Wow that is such a perfect answer. I need to steal that line.

Wow. Hitch is still amazing me.

@@dataexpunged6969 as a Christian, I nearly deconverted from my faith countless times, and did a few times, but I always reverted, because I couldn't find a good reason not to believe in God

@@borrburison648 Well then that's good for you, but questioning (in my personal opinion) means looking at the facts. If you keep going back because of emotions and not hard facts then that's good too, but most people try to rationalise it, even when there's no rationality to be found in their arguments.

@@borrburison648 One doesn’t look for reasons not to believe that something exists, and failing, decide the thing exists. Look rather for reasons to believe, and evaluate them.

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rq94gNF1l6yolY0.html My ONLY focus is upon the intransigent questions: 1)"How is there something instead of nothing?" Robert Lawrence Kuhn's 'ineradicable, insuperable question'. Thermodynamics disallows a universe from cold(nothing)--1st LAW....and disallows an eternal universe--2nd LAW (stipulates a universe of heat distributing to cold; THIS ONE HAS NOT). 2) And OF COURSE, "Life from non-life". The link above has ACTUAL ACCOMPLISHED biologists, Venter/Hartwell/Altman ALL saying "it's IMPOSSIBLE humans will EVER know the origin of life". And DAWKINS sits mute/deaf/ignorant..NO RESPONSE! 'CAUSE HE AIN'T GOTSHITTTT

He is NOT interested in learning! He is interested in pretending he is. So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gM99pN1_xL-3iIk.html The odds are NOT there. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jZePfqiHxqndkXU.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r71pmsSo38Cwo58.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/msqRpLam2dqZkas.html

A GodLess and Souless as a robot ask what God was able to do? He got replied anything, like in the Old Testament. You will die one day and you will face it, you will not be Nothing.. God denier, God does not need you, if you believe in him good if you do not you will face him, what happen will be between you and him, he will ask you, not now, then why you denied and you will be like a smart GODLESS person... They thing they come from nothing 😂😂😂h

"I respect Alex more than most Christians" - Me, a quaker who came for the oatmeal but stayed for the faith.

@@GameShamus what? Are you a GodLess and Souless person to???.

Christianity began as sun worship, the stories about Jesus are symbolic. He is just a personification of the sun, made into a god figure later on. The sun "dies" for 3 days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north. In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin" The sun rising in the morning is "the saviour of mankind" The sun is "The light of the World" The sun "walks on water" is just the reflection of the sun on water/the sea. "He cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him", is just sun rays. Jesus' "crown of thorns" is just the sun's glare, also know as a halo. The sun's "followers", "helpers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass. The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the "Most High": thus.."he" begins "his Father's work" at "age" 12. The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30 degrees, hense, the "Sun of God" begins his ministry at "age" 30. The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified", which represents its passing through the equinoxes. The vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected. The reason why saviour myths are so similar with a godman who is crucified and resurrected, who does miracles and has 12 disciples, is that these stories were based on the movements of the sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the planet, because the sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe. In other words, Jesus Christ and all the others upon whom this character is predicated are personifications of the sun, and the Gospel fable is merely a rehash of a mythological formula revolving around the movements of the sun through the heavens.

@@Gamefan86 Interesting. Citation?

​@@multismashify he is copy-paste bot not going to reply to you

I am also a catholic and I also appreaciate Alex’s debates. I pray that God shows him His grace.

@@lorenlacerda4711 see ? that's the kind of sanctimonious bollocks that really angers me about religious people especially Catholics .

Nobody's perfect

haha me too

@@peterp-a-n4743 especially not atheists

@@borrburison648 Says the masochist lol.

@@borrburison648 Ad Hominem / Tu Quoque ...look it up...educate and elevate yourself...

My experience was similar. For me I had 2 very tragic deaths in my family, my cousin died at 17 of cancer and my grandmother died of cancer at age 58. Both were the same year (1993) and I was 13. When I list them I continued to believe I would see them again in a happy place known as Heaven. It's what helped me overcome this grief I felt. But at the end of the day I found this lack of evidence. When I finally made the step to be an atheist I had to admit I was not ever going to see them again. I was depressed, it was as if they had died once again, I grieved once more, and I finally said my goodbyes and felt with it. As for emotional support and community, I don't see why I would go to a church for this. I am a member of a number of organisations, just people sharing similar interests, I honestly do not know the religious beliefs (or lack of) of the members, there is no need. We are just humans who bond together for a common cause. A church has a common cause, but if you are not part of that cause why would you want to attend?

Don't do the suicide route. God gave you life and don't let anyone take it from you. Cosmic is a joke. You need to start thinking yourself. Wake up! So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gM99pN1_xL-3iIk.html The odds are NOT there. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jZePfqiHxqndkXU.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r71pmsSo38Cwo58.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/msqRpLam2dqZkas.html

I’m an agnostic but I attend a church because it gives me hope and inspiration to see people who believe genuinely love and believe in a world where justice is innate and everyone down to the most downtrodden will see the justice they don’t on Earth. Secular organizations have never been as good at that in my experience. They’ve never felt as welcoming or hopeful.

