I’m glad Stephanie brought up the how many of the songs today are about the persons hardship opposed to focusing on the one who gives freedom. He is the well of living water.

"Come back to ONE" That is the most important jem from this entire session. Everything that we are as worshippers hangs on this one statement.

"That's not the reward. The reward is when you come home and his presence washes over you in the secret place, and you stop caring if you ever leave that place." YES.

Watching Steffany from the time she first came to our church, my heart would leap when she came onto the stage. She would dance, kneel, lay on the floor, turn her back to the audience and the one thing that was obvious was that she was worshiping Jesus, not the spot light, not the audience but Jesus. She walks in worship, lives in worship and that’s why she leads so well.

Many unknown worship leaders are parents who worship at home with their children. A mother who lays down her life to RAISE her children for Jesus....Singing sweet children songs and hymns at bedtime and teaching them God's Word.

"We can be moved by something and not changed by something. There is a markable difference. If we're staying close to the flame, if we stay close to His presence, then we can feel the difference between high energy and high praise."

As I am listening to this interview, I'm hearing the words; coming back to the first love, foundation, and simplicity. The end of the interview was truth and profound.

She speaking straight facts and conviction , these messages need get Preached more

Bethel music kept me close to God as a young Christian. It really ministered to me. I strayed from God for years but came back to God full throttle this year. I hadn't listened to worship music in years so as I was searching I remember how I was really into Bethel. I still like some of their music but I recognize a lot of the songs are just as Stephanie mentioned! Like a feeling or about themselves. The songs I once loves don't minister to my heart anymore. Growing up in Spanish Pentecostal church, I heard old worship songs as a teen I didn't care for them hence why I really liked Bethel but now as an adult and fully encapsulated in God , the old songs sung have such a beautiful, meaningful and biblical truth that truly allows you to worship the Lord God with all your heart, soul and mind ❤

Love when people preach the truth! She did it in love, but didn’t waiver!

"The fruit will always speak of the root." This young woman has such Godly wisdom.

When I hear a "not so polished" worship team that are anointed and bringing you into his presence, it is so refreshing to me. I'm not putting down anyone who strives to perfect and multiply their gift as a musician. But are we emphasizing sonic perfection over Holy Spirit and engaging our Lord and Saviour.

Married to that gifted musician you speak of, He loves the spotlight The compliments The recognition The supply Does he share his faith ? Does he read and know the Word? Is he a shepherd to his family? Does he understand repentance? Is he filled with the spirit and bearing fruit? Is he humble ? Is he a giver? NO!! It’s ALL about him. Everything must revolve around his talent and his gifting. It’s been a very difficult marriage. Wish I heard this convo 23 years ago. I didn’t have a clue. Just knew how talented and charismatic he was . But image is much more important for him. God knows and He sees! Pray for our family 🙏🕊️

Stefanie was one of the worship leaders who helped me to cultivate my love to worship. So thankful for her and all Jesus does through her.

I listened to her answer the first question. Stopped it at 2:56 and am just blown away by the Spiritual wisdom! Many pastors never get to that level of deep. I’m a pastor. So amazing.

Agree 💯you can definitely feel the shift when it goes from Him to “Me” songs.

This woman is a real worshiper. And she understands we should worship the giver of the gift. Yes yes yes yes 🔥🔥🔥

I’m not a worship leader can’t even sing haha… but this spoke so deeply to me as a Christ follower. We need to get back to the word, be in communion with our God before we even go after our “calling”. Just love him first be with him first. All else will be added. Jesus is everything

"This is about ministering to the Lord". ❤️ Ministering to the Lord... Not to the masses. I think we (myself included) so often lose sight of that.

I’ve only been a worship leader for about 2.5 years so I am constantly looking to experienced leaders who can articulate the importance and the reasons for what we do. I am forever grateful that Jesus would choose me to be an instrument for His glory 🙌🏻😭

The Lord pressed upon me to pray for Steffany the year she moved. What a wonderful blessing she is. I grieve over the “what can I get from Jesus” attitude that is all through the songs of worship. And her speaking this today just made so much sense to my spirit. Glory to God.

That’s why Stefanie has always been my favorite worship leader.

Its always been a pet peeve of mine to be apart of worship but the songs weren’t about him, but about us. Love this.

I can hear her heart, in what she speaks about worship.

