single player is where we all started, got my wii out and just gamin on that while in discord lol

I used to be a multiplayer fiend myself, but that was back in the days of dedicated servers. Now I am much the same. Dark and Darker is probably the first game in a while that I've bothered to play solo online, but of course, I always prefer to play in a group when I can. It was painful solo at first but I quickly got fairly decent at it.

We have to fight! Stay strong. Push Devs and publishers

@@TheSpudHunterYeah play fighting games

​@@MysticMayne Until a nude mod makes Capcom want to nuke modding as cheating. Even/especially the innocent cosmetic ones.

I see that a lot, like on Steam discussions, it looks like a cheater strategy to normalize the issue and make it look like cheating is not so predominant while it is in fact rampant and many are even more blatantly cheating than ever before. I understand that some people are too fast to call other cheaters, I also got myself called a cheater a lot despite the fact I never did and never will, I like to play and to be proud when I do something well and I hate cheating when I encounter it (don't do to other what you wouldn't like for yourself). But I believe this is the cause of the rampant cheating issue, people get more and more suspicious and paranoid. 10 Years ago I was like "this guy doesn't feel right but I can't tell 100% he is cheating on spot/I need to check replay" 1 game out of 10 or 20, now it's 1 game out of 3 with just rage cheater, spinbotter, or even once a guy thought I was cheating, they all activated in the ennemy team living no doubt they where, and guess what, watching the demo, the guy that called me out was already cheating from the start with a wallhack and I was still beter than him before he tuned up (probably the reason he though I was cheating), but yeah once they went hardcore I was no match for them cause I don't cheat, I was just beter... I also met a nice guy from my country, playing rather well, we had fun in vocal and we teamed up for the next game, suddenly he was becoming a god while I was fucked over by the ennemy team and it ended up being that they where cheating and he was too (and other random player from the team)... Pretty sad to witness, sad I though I met a nice buddy to play with, just to find out he was a cheater, I fucking hate the state of multiplayer today, it is sad to witness.

Pretty sure you need a Spirograph to find it.

Don't give up, young padavan. You'll make it... one day...

I believe it is on the continent of Asia. It may share borders with countries like Russia, India, North Korea, Vietnam and Myanmar.

@@deaddog8507 Forgot about Peru right there

@@zardify_ Peru ain't anywhere near China

So, China. What about false positives? Back when I was still playing shooters I was accused of cheating on a daily basis and reports came in nearly every game. Luckily I only got banned once and playing in competitive eSports gave me opportunities to prove I'm in fact not hacking, but what about other players? No opportunity to make a second account? That would also enforce age restrictions. I don't really care about it but there'll be a lot of backlash because honestly speaking, little to no one cares about an R18 rating anymore.

​@@samueldaniels8415they could just block all the VPN ip addresses like some websites do, but tbh rep. Of covid has a huge market... companies like tencent require a share of the company to host stuff in covid.

@@samueldaniels8415 get a functioning cs go overwatch system going for every game it seems to work fine just use it until the AI anti cheat gets perfected so we could create a utopia for pvp online gaming

Even if you convince people to trush something so retarded and dangerous, will just slow down the creation of cheats the first year, but actually will make the cheats stronger and almost impossible to detect, because first of all, even the IDs system from every goverment its difernte and have some mistakeson their data, and probably people will sell his IDs for testing with the enough money, nothing can permanently stop cheaters, nothing

@@samueldaniels8415found the cheater

Yes man. Right in my nostalgia. Vote kick spam was annoying when people grieved it but pros and cons 🙏🙏🙏

Different times. Easier to tell if people were cheating as well Besides give a ban button to the average joe and what is gonna happen? Any salty retard is just gonna spam that button…

One single account per player, per phone number etc. make it painful to lose your account. Enforce it. Problem solved. Actual consequences = less bullshit.

@@true_plays_games Companies do be loosing a shit ton of money if each person could only have 1 account. Ark for example is a game where it's very common to have multiple accounts to do stuff like watch different servers, raise dinos etc.

@@isaac9974 who cares about ark

There is an AI-AC that is 99.9% accurate and works flawlessly...but none of the devs are implementing it...hmmmm... 💰💰💰💰

​@@nottomclancy2439Yeah those numbers are either bullshit, the AC is kernel level and a lot of people deem that too invasive, especially if it's proprietary, or the reported 99% only cover cheaters while also having a crap ton false positives.

We are. It is a multi million business Besides cheaters spend a lot of money on games compared to the hardcore gamer, so why bother?

