“Have A Plan, And Be Willing To Abandon It” - How George Saunders Picks His Writing Topics

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The Late Show with Stephen Colbert

The Late Show with Stephen Colbert

Жыл бұрын

Stephen welcomes one of his favorite authors, George Saunders, back to The Late Show to discuss his writing process and his latest book, “Liberation Day,” which is available everywhere now. #Colbert #GeorgeSaunders #LiberationDay
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@kevinmilne3487
@kevinmilne3487 Жыл бұрын
This. This right here is why Colbert is leagues above other late night TV. This is an interview from a bygone era; when we didn’t shy away from some true intelligent discussion. Instead we reduced ourselves to pseudo reality tv. Thank you Colbert!
@stefanfrankel8157
@stefanfrankel8157 Жыл бұрын
I don't know how old you are, but I remember when Jack Paar did interviews like this on the original Tonight Show. He'd actually have 10 minute discussions with his favorite author. I forget the guy's name, but it was always interesting. I also listened to the Long John Nebel show on WOR out of New York City on my Philco radio in Philadelphia. And people wonder why folks fall for the most bizarre theories about a flat earth and a faked moon landing.
@dark_neverland
@dark_neverland Жыл бұрын
I agree tonight honestly think it's one of the reasons he gets so many guests on his show that hardly ever do TV interviews or interviews at all
@patriciabagby90
@patriciabagby90 Жыл бұрын
Great point.
@gixellia8455
@gixellia8455 Жыл бұрын
Well said. Thank you :o)
@lfeb
@lfeb Жыл бұрын
You should check out Trevor Noah's interviews. Very deep almost every time
@JillWhitcomb1966
@JillWhitcomb1966 Жыл бұрын
Due to seeing author George Saunders on your show, I've now enrolled in a George Saunders Literature class as part of my MFA degree coursework. Thanks for the inspiration!
@kathrynmceachern9503
@kathrynmceachern9503 Жыл бұрын
Colbert never fails to inspire. It's a little eerie... But, amazing!
@BooksForever
@BooksForever Жыл бұрын
I was just behind George Saunders in earning our Bachelor of Science degrees in engineering at the Colorado School of Mines. He’s one of those relatively rare engineers who has a facility for words that even exceeds his command of numbers. Great guy!
@Junksaint
@Junksaint Жыл бұрын
Good way of putting it, you have a faculty for words yourself, Sir.
@marshwetland3808
@marshwetland3808 Жыл бұрын
@@Junksaint Facility, not faculty...don't you hate autocorrect? Or maybe it was a joke.
@grazeinthepasture
@grazeinthepasture Жыл бұрын
@@marshwetland3808 *shoves glasses up nose* actually it's fac......No one likes you, Marsh.
@charliejsanders
@charliejsanders Жыл бұрын
So what! 🎉 Noice!!
@peggygallagher5802
@peggygallagher5802 Жыл бұрын
What an amazing discussion about the writing process...
@jeanneratterman
@jeanneratterman Жыл бұрын
I like what he said about have a plan and not being attached to it. Organic development after you step off into the creative process is the best.
@guywolff
@guywolff Жыл бұрын
I think this is my favorite interaction from 50 years of seeing the Late SHow .
@boffo63
@boffo63 Жыл бұрын
That was much too short of an interview. Brilliant people talking.
@emilytamayomaher
@emilytamayomaher Жыл бұрын
Wow, so admire George Saunders and now admire Stephen Colbert even more.
@krisfrederick5001
@krisfrederick5001 Жыл бұрын
I have never heard of this man, as a songwriter I can relate to a lot of this, and so glad that I have.
@mfpendle
@mfpendle Жыл бұрын
Oh, man. Read everything you can by George Saunders - it's all incredible
@melanies.6030
@melanies.6030 Жыл бұрын
He's absolutely brilliant. His stories are mind-bending.