So if I am interpreting Steffany's litmus test about whether or not our worship is genuine and appropriate is how something feels (the energy in the room). That is one of the main criticisms of the charismatic movement, that so much is driven by feelings. The litmus test should be whether or not something is biblically or theologically sound. Secondly the motive of the leader...is it for my own glorification or God's. Feelings come and go. Something can feel bad and be entirely appropriate, at the same time something can feel amazing and be way off. One of the biggest problems in our culture, especially for the younger generation is worldviews, philosophies, epistomology that is driven by feelings. Cancel culture is a by-product of this feelings-based approach to interpreting what is true. As believers we need to hone the skill of true discernment...dividing truth from error. This is where I agree that the focus should be studying the word.

The danger is not only for the "creatives", i.e. our poets, musicians and artists; it's also true of those who are gifted in the "Five-Fold" gifts. A truism that applies is, "His/her character could not support the anointing (gifts)." Also, I love Steffany's comment concerning some of the songs, "It's not about Him; it's about what I get from Him!"

Steffany said 'You come back to One' and that's absolutely right. It's an Audience of One we are worshipping. And when we can worship firstly in the secret place with an Audience of only One, we can then worship in front of thousands of people. When we don't need to worship in front of many people, and can be happy worshipping only in the Secret Place, then worship becomes pure and much, much more than a genre.

"If we could yield to that place (with being with the One)... We wouldn't find ourselves asking the Lord to bless what we're doing we'd find ourselves doing what He's blessing."

This is SO important. You can totally tell when a “worship Leader” has been in the secret place. It all comes back from our personal revelation and intimacy with Him. That’s when the real Worship comes out

Stephanie is a definition of the type of worshipper so many worship leader nowadays should listen from. She is only focused on ONE. Stephanie you should pls mentor people. Forever your Fan 💜🔥

"We think because we have favour we have blessing" 💯

Thank you Stef. I have had a hard time singing these songs at church that are i me-centered and not Christ-Centered and call it worship. I find myself just closing my eyes and singing to Him with my own words. Mainly just saying Thank you and that He's worthy. I really appreciate this video.... I felt really alone in this until now. Thanks for putting into words what I felt in my spirit.

This has been in my heart for a long time. Most of our songs in church are about God moving mountains, working miracles, fighting our battles etc. Seldom do I walk into a church and hear love, adoration, reverence for Jesus. Its, disheartening. But I sense that this might be changing. I think it starts with repentance, and a returning to the heart of worship (its all about Him).

She is so much so deep in the HOLY SPIRIT - thank you JESUS - for her vulnerability-sensitivity for ABBAS heart and for people 🙏🔥🩸❤️⚡️

This is very interesting. Just recently I started reflecting and yearning for songs that focus more on praising Him which leads back to older songs.

This is so powerful. I don't want to come across judgemental, but a lot of today's worship is all for awards, sales, fame, etc. Always pray, ask for guidance from the Holy Spirit.

Wow- Love her voice and songs but never heard her speak before. So true - I can tell when people are living on old anointing and talent and not the secret place. So glad she recognizes that.

Everybody on any kind of worship team should learn from this. So good! Such truth!

Thank you, thank you, thank you!! I’ve been saying for so long we need to really worship during our services and stop with the me songs. Like you said they’re not wrong, they’re just not worshipping Him. Thank you so, so much for posting this.

Worship is a genre...THE ORIGINAL GENRE!

You know what I hate… I hate that I’ve been listening to Steffany so long and feel like we’re kindred souls and I can’t text her and say thank you. Dead on target and eye opening. Thank you Steffany. Winston like that come from sacrifice, mistakes and being in the secret place. I’m grateful to the Father for you.

Love steffanys intimacy with the Father❤️

6:02 "The fruit will always speak of the root." 😭🙌🏼

Wow… the depth of this teaching is powerful…❤😢❤ Thank you

I feel His presence from my inside out as am listening to this

Yeah! Preach it! All we need is GOD!!!

Great discussion. Jesus calls us to himself first. Great perspective about the audience of ONE!

We can be “moved” but not “changed” Wow!! 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾

This is definitely something my husband and I discussed even before persuing songwriting and releasing the music God put in us. It is all about Him. And we are much older than the average new artist, and I'm sure that was intentional from the Lord. I'm not sure I would've handeled it the same when I was young, maybe, but maturity in the Lord is so very important (which can also happen at a very young age). Truth and Intimacy with Jesus. The lover of my soul; my first love. Thank you for sharing 💝

HOLY SPIRIT WILL ALIGN EVEN the songs to bring the message...AMEN thankyou

Excellent interview. Very much agree with the notion that worship songs are to or about God. NOTHING wrong with songs about our own experience but that are not worship... Wonderful to write and sing but they belong in a concert setting or even in a "special music" where it's meant to share with the congregation, etc.