Did you just join the church as in you go there and hang out every sunday or did you actually become a christian?

@@GoldenMechaTiger be happy she is on her faith journey. One step at a time. Not every Christian at church is a true believer.

Seen 'GOP vs Queer' by 'Some More News'?

If he became a Christian his whole audience would turn on him and persecute him

There is no loving atheists all his comment sections are bitter angry people

Not necessarily, some definitely would, but probably not everyone, they probably would expect a very well articulated rationale though.

@@timothylanger2999 no. Look what happened to steven bancarz and J warner wallace and alister mcgrath. Its always the same.

Really? Because, as somebody who has been in my fair share of failed relationships, I can say without hesitation: that's a *terrible* reason to get back together. You left for good reason. If that reason hasn't changed, go find something/somebody else to fill the need.

@Kyanide I see nothing in the comment that says or even implies that. He just clarifies what most people mean by the question.

If I asked that question, I wouldn't be asking either. I would be asking if you ever have a emotional desire to revert and I would want to know why to get a better idea of what your biases are.

Not necessarily. Belief is about truth, not emotion. Faith may be more emotional but belief in it's purest form is only about truth. As an atheist for 54 years, all i wanted to know was the truth. Had I wanted a god which I did NOT! the very last one I would've chosen would've Jesus. I was raised as an atheist Jew. Jesus was NOT the Messiah as I was taught. Anyway, thought Him fictional. That's how out of touch I was with the facts! 😂 But I had to set aside my pre-existing bias as an atheist and dig into the research using the scientific method. I just followed the truth. I let it lead me. And Yeshua actually IS The Messiah. I didn't want it to be true. I hated that it was true. Truth is very offended sometimes. But Truth doesn't require my approval. It's true regardless of what I think or believe.

@@pdxnikki1 If you actually had scientific proof that Jesus was the messiah, you'd be famous, not posting fatuous KZfaq comments…

You said it!

LOL, as a person who's deliberately gone to church maybe 3 times (and all because of a spouse, and one of those times was to get married) I can't think of anything those people could do or say to entice me to waste an afternoon with their soulless navel-gazing. Ugh.

That is the dishonesty of religion

I'm Scottish and I am a member of the Church of Scotland declining to go to church service would not be a problem. It's up to everyone to chose whether to go or not

I don't got to church but I'm not braindead like Cosmic. So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gM99pN1_xL-3iIk.html The odds are NOT there. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jZePfqiHxqndkXU.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r71pmsSo38Cwo58.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/msqRpLam2dqZkas.html

I find saying "praying for you" to an Atheist to be something really offensive. It's a dick move.

@@Soapy-chan_old Why is that?

@@bjeol Because we don't believe in prayer and it will not work and by saying you pray for us you push your beliefs unto us without acknowledging that we dont believe in it.

@@Soapy-chan_old Gotcha. It seems that Alex is open to becoming a Christina again, so maybe he wouldn’t be offended by my prayers on his behalf? Alex says that he would genuinely like to experience the love of God, and I would like that for him as well. Not trying to be condescending or forceful.

@@bjeol Well ok, sorry if I might have been too hostile. In this case I can understand it, but most people even if not trying to be condescending don't realise that it is a bad move for someone who rejects their ideas. I don't think they and probably you would like it if I'd say I pray to allah that you come to see the truth.

Cosmic is just a dolt easy to crush. So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gM99pN1_xL-3iIk.html The odds are NOT there. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jZePfqiHxqndkXU.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r71pmsSo38Cwo58.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/msqRpLam2dqZkas.html

hey! i need help with that which videos do u reccommend about new age specifically. im going nuts ngl i keep seeing angel numbers everywhere but im an atheist.. so what the hell

Then follow this F00L and when you're judged by God for being a F00L, Cosmic can't help you. So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gM99pN1_xL-3iIk.html The odds are NOT there. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jZePfqiHxqndkXU.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r71pmsSo38Cwo58.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/msqRpLam2dqZkas.html

@Factual History Of British Raj & BEIC no one knows fully 100% yet or never ,who knows😕

Aliens silly? Poppycock!

O nao há razoes para um ateu, seu ateismo procede do coração.

Near death experience have no value at all, it all happens in the brain. No Hindu has ever met Jesus, only Catholics see the Virgen Mary.

I'm sorry to disappoint you but… the near death experience are not so greatest as you think. I many things and Watch many video about that. The only explanation is that during in that phase, your brain releases some substance that gives you that feeling of awe, or something else.

@@robertomondello2447 Not disappointed.

There's some weird stories out there of people hearing conversations as they're dying across the entire hospital which they couldn't have heard. Makes you wonder for sure!

@@poopslappa1661 Yes, things like that!

