Has Ruto Convinced Kenyans?

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KTN News Kenya

KTN News Kenya

5 күн бұрын

Standard Group editors Kipkoech Tanui, Ken Mijungu, and Charles Otieno dissect Ruto's administration's reaction to the recent anti-government protests that have pushed the president to make tough decisions to appease the angry youth.
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@TheVendor1260
@TheVendor1260 4 күн бұрын
This country should address the retirement packages of politicians as well.
@junia_254
@junia_254 4 күн бұрын
They should be like any other citizens after retirement, just like teachers and doctors,just pension and it's over.
@Wilky254
@Wilky254 4 күн бұрын
No he hasn't....it's too late and we Will never be CONVINCED Hata na Dawa....
@johnomenda1951
@johnomenda1951 4 күн бұрын
If ruto has "climbed* ,down he should now pay×2 from what he stole us Kenyans and walk away to Sigoi.
@nacymostfavoured6334
@nacymostfavoured6334 3 күн бұрын
It's a personal choice as a citizen to take what you take from Him. He is not God or an angel and none of us is ,were we to be in his position. He can only do so much, and others in the future will continue. Issues in Kenya have been a compounded problem for many years It's never too late or early to solve a problem.
@eliudgitau7928
@eliudgitau7928 3 күн бұрын
​@@nacymostfavoured6334you have reasoned well, very few are
@ring-tone278
@ring-tone278 4 күн бұрын
Ruto should also resign on Grounds of Ethics and Integrity for bribing MPs to vote “Yes”. That should not be expected of any sitting president of the Republic of Kenya, who is expected to lead by example. This is a very serious issue. His example is Corruption, the very basis of the protests. A scourge in Kenya and A Shame to Kenya locally and oversea. Good Governance must be restored in the country. Kenya deserves better than this.
@junia_254
@junia_254 4 күн бұрын
And he is fighting corruption 😂😂
@cmg8683
@cmg8683 3 күн бұрын
We have no IEBC to oversee another election the army will happily take over and oh no no we don’t want another Somalia in Kenya 😢
@junia_254
@junia_254 3 күн бұрын
@@cmg8683 but we have the judiciary,if he's not overthrown but resigns peacefully,it will just be peaceful like anyone campaign and election time, unless he manages to put it (judiciary) in his pockets just like the legislature.
@eliudgitau7928
@eliudgitau7928 3 күн бұрын
Are you sure the MPs were bribed by president??? I think sometimes we are so gullible we fall for any lie. The very reason a terrific opportunity we have to change the way things happens in our country is being hijacked. Our fight must be based on facts and truth for us to succeed
@daviddavis7959
@daviddavis7959 3 күн бұрын
The president does not use his own money to do such vices he uses the confidential budget of 1.4b that he get. This is our taxes he uses to bribe, pay goons, fund projects and appear he is donating from his own pocket. This was the budget that he said will be cancelled. Other state offciers also get one and this is how corruption thrives
@user-zq2pw8xv7f
@user-zq2pw8xv7f 4 күн бұрын
Ruto convinced Church leaders to shift FOCUS from ETERNAL KINGDOM to Earthly kingdoms; He cannot convince wise Kenyans who are Focused on LOVE and Justice.
@b.3940
@b.3940 4 күн бұрын
I am a mental health therapist and i counsel many drug addicts. Most addicts have a manipulative personality and most retain the manipulation even after they stop using drugs. Ruto is addicted to lying and stealing and i do not expect him to change. The only solution is for him to step down. Period.
@adokaish
@adokaish 4 күн бұрын
Whaa!
@Purplebutterfl124
@Purplebutterfl124 4 күн бұрын
Exactly
@joycenasambu2658
@joycenasambu2658 4 күн бұрын
I need therapy please,im not a drug addict but I'm depression is killing me slowly
@naomifavor2887
@naomifavor2887 4 күн бұрын
Shindwe it's God who changes hearts not psychology
@abishagikairu1763
@abishagikairu1763 3 күн бұрын
I would like to speak to you about some standardised natural health products which work wonders at the cellular levels with mind-blowing testimonies for this condition and also other health conditions.
@kahugumuiruri9057
@kahugumuiruri9057 4 күн бұрын
Only actions will sanitize Ruto, so far he is still talking, maybe talking lies
@adokaish
@adokaish 4 күн бұрын
It's over for Ruto and he doesn't know
@user-sb6ek7vn8e
@user-sb6ek7vn8e 4 күн бұрын
Going to church and carrying a Bible doesn't tell much about ones character. It is deeds that speak.
