Has music replaced the Holy Spirit - Zac Poonen

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Knowledge of the Holy

Knowledge of the Holy

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Money, Music and Psychology - Zac Poonen
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@iamnotfooled
@iamnotfooled 21 күн бұрын
This man is so right. I feel some of these singers are not worshipping God but are merely singing like performers
@josephkennedyemmanuel9658
@josephkennedyemmanuel9658 20 күн бұрын
Don't go by your feelings. Present the facts? Are super performers unworthy of singing worship songs. Matt: 5:48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect. Does church worship need shoddy, poor, imperfect worship. Or do we present our best? I think this man has only retired church members in the congregation...
@Jisushantidiseofficial1094
@Jisushantidiseofficial1094 24 күн бұрын
I'm a singer from Nagaland, India. Our church don't pay the church workers. We are independent church like you mentioned. Christian church Acts 11:26. ❤
@brianbisnath2254
@brianbisnath2254 24 күн бұрын
Wow this man is so right!!! His addressing such important topics!!! Huge respect for him!!
@rajanmoses
@rajanmoses 23 күн бұрын
He just spoke what i have been feeling in my church. Wow.
@abigailpaul4132
@abigailpaul4132 24 күн бұрын
Praise the lord.
@chitrasundar3010
@chitrasundar3010 16 күн бұрын
Thank you brother for this powerful message
@jimmyniland9721
@jimmyniland9721 15 күн бұрын
AMEN.
@menonjoefalcao
@menonjoefalcao Ай бұрын
May the holy spirit convict them in their spirit
@T.p15
@T.p15 26 күн бұрын
For me ,Worship songs lead me to God.. I get goosebumps whenever I hear worship songs that's the work of the holy spirit
@dibaneshsaha4284
@dibaneshsaha4284 26 күн бұрын
Goosebumps are feelings - holy spirit is the one who tells you the truth in your dark moments- not based on feelings or emotions but hardcore truth of God
@T.p15
@T.p15 26 күн бұрын
@@dibaneshsaha4284 I have experienced holy spirit in my life.. it's not at all feelings.. I cry and feel God's presence..
@dibaneshsaha4284
@dibaneshsaha4284 26 күн бұрын
@@T.p15 holy spirit is not an experience and feel - it is the spirit of god that comes in you and tells the things of truth of God in your daily walk in life so that you can discern between actual and factual according to the word of God and compels you to go against your own wisdom of fleshy attributes and fulfill the commandments of God - that is Why Jesus said I have not come to destroy the law but to Fullfill - read Corinthians Ephesians Roman from the Bible
@rebat7564
@rebat7564 24 күн бұрын
@@T.p15: At that moment, what is your emotions? what made you cry?
@T.p15
@T.p15 23 күн бұрын
@@rebat7564 in worship songs the lyrics are God's word. So when the word of God touches you we cannot control and we cry out not because of emotions but out of joy and peace feelings we get through the songs.. I wonder if you you have experienced the power of the holy Ghost or not otherwise you will not judge by what I am saying.
@ok__6441
@ok__6441 28 күн бұрын
Of course it all depends what kind of music, if music is mostly loud instrument’s, than it will mainly stir our emotions. But if songs are more focused on word’s and light instruments, than it might touch our hearts.
@edwinpaul79
@edwinpaul79 Ай бұрын
That’s true, I love the way he exposed the deception’s that ruling the church and so called spirit filled Christian 😢
@ahigen
@ahigen 28 күн бұрын
Praise God for the eye opening message to the young generation worship leaders.
@jameshenriques301
@jameshenriques301 24 күн бұрын
.. For the tables are full of vomit and filthiess, so that there is no place clean. "Whom shall we teach knowledge? and whom shall we make to understand doctrine? Isaiah 28:8&9. God bless you brother and keep preaching the true word which may sound foreign to etching ears. For God has reserved for himself a few who have not bowed down to baal.
@rooparajan13
@rooparajan13 Ай бұрын
Amen 🙏🏻 what an eye opener message by Bro Zac 😊
@evanciusmawthoh3150
@evanciusmawthoh3150 27 күн бұрын
Holy Spirit please guide me and abide in me
@philanka
@philanka 28 күн бұрын
I once experienced what they call being "slain by the power of the holy spirit." When the so-called man of god was holding me, I felt a strong force pushing me down. I now realize I was deceived. Thank you, Jesus, through brother Zac Poonen for opening my eyes.
