Has TikTok Ruined Fashion?
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Күн бұрынTikTok's impact on modern fashion is obvious, but is that impact ruining fashion? In this video, I take a look at the good, the bad, and everything in between as it relates to the Fashion TikTok Community. Comment down below whether you think TikTok is ruining fashion, I would love to know your opinion on the subject matter.
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Chapters:
0:00 Intro
1:02 Why We Hate TikTok
2:26 Reason 1 - Fast Fashion
4:33 Reason 2 - The advice on the app sucks
5:29 Rep Sneakers/Lack of Creativity
7:11 Its all about CLOUT
8:57 The Challenge of 15 Seconds
10:04 Overconsumption
11:31 Leave a Comment
12:04 Why TikTok is Great
13:23 Vans Example/Elaborating
15:47 The Nuance of the Question
16:30 Looking at the Past to Understand the Present
17:25 Fashion Must Evolve
18:17 Corset Example
19:04 Tiktok's Greatest Value
20:09 My Fav Fashion TikTokers
22:44 The BEST Youth Culture App
24:15 The Answer
25:57 TikTok and Negativity
27:30 What do you think?
28:01 Why My Opinion Slightly Changed
29:04 Good Vibes Only
30:01 Post Vid Vid
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#tiktok #fashiontiktok #discussion
@Nefalibata0 2 жыл бұрын
A negative for TikTok is that it doesn’t always promote genuine creators. I don’t like to put so much emphasis on originality, but everyone should at least try to put their own spice on the content they create. A positive is that great content creators like Drew get to expand their platform and I find that amazing. Great video ! 👊🔥👊🔥
@DrewJoiner 2 жыл бұрын
Javier, I need to meet you one day my friend ✊🏾❤️🤝
@Nefalibata0 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-fw1rl1ph1q uhhh? Lol
@commedicgarcon 2 жыл бұрын
the shein hauls, the extremely mid fits, the lack of any fashion knowledge whatsoever - tiktok definitely didnt ruin fashion but atleast diluted the meaning of fashion. But it definitely has its positives, it can educate the masses about fashion due to its shorts videos catering to the masses's short attention span. In short its a double edged sword. Thanks for giving singapore a shout out. From across the world, great video, keep up the work🙏🏻
@liltylenoll6955 2 жыл бұрын
none of this is because of TikTok tho. Mid fits and shein hauls would just exist on KZfaq and Instagram. Fashion has been diluted for a while I don’t see how it’s all of a sudden tiktoks fault
@commedicgarcon 2 жыл бұрын
@@liltylenoll6955 i never said the mid fits and shein hauls were because of tiktok they were just amplified alot on the platform, and since the tiktok has such a big reach it has a large influence on the younger generation. Which results in them conforming to trends as such. I agree that fashion has been diluted but the introduction of tiktok in my opinion has made it even more diluted.
@bdh711 2 жыл бұрын
Shein needs to be scrapped fr, it’s literally cheap, toxic (literally toxic) pieces of cloth
@commedicgarcon 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnllo7198 Im not trying to impress anyone lol i fkin hate shein and there are some wack fashion tiktoks out there😂
@ts-wo6pp 2 жыл бұрын
whys it always mfs from singapore who act like picking outfits and shopping is some sacred craft
@aldojuarez5292 2 жыл бұрын
I personally think people def hop on fashion 'trends' to be part of it, but it also helps others, such as myself, find their true taste in fashion, which is good because they are able to experiment more on their wardrobe
@DrewJoiner 2 жыл бұрын
Spot on
@undercoverelf6_760 2 жыл бұрын
I think what’s frustrating about Tik tok, (at least for me) is how sometimes genuinely good fashion just turns into a cringy trend. For instance, I think you touched on this in ur video when you mentioned supreme. If you wear supreme now, generally you’re gonna come off as a hype beast, even if you never intended to be one at all. Again, supreme didn’t change, but like you said the PERCEPTION that people have about supreme has changed and so now you have to take that into account. I’ve probably explained that very poorly but oh well 🥲
@doofy3111 2 жыл бұрын
This, I still wear some subtle supreme pieces but stuff like my camp caps get dusty because of the big box logo
@allen14n 2 жыл бұрын
The "copycat nature of the app" can be found anywhere. It just seems a lot more prevalent on TikTok because we're being fed similar videos all the time due to the algorithm. It's up to the creators to add their own spin to TikTok trends, but again, people are always getting influenced by each other no matter where or what it is. You (Drew), Ray Miah, and Kyron (gotsweige) tend to have really similar taste in style, and all three of you got that somewhere. Even KZfaqrs use each other's ideas for videos. It just seems amped up on TikTok.