Then the question becomes, what do you think happens if Alex truly does find God... but it turns out to be Jupiter Optimus Maximus, Brahma, Allah, or the Buddha? Even if he finds YHWH, what do you think happens if he concludes that Judism, Gnosticism, or some other heretical sect (from a Catholic perspective) of Christianity is the correct interpretation of YHWH? I can't understand how any genuine person of faith wouldn't conclude that forcing their religion upon everyone else at gunpoint is the most moral thing they could possibly do. If you literally believe the fate of immortal souls is contingent upon faith in Catholism then why aren't you guys trying to crusade everyone anymore? At least that idea made sense. This new milquetoast Christianity is boring.

​@@I-am-Hrut well i personally would feel a bit sorry for him for not finding Gods love but at the end of the day its his choice to make and i personally dont think its ever too late to repent even after death i believe its up to your soul its not an opinion you have to share. And for the crusades well forcing religion with violence completely goes against our beliefes so no that idea made no sense and was a horrible event in history, we as christians want as much people to hear Gods word and if they dont want to hear it or dont want to agree we're not dictators to force them

@@antesosic1755 “Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. And a person's enemies will be those of his own household." (Matthew 10:34-36). “Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we wrestle not against the flesh and blood… Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness, and your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace…taking the shield of faith…and take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the spirit, which is the word of God.” (Eph 6:11-17) “Cursed is he who keeps back his sword from bloodshed.” (Jer 48:10) There are clearly plenty of interpretations of scripture that were used to justify atrocities like Crusades. At least do yourself the favor of acknowledging what the Biblical authors wrote and what genuine, ordinary Christians believed in days gone by. I'll reiterate my point. If you genuinely believe that Catholicism would save my immortal soul from an eternity of suffering then you should want to do everything within your power (up to, including, and beyond terrorism) to convert me. The old Catholic Church didn't give a damn about false converts so long as they went through the motions. Even if that's all I'll ever be able to do, you should desprately want to force me to do it for my own good so I end up in a less-horrible circle of hell. If you genuinely believe this stuff then your own soul be damned, logically you should want to deliver as many believers to the pearly gates asap just in case they deconvert later on. There are so many conventionally terrible things you ought to do if you genuinely believed in this ideology.

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Hey, fellow pastafari. Our Noodleness be with thou

Yo that's my profile pic bro

The difference between the vegan video and this video is that with the vegan video he stumbled upon something that made reasonable sense. The closest reasonable sense Christianity makes is in pascal's wager. Personal experiences and feelings aren't something you can reason yourself to, even though those are the things are the most powerful reasons people have been convinced of Christianity. Using this to reason that Christianity is true is valid, just not sound because the reasons themselves aren't reasonable.

This channel is brilliant and I’d like to put a suggestion up for cosmic skeptic to review the work or debunk the work of Richard Weikart a passionate creationist who I’m my opinion needs debunking

No, he's a doofus. So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gM99pN1_xL-3iIk.html The odds are NOT there. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jZePfqiHxqndkXU.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r71pmsSo38Cwo58.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/msqRpLam2dqZkas.html

As a Christian, I entirely agree.

You should be inspired by the truth. Not eloquent defense of falsehood.

@@Jerry-zz2eu I don't think it's immoral to be impressed by a speaker. And of course, it's not falsehood...

@@JCW7100 Atheism is a falsehood, and it's not immoral, just meaningless.

Christianity began as sun worship, the stories about Jesus are symbolic. He is just a personification of the sun, made into a god figure later on. The sun "dies" for 3 days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north. In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin" The sun rising in the morning is "the saviour of mankind" The sun is "The light of the World" The sun "walks on water" is just the reflection of the sun on water/the sea. "He cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him", is just sun rays. Jesus' "crown of thorns" is just the sun's glare, also know as a halo. The sun's "followers", "helpers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass. The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the "Most High": thus.."he" begins "his Father's work" at "age" 12. The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30 degrees, hense, the "Sun of God" begins his ministry at "age" 30. The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified", which represents its passing through the equinoxes. The vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected. The reason why saviour myths are so similar with a godman who is crucified and resurrected, who does miracles and has 12 disciples, is that these stories were based on the movements of the sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the planet, because the sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe. In other words, Jesus Christ and all the others upon whom this character is predicated are personifications of the sun, and the Gospel fable is merely a rehash of a mythological formula revolving around the movements of the sun through the heavens.

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@@Gamefan86 you're funny. Lol.

No, he's a liar who fakes as if he cares about truth. So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gM99pN1_xL-3iIk.html The odds are NOT there. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jZePfqiHxqndkXU.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r71pmsSo38Cwo58.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/msqRpLam2dqZkas.html

@@Gamefan86 😂Nice, joke😂

You can listen to his lies as much as you like. So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gM99pN1_xL-3iIk.html The odds are NOT there. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jZePfqiHxqndkXU.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r71pmsSo38Cwo58.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/msqRpLam2dqZkas.html

Allah created evils to Test us

Nonbelievers don’t go to Hell, one of the parables of Christ is that he descends to Hades to save all the righteous is it not?