@IamGodSon
@IamGodSon 28 күн бұрын
A force can still push you down and change your life. There's a true spiritual experience of slaying in the spirit.
@philanka
@philanka 27 күн бұрын
​@IamGodSon Yes, and only the Holy Spirit truly changes everything about the way we live. I agree with what Brother Zac Poonen said at 5:11 in the video about being slain in the Holy Spirit in Romans 8:13 - by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of your body. This is not the same as the spirit that causes people to topple backwards, as mentioned at 4:38 in the video.
@stephenjeyapaul2664
@stephenjeyapaul2664 21 күн бұрын
They’re selling mystical stuff as Christian experience. Mysticism is eroding the spirit of Christian theology. Thanks to pastors like Brother Zac Poonen we are able to discern between true worship and false worship.
@thankfulvoice6474
@thankfulvoice6474 Ай бұрын
All Glory to YESHUVA Our Saviour LORD JESUS CHRIST 🙏🏻🙏🏻 Amen Amen. Thank you so much for the valuable message from the WORD OF GOD, Brother Zac poonen Garu. GOD bless you and family Always Brother. Years or days after searching, GOD'S WORD is always there for each one of us at the right time. 🙌🏻👏🏻All Glory to GOD and Gratitude to ALMIGHTY Our Saviour LORD JESUS CHRIST Amen Amen 🙏🏻 “My times are in Your hands …” Psalm 31:15. At the right time, God will provide your need. At the right time, God will deliver you.
@vinodkumarnaiknenavath6526
@vinodkumarnaiknenavath6526 15 күн бұрын
There is a church called the full gospel church of God , Langerhouse.
@aleyammathomas7851
@aleyammathomas7851 Ай бұрын
Praise the Lord 🙏
@BencyJoshy-cz1ec
@BencyJoshy-cz1ec 28 күн бұрын
Thank God 🙌
@Mercybhutan
@Mercybhutan Ай бұрын
Amen Amen 🙏 praise the lord 🙌
@theministryoftheholyspirit5330
@theministryoftheholyspirit5330 29 күн бұрын
😢wonderful..Praise The Lord....Very Seldom we here this....The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of Truth....he leads us in all truth..
@omnitrus
@omnitrus 24 күн бұрын
This is so true!Thank you!
@aksash5870
@aksash5870 Ай бұрын
So what shall I do? I will pray with my spirit, but I will also pray with my understanding; I will sing with my spirit, but I will also sing with my understanding.
@ranipaul100
@ranipaul100 Ай бұрын
Very true to the core Brother 👌
@AlexEvangilstministries
@AlexEvangilstministries Ай бұрын
Amen
@lettherebelight3551
@lettherebelight3551 Ай бұрын
Excellent
@ratnasahu3116
@ratnasahu3116 24 күн бұрын
Yes true
@aberdeenaberdeen3959
@aberdeenaberdeen3959 22 күн бұрын
music is good there was no electricity during the time of Jesus Christ
@shiromipeiris4830
@shiromipeiris4830 24 күн бұрын
Music is very necessary in church worship. We can join with the anthems of heaven where God is praised and worshiped without ceasing, when we worship in the Holy Spirit. Christian rock and those who show off their talents without gloryfying God and without godliness in the Spirit is the problem.
@josephkennedyemmanuel9658
@josephkennedyemmanuel9658 20 күн бұрын
Why not show your God given talent!!! It Glorifies God!!!! This is mind control by the Church!!!!
@sijodass8595
@sijodass8595 27 күн бұрын
Praise the Lord Pastor, its a eye opener message thank you. one more clarification i need that lucifer has the ability of praise God with all music sounds. that means God likes all the musical instruments. so that when its come to the temple by Solomon he appointed a big group for singing and use the musical instruments. there also god is so concerned and glory was manifested on the ark. king David also arranged a group of people for sing and praise on the bringing time of arc from philistines. this all indicates that God loves music and praises, how much we can give from all our effort that's worth. lucifer is on jealous on human because he failed to worship, but the Gods people are worshiping in truth and spirit. my opinion is we have to worship God with all our heart. spirit and ability. we should give as mush music to lord in a worthy and good manner... even in the alone time also.....
