I HECKING LOVE OBSCURE CHARACTERS GETTING NEW TOYS. I don’t want a new Optimus every year. I like my variety. Even if they are just simple redecos, I like filling out the ranks with different characters. The more obscure, the better.

A modern grandus would honestly be hilarious. Just the mere thought of that big chungus having a modern toy possibly with like actual articulation cracks me up.

I wonder if Autobot X will ever get an official figure.

Back then they weren't obscure, they were simply all-new ideas and cool or quirky toy robots. (For the few that actually got toys back then)

Hasbro/Takara made such a genius ploy; from what I've seen (mostly with Jakks Pacific stuff recently) I think other communities for toys would say that excessive redecoes/retools of old toys would be kind of lazy, but with the number of "obscure" alternate colors that exist Transformers has turned it into an art form.

If we ever get Armada Side Ways, we'd probably get his far more obscure repaint Energon Rapid Run

If you ask me, the most obscure one would be Octus, the six-armed Decepticon that turns into a Dalek.

I think IDW has a whole load of characters that would fit the bill. For example Quark, or Froid. The Necrobot too. Or if you want to get morbid, O'Nion as a headmaster for sunstreaker.

Hasbro is definitely doing the kind of obscure reprints that Fun Pub used to do. Part of it is fan service as the market becomes more collector focused. But part of it is that I think Hasbro used to deliberately avoid doing certain toys and certain characters because it was the bread and butter of the Collector's Club. You mentioned in the Ruined Forever video about the Botcon Seekers that Hasbro had insisted that they were never going to do. They were just the beginning. But the Club is gone now, and Selects is indeed filling the void. These would all have been Botcon or Subscription Service figures back then. But no more. And I'm thrilled by it. We have affordable Shattered Glass figures! How great is that?! I I have the ladies of The Search for Alpha Trion! It is indeed amazing!

"Before We Begin" may as well be the new intro at this rate; also, Hasbro buckling on the Ariel thing is a fight I would've fought on behalf of Transformers fans if I had a seat at the table (and not just for the Little Mermaid live-action demake looking like trash)

I'd consider the SS DOTM core "Laserbeak" (pink Bumblebee) an obscure figure as well, since he was only in one small scene in the entire film

I hope for the deathcobra and cobrabreast toys to be made.

More obscure the better I say. Hope they keep it up. Weirdest character I think Hasbro may never do is Botanica from Beast Machines but I do hope one day they prove me wrong.

I love how they are doing obscure figs. I'm here for it. Makes me wonder if they will do the 13 primes

I want Natron, Freezon, Autoceptor, Deceptor, Kaltor and Hawkfighter (aka the Electric Train and Battle Set) to round out the 84/85 collection. And I want HasLabs Violen Jiger. None of these things will happen because they're just too obscure! lol

Considering they still do a healthy amount of popular characters I think it's perfectly reasonable and actually smart to do hyper obscure characters. They have a base to fall back on and the people who already have a few optimuses or bumblebees have fresh and fascinating characters to look at. Plus the best way to get out of the shadows Is a spotlight. I'm watching this video holding a modern Fangry and I don't care how little play he has, it feels awesome to have this. Transformers is such a varied universe. I'm all for letting it go nuts

I'd love to see modern Triggerbots one day, especially Dogfight and Backstreet. And since we are getting modern Triggercons (Crankcase being a Skids retool, the upcoming Selects Windsweeper from the listings not long ago, that 100% will be a Needlenose retool, and possible Ruckus retool of the upcoming Beachcomber), I think that the new Triggerbots is just around the corner.

When a Drill's literally your face...that's pretty obscure! 😂

Imagine if they start making new Brave Series toys

I’d love to see reissues of transmetal Beast Wars, especially transmetal Waspinator. Such a neat toy.

Tbh, as a fan base, we love obscure characters, plus even if someone doesn't know the franchise well, a lot of obscure characters can bank on the 'rule of cool'. Also, I wish hasbro would stop using the earthrise seeker mold, it sucks

We definitely need the Omnibots...they have never received an update and they're hardly in any media

If Hasbro ever want to do another collaboration figure that’s also an obscure reference then they should do a Doctor Who collab to make a figure of Octus the Dalek Decepticon from Marvel UK.