Catholics made hell up..limbo wasn't enough to get the cash🤣🤣🥰 I do btw pray and believe in something.. God knows what though

@@bellumthirio139 No it's not a parable. The idea that Christ descends to the underworld to preach to souls is a later story. This statement that Jesus descended into hell is believed to have been added later, around AD 390 and is in the Apostles creed, not the Bible.

@@houghton841 google says it has its origin in scripture, and interpolates the moment between Jesus’s crucifixion and resurrection

I agree. Putting this kind of effort into Christianity is a non starter unless you plan to devote the same effort into the other 4000 religions. Unless there is some evidence that already presupposes that Christianity is more likely true.

there are many religions, but like 99% of them are polytheistic like Hinduism, Greco-Roman pantheon, Norse mythology etc. right of the bat they are rejected, then there are non-theistic religions like Buddhism which if one believes God exists they are false also, then there are religions that even though they are monotheistic they are ethno religions like Sikhism and Judaism, so they are irrelevant to us, the real choice is really between Islam and Christianity

Also they don't understand that there are thousands of different christian sects and it doesnt make sense to just randomly select one of them because someone of that particular one asked you to.

This was something I went through during my deconversion as well. Like, before I left my original faith I had just written every other one off as untrue, but could I really do that if I now thought my old faith was also untrue? How many religions would I need to cycle through to find the truth? Frankly, shouldn’t it also be maybe a little easier than that to come to a conclusion about which, if any, are true? It would be paralyzing to go through everything in its entirety in the way the followers say you ought to do it to really experience the religion. In a way, it all circles back to the divine hiddenness argument albeit with some adjustments. If there is a god that wants me to know it exists, it would make it at least somewhat clear. Maybe a deity does exist and doesn’t want me to know. I’m either case, I can’t possibly worship or believe in something that isn’t demonstrated, nor could I do so with something I can’t find. When so many millions of people think they already know the answer, they can’t all be completely right, but they could all be somewhat or completely wrong. Better to withhold belief than to believe a false thing.

@Kiki Kiki Well, that's just wrong.

Sometimes these things happen when people are intellectually honest, and actually care about the truth.

@@jamienorth8028 Or in the case that Alex becomes christian, "what he thinks to be the truth."

@@jamienorth8028 Being intellectually honest and caring about the truth is what got me out of Christianity. I absolutely can't see those things leading to Christianity. Edit: or any religion for that matter

@@MindoftheNorthStar and additionally intellectually consistent. How much evidence would you need that the home you bought is worth the price, and that there's nothing wrong with it? Would you just take the seller's word for it? Would you hire someone to scrutinize every detail so you can be 100% sure? Then why accept the fate of your soul based on a few parables? Is it less important than your house?

It stands to reason SOME well-known atheist / skeptic of the KZfaq age will eventually convert / revert. Just a numbers game. And, like Christian charlatans, it’s also likely one already has but must perpetuate a lie in public, in the interest of salvaging social circles and their primary income source. The only thing believers and nonbelievers will always have in common, if they’re being honest, is that whisper of doubt.

If you think about it, you are having the same problem as every religious zealot. Why are you so eager to become a follower? Poor Father Alex, his flock is so demanding and give him nothing in return

@@octem2251 While I am a subscriber and admirer of Cosmic Skeptic I am not a follower of Alex like a Religious zealot in any sense. I follow no flock. Alex doesn't dictate how I should live my life, what I can wear, etc. And I feel free to disagree with Alex when I do

He's not honest. He's a F00L. So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gM99pN1_xL-3iIk.html The odds are NOT there. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jZePfqiHxqndkXU.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r71pmsSo38Cwo58.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/msqRpLam2dqZkas.html

Never leave a rock unturned in search for the Truth. Give every ideology the the benefit of doubt. If nothing else perhaps you gain intellectual benefits.

C. B. Hanna and Jake have a series on the Quran. I find it much easier to digest when someone else is reading and discussing it.

@@YMe-hp7hi It's not about that. It's just that people tackling the Quran have a reputation of not being alive afterwards 💀

Why do you dolts love to pretend you look for truth? So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gM99pN1_xL-3iIk.html The odds are NOT there. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jZePfqiHxqndkXU.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r71pmsSo38Cwo58.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/msqRpLam2dqZkas.html

@Kiki Kiki it's ironic that you state "The OPs head will be fine" when you can't even use the correct form of "your." You even misspelled LOL.

Can I ask what the problem with naturalism is in your view?

