Citizen have just released the Full Titanium Tsuyosa killer, the NJ0180. Great looking watch but at 429€ it might be priced a bit too expensive. The specs are there though. Check the video! GET THE WATCHE HERE: amzn.to/3xAaGyM
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@TheUnrevealerАй бұрын
It is crazy when 429 considered "pricy", but then 6k for moonwatch considered "bang for a buck"
@moralambush10 күн бұрын
That's cuz this thing's got a miyota movement in it.
@TheUnrevealer10 күн бұрын
@@moralambush like it was way worse than co-axial or eta:)
@moralambush10 күн бұрын
@@TheUnrevealer miyota 8000s are known for rotor wobble & stuttering second hands. Guess which movement is in these citizen watches.
@TheUnrevealer10 күн бұрын
@@moralambush for the price is more of finishing than movement. At least its not as ridiculous as hublot eta movements fot 15k.
@moralambush10 күн бұрын
@@TheUnrevealerno real watch collector takes Hublot seriously. That's for rappers & influencers.
@isluderea83222 ай бұрын
Always too big…. Please bring a 38 watch with integrated bracelet
@wongpandaiАй бұрын
your wrist too small
@isluderea8322Ай бұрын
@@wongpandai I have a small wrist yes i know. My 36 Explorer and my BB58 are perfect for me. My 41 Sub is also ok because it does not have an integrated bracelet. Therefore, a Citizen or a PRX in 38 are perfect for me
@dibyadipdutta1248Ай бұрын
They have a 38mm of the same series which is Ecodrive
@isluderea8322Ай бұрын
@@dibyadipdutta1248 i like the look and movement of the tsuyosa not that of the ecodrive
@bbbnnndddАй бұрын
They’re making sizes that work for the majority…not for the few with 12 year old girl wrists. Get in the gym and beef up those forearms, buddy.
@SaSpursFan2 ай бұрын
Looks amazing but I wish it was was smaller
@devstories-iv1mw2 ай бұрын
I wish they released 38 mm version
@deskdiver2 ай бұрын
Thank you for exploring this model further. It seems to be a classic example of a trade-off: an impressive exterior with a less remarkable interior.
@Family4Dogs2 ай бұрын
Oh my gosh I hope they make this in a Yellow or Orange dial!! I love this!
@NoneNone_2 ай бұрын
I need it in black 🖤
@jaydub95092 ай бұрын
Nice thoughtful review! I agree, including the 9000 series would have made purchasing this watch essentially a no brainer, at least for me. I'm not as concerned with the advertised price, however, as Citizen watches can typically be found at greatly reduced prices on the secondary market, especially once the fervor has died down.
@MrsVanB2 ай бұрын
I like this watch! And I’m glad the crown is at the 3 o’clock position!🥳
@joywatson37642 ай бұрын
Great job!
@AckoMunze2 ай бұрын
Nobody should ever pay full msrp price for Citizen or Bulova. You can always find them discounted by at least 25% and even up to 50% at Citizen brick and mortar stores, or even online. 100m water resistance, titanium with proven coating, saphire, beautiful design and at 25% off, it is fantastic piece and awesome value!!! My only gripe is the 3Hz movement vs 4Hz smoother sweep, but it is not enough to deter me from buying it as it will last forever no matter what. Way better than Tsuyosa with its 50m water resistance. Thanks for bringing this one to our attention, appreciated!
@hugojrcumbres2 ай бұрын
Yes I like 4hz watches too. But in small seconds it is less noticeable and power reserve should last longer.
@AckoMunze2 ай бұрын
@@hugojrcumbres true!
@thanhnamnguyen52802 ай бұрын
@@hugojrcumbresreally think affordable brands should offer more small sec, 3Hz on small sec is just a whole different ball game
@jcshannon73882 ай бұрын
I love it! Hopefully they will upgrade it or at least come out with a version with a 9 series. Thanks for the great video.
@wrenside2 ай бұрын
i really like Bulova and Citizen but they can be very frustrating offering us watches that are a brick shy of a load: they drop a Miyota 8xxx into the watch or the dial is way too big or fill in the blank.