Erial interests me (the first time the Prime Arcee mold has done so); Dion is another impressive retool of a very unimpressive mold. Would've preferred if they made Dion from Scraphook. When they start basing figures on animation errors (specifically the repaints from Five Faces of Darkness; would love that Dirge-colors Cyclonus), that's when Hasbro officially hits the bottom of the obscurity barrel. Everything else is fair game by comparison. I said this on a news video before, but it bears repeating- Hasbro is so confident in Rise of the Beasts doing well that they're banking on parents being willing to buy ANYTHING Transformers for their kids. Ergo, Evolution is getting weirder (where else would you see Lio Convoy, Tarn, Hot Shot, Animated Prowl, Crosscut, Metalhawk, and Twincast on shelves at the same time?) and Studio Series is handling both "better" (that's debatable) versions of the ROTB designs and High Moon Studios games designs so that "evergreen" guys like Optimus and Bumblebee are available for both us turbo-nerds and for kids who just want a Bee or a Prime. It's feeding us fans stuff we've wanted for years and providing gift-givers with only a vague sense of familiarity with the brand a wide variety of options to choose from.

Meanwhile Windcharger sits listening to Air Supply and quietly crying.😢

The obscure character I'm shocked they've never really done is Bumper ("Bumblejumper"). I figure it would be easy enough to do.

Considering Mark’s continued push for Machine Wars, there’s got to be a Machine Wars Starscream on the way from that Skyquake mold.

Was scrounge the Cybertron based Autobot that changed into a wheel? I recall a weird character like that in the G1 comic from about 85 or 86. Another obscure Autobot (I think it was) was possibly a gladiator called Tornado, he never seemed to have an alt mode like Emirate Xaaron & others.

I'd like to see how they'd handle guys like the six armed guy "octus" from one UK exclusive issue of the marvel comics. Solely because of the sixarms and the fact he wasn't even actuallyg iven an altmode, just had an implied one that could have been a few different things. He's also part of a three guy group that have similarly interesting designs so there's potential for it to be a 3 pack.

I think the obscure characters make perfect sense for Legacy. Legacy is an anniversary line and the obscure characters help make it feel like more of a celebration of the franchise than new versions of the typical G1 colors and characters would. And as for obscure characters, I won't rest until we get Hyperdrive. I'd kill for him to be a commander class for the Toxitron collection.

Anything is indeed possible! 🤩 PS. Emirate Xaaron was given an unsaid homage in the form of the FOC Ruination combiner head. Keep up the excellent work! 👏

I had the Powerdashers and the Omnibots! Now all Hasbro has to do is bring back S.T.A.R.S.!

personally, after seeing dorito jazz, I now absolutely demand a new Electro. hell, make it an extensive remold of Scraphook, just to be evil for the sake of being evil. the guy suffered far more than enough, he needs a breack from being the ones that breacks on a similar note, a weaponizer Autobot X, even without the updated transformation, would be a fun addition that, while not as obscure as others, still never got a full chance. Armada Sideways has gotten pretty heavy as an absence; with the animated prowl mold, a bit of rework of the chest, the wrist-cannon as 5mm port weaponry, the minicons as either modified titanmasters (and forgoing the spring gimmick in favor of a manually switchable insigna), or a new headmaster mold, and the guy is ready. hell, if it's the former I offer of drawing them the production studies myself if it would get the toy made! a special set Grandius would be fantastic. not even a full-on trnasformers, just a playset that moves the arms and faceplants would be hillarous and I'm ready to bet, it would sell out of being a exposition piece

Speaking of Hasbro doing things at retail that feel like BotCon releases... surprised you got through this entire video without mentioning Shattered Glass because that was originally a BotCon thing that Hasbro kept going at retail after BotCon ended. Something I doubt they would actually do but I would love if they went there... Take another crack at the Pre-Beast Wars figures. There's a couple Predacons who still don't actually have toys though designs for them do exist in the comics. There's also the fact that Hasbro could make far more accurate versions since they're not limited to repainting existing molds. I love what they did with that set but I'd really love to see a set of figures more intentionally designed to be those characters rather than having to make an existing mold work as something it was never meant to be.

Technically it's the second Guardian homage we got. In Energon Omega Supreme was recolored into Omega Sentinel, which was in the Guardian Robot colors. That was the version I snagged because blue & white is my favorite color scheme and it wasn't a name reuse so there was no question Sentinel was his own character.

There's a particularly obscure character that I'm completely flabbergasted we still haven't gotten is Guiltaur/Gilthor, the concept of a combination of Megatron and Optimus is such a money printing machine that I can't believe they haven't done in toy form yet. Also, judging by how inevitable G1 SKyquake is now and considering how Motormaster does seem to have potential to be used as the basis for a new Thunderclash...they could end up making a Turbomasters Combiner who could have Hyperdrive as their combined mode, who by the way, as per his concept art, HAS THE TRUCK FRONT AS HIS LEGS LIKE MOTORMASTER.