Cosmic is a fake. So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gM99pN1_xL-3iIk.html The odds are NOT there. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jZePfqiHxqndkXU.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r71pmsSo38Cwo58.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/msqRpLam2dqZkas.html

I think Alex did also read their works in university Real Atheology and Alex should definitely collab please request Alex for a collaboration

He's a F00L pretending to look for truth. So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gM99pN1_xL-3iIk.html The odds are NOT there. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jZePfqiHxqndkXU.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r71pmsSo38Cwo58.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/msqRpLam2dqZkas.html

Absolutely feel you here homie! It completely loses its mystique once you realize it isn’t actually anything special. It just happens to be the big 3, but there are thousands of others

You never where in the faith in the first place and if you are your in the faith till the end and Jesus is the only way to heaven

@@raquanwilliams5572 yeah, you braindead people can relate. How sweet. So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gM99pN1_xL-3iIk.html The odds are NOT there. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jZePfqiHxqndkXU.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r71pmsSo38Cwo58.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/msqRpLam2dqZkas.html

Education is key. 👍🏻

No offence, but this says nothing about the veracity of any religion, view, or belief for that matter. If any of us were raised in a different way and developped a different personality, our views would probably have been different. But this says nothing about the veracity of our views. If anything, it only speaks of how we got there.

As if this joke cares about evidence. So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gM99pN1_xL-3iIk.html The odds are NOT there. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jZePfqiHxqndkXU.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r71pmsSo38Cwo58.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/msqRpLam2dqZkas.html

He's not being honest. How stooo-pid can you be?! So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gM99pN1_xL-3iIk.html The odds are NOT there. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jZePfqiHxqndkXU.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r71pmsSo38Cwo58.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/msqRpLam2dqZkas.html

When people bring a child into the world, it is most likely that he will end up being condemned to hell, which is established in the bible in Matthew 7: 13-14. “13 You can only enter the kingdom of God through the narrow gate, for wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to hell; That is why many people prefer them. 14 But small is the gate and narrow is the way that leads to life, and very few people find it." There is no way that as mere humans we can guarantee that if we have children they will go to heaven, so we will be responsible for allowing them to come into the world and then their future eternal torture in hell and damnation. Even those who try to search cannot because Satan, other evil religions, the world and the flesh itself are doing everything possible to condemn them to hell for eternity from the moment they are born. James 1:14-15 1 "14 But each one is tempted, when he is drawn away and enticed by his own lust. 15 Then lust, after it has conceived, gives birth to sin; and sin, being finished, gives birth to to light death. John 2:16: “men alienated from God governed by their passions, by the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes and by the pride of life” Luke 13:23-24. 23 Someone asked him, "Lord, are there few who are saved?" And he replied, 24 “Do your best to enter through the narrow gate, because I tell you that many will try to enter and will not be able to do so. Now if we as humans deal with this truth here on earth, and we are aware that except for terrible cases of abuse, every other conception and life that comes into the world is consensual in the intimate act, we cannot say that nobody forced us to bring children into the world, it was we ourselves who brought them into the world and if they end up being condemned, we would be part of that process since we could choose not to become intimate in the flesh, either in sin or within marriage. Being an omniscient God, that is to say, he has perfect wisdom and knowledge of what is going to happen and even despite knowing that most of the population was going to be condemned to hell, he allowed existence to continue even when he could have avoided all the pain and suffering of hell for the majority of his creation. First with Adam and Eve knowing that they were going to eat the forbidden fruit and then with Noah exterminating the world through the flood and saving his life and his family. Genesis 2:16-17 “16 Then the LORD God commanded the man, “You may freely eat from any tree in the garden, 17 but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for on the day you do, you will surely die.” Genesis 6:7 “7 Then the LORD said, “I will wipe the human being whom I have created from the face of the earth. I will destroy human beings, domestic animals, those that crawl on the ground and the birds of the sky because I am sorry I made them.” are you forced to bring children to the world? n

Can confirm this being the best argument. Brought it up to an apologetics livestreamer on Tiktok once and they spent like 20 minutes talking in circles and not committing to agreeing with 100% reasonable statements... all so that they could maintain their God's goodness in the face of (possibly) honest non-belief.

Atheistic types are not honest. They're plain stooo-pid by their choice. The bible makes it clear Jesus is the only way to salvation. You can laugh at that all you want and throw out the bible as if it's a joke, but the joke will be on them. Romans 1:20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities-his eternal power and divine nature-have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse. Psalms 14:1 "The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good." kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hrllldh40666iqs.html Hell is not eternal... kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bZiVfcij3ti1lX0.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/eZ2To8-Bks2Wpmw.html So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gM99pN1_xL-3iIk.html The odds are NOT there. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jZePfqiHxqndkXU.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r71pmsSo38Cwo58.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/msqRpLam2dqZkas.html

Islam actually has a answer to this. Any honest attempt to look for God counts as faith. some Christian denominations say similar things. They have to ignore the Bible to do it, though, which is the bane of progressive Christianity in general. (for the record, I'm an atheist. I was raised Christian but it never took. I never bought it even as a little kid).

