Truth is beauty because God is both. Divine Simplicity.

We get so lost "trying to understand a philosophy instead of getting to know a man" when reading the Gospels. Very good point

Having experienced nonstop lies in the last two years, I believe to my core truth is beauty. So much so that you crave it & become depressed when it is withheld.

My favorite pastor told us years ago that "Jesus told us to turn the other cheek, but he never said that we couldn't duck...You don't have to continue to stand there and take abuse for the enjoyment of others ".

"I taught myself how to read Koine Greek" Okay now you're just showing off Andrew. I'm too stupid for this conversation.

I LOVE Andrew Klaven! He's so smart funny and handsome!! I'm waiting for his book. Thank you Michael for having him on your show, Andrew is amazing.

I love listening to smart people, I'm no dumb dumb but when you listen to smart people like Petwrson and Klaven, I know I'm getting smarter, not cocky but more understanding

I nominated Klavan for Secretary of Education but no one listened to me.

One of the most important things I have taken away from listening to hundreds of hours or Dr Jordan Peterson, is that within beauty, lies a truth. I'm sure as he would say, these beautiful things are meta-truths. A truth so deep that mere mortals cannot barely comprehend it in a single lifetime. In fact, few amongst us are so profound as to even attempt understanding these truths. It can take generations to unfold such things, and try to explain them in something as simple as an oral story, let alone a great painting or poem. A great artwork is by nature beautiful. What makes it beautiful is the profound truth it explores.

Love this conversation; thank you! Looking forward to learning through this book. I have a curious observation of my own. I often get the same small shiver as I hear someone speak a truth (that is often unpopular to think), or hear stunning pure music, or see something beautiful, be it a sunset, movie, painting.. like it reflects something of God’s character, who is the author of truth. The opposite happens, a shudder, when hearing lies or ugly actions or words. Not always, just sometimes! Just sayin 😏

I've seen the similarities between our time and the French Revolution too. The revolution went too far in destroying the past, and the new order was impractical and unworkable. But the revolutionaries created a void which was filled by a military leader, Napoleon Bonaparte. I also see similarities with Cromwell's Puritan Commonwealth in England. When Cromwell died, the radicals were no longer able to keep power. The English were more than happy to enter the Restoration Period.

I completely understand where Andrew Klavan has been. I've been there, myself.

“The truth and beauty-a truly beautiful book.”

“Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance “ is a novel that also deals with what is Truth, what is Beauty…

Thanks for the Book Andrew and this episode Michael

How to complement your close friend, and do it naturally...

I did not realize that Andrew Klavan is so intelligent.

Hey Michael love to see you on the new mass for ages trailer. Keep up the great work.

I'll have to check out this book at some point, thanks for sharing. I'll add it to my wishlist so I don't forget. I'm not a Christian but I'm interested and open. Currently reading "Mere Christianity" from a recommendation from Johnny Doyle.

added to my reading list! Only 137 books in front of it!

Being an artist myself, currently practicing the art of bonsai but art of many forms. I dont make something just to produce a piece of art. I can't even make something if I'm not feeling it speaking to me even before I start. That goes for trees, drawings, paintings it doesn't matter.

I preordered his book a week or two ago, it’s going to be really good

Absolutely love this🥰

My interest has always lain with visual and architectural art but I've become more interested in literary art lately. My last frontier so to speak really is poetry. I have read and I continue trying to read it but it still evades me some. It's possible that I lack the context to appreciate what is being spoken of but it's also possible that I am simply far from understanding it yet. I think the idea of viewing these works with the mind that many of them are in fact related to the vision, the interpretation, the idea of God and by extension beauty may well be helpful. I do very much believe in beauty that is not related to taste necessarily and I want to engage more. Thank you for the discussion.

I learned about these poets and ideas in my public high school literature class my junior year. I wonder if it's still in the curriculum. I was amazed at all the biblical allusions in the works we studied.