@krisfrederick5001
@krisfrederick5001 Жыл бұрын
@@LorentJalabert Orwell has his own sense of Gallows Humor
@CalebDBarnes
@CalebDBarnes 7 ай бұрын
If you appreciate songwriting and Saunders, check out his conversation with Jason Isbell
@hoozle
@hoozle Жыл бұрын
More from this dude pls, great interview, thanks for once again introducing me to a fascinating person
@RawDiscovery
@RawDiscovery Жыл бұрын
I just started writing a story and this interview couldn't have come at a better time. Thank you for this conversation.
@amberandrews6842
@amberandrews6842 Жыл бұрын
Enjoy the adventure! 💜💜
@Booksandchess
@Booksandchess Жыл бұрын
Check out his book called a swim in the pond (or something like that). It’s a great book about writing by exploring Russian short stories.
@OrangeDurito
@OrangeDurito Жыл бұрын
@@Booksandchess Thank you so much for the recommendation. I have added this book in my Goodreads TBR.
@bethhawks8678
@bethhawks8678 Жыл бұрын
I just went to symphonyspace and watched this reading. He's right. It is stunningly beautiful.
@muhammadumer7833
@muhammadumer7833 Жыл бұрын
Stephen has earned my respect time and again because of these interviews. You asked all the right and natural questions. These were all the questions I wanted to ask George. Youre an exceptional host because you adapt as per your guests. God bless. Love from Pakistan 🇵🇰
@rjtroy2214
@rjtroy2214 Жыл бұрын
Interviews like this are 100x better than interviews with most movie and tv stars
@carbine090909
@carbine090909 Жыл бұрын
my daughter turned me onto him, love his work, yhanks for hosting him!
@Achdujeh
@Achdujeh Жыл бұрын
I already like that Interview before watching it, because I LOOOOOOOOVE George Saunders' "The Very Persistant Gappers of Frip' with Lane Smiths sweet Illustrations OMG! And I love short stories, and now that I know he writes short stories to I will definetely go buy more of him.
@Chiater
@Chiater Жыл бұрын
I love these intelligent conversations. I come to expect them from Stephen and find I Wade through the Hollywood star interviews (which on occasion can surprise me but usually are more shallow) to wait for one of these gems
@matthewcates2337
@matthewcates2337 Жыл бұрын
Man, I needed this.
@jeannefoster5594
@jeannefoster5594 Жыл бұрын
Short stories are magical. So well done. I avoid reading them because they’re so great I don’t want them to end.
@Boomer_Johnson
@Boomer_Johnson Жыл бұрын
My favorite part of doing improv is when you work off the other person. When you don't have a plan and you are unprepared, you can the the most genius and funniest stuff just from flying blind. Man plans, God laughs. Having a plan, ruins any chance for a belly laugh or tears running down an upturned cheek from the laugh. My funniest moments are when I've worked with someone that can listen and think on the fly.
@pirobot668beta
@pirobot668beta Жыл бұрын
When I was in the Army, we had a training exercise: "Imagine your mission is to drive 5 trucks from A to B. Now imagine that X happens at this point on the map. Now what do you do now?" We spent 8 grueling hours going over every conceivable 'X' that could happen to 5 trucks driving 3 miles down a lonely road. Conclusion: Your carefully laid plans will evaporate like Summer rain, be ready to think fast! Clinging to plans and schemes whose time has past is a sign of childish thinking. "Stay the course!"
@OrangeDurito
@OrangeDurito Жыл бұрын
Ah what a lovely interview this was! He is so articulate and eloquent with his way of explaining things. Thank you for introducing me to him.
@samkurlekar
@samkurlekar Жыл бұрын
This was such a beautiful interview that went beyond platitudes and crowd pleasing. Rare to see those nowadays
@ammaleslie509
@ammaleslie509 Жыл бұрын
I wasn't interested in this guest. But then Stephen said "one of my favorite authors", and i trust his taste. So I watched and was amazed and wish they'd do an hour together.
@micaeladelgado76
@micaeladelgado76 Жыл бұрын
Same with me
@TheLadyBlerd
@TheLadyBlerd Жыл бұрын
Ngl I was just letting the playlist run trying to get to sleep... now I'm about to google more about this guy 😅😅😅
@kernjames
@kernjames Жыл бұрын
Saunders, what a genius.