The good times of BF

I play BF4 all the time on admin owned servers. Lots of players still

so see you in 30 mins 😁

I was wondering why you quit Cycle, since you seemed passionate about that game, but I guess this video explains it...

There definitely is some room for deeper philosophical discussions on this.

Young people sit in from of screens and barely glance around. No matter how low your screen time is....modern culture is driven by terminally online people. If you cheat using ChatGPT, you are lying to yourself. That "A" belongs to ChatGPT. If kids feel compelled to cheat using ChatGPT, then the system is retarded. There was chatgpt's back then. They were straight A students. Wheb a kid suspiciously got A, teachers would call them out to defend their work.

Rust is a vestige of the past, if I remember right it came out roughly around 2012 and Garry from Facepunch is an old school Half Life guy. It's the only game I can think of with an active player base that still operates like this. (A good thing).

@@TheSpudHunter That is true. Yes. And it's actively and heavily being developed still. (damn people need to stop telling me Rust is 10+ years old cause I'm starting so feel so old... lol) This truly seems like such an easy issue... Not sure why we are where we are. It seems all the changes that led here were ones people would not have liked either way. They have no positive sides.

People already cheat in dark and darker? Wtf???

@@kendojunson7971 I've only seen one guy rapid firing with a bow and someone holding a bugged torch that gave you insane movement speed (both in clips from streamers). Don't think there are a big number of cheaters yet but yeah.

@@hemligman8221 Bruh they curbed the cheating issue a long time ago with trusted queues. This video is so dumb because Spud quit the game awhile ago and has no idea what the current state of the game is.

@@WeebsArePathetic Had no similar experience with it but saw a stream from the last play test where somebody was flicking torches and interacted with portals without ever getting out of invisibility. In the video they were looking directly at the spots while it happened. If it remains it's like the ultimate cheat for this game.

@@Andragil717 I was referring to the cycle in my comment, not dark and darker.

🥃

and cheating doesn't mean in a professional or even outcome-positive sense. A 12 year old who youtubes how to download walls in team fortress 2 and is still ass at the game IS still cheating.

I mean, many of the content creators cheat just to be competitive in the game, not unheard of to have eps on another screen or even on another machine reading memory off the main one.

check out valorant, barely no cheaters.

@@Rose333X yeah they have insane anti cheat but they do have access to your root directory. Thats not my reason, its the game, not my type of game. I dont like games like Valorant/Csgo. Squad is the only fps shooter i really love. But thanks anyway dude

I used to do a lot of Titanfall 2 multiplayer aswell, but that died pretty quick aswell but had its own fair share of cheaters from time to time.

Valorant has the right idea. Its the only way to keep multiplayer games clean. Invasive anticheat is a must imo

Find a group in arma 3 to play with, it's all pve typically and it's better gameplay than the mindless frag comps people make.

...or just introduce region locks to reduce total pool of cheaters. Also, dilute cheat markets with all kinds of viruses and bad actors. Cheats that will dox the user, report their hardware and get them banned on multiple online accounts. Pay hackers to attack to platforms that sell cheats.

2. *$30 R6: Siege has the problem of Ubi making it go on sale so often you get huge waves of cheaters paying for the game at like $10 to be able to cheat for like 2 weeks. More if they buy multiple copies on separate accounts. Super common practice. 3. paying for unbanning would mean the companies would want more cheaters 4. if hitboxes were serverside as well, walls and aimbots would be much much harder to pull off. 5. Thats a system called Overwatch, and it was used at some point. Only very obvious cheaters got caught by it. Think spinbotters. 6. Valve has mentioned something about using AI to catch cheaters, but idk if it's gonna go anywhere.

These are all terrible ideas.

“Pay for unban” ? Fucking useless ass idea.

Not true before they allowed PC players in out lobbie the game where fun you didn't have people useing aimbot and wall hacks but there allowing pc players in out games so this is the end of pvp online fps shooters

Free to play is the problem. No punishment just buy a new account… and cheats are on console too nowadays, it has become such a business

The worst thing a developer can do to stop cheaters its actually stopping them, i mean, in a fight theres two things that can make you actually lose, the Physical and Mental battles... If you somehow detect a cheater, you shouldnt make him know he got caught, instead of instantly banning him, you can just play with Server/Client things, for example: make them only get matched with other hackers and tag him as a Cheater and make Wave Bans every random week, and for confusing more the scripters, if they dont play like a casual player and just use random accounts for testing your anti cheat, dont ban them and now they fall in the Domain Expansion: Imaginary Shadow Ban

Multiplayer has been rough

They literally have that LOL. This video is misinformation. Hackers aren't an issue anymore.