I found the answer to this question In Jeremiah 29:12-13 "in those days when you pray, I will listen. If you look for me wholeheartedly, you will find me." I think the issue is that people who seek God and don't find him are not seeking wholeheartedly. If you are seeking until you tire of it then you aren't truly devoting your life to finding God. Your just looking until it's inconvenient, which is not a wholehearted search. Also, lets say you wanted to get to know someone but you weren't on good terms with them. Does that make any sense at all? You need to believe God is real and sent Jesus to save us from our sins and ask him to forgive our sins. Then you are right with God. This is when the relationship really starts and when you can start finding God.

@@zero8388 So would you say there are no non-believers that have sought God whole-heartedly as long as they lived? For example, if Alex had walked out of that debate and (god forbid) was hit by a truck and died, what should his judgement be?

Austin does have good places like that. Cosmic though is still a dolt. So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gM99pN1_xL-3iIk.html The odds are NOT there. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jZePfqiHxqndkXU.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r71pmsSo38Cwo58.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/msqRpLam2dqZkas.html

same I'm a Muslim and i actually met him once

I'd also recommend Genetically Modified Skeptic!

Christianity began as sun worship, the stories about Jesus are symbolic. He is just a personification of the sun, made into a god figure later on. The sun "dies" for 3 days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north. In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin" The sun rising in the morning is "the saviour of mankind" The sun is "The light of the World" The sun "walks on water" is just the reflection of the sun on water/the sea. "He cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him", is just sun rays. Jesus' "crown of thorns" is just the sun's glare, also know as a halo. The sun's "followers", "helpers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass. The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the "Most High": thus.."he" begins "his Father's work" at "age" 12. The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30 degrees, hense, the "Sun of God" begins his ministry at "age" 30. The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified", which represents its passing through the equinoxes. The vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected. The reason why saviour myths are so similar with a godman who is crucified and resurrected, who does miracles and has 12 disciples, is that these stories were based on the movements of the sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the planet, because the sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe. In other words, Jesus Christ and all the others upon whom this character is predicated are personifications of the sun, and the Gospel fable is merely a rehash of a mythological formula revolving around the movements of the sun through the heavens.

@@badreddinedjouamaa5555 when? Oxford?

@@senkuishigami2485 Nope , in Houstan it was a year ago

@@fed3903 you'd have to be dumber? What a stuck up view. Theology doesn't determine intelligence

Wow, a non judgemental christian - a rarity in these debates 👍

@@fed3903 I was raised agnostic/atheist (very anti-Abrahamic religions) and I am a very religious Christian nowadays. It did take time and there was a lot of emotional resistance before I converted, but it was probably the best thing that ever happened to me.

@@emilia9756 What made you believe in Yaweh?

@@emilia9756 I would also like to hear

Why do you thank this liar? What a joke you are being chummy with someone who clearly does care about people enough to be honest. So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gM99pN1_xL-3iIk.html The odds are NOT there. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jZePfqiHxqndkXU.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r71pmsSo38Cwo58.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/msqRpLam2dqZkas.html

There are demonic forces trying to influence you and because you’re focused on what to eat, you are being led astray. Listen to me carefully. Or Him, at least. “Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment?” ‭‭Matthew‬ ‭6:25‬ ‭KJV‬‬ Have you never read Paul’s letters? The man possessed with The Holy Spirit? Chosen by Christ Himself to preach the gospel? Listen to him also. “Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.” ‭‭1 Timothy‬ ‭4:1-3‬ ‭KJV‬‬ Read that passage. Then read it again. If it doesn’t sink in the second time, read it a third time. Now, I’m not judging you. I do know this though, what you are being taught is a thing taught by demons to try and pull you away from your brethren. I know, because my girlfriend was a vegan, how vegans view non-vegans deep down. They view them as selfish, cruel and insensitive because “it is entirely possible to sustain life without meat in 2022, why needlessly *murder*? (wrong use of the word but they use it anyway to evoke sympathy as one would feel with the death of humans, reducing the value of a human to that of the beasts. It’s demonic, remember?) WITH THAT BEING SAID… The following is another passage from Paul’s letters regarding eating. “Be willing to accept those who still have doubts about what believers can do. And don’t argue with them about their different ideas. Some people believe they can eat any kind of food, but those who have doubts eat only vegetables. Those who know they can eat any kind of food must not feel that they are better than those who eat only vegetables. And those who eat only vegetables must not decide that those who eat all foods are wrong. God has accepted them. You cannot judge the servants of someone else. Their own master decides if they are doing right or wrong. And the Lord’s servants will be right, because the Lord is able to make them right.” ‭‭Romans‬ ‭14:1-4‬ ‭ It also tells me not to judge those who only eat vegetables, I am not judging them, I am only pointing out what was taught to be acceptable by The Lord. It is, abundantly, the vegans that judge the non-vegans. Whenever arguing with a vegan about why it’s morally acceptable to eat meat, I go to the source of all morality, God Himself and what he has deemed acceptable. God made it abundantly clear to Noah. “Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things.” ‭‭Genesis‬ ‭9:3‬ ‭KJV‬‬ Watch out for all their arguments against meat. Know that they have little faith.. or none, as Alex O’Connor. Though he is seemingly very wise. “Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise. For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness. And again, The Lord knoweth the thoughts of the wise, that they are vain. Therefore let no man glory in men. For all things are yours; whether Paul, or Apollos, or Cephas, or the world, or life, or death, or things present, or things to come; all are your's; and ye are Christ's; and Christ is God's.” ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭3:18-23‬ ‭ “For all things are yours” And in the verse from genesis before that passage. “Even as the green herb Have I given you all things” As for Alex, I too admired him when I was an unbeliever. Pray for him. He is proud. God resists the proud, pray that he becomes humble, though he presents himself as open to conversion, he thinks he knows everything there is to know concerning God. “And if any man think that he knoweth any thing, he knoweth nothing yet as he ought to know.” ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭8:2‬ ‭ Be careful not to admire him while being a believer, as you claim to be. He is doing nobody any favours, he is deceiving himself and others. A blind guide leading the blind into a pit. See the people in his comments, no offence. “Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: for he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.” ‭‭2 John‬ ‭1:9-11‬ ‭KJV‬‬ Have a good day and may God be the one to guide you. I pray His Spirit leads you into paths of righteousness all the days of your life and that Satan never leads you astray. Amen.