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR2 ай бұрын
I love the dial, especially in that colour. Having it be a fully titanium watch as well is great... But I'm with you, they definitely cheaper out on the movement, it deserved a 9000 series.
@Horologique2 ай бұрын
Totally mate, a 9000 here would have allowed a slimmer case, and overall a better proposition
@spicydragon38812 ай бұрын
I love Citizen and love this one. I was not blown away by the original Tsuyosa, but this is beautiful. My only gripe is I think its a bit over priced. I think I might sit patiently and wait a bit to pick one up on the secondary market.
@Horologique2 ай бұрын
Smart move 👍
@Cinoism2 ай бұрын
Or just wait til the hype dies down. I'm sure you can pick up from Jomashop or Chrono24 for 20%-30% off after 6 months or so.
@brentwhite97122 ай бұрын
Such smart looking watches, I really hope that these are released in my part of the world.
@Horologique2 ай бұрын
🤞
@frankyz0072 ай бұрын
Thanks Olivier. It's a very interesting model. Even better then the évolution of thé tsuyosa. The Tissot look, thé green dial IS great. Thé date complication, titanium of course and saphir... I imagine the lume IS not Bad. And 10 ATM IS greater for everyday Wear... It's a really classy élégant but tool watch! A little bit Expensive but for a titanium Citizen it's ok!😊
@Horologique2 ай бұрын
Yes, totally my friend, thank you for you comment 👍
@stefpix2 ай бұрын
They finally fixed the bracelet, removed the rounded links that do not match the angular case. It was particularly bad in the Tsuyosa small seconds. And better legibility.
@panospeter_pan42572 ай бұрын
Im definitely getting the green textured one.dont like the 8 series calibre and the clasp. But the dial and case,are excellent
@Horologique2 ай бұрын
Totally!
@johanvandersandt89042 ай бұрын
Wow! Look at that! That dial is awesome but the movement should be better at the price! I would not mind the titanium version!
@hochunghing47142 ай бұрын
I wish it can use miyota 9015 movement
@johanvandersandt89042 ай бұрын
@@hochunghing4714 Thats an awesome movement!
@williamsipe11512 ай бұрын
I like it. I think I'll wait a bit and get it for half the price in a year or so.
@Joeyb33f21 күн бұрын
the bracelet makes much more sense than the tsuyosa- i never understood the president style integrated bracelet
@angelherrera68202 ай бұрын
What an awesome watch but why are they handicapping this watch with a budget movement? The 8000 series movements are fine movements for budget watches but this watch deserves a 9000 series movement. I really don't understand Citizen or Seiko for that matter. Micro brands and a good amount of aliexpress watch brands are producing better watches for lower prices that have better specs. Anyway, rant over. Still a nice watch. Cheers!
@gregorychoubana6755Ай бұрын
There is also a salmon dial version, which looks lovely, ref NJ0180-80z.
@droid1appmkrАй бұрын
Also seen a grey dial with the ref as nj0180-80h.
@spoon0720002 ай бұрын
Very attractive, but the text is a dealbreaker. You don’t see Rolex putting “Gold” on the dial. Citizen needs to realize sometimes less is more.
@howyduinyall7653Ай бұрын
Yeah c’mon zitizen
@max.loves.watches2 ай бұрын
Love the design. With the movement and crystal I don't think it's worth the full price, but these should be attainable for much less eventually.
@RadixRillАй бұрын
Man i wish they beefed up the luxury a bit on this to compete more with a CW12.
@alexanderweber34472 ай бұрын
I like the 100m water resistance. The Tsyosa had just 50m
@caktaylor2 ай бұрын
Negatives be damned! I am going to have this watch.
@asiantimepieces2 ай бұрын
For a second I thought I was watching a VC Overseas 😮 I love the new Citizen GMTs as well but too expensive 🤦🏻♂️
@Horologique2 ай бұрын
That's a flattering comparison 😁
@SAMX49492 ай бұрын
which gmts
@asiantimepieces2 ай бұрын
@@SAMX4949 I meant their latest GMT, the 8 series 880.
@Tangylives2 ай бұрын
Will probably be on sale for 250-300€ in a few months - I think it's pretty good value once the discounts kick in.