@@WeebsArePathetic I have never once logged into dark and darker and got a request to view a vac? So please explain what you mean by, they already have that?

@@Legotimebomb Sorry we're thinking of different games lmao. In terms of dark and darker, I agree. I think trusted queues are one of the best ways to curb hacking. It really worked for the cycle.

@@WeebsArePathetic Ah okay, all good lol. I never really gave the cycle a full chance. It sadly just wasn't hittin for me.

It’s a good system but they implemented it way too late. It came in effect after the game had already died and the players left.

It's great but probably too late.

@@TheSpudHunter Then why make this video? Why not say the Yager took strides in preventing cheating, the game still has a strong foundation, and use your platform to bring players back? I don't understand. Did something happen behind the scenes that made you dislike Yager? I'm not even trying to call you out or anything, I'm 100% just confused.

im 20 right now and grew up playing every cs , i hate feeling like playing games is a waste of time when i know im better than them

Also on valorant I don't really think the anti cheat works that good, having no replay system hides the brunt of the problem

May have done a cheeky little VST cover

Play a good game that has community ran servers such as arma... most servers are pve anyway

Yeah but cycle implemented this system after their game is already dead. It’s useful for the handful of players that still play but it’s too little too late for the active community that left the game and most likely will not be returning.

They did some really good things post the apocalypse but it feels like the damage is done. Plus less interest in the game equals less cheaters. No one can sell items for RMT with a low player population. Business too slow

Or they just add trusted queues and 95% of the hackers are out of your games. Oh wait, they did, and this issue was fixed a long time ago. This vid is just clickbait and he has no idea what the current state of the game is as he doesn't play anymore.

@@WeebsArePathetic ur talking about cycle and it's so dead bc most of the player base was cheating and there is not a way to go from nothing and kill geared players like if u head eyes someone in tarky. good weps have to fast ttk and bad weps do nothing ur just outmatched regardless of ur play. so the game itself is lacking the fundamental things that would make the pvp fun and long-lasting competitive nature i personally re tried the game and got multiple matches were i could not pvp the only ppl there ran away and extracted was so much fun i immediately hit the uninstall.

@@brennanorr2 Sucks for you then cause even now the game is still great and the season 3 play test is a banger. Also you complain about ttk meanwhile you can get headshot in tarkov with zero counterplay. Anyways they continue to make updates and improve so idk when the last time you played it was, but season 3 looks like it actually might pull through. Oh and I've killed plenty of geared players with low end gear so skill issue for sure. You can kill the highest level armor with 1 clip of the white smg if you land all your shots. If you're in low MMR which you are, a geared player is just free loot.

@@WeebsArePathetic i started saying what is wrong with cycle in my first post but im sorry as i started to continue and the text was getting so long it stated turning into an essay and im not doing that

@@brennanorr2 I do that constantly tbh lol. And then I end up editing it a thousand times

Was blown away coming from tarkov when I got my gear back on the cycle. What a great feature.

@Kendo Junson yea seems weird that spud mentions none of this in the video and just continues to represent the cycle as a cheaterfest when it hasnt been anymore since the start of s2.

I don't think he is. The cycle did die due to cheaters, they did find a decent fix but it was already too late. And ye, S1 was a genuine cheat fest. There's like 1k players or less atm.

@mika hoolwerff it's held at 1500 or more since early December and that's just active players at any one time. Lack of MMR in what's supposed to be a more casual version of tarkov hurt it just as much as cheaters and now both are in much better shape and according to the livestream this week, their player retention numbers have been getting much better with even more recent changes to the way MMR is calculated

@@ArchaicTTV 1500 concurrent players is awful.

It's rough out there since 2020 never seen it this bad before

No they don't. Just go look at Faceit subreddit for CS:GO. Anyone can download demos and yet... the platform has been full of cheaters for over 5 years (I used to be top 500 EU in 2018 with 3500 elo peak) and yet everyone complains about smurfs. Just take one random thread about smurfs ruining the game, look at the demo and the player(s) in question and you'll quickly realize how easy it is to see that people are cheating and yet everyone pretends cheating isn't a problem.

Survive

@@TheSpudHunter I survive through the thought of D&D coming!

try to play tarkov on EU servers (lol whatever what servers u pick , they will have cheaters or no players at all)

AMEN BROTHER, you've always been sharp with this stuff during my stream rants. Honestly hope we see a swing back to how things were in some form with MP gaming.