He's just a liar that fooled you. So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gM99pN1_xL-3iIk.html The odds are NOT there. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jZePfqiHxqndkXU.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r71pmsSo38Cwo58.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/msqRpLam2dqZkas.html

The church-god relationship is exactly that of a battered wife and her husband. Christians constantly try to come up with excuses for tgeir abusive god.

Eh... no abusive spouse went on a cross for someone else.

It's just stupid, no offense

The evidence for the existence of God is everywhere around you if only you look within thouself.

@@Ali_0h I'm calling bullshit...

I couldn't/wouldn't be a Christian, there are too many counterfactuals for the existence of any deity and that one as described is an abomination.

Christianity is not about comfort lol

@@gerila1285 yep that's one of the most insipid standard atheist projections; that's all they can get out of spirituality as an idea, therefore that's what it's about. It's right there in the Christian story at the important part, you don't have to look far - Jesus says on the cross 'father, why have you forsaken me?' and is left to die. Where exactly is the 'comfort' in that?

As if this joke can debate. What a laugh. So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gM99pN1_xL-3iIk.html The odds are NOT there. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jZePfqiHxqndkXU.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r71pmsSo38Cwo58.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/msqRpLam2dqZkas.html

No, he's really that stooo-pid. So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gM99pN1_xL-3iIk.html The odds are NOT there. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jZePfqiHxqndkXU.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r71pmsSo38Cwo58.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/msqRpLam2dqZkas.html

Why does it have to be a logical thing? If you feel it and it helps you live better, is that not all that matters?

Exactly! Believers have convinced themselves a god exists. All this holy spirit nonsensethat comes with it is ridiculous and the seek and ye shall find is a strange one. Why does it all have to be so cryptic with god. Physical demonstrable evidence is what I want, not an argument that a god exists. When these miracle healers pray to god for an amputees limb to suddenly appear and it does I may think there is something there. The next thing is to prove a god was responsible for it. God is man made and the fact that billions dont think so absolutely baffles me!

@@samtheman7860 Feelings can be very deceiving. Even if i felt it, i would have no way to tell if i'm truly feeling it or if i just convinced myself that i'm feeling it. But that's just how i see it. If other people are convinced by that feeling, more power to them.

@@madnessoverload7824 I also hold that mindset. Delusions are a thing, hence why i’m not interested in purely going with my feelings.

@@madnessoverload7824 so you never trust your feelings? How far do you take that skepticism? You should read about the Christian mystics for more clarity on this.

I think “you get to spend your life connected with God or you don’t” would be a more accurate view.

As a Christian, I think the version of Chrisitanity you're presenting is ridiculously dumb too.

@@MrWoaaaaah what about it have you found dumb?

@@MrWoaaaaah You are either being brought back into union with God, loving him, or you aren’t. What would you suppose?

I would say that most Christians I know also think that worldview is dumb

He's not seeking, he only lies that he is. So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gM99pN1_xL-3iIk.html The odds are NOT there. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jZePfqiHxqndkXU.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r71pmsSo38Cwo58.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/msqRpLam2dqZkas.html

He just pretends to be looking. So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gM99pN1_xL-3iIk.html The odds are NOT there. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jZePfqiHxqndkXU.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r71pmsSo38Cwo58.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/msqRpLam2dqZkas.html

Great content?! So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gM99pN1_xL-3iIk.html The odds are NOT there. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jZePfqiHxqndkXU.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r71pmsSo38Cwo58.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/msqRpLam2dqZkas.html