@charlesgreen4179
@charlesgreen4179 4 күн бұрын
There is nothing Ruto has done. Look at his government appointments ... He has all of his tribe men leading most of the institutions
@wakawaka5131
@wakawaka5131 4 күн бұрын
my friend...that doesn't mean anything. People need to realize that the powers in government employing "tribesmen" as you say does nothing for the tribe as is assumed. It is more of doing favors for financiers, friends and family something every politician on earth does and will always do.
@emilykendagor4508
@emilykendagor4508 3 күн бұрын
Yes. Out of 22 CSs a whole 4 are from his tribe, 8 from the Gema community..
@merchantcharles1954
@merchantcharles1954 2 күн бұрын
Proof please. No falsity.
@user-sb6ek7vn8e
@user-sb6ek7vn8e 4 күн бұрын
Well done guys. A very honest and lively discussion.
@MrNicong
@MrNicong 4 күн бұрын
He's just trying to quell things. He's corrupt to the bone and he ought to go.
@junia_254
@junia_254 4 күн бұрын
Imagine he corrupts even parliament,he can never change
@geo6460
@geo6460 3 күн бұрын
His job actually is to cover the deeds of the previous government. The Western world has taught them how to do it perfectly. UhuruRutto stole together. Same people still work for them. Treasurery and Central bank bosses are flipped over. What does that tell you?
@TheVendor1260
@TheVendor1260 4 күн бұрын
He is only buying time, pretending to turn things around but woe unto Kenya if they vote him back. How does he fix what he is a main player in?
@ring-tone278
@ring-tone278 4 күн бұрын
What a wastage of public tax-payer's money? 285 employees for an unconstitutional office + all the other illegal offices. Not only should these offices be shut down but all the public taxpayer's money, every penny that has been paid to these offices must be recovered. Kenyans do not have this kind of money to waste this way.
@BernardNgugi-wc7wb
@BernardNgugi-wc7wb 4 күн бұрын
I think what Kenyan should do after all this sarakasi is to revisit our Katiba.keep it up Gen-z God with uuuuuuuu...
@Allpro007
@Allpro007 4 күн бұрын
Retiring civil servants suddenly at 60 isn’t a good idea at all , they have families and how many jobs will that create
@jescahmagomere3704
@jescahmagomere3704 4 күн бұрын
I propose inoder for Ginez tlo get employment all civil servant who has attained the age of 55yrs should be retrenched be paid all full benefits and replace them with young Genez. That will creat some employment to the young people . That is my personal take don't swallow please .
@Allpro007
@Allpro007 4 күн бұрын
@@jescahmagomere3704 , remember some of them are relatives to Gnz and the country will loose on experienced and skilled personnel. Moi did same and it was devastating to families plus it never solved on unemployment problems. Kenya population is only 50 million , if we focus on innovation and manufacturing the country will be importing labor instead of downsizing
@samuelotieno5297
@samuelotieno5297 3 күн бұрын
​@@Allpro007I agree with your point on job creation. On retirement, I don't quite agree. Those reaching 60 have been in employment for at least 30 years. They should have invested well by now. Do not forget that they well also earn a monthly pension on top of the lumpsum retirement package. At 60, one has nothing more to offer!
@JohnMwai-mr2xq
@JohnMwai-mr2xq 3 күн бұрын
😫😫😫😫It’s unfortunate that Ruto has tainted not just his image but the whole community and also international image.Genzs are giving him a small breather to see how he’s gonna reorganize his government else they’ll be back on streets.This guy was busy settling imaginable tribal scores by bringing down businesses,demolishing houses meant for your imaginary tribal enemies at the expense of other communities.What a shame? How do you expect to collect taxes , lower unemployment yet you’re demolishing businesses meant to pay taxes and employ?Genzs have made us proud because they’re tribaless, no party affiliations & fearless. How we wish the next election will be won by independents especially by Genzs. These parties we have are controlled by individuals and that’s why some parliamentarians feels like hostages of their party leaders.The advantage of independence is is that your allegiance is on the people who elected you and not party leaders.