Its the “Im entitled” ego and self healing. I can def tell the difference when I listen to worship music, which has been my constant go to. May we feel led to pray for those in culture, may we pray that we too remain centered in Christ. Fine tune our senses Father🙏🏽

We are clarity, peace & love.. Thriving & truth, creativity, wisdom, understanding, success, good nature, freedom, compassion, sanity & kind. We are joy! We are Pure Positivity!🌟 We are PERFECTION.💖

Total agreement in this. Yes there’s a time and a place for more “blessings” songs, but in reality we are called to minister to Him. Great video!

"You can tell when some-ones been in the secret place.." Wow Steffany this is such a profound truth.. Thanks for your honest and courageous assessment of what true worship is.. even though you were once a part of the me, me, me, worship and church movement. God bless you All as you live for Him.. as He lives through you and in you.. 🙏🏼

The lyrics from songs 10-14 years ago are vastly diff than the lyrics of current “worship songs”. 10-14 years ago worship was focused on praising God and surrender. Now the songs tend to be focused on us.

I love her she is a perfect example of a lover of Jesus and a true worshipper of Christ.

This girl has a RELATIONSHIP with JESUS….and through that her GIFT flows….can we get back to THIS place😢bless you STEFF

I definitely think there’s a season or times for focusing inwards… but we do have to get to a place where we’re more excited about ministering to the Lord! Help us Lord 🙏

Awsome 😭

Yes,yes, yes 🙌🏾 Thank you, for this interview with Steffney 🎉❤

Such a rich exchange. Thanks for this 🙏🏾

Amazing insight into this topic. Have always admired Steffany and her wisdom. PTL 🙌🏼

This is so good. Thank you!

Beautiful. 😭♥️.

Ugh this is so good and spot on 😭

This is so so good!!!! The lack of knowledge of and love for the Word has permeated our charismatic Church culture for years and not just with some worship leaders and teams. I am thankful we are becoming aware of that lack of balance in our walks. He is worthy and so is His Word. HE is our focus!!! I just love everything that is being said here and have shared this video with many people, including worship leaders who are friends of mine. Thank you so much for this message. It was shared with humility, love and honor for all.

Such a rich word, thank you for sharing ❤

This is such a great message. Thank you for sharing your wisdom and insights.

Absolutely incredible. This is the stuff I’ve been pondering for a while now and she hit the nail right on the head for what I’ve been thinking about 🔥🔥🔥 needed this video. Thank you for sharing!

Love it

Wow 🔥

So so awesome.

Love this and thank you! ❤ 🔥 🔥 🔥

wow! she just put my thoughts into words!

Thank you Steffany for the word God bless you..deep truth.. Praying to one day sing with you ❤❤❤❤❤❤

So profound❣

Thank you! This was spot on!

Speaking the truth in love... you can tell her heart hurts when she's thinking of those that she's speaking about, without even mentioning their names. Such maturity... GREAT interview!

I love her heart and desire for worship. I wish she would demarcate a little clearer than just feelings for where the line is between worship and not worship. Also if two people can sing the same song and one can usher in the Presence because he or she has been in the secret place, then how important are the words? Thanks for sharing your heart!

Will, this is so good.

Thank you for this conversation, it is so rich.😊

WOW !

This is simply correct. Thank You Stephanie

Powerful interview

There was so much Biblical wisdom in this video. Thank you for bringing worship back to what it truly should be about - Jesus.

aww God bless Stef! I was one of those people who heard bethel songs and refrained from listening because they were a bit unbiblical, but this chat reminded me that we are all works in progress. We all have sinned (and done things that we wouldn't put out today) and we all fall short of the glory of God. As a fellow artist, I recognize that my work years ago is not a reflection of where i am today, and how the Lord has refined me. Ahhh ❤

Whoosh!!! Timeless truths

Exactly. So Pure. So sincere. ❤️

❤❤❤ love all of this

Hit the nail on the head ❤️🌸🙏💯💐

Gold nuggets throughout!

Oh, Stef... my goodness, this is relatable and so so so beautiful. I feel a kindred spirit with you. Thank you for this. 💕

This was awesome

SOOOOO GOOD!🔥👀

We love you

Good points at the end!

Steffany, this is SO POWERFUL and I am so THRILLED AND BLESSED to hear you say this. 100% PURE TRUTH! Thank you!

We need more of this, with her specifically. I only turned on this video because she was the one conversing about worship. If it were anyone else, I wouldn't have even noticed this channel. Praise God for clarity❤

I love this!! 🙌🏼 God help us be good stewards of what you have given us and go back to You every time! Thank you for this, thank you Steffany! 🥹