@DrewJoiner 2 жыл бұрын
True - very very true. You know what it is I can watch 50 tiktoks and 25 of them can have the exact same feel but KZfaq videos are viewed at a much much slower pace
@gabrieldominguez4891 2 жыл бұрын
I'd say the internet ruined trends, but not fashion as a whole.
@aawich 2 жыл бұрын
For me I think it’s kind of strange that you have people who can put an outfit together, but have NO idea about the textiles or fabrics on their skin. Fast fashion has ruined that in my opinion, Shein, Zara, etc ultra hauls are just too much.
@DrewJoiner 2 жыл бұрын
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@jannaangle9233 2 жыл бұрын
Went to magic mountain last weekend, I saw AT LEAST and I’m not exaggerating 100 kids wearing identical outfits. The same things kids from tiktok used to call ugly are now their favorite thing to wear, and it’s because whatever is trending, they latch onto.
@air3832 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. No question yes. I hate this new fashion trend that was overhyped and normalized by tiktok. My personal style and “drip” gets slandered by tiktok fashion people who think that their fashion style is above others just bc its different.
@tsu08761e 2 жыл бұрын
this comment makes no sense
@Tycho 2 жыл бұрын
so what you say is you is insecure about a random person saying stupid shi on what you like to wear?
@evefuckedyourmomma5556 Жыл бұрын
this comment is ridiculous 💀
@nessmarie6044 Жыл бұрын
ur take lacks nuance
@iAnon666 Жыл бұрын
It can’t ruin things if you don’t pay attention to it, you got this
@jollyian1098 2 жыл бұрын
I've realized that tiktok has primarily affected my life negatively. Whenever I'm bored I go on the app and despite feeling as if only 10 minutes passed by I've already wasted an hour. I think I'm gonna stop using the app for now, but the creative process seems interesting as I've seen a lot of self-improvement videos on the app.
@Dc_Macho 2 жыл бұрын
Here’s my thought about TikTok, I’m gonna look at the positive side of it. TikTok is not ruining fashion it’s helping younger people get introduce to fashion itself. Granted most of fashion on TikTok is streetwear but that’s where most people start. U see these videos of people dressing a certain way and that’s how people gravitate towards fashion and just feeling comfortable and confident about themselves, after that it’s up to the person if they wanna expand. Also a lot of fashion TikTokers starts there
@DrewJoiner 2 жыл бұрын
Bingo
@rangerdanger7289 2 жыл бұрын
Hot take: I don't understand hating on someone for buying reps or retail.
@Jorge-lm4bg 2 жыл бұрын
I get rep sneakers because I’m not paying retail for a shoe that essentially cost 15 dollars to make.
@trafficconesupmytightass7695 2 жыл бұрын
I got a pair of rep Travis Scott dunks and have been wearing them everywhere, they are basically the real things but $2000 cheaper
@KodiakWG 2 жыл бұрын
Buy what you like 👍
@isaacj6551 2 жыл бұрын
Agree! I've been buying reps since about 2016. When I was in college I would constantly get compliments but after fear if getting robbed bc of a certain incident I stopped bringing my reps of $500+ reps to school lmao
@fall3nkid323 2 жыл бұрын
Reps r hella lame artists designers ain’t working for free they have a family too if you can’t afford the thing just pass that’s that simple
@colspaimmaca 2 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate your nuanced perspectives. I don't have tiktok on my phone anymore but when I did I used it to just expose myself to new forms and ideas. Fashion is a really interesting art in that it's so socially driven. Ultimately, I just try to wear things that I like, that make me feel good, and that are made and acquired as responsibly as possible.
@Woohoochan 2 жыл бұрын
I love these videos man. The term "ruined" in this sense seems way too absolute. Does Tiktok have negatives? sure. Does social media in general have its negatives? Absolutely. But ruined it? no. I think TikToks focus on the younger generation makes it seem worse than it actually is. I also remember all of us wearing fast fashion at one point or another and it takes time to grow out of that and figure out your own style. We just have to let them grow like we did and be okay with others on a different path than our own. What's worse than fast fashion? Fashion purists. I also was supposed to be doing work but saw this video so you know I had to watch the whole thing.