@HenryOtieno-n8l
@HenryOtieno-n8l 4 күн бұрын
if Ruto still in office i don't have peace, why should i live i can't let my self suffer like this, power belongs to us no anyone else...
@user-zq2pw8xv7f
@user-zq2pw8xv7f 4 күн бұрын
Journalist should not be used to shift Gen Z agenda.
@wilddestiny454
@wilddestiny454 4 күн бұрын
Qwni at what point did Kenyans realize ruto's tongue is a lying one when his predecessor told us so before the 2022 elections?
@user-lb9en3zx7e
@user-lb9en3zx7e 3 күн бұрын
Why are you bringing in the issue of his predecessor! He is worse than them all combined! This is biased politicts and its a disgrace in the PURSUIT AND VISION FOR THE GEN Z! Didnt This president cry baby from the treatment he recieved from that filthy regime? Didnt learn anything from that? Is he on a revenge tragectory and in the process hurting the innocent? who is this person? Could it be an AI clone?
@neolink-ei8lq
@neolink-ei8lq 4 күн бұрын
TRUST is a very important value that any leader and especially a president like ruto ought to have propagated between him and kenyans. He has failed, Its too late to have in place. Majority of Kenyans can no longer trust a single promise he gives them.
@KABUYENIGHT
@KABUYENIGHT 4 күн бұрын
Glory to God almighty and may the Lord continue to bless him and help him gervern his country throughout his end of his term
@iwas2951
@iwas2951 3 күн бұрын
Beside all this, William Ruto need to do two things personally:1. He needs counseling with a medical professional to work on himself. He may be addicted to lying just as one is addicted to drugs. 2. Dont speak in church, just be a parishioner who bring himself to the alter to be convicted just like other human .The pastor is the caretaker of the church members who help to renew the soul.
@Sylvia-sd4mf
@Sylvia-sd4mf 4 күн бұрын
Perfectly put " They are asking for their "pound of flesh"
@godanaadhi8058
@godanaadhi8058 3 күн бұрын
Ruto should not go but has responsibility to fix the rot that is this country
@mwituamweene9850
@mwituamweene9850 4 күн бұрын
He was forced to condole with the bereaved of his citizens! FORCED! We have to keep his feet to the fire, keep the fire ON.
@DivineVelvet
@DivineVelvet 17 сағат бұрын
Suspending something can go either way 1. Suspend temporary Or 2. Suspend permanently. So the president need to tell Kenyans if the suspension is temporary or permanent.
@kenadvocate
@kenadvocate 4 күн бұрын
Its a first. I'm optimistic. No president has ever reacted this way to popular distress. He's listened, he's heard, he's not been aloof.
@charitynguyo3956
@charitynguyo3956 4 күн бұрын
"Consistency is the true foundation of trust. Either keep your promises or do not make them". Roy T. Bennett
@daughterofafrica
@daughterofafrica 4 күн бұрын
Matthew 7:15 Matthew 24:5
@user-zq2pw8xv7f
@user-zq2pw8xv7f 4 күн бұрын
Congratulations for knowledge.
@user-sb6ek7vn8e
@user-sb6ek7vn8e 4 күн бұрын
Thank you Ken for bringing out the case of Thuge and Njuguna. Let Ruto hear you question.
@rommelp8720
@rommelp8720 4 күн бұрын
When Ruto is talking, Ruto is lying! Ruto just needs to realize sooner, that in fact, it's over for him!!! Ruto You Must Go! Stand Down!🧐
@suzy1926
@suzy1926 4 күн бұрын
N till it happens...sorry I don't buy any of it.Actions speak louder
@gottimaranzano9409
@gottimaranzano9409 3 күн бұрын
Corruption is the biggest parasite.
@smartdee3757
@smartdee3757 4 күн бұрын
Am the first to view...nipewe likes zangu
@chela920
@chela920 4 күн бұрын
Great discussion here! Kenya lazima ibadilike!!
@rommelp8720
@rommelp8720 4 күн бұрын
Lazima !! Wata pata icho kitu Wana tafuta, wame ona , Wana ona sasa wanaenda kui chukua!🧐
@petermacdonald259
@petermacdonald259 4 күн бұрын
No
@PaulOpule-bt1lr
@PaulOpule-bt1lr 4 күн бұрын
The power of the People and Press cannot be taken for granted , it has now donned on William Ruto.