Who is next Uk Autobot Flame with his Firetank alt mode or Octus with his Mark III Travel Machine (also known as a Dalek) alt mode.

I think a big factor for the obscure names is to keep the copyright of that character

I am eagerly awaiting Spanner and Spacewarp... And Flame. And the Triumvirate!!!

I HAD THE SAME THOUGHT! Inwas so livid when I heard Nacelle was getting a toy, like we've waited YEARS for Sunstorm!

I love these "obscure" Transformers the most! These are both retools again (Kup and Arcee) but they look pretty good. It looks like GameStop Canada isn't allowed to sell them until April 7, and I don't know about USA.

Come to think of it, G1 Grandus is functionally the same as the GoBots Command Center and Thruster, just with the added play value of interconnectivity with not only Sky Garry and Star Convoy, but every Micromaster station, transport, or base that used the common ramp connector system.

Obscure characters I hope to see are toy only characters or IDW designs from Bayverse for SS. Like Divebomb, Reverb, Gunbarrel, Tankor, Incinerator, etc.

I like when we get obscure characters that wouldn't otherwise get more modern figures. And unreleased ideas like Nightprowler and YES FINALLY TOXITRON. Plus it keeps Hasbro happy with their need to make most molds reusable in some way.

Not just obscure, hasbro has still been creating new transformers. And i'm not talking show specific characters. But we got new team members in Combiner Wars, we got the fossilizers, and now brand new junkions. I wasn't a fan of the fossilizers but i am enjoying all the junkions.

I think Hasbros just trying to milk G1 to the point where they have to give us the most obscure characters. Even the ones that only show up for one frame lol

13:10 Brazil is wonderful in the summer time, I’m sure you would love to go to Brazil and see all of its glory. If you don’t go to Brazil then I will have to take you there by force

I actually prefer the obscure and WTF Transformers. We've gotten a million Optimus Prime and a million BumbleBees not much to get excited for. They still all generally look and feel the same too. Tho no one ever expected a brand new original Jhiaxus sculpted figure to be released at mainline. Hell most of us didn't even know who he was. Those are the characters that get me excited and make me fall deeper into Transformers lore. Even the out landish / obscure paint deco is refreshing gives the mold a newer feel. Hence why I personally love all the G2 tributes. Orange Starburst Jazz is just what I didn't ask for yet now need. 👏🤠👏🤠

I really want a Transmetal Optimus Primal figure so badly. I know he's not an obscure character, but I want Hasbro & Takara Tomy to make a new figure of that design. Also, if they do make a new figure of Transmetal Optimus Primal, they could repaint it into Apelinq.

I wonder if Hasbro is going to reach all the way back to the 80's mail away and give us new toys of the Omni-Bots!

This is the kind of unrevealed on leaked surprises that Hasbro could do with Power Rangers cosmic fury.

Xaaron got an homage in the WFC/FOC Combaticons repaints: Wreckers ->Ruination I want, I NEED a Grandus redux! He was like the last G1 character made, ever. He’s a city bot! I’m still salty he wasn’t Micronus Prime’s colony ship.

I honestly don’t know if anything I want made into a toy is too obscure at this point,because it just feels like nearly everything on my wishlist is inevitable going to be made. There’s still a few that might not happen,but I’ll be fun without those.

Im gonna politely disagree with this video by rebutting with this. We have not hit peak obscurity until we get a Voyager Class Slayride

I’d draw the line hard at japan-original late Decepticon leaders, like Violengiguar and Dark Nova/Star Giant, or otherwise one-off villains like Majin Zarak. At least with a G1 Skyquake basically guaranteed, that’s easily repurposed as Scrash for those so inclined!

I really want Leo Prime repainted as Under 3 (Undermine). The Club did a mockup of the original Lio Convoy, and it looked great.

I don't get how this could have made it to a store for sale before it was even announced.

I wonder what would come first, a toy for Emirate Xaaron or a toy for Flame the disgraced Autobot scientist?

SCROUNGE!!!!!! But, of course they had to make him out of a Cosmos mould, because in the comic (See 'The Smelting Pool' for his appearance) he basically transformed from robot into a rolling Frisbee! Still,,,,it's F**KING SCROUNGE, MAN!!!!!!! This made me VERY happy :D

I think the most obscure they can go are the 13 Primes. Not those Prime Masters toys but the action robots.

I really want an Emirate Xaaron. And Battle Gaia would be awesome!

I'm really hoping we manage to get a proper Jetstorm, to be honest. The new Cyclonus mold makes me feel like it's probably possible with just a few retools...