@DrewJoiner 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with this 100%
@tsu08761e 2 жыл бұрын
i love your reasonable approach and how you explained everything glad i found your channel
@DrewJoiner 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you man! Glad you commented 💫
@soogaroosh__ 2 жыл бұрын
Your takes on fashion and style consistently make me reflect on my relationship with it as well. Loved this video; kudos to you brother! You always bring value into the conversation.
@DrewJoiner 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you man! Such a sincere comment. 💫
@homework4206 2 жыл бұрын
Just found your channel and I really enjoy the manner in which you approached this topic, safe to say I’m gonna be an active viewer
@zhisu2665 Жыл бұрын
Love-Hate fashion tiktok; So many historic fashion creators, vintage fashion, people showing off their fits But yeah the shein hauls, basic fits being promoted as iconic like babes its jeans and a tshirt chill, etc
@a.crizloe635 2 жыл бұрын
Always love your videos, you put them together really well!
@z4kri405 2 жыл бұрын
To me, Tiktok has created a generation of artificial and disingenuous clones that dress in what’s on trend rather than what they love. Perhaps I have a chip on my shoulder after getting mocked for wearing “boot cuts” to uni 😭🤣
@FIFAXE15 2 жыл бұрын
Loved the video bro. It's not talked about enough how bad fast fashion is for our planet and how it also creates this awful overconsumption mentality when it comes to buying clothes.
@DrewJoiner 2 жыл бұрын
It’s so important
@younglord00 2 жыл бұрын
you should make a vid about work boots. curious to hear what u think about the impact groundcover & that sort of sphere of fashion have had now that we're a few yrs in
@IMDMeta 2 жыл бұрын
What i like in tiktok is that what you like is what appears more to you. I was looking on dope color combos and that keeps appearing. If I jump that type of videos "how to use socks" they are gone for me
@davejo12 2 жыл бұрын
I hate Tik Tok, no matter how good content there are, because good mood will always be cancelled down by cringy clout chasers
@carl-axelstalhane9927 Жыл бұрын
Your outlook on fashion is so good thank god for this channel
@arkian3423 2 жыл бұрын
great video drew glad to hear your take on this topic
@treyanderson325 2 жыл бұрын
I do see how social media has affected fashion as far as trends go and promoting insecurities. But at the same time it has been a way for people outside of the main fashion hub cities to become familiar with new designers/brands. If it wasn't for instagram I would've never seen those Raf Simons velcro shoes back in the day and maybe would've never known who he was. I also find it Interesting how instead of 1 trendy look that MOST people subscribe to everyone kinda finds their own aesthetic. (I.e. workwear, avant garde, cozy, etc.) The negative effect of that is it seems like it creates cliques. Like why can't workwear heads and Rick Owens heads hang out more? Lol. But the thing i hate the most about it all is how hard it is to get "hyped" pieces and especially sneakers. The community aspect of it is awesome but the people who try to be gatekeepers are annoying. But its interesting to see that the art of fashion and styling is now engrained in the culture so its more important than it ever was.
@just_dropin_heat Жыл бұрын
Cheap internet availability ruined everything in some sort.
@user-ko1fp1vf7h 2 жыл бұрын
Really love your video and the way you present, your tone and voice and the choice of music and videos to showcase is really good. however i got bored and had to skip multiple times because it felt like you were repeating yourself a lot or over explaining an obvious point. overall loved the video.
@DrewJoiner 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the feedback I appreciate it
@sebbi58 2 жыл бұрын
Your content is unbelievably thorough and quality. If you keep it up, I can see this channel at a million subs and at the forefront of fashion youtube. I would like to see a sneaker related discussion about Virgil, Travis, and Kanye’s effect on sneaker culture.
@DrewJoiner 2 жыл бұрын
This, this is why I love making KZfaq videos thank you man I just wrote down the idea
@SJ-qz8zg 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid as always Drew, I could watch a video from you daily
@Dylan-lg8qo 2 жыл бұрын
How and/or where do you find inspiration for fashion through social media? Obviously since fast fashion isn’t sustainable for the environment, where is it that you find the most quality and reliable pieces for your fits?