@MaselusOtieno
@MaselusOtieno 4 күн бұрын
Mr. President is a serious joker. Opaque, hot air balloon statements. Let him step a side
@maldiniinvescoltd701
@maldiniinvescoltd701 4 күн бұрын
He was couched on how to to go .
@joycepeter1284
@joycepeter1284 4 күн бұрын
GEN Z MOVEMENT IS A GOD -GIVEN IN KENYA. RUTO NEEDS TO KNOW, HIM BRIBING HIS MPS (M-PIGS) TO VOTE "YES" ON FINANCE BILL 2024 WAS AN ACT OF CRIMINALITY. Proverbs 21:15 says "When justice is done, it is a joy to the righteous but terror to evildoers"
@Purplebutterfl124
@Purplebutterfl124 4 күн бұрын
After telling us and showing us the true face then he goes oops I have to change the tune when it's not working you expect us to believe in that we are not stupid
@margaretwambete1228
@margaretwambete1228 3 күн бұрын
Knowledge able.panel.Thank you
@user-jy7ne3iw7y
@user-jy7ne3iw7y 4 күн бұрын
Hakuna mwengine ataweza hii Kenya sai only Mr. President. Let them retire kwani.
@georgeopiyo609
@georgeopiyo609 4 күн бұрын
Plethora of lies spewed through the teeth,... cant convince my nursary kid
@Manojere0071
@Manojere0071 3 күн бұрын
Super
@AllinOne-co7gw
@AllinOne-co7gw 3 күн бұрын
Its not whether he has convinced Kenyans yet. At this point he has only stated a position. Important is whether he will live up to it. If he does then he will have convinced Kenya, if not that's another matter.
@Afro-Funk-withFroKatai.-ld8ti
@Afro-Funk-withFroKatai.-ld8ti 4 күн бұрын
This was an intriguing conversation.
@BlackZorro-jd4pg
@BlackZorro-jd4pg 4 күн бұрын
but thankyou soo much MR Ruto ...for the PILLOW TALK.
@DuncanKimani-ps4yv
@DuncanKimani-ps4yv 4 күн бұрын
After all what is happening in kenya William ruto will end up being honored as the best president reading in democracy in Africa.
@davincimaths9492
@davincimaths9492 4 күн бұрын
Nonsense kagege
@johnmwangi5148
@johnmwangi5148 4 күн бұрын
which democracy are u talking about?
@user-jy7ne3iw7y
@user-jy7ne3iw7y 4 күн бұрын
Very true. And people will be left with awe. He is very intelligent.
@jamesmuriithi7137
@jamesmuriithi7137 3 күн бұрын
No! He will be the con artist of the 21st century
@marywilbourne200
@marywilbourne200 2 күн бұрын
He's not brave, he's simply a bold liar. Knowing him, he'll take this as a compliment.
@rihkaa6289
@rihkaa6289 4 күн бұрын
Actions will convince us,
@joemcfatter1170
@joemcfatter1170 4 күн бұрын
I am an American old guy following all this since it began. Ruto is blowing smoke up your rear ends (to put it mildly). He keeps saying it is "unfortunate" that so many youths were "unalived." SMH. He is DIRECTLY responsible for all that as I see. How can he not be brought down and charged??? Do not be deceived, he and his cohorts have too much at stake to just relinquish their hold without a continued powerful struggle.
@user-lb9en3zx7e
@user-lb9en3zx7e 3 күн бұрын
An american what?? steer off clear!!
@allenmaa7064
@allenmaa7064 3 күн бұрын
You are absolutely right.
@hanningtonmwangi4358
@hanningtonmwangi4358 4 күн бұрын
He cannot convince until it's done, like the xtian Thomas until you touch
@gloriakirimi7054
@gloriakirimi7054 4 күн бұрын
Peace is more convincing for me. losing a loved one makes you mute
@PaulOpule-bt1lr
@PaulOpule-bt1lr 4 күн бұрын
This is shading crocodile tears Mr William Samoei Ruto
@Sylvia-sd4mf
@Sylvia-sd4mf 4 күн бұрын
What is "Confidential Budget"?
@ruthmueni4690
@ruthmueni4690 4 күн бұрын
This need to be explained ,
@ruthmueni4690
@ruthmueni4690 4 күн бұрын
Nobody has inflicted pain in this president. Display of wealth happened under his own eyes. He should tell us, he was blind , didn’t know his responsibility to lead and protect Kenyans. Then tells us if he had known and provide evidence for this. Yes he is in self preservation mode, we all do it when we are cornered beyond our wits.