@dibaneshsaha4284
@dibaneshsaha4284 26 күн бұрын
I got banned and kicked out from the church for saying this to the Pastor - pastor said do you think we are rickshawalas 😢
@biblestudywithmike2251
@biblestudywithmike2251 25 күн бұрын
Sorry to hear tht brother
@bernhardbauer5301
@bernhardbauer5301 25 күн бұрын
There is the Brandenberger family. They and others singing christian hymns. Women covered as Paul orders in 1Cor.11. Nobody uses the Index finger pointing on others. They praise the Lord, my dear Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.
@aliasreco
@aliasreco 21 күн бұрын
I play piano. Or organ. I made sure for many years we would not put a band (or me) on the foreground. (nor nice girls in short skirts on the podium). Be aware...
@jeremyrothrock6163
@jeremyrothrock6163 Ай бұрын
With a desire to worship Him in Spirit and truth, I'm not sure what brother Poonen means by "showing God our feet". Is this a reference to praying on our knees? Can anyone elaborate?
@KTHBible
@KTHBible Ай бұрын
No, it's not referring to praying on our knees. There are lot of deceptions these days in many churches in the name of being filled with Holy Spirit, some people lose control of themselves, they jump and fall backwards showing their legs towards the stage (pulpit). It's like dishonouring God by all such gimmicks. Holy Spirit helps us to have control over ourselves and everything. The Power of Holy Spirit helps us to stand firm and overcome sins and not make us fall down.
@jeremyrothrock6163
@jeremyrothrock6163 Ай бұрын
@@KTHBible Got it. Thank you! Many blessings in Christ!
@Teeawesome
@Teeawesome 26 күн бұрын
I pray always that the church may come to the full knowledge of the spiritual things of God. And they may eschew bitterness to stop the critic of music and understand why it’s 24/7 songs and music in heaven. Nothing elevates the spirit like a good music vehicle of both divine sound and truthful lyrics. Even the demonic afflicted king Saul was healed through the music strings of David. Don’t be mad that I said godly beautiful music gets me drunk. Just go and search your scriptures and ask Holy Spirit to give you a wonderful experience of Holy Spirit waltz alone with Him in the middle of your misery.
@jonathanpious6637
@jonathanpious6637 25 күн бұрын
Music is a gift of God to us. He created music, not us. Now you can use it to worship the devil or worship the true and living God, King Jesus. I don’t see a problem with music in the church as long as it is used in the right way. If whoever leading the worship songs trying to get all the attention to themself, they are hindering people from worshiping God. But I’ve known so many gifted worship leaders who are so humble that, they give all the glory to the Lord in the way they lead.
@johnbaptist5488
@johnbaptist5488 15 күн бұрын
you seems not to get the point of his message...yes music is a gift from to worship n praise God ..but God must be our centre of worship not music...n ohr generation we are using music as idol .n thats the problem
@patrickdecruz9217
@patrickdecruz9217 24 күн бұрын
You have to ask the question whether the "Holy Spirit" is supposedly weak enough to be replaced by anything else. We are asking a question here not only about the human psyche, in allowing something as powerful as the "Holy Spirit" being replaced by something/anything else but also a question of whether we believe the "Holy Spirit" to be strong enough in & of its own, to disallow for its own displacement in our minds & our psyche. When we decide rather readily that the "Holy Spirit" may/can be replaced by something or anything else relatively benign, we allow for the fact/(possibility that the fact) that the "Holy Spirit" is indeed a weak entity in our lives. Not only does this tell you clearly that one's belief & faith is in question but also the possibility that the "Holy Spirit" in & of itself isn't as strong for everyone as we believe it to be. I mean that if the "Spirit" we're totally benevolent and strong for each one, we would not have to question the possibility that it could relatively easily be replaced by anything else.
@aberdeenaberdeen3959
@aberdeenaberdeen3959 22 күн бұрын
the old generation doesnt want music the new generation wants it so its good that at least they come to church and sing and praise God what do you think will be happening in heaven Pastors will be out of job no one wants to hear them in heaven because there will be singers singing Gods praise
@menonjoefalcao
@menonjoefalcao Ай бұрын
Mar Mari bishop talks about it and also curry blake from the USA .Was it done like in times of old?
@user-ew9nq9kr9g
@user-ew9nq9kr9g 29 күн бұрын
We Imitate King David ,who have the heart of God.
@SGOV86
@SGOV86 25 күн бұрын
The word says that we should imitate Jesus for He is our ultimate example.