@DrewJoiner 2 жыл бұрын
There’s an old saying ‘seek and you will find’ I just follow really dope people who never literally never talk about fast fashion it’s always vintage or curated multi retail stores or small brands
@treyanderson325 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe do a piece on how many people are starting brands and if that might cause sustainability issues. More people are buying second hand and vintage but at the same time there are 500 brands popping up every day and not all are gonna sell, let's be honest. But there are some small labels that are 🔥
@Antiidfn 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, really deep and insightful. Really liked how you took the time to add timestamps
@DrewJoiner 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!! I tried to flush out my ideas best I could
@user-uw9ex6lc1t 2 жыл бұрын
I’m rather new to consuming tiktok but I have always associated tiktok fashion with shein for some reason 🧐 also I’m so glad I found your channel!
@BlondedPlant Ай бұрын
revisiting this video, and the points still stand, kinda crazy to think about
@DrewJoiner Жыл бұрын
I made this video over a year ago and I just rewatched it.. 😂 "let me ask you a few questions" 😂 I need to make a new video...
@whatismason 2 жыл бұрын
Really enjoy your videos man, keep it up.
@DrewJoiner 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you man 💫
@vwokhardt_ 2 жыл бұрын
Something interesting I've been seeing is the rise of FFA jackets. I feel its kinda weird seeing as I go to an agricultural school and the FFA is a big part of it. I'm unsure of how to feel about it lmao.
@DrewJoiner 2 жыл бұрын
FFA has been on the rise, I saw it even a bit more last fall but I wonder how big it’ll get again this fall
@thesharinganknight9859 2 жыл бұрын
Why did I think you meant Free for All like some Call of Duty😂
@DrewJoiner 2 жыл бұрын
@@thesharinganknight9859 😂😂
@NicholasRoethel 2 жыл бұрын
Really great video man, glad you looked at both sides. Personally I hated on TikTok pretty hard, but I've come around to see it's value as a platform and have been enjoying it recently
@DrewJoiner 2 жыл бұрын
Keep posting man!! I see you and your posts I think you have so much value to bring
@NicholasRoethel 2 жыл бұрын
@@DrewJoiner Thanks man really appreciate that! Still tryna learn tiktok since its so different than youTube and IG
@nickkarac6166 2 жыл бұрын
Not about any of this im just sick of the trucker hat with flannel, retro print tee, cargos jordan 1 look
@wingstoppapitv3264 2 жыл бұрын
Im not on Tok Tok but really enjoyed learning abt how its impacting fashion good and bad but my real question is when are the EJ hoodies dropping?
@Simon-ud7nv 2 жыл бұрын
really well done video, i like how you talk about both sides and compare the different facts and opinions
@DrewJoiner 2 жыл бұрын
🤝💫
@albertosanchez6176 2 жыл бұрын
always with quality content drew!!
@josephorossi 2 жыл бұрын
Good video Drew. I do think that true creatives can get big on TikTok, but not like KZfaq does. KZfaq usually does promote originality and creativity. TikTok can be creative, but for me, its not worth finding a needle in the haystack. The haystack is all the BS thats on the app and the needle is the actual creative stuff. I dont know. I dont use the app a lot, but it just seems like there is a lot of totally useless content on TikTok that really serves no purpose except to show off your body or outfit or whatever. idk. the app is not for me personally.
@YapCorner 18 күн бұрын
I really enjoyed this content! I liked how you weighed up the pros and cons of TikTok. I miss the simple life. Since 2019, I feel that the digital world has expanded to the point of taking over our actual lives. Whether that be attention-wise or technology wise. Whilst, there are a few positives, I believe there are way too many negatives. I’m 24, and I cannot keep up with it at all! It is exciting creating my own content but I do get trapped in these loop holes!
@benhair1418 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with the negatives because it definitely promotes everyone to sort of wear the same things, but then again the way that it is opening so many peoples minds to fashion is great I think. I really like that it is starting more people,( including my friends) to like fashion. Even though they start wearing all the basic race car tees with cargos and dunks, they eventually will branch out and want to experiment and thats where I feel like I am Rn!
@DrewJoiner 2 жыл бұрын
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@marcogiangregorio_ 2 жыл бұрын
Assuming as true that TikTok has ruined fashion means underrating our thinking capacity. We receive pulses everywhere, this does not imply that we embrace all of them. Being excessively influenced by Tiktok is lack of personality and that’s something that should make us reflect. Tiktok shows, do not force. We are able to chose what follow or not. As a matter of proof, google represents a priceless and fast opportunity in order to improve our knowledge, but it does not limit our education.