@CalvinceOtieno-j1k
@CalvinceOtieno-j1k 2 күн бұрын
To believe him it will take decades maybe our forth generation but not the current Gen z
@jeffndubi4866
@jeffndubi4866 4 күн бұрын
Pissed me off more
@rK-em4yy
@rK-em4yy 3 күн бұрын
It's not personal. The fact is Kenya is in dire economic state and needs the right man for this period.... Not a tryout or a vanity project etc.... Please the Christians among us, let's plead for God's mercy upon Kenya and for the right leaders..
@davidoliech7271
@davidoliech7271 3 күн бұрын
We will reach to say Hi to EACC and judiciary.
@patriciaonyango6531
@patriciaonyango6531 3 күн бұрын
This is not a Gen Z agenda. This is an entire county’s issue
@davidoliech7271
@davidoliech7271 3 күн бұрын
As you said he is either lying or flying.
@alphonsengarambe4276
@alphonsengarambe4276 3 күн бұрын
🎉 wawuuuu Gen z vis Ruto His excellence William Ruto : 1. Advise now like social media Guy: taking measure of creating work to GEN z 2. Indemnity to GEN z 3. Free Visa when Gen z where ever you go 4. Introduce magufurization 5. Introduce tasks force against corruption faster 6. Made tasks force controls how Gen z leaders understand theirs willingly ideas in office of president and ministry of youth
@georgeandhoney.
@georgeandhoney. 4 күн бұрын
Tanui is one smart guy...
@daviddavis7959
@daviddavis7959 3 күн бұрын
What i got from the X conversation from the questionaires is that the president has no empathy. thats so sad for his own people to think of him like that. Moi was corrupt and a dictator. But one thing no one ever thought Moi did not have empathy. He even started the milk program which i was a beneficiary. he started a series of schools and Unviversities and even started from scratch a primary, secondary and university on his own land. No president even dicators want to be seen to be not to be empathetic
@joycenasambu2658
@joycenasambu2658 4 күн бұрын
I'm not convinced
@marynyaga4911
@marynyaga4911 4 күн бұрын
The cat is out of the bag and it cannot be crawled back.’
@manyakivacky9216
@manyakivacky9216 4 күн бұрын
I'm telling Kenyan with an open heart that the country will be at Afol way even Ruto went on a protest to workers to day bay using must go, so he is the second Gen z to his on government
@user-js3yi6ek8s
@user-js3yi6ek8s 3 күн бұрын
HE MUST REFUND THE MONEY HIS FRIENDS USED ON HIS CAMPAIGNS!!! IF HE CANNOT HE WILL BE FORCED TO PLACE THEM IN A CORNER WHERE THEY CAN CONTINUE SIPHONING MONEY IN A RECOVERY EFFORT.
@4custaywithme
@4custaywithme 4 күн бұрын
Out of sight out of mind.
@florencenyandiko3136
@florencenyandiko3136 3 күн бұрын
he has convinced us all right...that his full of hot air and a red herring
@niominiomi3334
@niominiomi3334 4 күн бұрын
Rubio has convinced me that Ruto must go.
@johnobalah8617
@johnobalah8617 3 күн бұрын
Ruto has not convinced Kenyans Ruto has to do much more there is still much more to be done to convince kenyans
@emilynjeru2299
@emilynjeru2299 4 күн бұрын
I have heard him say he will sign bill by Tuesday
@khalifmohamed7303
@khalifmohamed7303 4 күн бұрын
So much bushings doesn't not solve any problems , people May agree with me Only GOD most sufficient, no human being is perfect and sufficient, please let's have respect and called the president a lier is totally Disrespectful and shame, lets the government performs there duties please 🙏 Kenyan
@peterwandera8273
@peterwandera8273 4 күн бұрын
What work do women reps do for the nation, flower girls?
@beyondthepast9356
@beyondthepast9356 2 күн бұрын
Kenya needs fresh start, let it b a vacuum in 90 days, then the leader will be given by God. Ruto go home!!