@screenwriterabdullahh.erak2778
@screenwriterabdullahh.erak2778 Жыл бұрын
As a huge fan of Mr. Saunders, I want to thank you Mr. Colbert for having him on YOUR show!!!
@janetfrench1576
@janetfrench1576 Жыл бұрын
I loved, loved , loved " Lincoln in the Bardo"! Please read if you have not.
@janinemeier7201
@janinemeier7201 Жыл бұрын
This was another great interview. Colbert brings such interesting people on and has a great way of getting them to open up .
@sarahogawa7035
@sarahogawa7035 Жыл бұрын
Saw the interview. Bought the book. Just read the story. Absolutely amazing! It’s been frightening and surreal to watch the situation unfold these past few years from my expat home in Kyoto, Japan. This story made it even more so. Thank you for this important book recommendation and a great interview with an incredible writer.
@wendelynanderson9517
@wendelynanderson9517 Жыл бұрын
Visual artists too are about letting the process determine the outcome.
@reneekad
@reneekad Жыл бұрын
That Stephen King short story about the siblings and the ladder keeps coming up.
@kowen5323
@kowen5323 Жыл бұрын
make the plan, execute the plan, expect the plan to go off the rails, throw away the plan. -Leonard Snart
@UnderstandingDarkness
@UnderstandingDarkness Жыл бұрын
Legendary! 😍
@BestFitSquareChannel
@BestFitSquareChannel Жыл бұрын
A lovely, lovely human being… 🥂
@GavinKing22
@GavinKing22 Жыл бұрын
Great lecture!
@Booksandchess
@Booksandchess Жыл бұрын
Please interview more authors of this caliber
@lionelflores1775
@lionelflores1775 Жыл бұрын
Great explanations of discovery!
@summe1972
@summe1972 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant author.
@satanicscrotumsucker155
@satanicscrotumsucker155 Жыл бұрын
Yes sir the watch list 😎😎😎🤠and the devil’s hard rock candy mountain circus 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡funny huh?
@tcreative8030
@tcreative8030 Жыл бұрын
George is the best!!!
@cygam00
@cygam00 Жыл бұрын
Wow, this man is amazing! Pick whichever person you think I'm talking about and I guarantee you'll be correct.
@DFTBA.
@DFTBA. Жыл бұрын
This interview was just a wonderful break from political mess and even big celebrities. It's just an honest intelligent conversation where the author is treated respectfully and allowed to do most of the talking with prompts to explore another thought once he's done with the story he's telling at any moment... I'd love more of these. I also really like that tie Saunders is wearing for some reason. It just looks so... HIM. It's like someone took his lovely brain and scribbled its essence onto the tie, a pretty bit of chaos that has adjacent thoughts/similar shapes and such but doesn't just repeat the same old same old circular story over and over. It matches him (and I've always thought he's a rare one whose face truly suits his facial hair, not that it matters... just makes him super-pleasant to watch chatting w/Stephen, that and the warm dad vibe in his eyes when he grins). I'd love him to be part of #P4A or just partner somehow with John Green. They're both incredibly thoughtful, sentimental people I like a lot, even more as people than authors though they're both great at their craft, different as their works are (and for different audiences overall).
@trevawhitmoyer682
@trevawhitmoyer682 Жыл бұрын
Excellent ethos.
@djameson5576
@djameson5576 Жыл бұрын
Everyone, check out "MY FLAMBOYANT GRANDSON" by him and performed by Harris Yulin.
@dandanner3111
@dandanner3111 Жыл бұрын
Ah, that's what's wrong with me. I have Life-block... stupidly high expectations of life.
@julesmm
@julesmm Жыл бұрын
Exactly! 😂😂😂
@RandyWilsonESQ
@RandyWilsonESQ Жыл бұрын
yes! i am much happier now that i consciously work on lowering expectations for everything
@McLKeith
@McLKeith Жыл бұрын
"Getting to that place where your mind has quieter, all your usual easy opinions get. You get into a Holy state of not knowing anything." That sounds pretty Zen to me.