@DrewJoiner 2 жыл бұрын
Very well said
@nilseriksson8016 2 жыл бұрын
In my opinion Tik tok doesn’t ruin fashion, rather different styles. For example vintage clothing. When you think about vintage clothing do you think about flare jeans, disco-, Levi 501. Or do you think about these newly printed college sweaters that are colored in a “vintage way”. Because we see so much of the same clothes in the same category, our creativity with creating new fits narrow down. (I don’t if this made any sense, but those who understand understand :))
@jakewooldridge6790 2 жыл бұрын
Urban outfitters you can sometimes find some decent pieces for a fast fashion brand
@jacklivingstone3718 2 жыл бұрын
it’s not a brand but i see what ur saying. it’s just a retail store that carries other brands and has their own in house brand as well
@nailamuhammad1213 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think tiktok has "ruined" anything, but I think the hype behind certain things (like thrifting) has impacted accessibility for others & maybe that's where collectors/ppl that have been into these niches for a while get upset
@limitlesskobe8994 2 жыл бұрын
Yea I feel em I'm one of those that just started thrifting, but in my defense they always have new cheap styles I could try for myself. I just gained the confidence to go out a do things alone as an adult so it's a big step for me personally, it's freedom.
@Ransompie1 2 жыл бұрын
Your videos always make my day, thanks drew
@DrewJoiner 2 жыл бұрын
😁💫 your comments always make mine
@j-lon3564 2 жыл бұрын
Like any other platform, TikTok has its good content creators and its bad content creators, it’s up to you to filter what’s good and what’s bad and develop your own sense of fashion
@allen14n 2 жыл бұрын
Good video. Personally, I think a lot of people hate on TikTok just because they're annoyed by seeing younger people do trendy things. These anti-TikTok people probably are influenced by other trends, too; they just don't notice it. It's really a social media thing. For instance, this wave of wearing looser pants, flare pants, and workwear jackets began due to social media. We dig it, right? Well, it's a trend, and we're not so different from the TikTok creators. We just showcase it differently.
@DrewJoiner 2 жыл бұрын
This is maturity and self awareness in spades my friend bravo
@SweggityEgg 2 жыл бұрын
Im trying to get into fashion and revamp/start my wardrobe, but I want to avoid these lower quality fast fashion type brands. I don't really know where else to go though (like where a tshirt doesnt cost 100$). For reference i'm really into like Daniel Simmons and Tim Dessaint type fashion. Any advice where to shop, mostly just trying to get the essentials that I can wear in tons of different fits, and I live in SoCal so its generally pretty warm.
@DrewJoiner 2 жыл бұрын
So in socal you more than likely have some fantastic retail stores that curate quality clothing for cheaper. A lot of people would recommend Uniqlo bc of the quality of the clothing for a price but i dont know if Uniqlo is also fast fashion. For simple tees one of my favorite small brands is called Adapture they are worth checking out. I dont know if you would ever try buying second hand maybe even at a curated second hand shop to find nice pieces for less, I understand if that might not be your style
@SweggityEgg 2 жыл бұрын
@@DrewJoiner Thanks a lot man, Ill be sure to check out Adapture :)
@Damienp3902 Жыл бұрын
It’s not that hard just don’t shop in fast fashion brands.
@mushy6296 2 жыл бұрын
Golden content dosent swear every two seconds to look cool, (don’t care about swearing just annoying when people over do it to look cool), he is real and dissent fake anything, love this content
@DrewJoiner 2 жыл бұрын
Man thank you ✊🏾
@mushy6296 2 жыл бұрын
@@DrewJoiner ye
@josh_hammer03 2 жыл бұрын
In the video, you showed videos of the new balance 550 green trend. I actually really like how those shoes look, I found them randomly, and fuck with them. With the tik tok trend, however, it feels in-genuine now if I buy them, because it looks like I'm "going with the trend" which sucks because I'm not. I'm still going to buy them for me, but now my originality is taken because of tik tok
@DrewJoiner 2 жыл бұрын
I feel you, but who cares what others think get them jawns if you love them
@philiyt882 2 жыл бұрын
Keep up the great work and stay this nice and humble forever🙏
@nalabear97 Жыл бұрын
I think it overexposes you to a lot of trends that are really just a wave of people hopping on the same bandwagon. But I also think that because of this overexposure it allows more people to find their sense of fashion from picking up small bits of things in different areas.