@turbyoulance2 ай бұрын
Nice Edition/s
@peterzagorski43162 ай бұрын
Price is not an issue, but not being symmetrical is
@AforATY2 ай бұрын
That’s the thing I can’t get over as well 😂
@pierre-yvesp3769Ай бұрын
In my opinion that's what makes these stand out, and I really love it. To each their own, I guess. 😊
@howyduinyall7653Ай бұрын
Troooooooooo
@RogerSartet0072 ай бұрын
What is it that our Japanese friends have with date windows?? Just as with the Orient Bambino, the only thing wrong with this beautiful piece is that superfluous date window. I agree with your view on the price point. I would place it (considering the movement) in the Bambino tier, 250 €, or $. Anyway, thank you for the, as always, informative video!
@Horologique2 ай бұрын
250 is a bit generous, 350 and I'd have been a happy man. Or the current price point, even 450 with the 9 series
@andyfrizzell43522 ай бұрын
$200- 250 Eco Drive
@pierrelauwers87192 ай бұрын
Have a look at the Citizen NH8390-20LE and 03XE....Steel of course, but nearly the same movement, beautiful design AND.....199 euro....
@gragrn2 ай бұрын
I hope they release a quartz version at half the price like Tissot did.
@daveho8522 ай бұрын
this wins hands down at least by the bracelet
@tedblack24152 ай бұрын
Think about it , if Seiko offered this what do you think it'd cost ? bearing in mind you'd still get an equivalent NH variant so in my mind it seems fairly priced . Mind you they're in danger of going into intergrated bracelet overkill across their range but a nice piece nonetheless.
@Horologique2 ай бұрын
I'd cost 800€ to 1500, it's hard to know with Seiko's ridiculous pricing, but certainly over 800
@jerryjensen64302 ай бұрын
Nice dial and titanium case. It’s always a no on 8215. Should be a 9 series.
@hochunghing47142 ай бұрын
I agree even to pay more.
@hochunghing47142 ай бұрын
I wise it can use miyota 9 Movement even to pay more
@jagpapi49462 ай бұрын
A very nice watch, there is also a version with Eco-Drive. I really hope that the quality of its workmanship will be high, comparable to the prx. Because in the case of Tsuyosu, the bracelet was tragic, below criticism
@Horologique2 ай бұрын
I very much like the version with the Eco Drive which was released a couple of years back. That one with a 9 series would just have been great 👍
@jagpapi49462 ай бұрын
I've never seen this model with Eco-Drive. Moreover, on Citizen's German website it is described as new model🤔
@slamandjam22 ай бұрын
You didn't like the tsuyosa bracelet? I loved the Rolex day date style personally
@jagpapi49462 ай бұрын
I think the spacing between the links is too large. In the case of such watches, the bracelet is crucial
@tachillecremonini3872 ай бұрын
Bellissimi ❤
@andyfrizzell43522 ай бұрын
I like this one. Price drop and a blue one will do nicely
@howyduinyall7653Ай бұрын
Pure ICE blue pleeze.
@ender10772 ай бұрын
What a shame it only has an 8 series movement. Wouldn't buy it even at a low price like this. Would definitely buy one though, if it had a 9 series.
@Horologique2 ай бұрын
Yes, this beauty would have deserved the 9 series...
@howyduinyall7653Ай бұрын
9 please
@Moosefelt4 күн бұрын
@@Horologique for someone who is new to watches. Why is it so impossible to find some information when googling " Citizen 9000 series"?...
@WilliamPham-ig7qd27 күн бұрын
How would you compare this to the PRX?
@Horologique26 күн бұрын
The PRX has the better movement by far but this one has the better materials and more interesting dial. Hard call
@Mysteryboy00079 күн бұрын
i like how hes reviewing these watches when he doesnt even have them in person
@mountainhobo2 ай бұрын
Why the offset small seconds? What is the point?
@Horologique2 ай бұрын
I would have preferred a symetic design as well
@verynormalman2 ай бұрын
T4YC. I love Citizen, and I think that the price is reasonable for the movement provided, but the text "automatic" and underneath, "titanium" is not a good piece of design, for what is supposed to be a beautiful watch.