*I have never been able to "warm up" to Wordsworth after reading that he dismissed Keats's "Endymion" as "a pretty piece of paganism."*

I want to read this book now. Very true about the knee jerk reactions to what Jesus says in the Bible. I kind of want to read it as a novel as he did to get to know the man. I vaguely remember there being a book about Jesus' sense of humor that was good too.

Watching this 5 days after "the slap" and you talking about turning the other cheek is making me giggle.

Love Metternich's pic !

I think I need this book.

To all the dear friends at the Daily Wire, a Disney TV movie really good to watch with family, children ages 4-12yrs. Moochie and the Little League(1959) The real Walt Disney.It is on KZfaq.Realistic of those times.. I was 10 yrs old. It has the Skipper from Gilligans Island in it.

Yeah, man I don’t know. From where I sit most people don’t even think beauty exists. Maybe it’s cause I’m working a low-skill position in a factory, but asking these questions that Andrew is raising here only seems to get me ignored by my coworkers. I’ve become the typical liberal arts major janitor. It’s a very lonely life. I feel like an alien. It seems like it’s better to simply not ask such questions or else you’ll just alienate yourself from those around you. Once while clocking out a coworker mentioned she was reading a book about angels and demons, and I asked her if she believed in such things herself, and she just said, “I just go with the flow”. I asked her what that meant and the response was just for her to look at her phone and end the conversation. I think most people could not care less whether there’s a God, or Truth or Beauty. Certainly that’s been my experience. It makes me kinda sad, and again I feel like an outsider.

I guess part of letting Jesus' light shine through us is to create more beauty. This inspires me!

Answer: yes.

Praise the Holy name of God ..amen

And God is good!

Mr. Knowles and Klavan, I am not a religious man. I grew up a Christian, and through experience, and other people, my views have changed. I am borderline agnostic/atheist. Does that make me a bad republican?

I expected psychobabble here. But, to be honest, Klavan actually said something Intresting.

Oh hey I wrote a book on this.

You mention Cooldridge and woodsworth, what are the other four poets? You mentioned 6 Romantic poets.

“It is amazing how complete is the delusion that beauty is goodness.” Leo Tolstoy

in new york

Yeah

Everything WOKE turns to shit So yes

How about highlighting The Peoples Convoy.

A couple of years ago a guy asked my Is There Really such a thing as Truth? I picked up a baseball bat and told him "Here's The Truth. This Is Going To Hurt A Lot." :-) Or as Frank Turek says "Is It Really True There is No Truth?"

With these two in it, the answer is apparently yes.

coming from Klavan who laughed at the dead sailors from the USS Liberty

❤️♾️🙏♾️❤️

How fortunate that Andrew could read the Bible without any assistance from any authority. That would make him an authority. Hoorah!

@5:32 I'm a bit surprised that Knowles didn't call Klavan out on his assessment of the English Romantics as the "six greatest poets who ever lived." Has Klavan never heard of Dante Alighieri? The entire output of the English Romantics doesn't measure up to a single canto of the Commedia. I would say Klavan has once more fallen prey to his habitual Anglophilia, but, to be candid, I wouldn't call the Romantics even the top six English poets. Leaving aside Shakespeare (who ranks with the great Classical poets and with Dante as the world's, or at least the West's, finest), I should say the Beowulf poet, Chaucer, Spenser, Milton, and Pope easily best the Romantics, with Dryden and Tennyson, and possibly Langland and the Gawain poet, being at least as good. (I pass over Americans, Irishmen, Scots, Welshmen, etc., writing in English.)

I have always wondered how atheists explain the sense of beauty. Beauty in humans can be explained by the presumed evolutionary imperative to pick a healthy, fertile mate to produce healthy offspring, but what about nonhuman or even inanimate beauty? Why are birds, animals, and insects beautiful (some of them)? Why are lightning, mountains, trees, rocks, and ocean waves beautiful?

The left is ur answer. Y E S !