@archie2000 2 жыл бұрын
wow, what a great video, so chilled, good job
@ilyuhhh 2 жыл бұрын
you worded everything so perfectly in this bro
@DrewJoiner 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you man💫
@tommasocappelli7695 2 жыл бұрын
This is totally off-topic from this one… but I love your videos, I swear they’re so relaxing and even if English isn’t my native language, you use a kind of unusual vocabulary I can still understand because of how well you can explain the context around it. I hope I can learn to speak in Italian as fluently and confidently as you speak English in your videos. Have a nice day man, content is amazing, hope you can keep it up 🤝
@DrewJoiner 2 жыл бұрын
You are too kind! What is your native language ?
@tommasocappelli7695 2 жыл бұрын
@@DrewJoiner Italian! But I'm slowly trying to get my english as close as it could to the max level cambridge offers for foreign speakers
@andrewtraylor314 Жыл бұрын
A year later and here is my report. The AF1 got beat into the ground, then the panda dunk, then the 550, now the samba is being stomped into the ground American history x style. Band tees are over, gorp came and went, the double knees are being tossed, they want the 8 ball fleece now. They said they are done with the bostons and the beatnik now it’s Tasman time. The Balenciaga days are dead, Gucci got used up, it’s Prada now.
@DrewJoiner Жыл бұрын
Great report
@andrewtraylor314 Жыл бұрын
@@DrewJoiner a man of the people❤️
@bongocatbtw878 2 жыл бұрын
Yh my dad thought it was weird w arcteryx, bc they made like good climbing equipment before and my dad just thought it was weird ppl started to like it more and more just for fashion 😅
@jaydenvisnaw 2 жыл бұрын
I mean without tiktok I would never have found you, so I would say its pretty good. Lots of love over here in Utah keep up the good work.
@DrewJoiner 2 жыл бұрын
Love right back to you from the 303💫
@TheFirstBeeTee 2 жыл бұрын
what's that one brand (of your faves) that you keep mentioning in the vid? something like "oray" ...? Can't seem to find it on google cuz I don't know how to spell it but I'd like to check it out!
@DrewJoiner 2 жыл бұрын
Oree NYC !
@TheFirstBeeTee 2 жыл бұрын
@@DrewJoiner alright thanks man!
@XcellentShots 2 жыл бұрын
Damn near everybody dresses the same now & its boring lol. A good amount of creators only push: Jordan 1s & 4s, Dunks, SBs, NB (990s, 992s, 550s), & Bootlegs of 1s (not reps lol). I get that they're "trendy" but some folks are scared to like things outside of those I listed.
@doofy3111 2 жыл бұрын
They want them views that’s why
@markoh2999 2 жыл бұрын
It gets to the point where you see all these teens wearing the same outfit on tiktok and it doesn’t feel like an outfit anymore, it feels more like a uniform.
@jeremielacerte7257 2 жыл бұрын
I would definitely see you doing something with frugral aesthetic
@TwoyBwoy 2 жыл бұрын
I just don’t want to get addicted to tik tok so I’m not even going to download it lol
@DrewJoiner 2 жыл бұрын
Smart decision
@thecelestialknights 2 жыл бұрын
Oh and the only fast fashion, that i actually think is worth it is def uniqlo
@methuchen9654 2 жыл бұрын
what stores would you recommend to buy from?
@DrewJoiner 2 жыл бұрын
Depends on what you like
@Jtrp 2 жыл бұрын
Great delivery
@DrewJoiner 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you✊🏾
@luciomassidda6594 2 жыл бұрын
so far this is the best channel i found in 2021
@DrewJoiner 2 жыл бұрын
❤️💫
@philiyt882 2 жыл бұрын
Am I the only guy who loves that he replies or looks at alllll the comments unlike other you tubers
@DrewJoiner 2 жыл бұрын
🤝💫 I never understood some KZfaqrs who never respond lol especially when I’m not getting like 1000 comments, thank you for all your kind words
@KodiakWG 2 жыл бұрын
Agree fast fashion is the worst
@leisureprotocol610 2 жыл бұрын
Crazy, I live in the Springs! How do you feel about the fashion culture in denver? I dont mean to be that guy but the scene feels non existent
@DrewJoiner 2 жыл бұрын
haha it is pretty small with only a few people who care about it but is on the come up
@S7eezyy 2 жыл бұрын
Can't believe I watched this whole thing and it felt like I was just talkin with one of my boys. Love these style videos Drew!