@nancya7289
@nancya7289 Жыл бұрын
I think Ezra Klein interviewed Saunders where they discussed the impact of practicing meditation.
@stefanfrankel8157
@stefanfrankel8157 Жыл бұрын
This guy looks like one of Castle's writing buddies in the TV show.
@suekelsey1329
@suekelsey1329 Жыл бұрын
Awesome Thank You!!!
@vicj2141
@vicj2141 Жыл бұрын
Good questions.
@vargasfamily282
@vargasfamily282 Жыл бұрын
Love the book cover!
@steveconn
@steveconn Жыл бұрын
The ending is usually something writers have in mind even if the story shifts on the way. "Beautiful border guards?"
@12x2richter
@12x2richter Жыл бұрын
I'm no professional, but I've written a few short stories, and generally I think of it as "I've thought of the punchline, now I have to write the joke"
@marshwetland3808
@marshwetland3808 Жыл бұрын
On horses coming down a hill. It could be beautiful. Since he's not trying to escape them but rather got good info from them!
@dianarosen3861
@dianarosen3861 Жыл бұрын
@@marshwetland3808 maybe they were women.
@anitawebster9450
@anitawebster9450 Жыл бұрын
This was my process when making jewelry too: I know what I want to make; I take it apart at LEAST 3 times; NOW I'm happy with what I made. Every time! 👍
@ceebs648
@ceebs648 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant Interview. I’m currently reading Tenth of December and it’s fantastic. He has become one of my favourite authors.
@bettyvick2850
@bettyvick2850 Жыл бұрын
Fox 8 is such a wonderful book. 🦊
@6p00l
@6p00l Жыл бұрын
Amazing insights and interview
@annevandenbosch5309
@annevandenbosch5309 Жыл бұрын
When do you find yourself on KZfaq taking away life lessons, getting schooled in writing and feeling still for the kindness you just watched? Only with Colbert baby, only with Colbert.
@calpal9983
@calpal9983 Жыл бұрын
Great interview!
@modernape9878
@modernape9878 Жыл бұрын
at 1:32, Kimmel or Fallon would've made some joke that would've derailed Saunders's whole train of thought. The conversation would have gotten lost in the laughter, never to return with the same passion. You can criticize Colbert for a lot, but I love that he knows when to shut the fuck up and let his guest finish their thought.
@jwnyc3
@jwnyc3 Жыл бұрын
OK well now I know why Saunders is my writing god.
@bluewheels3980
@bluewheels3980 Жыл бұрын
Can anyone share a link to the short story reading that Steven did they were talking about in the segment or is it behind a paywall?
@MelissaThompson432
@MelissaThompson432 6 ай бұрын
I was not able to get Symphony Space to give up the reading. I would love to have a link to it.
@NewMessage
@NewMessage Жыл бұрын
Hershel Walker has the same philosophy about kids.
@mrburns1436
@mrburns1436 Жыл бұрын
What an engaging guest! Dang this interview was way too short.
@annsanse2935
@annsanse2935 Жыл бұрын
manage your ego, don't let your ego manage you. you are not your ego.
@aidanmargarson8910
@aidanmargarson8910 Жыл бұрын
they are going to be playing "so what" as they fly toward Jupiter
@peggygallagher5802
@peggygallagher5802 Жыл бұрын
🙏💜✌
@BigPhilly15
@BigPhilly15 8 ай бұрын
I’m a conservative who loves George Saunders’s fiction. Brilliant, funny writer.
@sanjanasp8222
@sanjanasp8222 Жыл бұрын
"Have a plan and be willing to abandon it" someone tell Musk? :D
@nicolamcguinness8689
@nicolamcguinness8689 Жыл бұрын
John larch talk about Jamie dornan
@macforme
@macforme Жыл бұрын
Great guest ...but I guess no one around here proofreads the Closed Captions before publication.... they were dreadful. eg: To me, that's Chicago in a shutshell.