@aileenhouston4486
@aileenhouston4486 20 күн бұрын
A good question??????
@georgevincent6728
@georgevincent6728 19 күн бұрын
It's true that many churches are attracting people by visual and audio effects. I had been thinking about the accusation about the rock musicians for decades. I listen to rock music, I like the sound and the energy it gives. Rock music is just another genre which sounds different. I know that there are a lot of rock musicians who take drugs and some even have said that they have sold their soul to satan. But does that mean the other genre of musicians are clean, what about pop musicians like Justin Bieber, Madonna, Michael Jackson, etc. What about Carnatic musicians, there are many alcoholics. What about Reggae, Bob Marley was a smoker of Marijuana. Please stop making the rock musicians as the only bad people.
@oldmanjoe6808
@oldmanjoe6808 23 күн бұрын
Worldly congregations resort to Rock & Roll bands on stage as the means to pretend holiness. Can you imagine, at the Last Supper, the disciples doing this very thing?
@STIXAHOY
@STIXAHOY 26 күн бұрын
Dear pastor....... you say Christians are dressed like Rock Stars these days......I agree......but how can you judge and say they are living godless lives.. some might be..... But some might not......what we wear is insignificant..... Looks at the Pharisees in the bible..... they were adorned in religious garments... I'm a musician... And my call is to evoke an atmosphere with music to Usher in an environment that facilitates prophetic anointment Not like that of a Rock Star Just so you know brother
@archanachettri7283
@archanachettri7283 24 күн бұрын
Thats true... What he is saying about slain in the spirit is totally deceptive...slain in the spirit is real,may be haven't experienced it ...lord has said taste and see may be haven't tasted
@Unknown.servant
@Unknown.servant 23 күн бұрын
You need to get in the Word. Jesus Christ is who has ushered us into the presence of God when he said it is finished and the vail was rent from top to bottom. As far as the clothes of the pharisees, there is too much to get into here but I will say, Christ told his disciples unless your righteousness exceed the righteousness of the pharisees........ this you ought to have done, and Not left the other undone
@eunyju7284
@eunyju7284 16 күн бұрын
You are right but Holy Spirit can work with one and with many. God gives you one member or thousand. Don't judge. Music is created by God but not to copy the world style. Pls preach the Word and stop comparing and judging.
@marthaabrams9062
@marthaabrams9062 24 күн бұрын
Something is definitely wrong here,
@menonjoefalcao
@menonjoefalcao Ай бұрын
They worship mammon by going against the word of God .
@Richy1anita
@Richy1anita Ай бұрын
Has grace replaced the law?
@Unknown.servant
@Unknown.servant 23 күн бұрын
Not sure what you are asking...... the law came by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ. Christ came not to do away with the law, but to fulfill the law. So the great question is, are we in Christ? And is Christ in us?
@Richy1anita
@Richy1anita 23 күн бұрын
@@Unknown.servant did the law exist before Moses?
@Unknown.servant
@Unknown.servant 23 күн бұрын
@Richy1anita God's moral law has always existed. Ceremonial and dietary laws wets instituted by God through Moses to the Jewish people in order to show their separation from the other nations and to Him(among other things).
@Richy1anita
@Richy1anita 23 күн бұрын
@@Unknown.servant and has the Moral Law, the Ten Commandments, has ever been changed?