@DrewJoiner 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Adam ✊🏾 you’re a homie to me 💫
@S7eezyy 2 жыл бұрын
Also to answer the question I enjoy how much social media has branched out my own style and evolved my closet into having much more diversity and looks. Some days I wana dress like an anime villain in all Rick and Vetements but other days I wana be a grandpa with pair of derbys cropped pants and sweater vest/cardigan. Sure, it’s annoying to see everyone wear dunks with cargo pants but it’s easy to see who actually has style and who just copy’s what is trendy. Granted sometimes it’s fun to wear something trendy to find a new look for yourself. Without the internet I would probably just wear vans and skinny jeans like I had been wearing since 2005. (I’m 28)
@DrewJoiner 2 жыл бұрын
@@S7eezyy great great point honestly we demonize trends but I should make a video about why they are important
@S7eezyy 2 жыл бұрын
@@DrewJoiner It brings up more questions like, if the internet and social media didn’t excist do you think you would have pulled the trigger on the Rick Owens Doc’s?
@S7eezyy 2 жыл бұрын
@@DrewJoiner it’s quite an interesting and open ended discussion, love talking about this type of thing!
@jakeryan1033 2 жыл бұрын
Where the zip up hoodie from???
@DrewJoiner 2 жыл бұрын
Edward Joiner but it actually isn’t a zip up it’s the cord from my mic 😂
@verlegenemandarine 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, but not only Tiktok but especially the Internet
@domingoscussinja7176 Жыл бұрын
True talk, that´s why I don´t even have Tik Tok, wasting time with futile things...
@utube2902 2 жыл бұрын
I don't use tiktok anymore, nor do I use FB or Instagram anymore... I've had it and not that I look up to everyone like the youth often do.. I often think it's people's second life and don't always believe that everything is real or that the truth is being told but my daughter is 15 i'm 35... she often show me things on tiktok about fashion and also about online clothes like shein zara etc but I think it's nice that such online stores are there, especially for the youth they are already being driven crazy by all brands on social media and now they can also buy this or something similar but very good buy. i always try to tell my daughter that she has to decide the fashion for herself if you are different from others don't join the hype and believe me 20 jqar ago i already thought so.. only then was only the street scene the inspiration so things have changed
@DrewJoiner 2 жыл бұрын
Really strong perspective here
@MrSodaBelly 2 жыл бұрын
Not even a fan of the topic but the way you talk calms me. No homo. Subscribing.
@thecelestialknights 2 жыл бұрын
While i do agree that tik tok has made a negative impact on fashion, i do think it helps in a sense that it can be a gateway to get into fashion. The only problem is that people dont make it their own, and just copy paste
@DrewJoiner 2 жыл бұрын
Bingo
@thomasenglish1172 2 жыл бұрын
Got that busboy fit on
@sauceboss3808 2 жыл бұрын
The fashion on tik tok is so shallow. All it is, is cheap basic fast trends and really doesn’t show a lot of real fashion. Just a lot of guys and girls dressing the same. Whereas the fashion community on KZfaq is much more in depth with different styles of clothing and more niche aesthetics (ex street wear, tech wear etc. ) tik tok really only shows current surface level trends rather than more unique styles found on KZfaq.
@nickkfish 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like the people who don’t like TikTok it’s due to gatekeeping and trying to keep the niche ness/genuineness to the fashion community. Personally fashion TikTok can be really corny but also really good. The part that I enjoy is how vintage has been brought to the spotlight. It’s affordable and benefits the planet. But like you said it’s easy to identify who is clout chasing and who really doing it from the heart. There is a lot of miseducation and being a design major it’s upsetting bc of mainstream/fast fashion there has been a loss of purpose in design and mainly seems like things are cash grabs and who can land the biggest Collabs (ex: Jordan 1s in 2021). A lot of things are very surface level. It seems fashion is in need of a refreshing perspective that maybe these smaller people (Ray, Gizmo, Ken, even you) are bringing to the table. Idk just my take. Been debating about starting fashion TikTok or KZfaq and maybe this video will push me to do it or stray me away from it. The world may never know.