@J.AF.16
@J.AF.16 Жыл бұрын
A good gambler has gotta know when to hold'em and know when to fold'em.
@anthonyschlott916
@anthonyschlott916 Жыл бұрын
Know when to walk away and know when to run
@amygeyer1166
@amygeyer1166 Жыл бұрын
I watch Rachel, I buy a book, I watch Stephen, I buy a book 😊
@robyntarantino3151
@robyntarantino3151 Жыл бұрын
Loved Fox 8 - although it also crushed me...
@MissyGail4eva
@MissyGail4eva Жыл бұрын
dibs on 2nd
@YouGuessIGuess
@YouGuessIGuess Жыл бұрын
If you haven't read anything by Saunders, do yourself a favor and check out one of his short story collections.
@reneekad
@reneekad Жыл бұрын
Kim told me Bob Saggat lived there
@reneekad
@reneekad Жыл бұрын
Kim used to tell me Britney Spears hung out at Starbucks there.
@alsaunders2490
@alsaunders2490 Жыл бұрын
Way to go uncle george, not my real uncle.
@iamthirdyt
@iamthirdyt Жыл бұрын
4:28 I’m so glad from the results of this midterm election we can see that the majority of Americans is still nice and have basic decency and common sense. It’s heartwarming to see Democrats AND lots of Republicans come together and say Trump is toxic, egoistic, and just a mean bully, and say enough is enough. I’m so glad from the results of this midterm election we can see that the majority of Americans is still nice and have basic decency and common sense. It’s heartwarming to seen Democrats AND lots of Republicans come together and say Trump is toxic, egoistic, and just a mean bully, and enough is enough. We don’t have to keep going backwards! Faith in America is restored! There is hope!
@globalwarmhugs7741
@globalwarmhugs7741 Жыл бұрын
America was not built by mutual consensus.
@quicoule
@quicoule Жыл бұрын
No one said the consensus came easily
@globalwarmhugs7741
@globalwarmhugs7741 Жыл бұрын
@@quicoule it wasn't a consensus. It was built upon the backs of people who were stolen, upon stolen land.
@reneekad
@reneekad Жыл бұрын
I like fun but I prefer to do a lot or work too
@reneekad
@reneekad Жыл бұрын
Until situations get resolved, and while things are pretty bad on the ground, I stick to fun/lighthearted things.
@reneekad
@reneekad Жыл бұрын
Judging by the looks on peoples faces they are realizing how bad things have been for how long and for returns we haven’t gotten. At all.
@KARYTTAH_PopMetal_Rock_BAND
@KARYTTAH_PopMetal_Rock_BAND Жыл бұрын
> 😏 Maybe We're The 1st Spiritist* Pop-Metal Or Rock Band In This World... But Don't Pay Much Attention To Our Neanderthal English, HaHa ❤ HaHa *NOTE: > Spiritist is who professes Spiritism, the Gospel continuation It has began with the books by Allan Kardec and continued in the books by Francisco C. Xavier, the greatest and more important medium/prophet of spirits of the last centuries...
@alfrednewman2234
@alfrednewman2234 Жыл бұрын
Just under 2 yrs to get out the vote.
@MusicGuru09
@MusicGuru09 Жыл бұрын
*Only two people talk about wisdom* *one who is older and* *The other one who has stumbled a lot at a young age*
@scritthekid5943
@scritthekid5943 3 ай бұрын
Imagine a time when people, even brilliant people, sincerely believed Joe Biden would save America, The same people who prayed to the great Savior Obama.
@marcusantoniusAfterDark
@marcusantoniusAfterDark Жыл бұрын
Cool. I am 50 and…never heard of him? Read anything? Well i love audi books and of course best list/short list stuff. Must take a look at his work. Maybe i am wrong.
@peterschild4015
@peterschild4015 Жыл бұрын
His jeans are the exact same color as the chair he's sitting on. I can't tell where the jeans stop and the sofa starts.
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