@majmuirurithiongo2601
@majmuirurithiongo2601 4 күн бұрын
But he said he will borrow
@manyakivacky9216
@manyakivacky9216 4 күн бұрын
President says workers must go Gen z also says Ruto must go Sorry Kenya is at A mess wether Kenyan say what
@monalisawm
@monalisawm 4 күн бұрын
President Ruto has proved to be a leader, especially at this time when different entities are working overtime to discredit his leadership and presidency.
@everlyneatieno9615
@everlyneatieno9615 4 күн бұрын
Didn't he know abt Murkonens 280million ksh?...wasn't his mind working overtime to save Murkochieth?
@urslaoburu3736
@urslaoburu3736 4 күн бұрын
Never ever
@ruthwaithera2650
@ruthwaithera2650 3 күн бұрын
Aiiiiii😂😂😂😂 naogopa kuingizwa box tena...alianza hivo tu.mdomo mzuri,mdomo tamu alafu akabadilika
@TheLilly
@TheLilly 3 күн бұрын
If you think Ruto has convinced anyone you're highly mistaken💯 And this message is for Osama Otero, "Aye nenyuma kabisa, enyuma engundo ekorumbasa"💩💩💩💩💩
@user-gw5iy8fj9i
@user-gw5iy8fj9i 4 күн бұрын
Yes the ones who took Hongo / Bribe in Millions.
@BlackZorro-jd4pg
@BlackZorro-jd4pg 4 күн бұрын
RUTO... YOUR PILLOW TALK IS NOT WORKING. I dont dream of a better Motherland with your Parliament.
@majmuirurithiongo2601
@majmuirurithiongo2601 4 күн бұрын
My God dont u think ruto is just playing games
@antoinettekankindi6807
@antoinettekankindi6807 4 күн бұрын
But do you trust what he says now? He given less that what they asked. And they want him to go
@stephenmacharia4847
@stephenmacharia4847 4 күн бұрын
Just for asking,we business people of Nairobi county why charge Ksh 500 for kunguni spray to millions small/Big business people, where is going to????
@mosamamwikwabe3440
@mosamamwikwabe3440 4 күн бұрын
Ruto is good president to Kenya, what he was lacking is people who could advise him correctly. He is a good listener more than most presidents in the world, by 100% he listens and he understands: the blame has to go to the cabinet and Parliament, they would have the gen z before the Gen,z took their role to bring the real issues to the president 🙏
@mwituamweene9850
@mwituamweene9850 4 күн бұрын
BS
@yunisahmed9979
@yunisahmed9979 4 күн бұрын
The Gen z protest is really awakening Ruto to a reality. The oresident seemed not to be in touch with the Realities. He was on his own world and delinked from the difficulties and hell kenyans were going thr. That was why we ve been seeing him flying moreoften even when there were widesptead condemnation, , every evening road side rallies xterised by TUTA..... atleast i expect no foreign flught for this year and no road side rallies ya tuta
@Msemaukwelikweli
@Msemaukwelikweli Күн бұрын
He doesnt need to convince me i will still vote for him again and again. Pretty sure the sponsors of the last weeks happening are struggling how they will put Raila in the mix so that he will be seen as a savior tumewaonea 18
@cate1645
@cate1645 4 күн бұрын
Let us be wise,do not take things for granted, when you hit someone and goes on the ground do you continue hitting ....
@marykaguma3512
@marykaguma3512 4 күн бұрын
We don't want to be convinced we just want him to resign! We are the HR devious Ruto go home will contact you later Jog on!
@elizabethl5961
@elizabethl5961 4 күн бұрын
Ruto must go
@kenyanslove6942
@kenyanslove6942 4 күн бұрын
As for me I vote for that zakayo but now I can't vote for him I can't believe I vote for him
@user-jy7ne3iw7y
@user-jy7ne3iw7y 4 күн бұрын
The problem is you never listen to him, you assume him. President president president hamchoki
@KABUYENIGHT
@KABUYENIGHT 4 күн бұрын
Leave our beloved president
@ruthmueni4690
@ruthmueni4690 4 күн бұрын
Christianity is total love not prayers or carrying a bible , period!
@akokoleen6438
@akokoleen6438 4 күн бұрын
That Irony of Njuguna n thuge still being in the money offices shd clearly tell how the money was disappearing then and now
@stove7197
@stove7197 4 күн бұрын
Ken is so wrong in hyping up these so called concessions because to do so falsely implies that these things were proper to begin with. A thief cannot be praised and said to be giving concessions when they are caught and then agree to return a few items they had stolen from you.
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