@micaljimenez73812 ай бұрын
Seiko have to be realy afraid by citizen strategy,a lot of new design and model nice,afordable,good job
@Horologique2 ай бұрын
Totally agree
@user-iv9pv1kt9zАй бұрын
38mm 欲しいに同感です。パワーリザーブもtuyosaの60時間がいいのに…
@thomasstratford62272 ай бұрын
Titanium on the commodities market is going for about $16 a pound….just saying! The watch scams continue unabated!
@enescatal12 ай бұрын
With that price, it kills only itself :D :D
@Logicalillusion2 ай бұрын
So your making a video based on article someone else wrote already? How far is this from adding value?
@thebitterfig99032 ай бұрын
I just really don’t like offset small seconds complications. I like it at the 6, can maybe accept it elsewhere on a chronograph, but at the 5 for no reason? I just really hate it. I get why someone would like this, and love that for them, but not even close for me.
@philliprackow71532 ай бұрын
Why would they release this so close to the new Tsuyosa? About the price: These are standard Citizen prices. They always come down after a year, my Barnacle diver for example had a suggested Retail-Price of around 900 euros or dollars depending on your currency on release. Bulova belonging to Citizen also had their fairly recent GMT-Release at 1200 at the start, now you can get them between 650 to 780. I wanted to get the blue dial Tsuyosa but am currently waiting on Jody's (From Just One More Watch) new Erebus to see if I wouldn't prefer that as the Blue-Dial piece I wanna buy next.
@Horologique2 ай бұрын
Thank you for your input. As for the Erebus I'll have the chance of reviewing that pretty soon, stay tuned if you want to see it 😁
@jagpapi49462 ай бұрын
Will this Erbus be an integrated bracelet or is it known?
@philliprackow71532 ай бұрын
@@jagpapi4946 it won't be. From what i can see on the pictures it will be offered on a jubilee and an oyster-style bracelet.
@turneradam22 ай бұрын
citizen is coming for the crown
@pmajois2 ай бұрын
Pourriez- pas refaire cette vidéo en french? ou la traduire en sous titre??? merci
@Horologique2 ай бұрын
Bonjour! Elle sort bientôt en Français courant semaine prochaine 😁
@alexschmitt-gk3fx2 ай бұрын
Superbe vidéo. Pensez aux français😊
@Horologique2 ай бұрын
Merci ! Ça arrive 😁
@IgorGjurovski2 ай бұрын
100 euro more than I would pay...
@mustangx218Ай бұрын
Why are they only releasing these in Europe? You can't even get them in Japan.
@Tom_Kowalczuk2 ай бұрын
And it lost all it's charm by moving crown to 3 (imho only!). My watches are mostly (except couple of vintage ones) with crown at 4 o'clock and I really prefers it this way.
@DaFox132 ай бұрын
Does it Hack and Hand Wind?
@Horologique2 ай бұрын
Yes of course 😊
@rostam792 ай бұрын
Why is the second dial so ugly
@royleow2 ай бұрын
Nope not really excited for this. The case could have been made smaller to achieve the smaller lug to lug and the central seconds should be in the centre as well.
@iwantshinythings2 ай бұрын
Wait a couple months and they will be 250
@TheGaztela2 ай бұрын
Bajará de precio
@Horologique2 ай бұрын
🤞
@GEMSofGOD_com2 ай бұрын
Tsuyosa meh. This one's seriously alright tho.
@jk819029 күн бұрын
Titanium bracelet and case = scratches Small second + date = can't be dressed up. Tsuyosa is way more GADA than this one and some colorways are good for dress up.
@watchalot9192 ай бұрын
Far too expensive. A very cheap movement, and the bracelet+clasp also look cheap. There are microbrands on the market so much nicer for less
@deanivan3951Ай бұрын
The Citizen Tsuyosa dial colours are much more beautiful than these
@Zonediver2 ай бұрын
...the "real" Tsuyosa-Killer is the NB1050 - nothing else...
@vincedelapena2 ай бұрын
I would prefer around 36mm but would take one at 38mm. And that’s coming from guy with 7.5” wrist.
@anthonywhitney634Ай бұрын
I think it looks fantastic, Ice Blue the stand-out for me. 40mm is a good size in my opinion. I also think an applied logo would have looked much more luxurious.