Something extremely obscure would be Micro change transformers never ported over in Dialman, Magneman, Beam Robo, and an homage to the revolver robo Alternatively Emeriate Xaron

All this obscurity and we still don't have a good modern G2 Megs, while Animated and Prime fans can't get new toys of characters they love that actually look like them.

Raksha as a dragon snake (Queztaqualtul) and Night Racer as a sports car, do it, Hasbro.

I think starting the Transformers version with an E makes sense.

I’m hoping they do more beast wars figs, like spitter, polar claw, K9, etc.. maybe after the beast wars movie they will do a beast wars cartoon.. fingers crossed!

Well this is just a curve ball of the mostly obscure characters one of which became a prominent character for one of the main characters.

That Unused Artwork can be seen in the Legacy Artbook.

Grandus was remolded as a Brave robot in Dagwon.

I'm surprised we haven't gotten the Omnibots. I want my Overdrive.

Of obscure characters, I wouldn't mind seeing more of the Brazilian characters

12:08 AH YEAH!!! SCREWHEAD GOT TO BE A POWER DASHER!!! SCREWHEAD IS A MEAN LITTLE AUTOBOT!!! Got a big old screw on his head. Screwhead gonna be like pow, pow, smack, pow, pow ... knocking bad guys down. They all be like, "Who are you?" - And I'll be like, "Screwhead."

Ah well at least they are doing Unicron trilogy now.

You will always find a fan who wants the something special. Like the takara machine robo repaints upgraded...

I think some of the Japanese Beast Wars characters would fall under too obscure, at least for US release. If Hasbro was clever, they would import lots of 500 Japanese packages/characters to sell in HazLab. Or allow pre-orders with a cut-off date.

no, the Smokescreen's episode wasn't about "gambling is good" but was about "cheating while gambling is good" XD

Personally I would like them to make a new Megabolt toy, which was compatible with the headmasters. Also make a retool for Dark Nova.

there are many more obscure characters to draw a line at over grandus. they could make the rescue force (beyond that selects set referencing them and the shuttle base in one swoop.) what if they gave us figures of Blasters siblings? Toaster, Bluster, and Carmin would be absurd to get.

If Hasbro is gonna go obscure with figs, I'd love for them to make a Aero-bot from the 2000s gobots line. Always loved that bot as a kid and wouls love to see it get the modern treatment

I'm hoping for figures of G1 Freezon and RID Nightcruz. Maybe also Beast Wars: Uprising Magna Stampede and Stockade as a Unicorn and armed Wagon duo.

It would be awsome to see hasbro do a figure of that yellow Tailgate but name him something like Splicer.

Scrounge! We need a new one. One we can find easily without paying through the nose. He turns into a wheel. It shouldn't be that hard

What about Gaia herself? Unicron and Primus sister from the OG Botcon Shattered Glass run? Could be a potential remold of Unicron without the spiky bits and the maw.

Not obscure enough until we see some BWII hommages :p and I'm STILL waiting for an actual Nautica! >

It’s probably people like me that’s why they go obscure, I’m a sucker for characters who are one offs/obscure

Another obscure one would be Gaiacross, the Kabaya Gum Kit based on the Multiforce combiner Landcross! Maybe a Froid?

It would be wild if Hasbro gave us new toys of Torque and Falcatron aka FOC Autobots created via a promotion by Ford Australia and High Moon Studios with fan picked names.

Glad I'm not the only one who doesn't 'get' how many Diaclone repaints there are. Personally, they are rarely different enough to be cool and usually just look off instead.

Give me ALL of the updated Diaclones, all the Welcoming Committee, and updated Omnibots! But I doubt they will ever give us Slugfest and Overkill.

Too obscure is where they make really odd characters but we still don't have Nightbeat and Hosehead and the other Headmasters. Oh, we got Minerva but she's not a Headmaster.

My name in English is David so imagine my panic when he said the video is for me

I'm still waiting for a Carnivac

Nothing is too obscure! I don't need another Prime, Megatron on Sideswipe! Bring on the weird ones! Great work Hasbro!

Selects has DEFINITELY taken over Botcon’s niche

At this point I wouldn't be surprise if they retooled Haslab Unicron into Grand Galvatron

Hey obscure characters are great for army building imo

I'm calling Machine Wars - we've got Starscream from Dreading, Megatron/Megaplex from Needlenose, and I can see how Armada Prime could be MWPrime

If/when Metroplex gets a new figure, I can see him being repainted into Grandus

Here is hoping in the future they release a CRYOTEK coloration of the LEGACY Transmetal II Megatron that came out. oh ho! If they do it right and the awesome blue color scheme....TAKE MY ENERGON! XD