@Unknown.servant
@Unknown.servant 23 күн бұрын
@Richy1anita does God change? Of the 10 specific Commandments 9 are repeated in the NT, with the exception being the Sabbath........as Christ is our Sabbath
@jimihendrixx11
@jimihendrixx11 23 күн бұрын
Music was what Lucifer was the best at
@josephkennedyemmanuel9658
@josephkennedyemmanuel9658 20 күн бұрын
(1)What kind of music did lucifer play? Rock? Which instruments? There is no concrete satisfying evidence of it the biblical verse. What were other Angels doing? Lucifer is best only at doing everything opposite of what Jesus does. (2) Rock music, also known as rock and roll, originated in the United States in the 1950s. It developed from African American music like rhythm and blues, boogie-woogie, jump blues, GOSPEL, and electric blues, as well as country music. Cleveland disc jockey Alan Freed is credited with coining the term "rock and roll" in 1951 when he started playing rhythm and blues for a multiracial audience. Blues is an emotionally drenched history of the slaves in America. (3) Gospel is worship music. Thats the most identifying sound in blues/ rock. (4) Rock is rebellion too, a voice against corrupt politics, the evils of organised religion, Profiteering capitalist monopoly. (5) Rock speaks up LOUD!! Live Aid was one of the greatest rock gathering for supporting Africa ,so was the Concert for Bangladesh. So many great examples of the good existing in every area of work. .. (6) Where did the idea of Holocaust start.. It was the child of ethic pride in state sponsored murder of Jewish People. The ideology spread like wildfire in the universities with its politicians, professors and doctors. The Wars/genocide/pandemics start with religious views, political (Demography /economical) preservation of power . (7)JS Bach to Eddie Van Halen never started wars. Musician usually mind their own business. God has given us the talent of playing instruments and singing. We Practice. So we have to hone our Art to achieve desired standards getting closer to perfection. The Band Yashua is a fine example of a profession that praises God. So is the group called Petra. If so many bands are Satanists. We should raise the army of worship teams and fight them with a War cry in the name of Jesus. Artist Fame is good as far as it does not get puffed with pride!! (8) Simply one thing Rock is a sound of an amp that distorts. Its a style of music and a tool for human expression. (9)The Bible talks about the condition of the human heart and God's mighty acts through Jesus and the Holy spirit. Do everything for the glory of God. So preachers and pastors kindly do not discourage the people who choose to pursue music as a career. You are looking at the Guitars and Black dresses while the LORD looks and the condition of the human heart. Preacher you are generalising and judging so many aspiring musicians as if they are committing the greatest sin. For us , we have one root and that is God has given us music and we have to respect that Gift to the best of our ability. As full time musicians( Rock, Jazz, Classical, Folk) we have to support our family and for that financial stability is very important. If the preacher wants me to quit my career and guarantees me financial stability all through my life. I would never be that kind of apprentice. (10) Next time preacher post a sermon on doctors, Engineers and Politicians, Lawyers, Boxers, Martial artists. Leave musicians alone. I have been listening to this rant since I heard " Stairway to Heaven" by Led Zeppelin. and it has not affected my faith in Jesus at all.....
@JkOthers
@JkOthers 15 күн бұрын
I always think about these satan is a great musician......the most is the music....etc..👍
@josephmccain8151
@josephmccain8151 Ай бұрын
Awemen @ we need a move of the Spirit to return to a Love of The Truth Pure Unadulterated Truth The Word of God our Father In Christ Jesus Revealed through The Comforter Encourager The Holy Spirit Enough circus dog pony shows led by mans soul governed by his master money our Father's House of Prayer needs ZERO more of this filth
@user-nr5bw5uo4e
@user-nr5bw5uo4e 25 күн бұрын
This guy is bitter and probably twisted,he should try investigating call centres where real evil exists stealing from vulnerable people.
@Unknown.servant
@Unknown.servant 23 күн бұрын
I don't know him, first time seeing one of his videos........ but you seem kinda bitter 😂😂😂
@user-nr5bw5uo4e
@user-nr5bw5uo4e 23 күн бұрын
@@Unknown.servant I am your worst nightmare.
@Unknown.servant
@Unknown.servant 23 күн бұрын
@@user-nr5bw5uo4e 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤖
@kyrsoiboknongbri6200
@kyrsoiboknongbri6200 26 күн бұрын
Totally disagree with you for a spirit of pharisees and sadhusees, your speech has really has confused the true followers of Christ, stop your speeh has become a stumbling block with a spirit of confusion, judge not for you will not be judge else by what you judge others God also will judge you, repent from this.
@archanachettri7283
@archanachettri7283 24 күн бұрын
Yes
@marthaabrams9062
@marthaabrams9062 24 күн бұрын
If I have to attend your church, it will be terrible,
@JesusforCologne
@JesusforCologne 17 күн бұрын
He is very judgy. God hates such attitude. He is not in the position to judge other indian missionaries and pastors and also has no right to judge worship musicians for the reason they are dressed in a modern way. He sounds like a pharisee.
@SmilingAardvark-pl6sj
@SmilingAardvark-pl6sj 29 күн бұрын
I think a powerless man like Jack Ponnan will only say something like this because he won't understand how God uses things in his power. Mark16:15-20 he is rich himself and enjoying luxury but criticizing others such a hypocrite man he is...
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