@DrewJoiner 2 жыл бұрын
This‼️‼️ great points Nick
@minhphunguyen8848 2 жыл бұрын
ok,now you are my favourite fashion channel
@DrewJoiner 2 жыл бұрын
✨‼️
@zorawarsingh829 2 жыл бұрын
Another thing is that very less creator on til tok will tell others about what fashion really is . They also most of the time will only do trend jacking so they are more behind likes and views and would wear something just for like that defeat the whole purpose of what fashion really is thats self expression.
@DrewJoiner 2 жыл бұрын
This‼️‼️
@Finn_for_real Жыл бұрын
I think that while tiktok does have some cons when it comes to the fashion scene, primarily by promoting fast fashion more than other platforms. However, tiktok is just another platform where people can post their own takes on fashion and design. Tiktok just acts as another place for people to learn about fashion. If we hate what tiktok has done to fashion, do we also hate what instagram has done? The same creators are posting the same things on both platforms. In my opinion, the platform itself doesn’t ruin fashion, but rather the creators on it who push a specific right vs wrong way to dress and minimize self expression by hating on certain ways people dress.
@Hhawkdawg 2 жыл бұрын
urban outfitters is definitely fast fashion just to add to the list
@donnxio 2 жыл бұрын
number 1 reason i hate tiktok is because it isn’t organic. You see every mf on there wearing Jordan 1s so the shoe rockets in price, and the only reason they like them is because they seen someone tiktoker wearing it. Same with underground music.. before you would have to search and search to find that one artist, only a few know about. Now you can just click an app see someone dancing to one of their songs.
@morpheuslaughing 11 ай бұрын
One thing is clear. Things clearly changed after the popularity of Tiktok came along. All I'm going to say is not everything needs to be made into content. Whatever happened to best kept secrets? Protecting things you love from vultures is not gatekeeping.
@J.0.E. 2 жыл бұрын
Instagram already ruined it.
@reipid8568 2 жыл бұрын
Bro I hate the advices on tiktok too!!! They tell me what to wear and how to wear it, like bruh there is no rule, you need to express yourself!!
@DrewJoiner 2 жыл бұрын
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@marlowfraser1989 2 жыл бұрын
Dude looks like Malcolm X with drip from the 21st century. Sick content my guy
@DrewJoiner 2 жыл бұрын
😂 I’m taking that as a compliment thank you
@user-tl8nd1lg3m 2 жыл бұрын
I don't like tik tok because in my opinion it's an app used by people who don't have motivation to to something else. I also think on this platform there are many people that do the exact same thing( not all) and there is no diversity or other interests in public. tik tok is great when you spend like 10 minutes on your phone while waiting. Good and important video 🙏🏼
@VictorDude98 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly just reps doesn't bother me. I personally don't buy them currently atleast. But when I want to buy the brown AJ1 TS, I'm am not going to pay that ridiculous amount for a resale pair. And if you don't have that much money there's really no justifiable reason to buy a pair of shoes for that much. Especially since Nike COULD 100% make enough shoes for everyone to get them, it's just manufactured scarcity and hype. Buy and wear whatever you want, just don't buy and wear stuff because others want you to.
@doofy3111 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with everything but if Nike were to make every limited shoe a gr they would be a lot more unsustainable then they already are
@raywearsclothes 2 жыл бұрын
Personally, I think it's the algorithm that ruins it, you point around 25min says it well, the app pushes you content involuntarily, and whatever gets the most engagement, in this case, controversy, gets pushed. It gives little opportunity for content with actual depth to thrive because of the time constrain and algorithm, which makes the platform get flooded with "bad content", it's an app that promotes that kind of content. I do think there is a great chance for creators tho. Creators like you, Mark still thrived whilst making insightful/entertaining content. I personally got off the platform cus they took off the ig log in portal and i lost my account :), Good riddance(Thanos voice)
@DrewJoiner 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂 Good Riddance, but seriously spot on analysis Raywearsclothes
@yungchente3548 2 жыл бұрын
the positive of tik tok is like how it's introduced a lot people to individual brands and designers as well as help them gain loyal customers, but the negative is like the consistent limitations that some creators promote with those "how to" videos. fashion is subjective and a form of expression, so one of the real consequences of those type of creators is how much they limit people who are new to fashion. if they were encouraging people like you do to experiment it'd be better but lately it's like they wanna enforce a dress code of jordans and air forces, cargo pants, flannels and vintage tees lmao
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