"I'm not going to listen to St. Paul?!" Why would someone say that when Christ's own promise is that all Scripture is His Word? There are parts of this book that sound very interesting but from this interview there seems to be the smell of the problem of "red letterism." I had to cringe when Klavan said, "It's all about you." No sir, it's all about Christ.

21:36 - "they (quotes) actually come from somewhere - people made them up" Hmmmmm.... To paraphrase even more from The Princess Bride, I do not think that statement says what you think it says. :-)

Truth is beauty #asGODcreated Wtvr falls short is perverted or due to a perversion/twisting/compromise of something else

So, you’re saying “Beauty is in the eye of the beholder” is wrong?

Matthew 13:11 New King James Version He answered and said to them, “Because it has been given to you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been given.

Q: What do you call an author who writes a Blank Book? A: An author.

“There is nothing new under the sun” human nature and history are circular and repeating. Just read Chronicles and Kings of the Old Testament. The Israelites constantly cycled. And we still cycle.

Andrew Kraven reminds me of a bird

Ywank will not let me edit so BJ and BJ -do you like BJ?

Michael ......if you keep reading books,you're stealing time from us.... To enjoy you,I mean... Please,keep reading to a minimum,for instants only on the toilet!! The more time you have to informe us..... I ,myself,never read a book.... Busy watching you 🤗

Yeah, I remember the 60's. The "Age of Aquarius"? It was the age of bullshit. The only good thing that came out of the 60's was the space program.

Please stop the apology tour. I read philososhy with fear because I knew I would change my views.

Klaven likes Knowles; he doesnt like Benjie and the Wking-Jeremy (perhaps not a God name). In spite of that Klay man is pro gaming- a complete waste of time so I doubt his views on culture. Good food for thought. Blake anyone?

Can't take klavan seriously in terms of theology when he believes gay marriage isnt a sin

Yes even the cars they drive have gone WOKE and became UGLY

What is beauty? Men obsessed with the data display of women, lured upon to take them in heat, to prolong the inevitable decline a facade against hope this tranquil sleep, Aye, the Sirens song. What is beauty? Eye to Aye of the beholder... The animalistic nature of mans wit to man is a deception upon man itself, a degradation to what truth is, in simple a travesty of truth. What is the indelible nature of beauty? Not the fleeting mortal strands cast asunder to beseech'd a frown... upon where to each wears their own crown? Aye, this is not the eye of the beholder to that which is indelible. Beauty.. at the point of interval in the animal perspective of which is a self centered means, so the outside realm, of purity what is it; kindness is to exist with or without our animal spirit... love to exist with or without humanity. These things within this galaxy are but stared rubies glistening their insatiability of existence!~ Truly then these things are indelible as is to wicked and cruel, things they exist within the state in which imbalance perpetuates! So is then not the things indelible beautiful the permanence of these things exist without any of us! Without even life or the universe they too still exist! So, then even without a stage to perform the means of the indelible still too exist! Morals... a mans obstacle to a fruitless pursuit, a place where the ignorant dwell because they know not of anything but before their eyes. The loathing self gratifying stupor of the most gruesome thing... simply a program existing to not know itself, therefor nothing of it is true, simply the veneer and wash.. a plain thing seen through... Now in hindsight we are drawn unto these things for the benefit thereof us, so we then should gather and make these things upon life and then continue that pursuit of the indelible the true beauty of all existence before existence! Beauty is not so much as to the beholder, aye, its of the things in which are the strings of immortal structures of existence. To be ... or not to be. such elegance to perform upon our stage; the significance of our ignorance! Have mercy on us old fools... have mercy on us; young, young indeed.

if you believe the depravity of some cliche like shelley was the result of his atheism - AS OPPOSED TO THE OTHER WAY AROUND - you're naive and a fool

Michael "Race is only skin deep" Knowles is here to tell us about traditionalism, okay...

How crazy to 'find Jesus through literature'... Jesus has less to do w/ literature than anyone...