​@@2fast2block So your argument sounds like: science right now can't explain everything, therefore god. Consider this: Before you can even try to give god as an answer, you must proof that the answer is possible. Unless you've proven the supernatural to be real, you can't assume it to be a solution to the problem. Even if you were to prove the supernatural in general is a real thing, you'd have to prove that supernatural gods are a real thing and on top of that, that a god did it and finally which one - if you'd claim a certain god did it ofc. Or to put it into an analogy: If you investigate a murder and have a hunch that the murderer was my pink dotted unicorn, you first need to proof that fairytale animals exist (as right now, we don't have any proof for that), then you'd need to proof for unicorns existence (because proofing that e.g. fairies exist is nice, but not really the task) and then proof that there are pink dotted unicorns among the unicorns, and finally that it was mine who did it. Until you've not done any of the above, it's just you having a hunch.

@@Listoric "So your argument sounds like: science right now can't explain everything, therefore god." Your lie does not change the science I gave and what it proves. "Unless you've proven the supernatural to be real, you can't assume it to be a solution to the problem." I did prove it to be real. You ignoring it does not change that. "Even if you were to prove the supernatural in general is a real thing..." Look, it's clear you are ignoring what I gave. You're clearly a doofus who has nothing to tackle what I gave. You did a great job at showing that.

@Kyanide sure there is, and I'm fairly sure that Alex has agreed to that in the past. There's tons of objective evidence, it just doesn't seem to be convincing to you, or perhaps you've not been shown it, but it's there. The Kalam, the fine tuning of the universe for intelligent life, the argument from moral realism, the modal ontological argument, the many arguments from contingency, the empty tomb of Jesus, the post mortem appearances of Jesus to over 500 of his followers at once, the otherwise inexplicable conversion of Paul, the explosion of the early Christian church despite the Nero's of the ancient world, etc, etc. Again, you might not believe that God the best explanation of of these things, or that he rightly follows as logically necessary from the arguments, but to say that those aren't evidence is honestly just not true.

He's a fake. Why do you pretend too that you're looking? So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gM99pN1_xL-3iIk.html The odds are NOT there. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jZePfqiHxqndkXU.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r71pmsSo38Cwo58.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/msqRpLam2dqZkas.html

Shut up clown

It's because I met your god first. She's my little sex toy now and the atheists can't have her.

Though I get the argument, there is a difference between debating philosophical beliefs versus arguing that one finds something morally wrong, and is trying to convince others of this belief.

@@user-uu2cj9ct3j ​ @811414182梦见 Sure. There's a difference there. But he is talking, there, about: his ethic and a universal ethic that: anyone debating with Christians about really: anything at all to do with Christianity can only justify entering such a debate if they're open to joining Christianity provided that the Christian can provide a good enough reason to think Christianity is true; and merely by proving a "God" exists. So then that's always the overarching challenge and motivation for both parties; to see if the Christian can provide that. And the non-Christian must always have THAT as a reason and mindset for why they're even having any debated with Christians about literally anything that has to do with Christianity. He even phrased it in such a way that infers this applies to literally any group, with any ideology, values, practices, etc.. It's ridiculous. Even if Christianity weren't just: * a category of competing mafias, * running a common Racketeering Scheme, and * wrecking lives across the globe (with dramatically entitled impunity), * while EVERY debate that EVERY seasoned apologist enters in .. does so *in bad faith* (no pun intended), * while they habitually and premeditatedly gas light, as flying monkeys, * for a make-believe, malignantly Narcissistic mafia BOSS who "owns this town and everyone in it", * and MIGHT not have to torture and/or kill you (not necessarily in that order), if you'll quickly and fully surrender to the "moral authority" of whichever random sect happens to be pitching it, .. over every meaningful facet of your life, "or else", * and is nice enough to wait until LATER to talk about all the money and other personal sacrifices they'll be needing from you (all of which will personally benefit "the messengers" in some way), * while the progressives support the moderates, who support the extremists, ... -- -- Even if they weren't all that and worse, ... Alex's proposed Universal Ethic for all debaters, ... is among the least reasonable things I've ever heard him say. Although, he follows that up with something else equally unreasonable. He then conflates the generic of a "g/God" with the Christian "God" (a ploy he shouldn't even be letting THEM get away with; let alone doing that FOR them). And then he says he WISHES it were true, because he loves the idea of IT. And what is "it"? Being able to be wholly unethical, by evading all personal responsibility for his real AND imagined failings in life (the specific Christian Concept he was addressing), IF ONLY he really believed a "God" had arranged for that. To Hell (literally) with everyone in the world (since always) who that whole God-arrangement would unjustly screw over (and forever), if it benefits ALEX. So it's a shame, really, that he doesn't believe there is a "God", because then of course He would have THAT as his great plan for humanity.

God does not want F00LS like you and Cosmic. You are devoted to being nitwits. So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gM99pN1_xL-3iIk.html The odds are NOT there. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jZePfqiHxqndkXU.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r71pmsSo38Cwo58.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/msqRpLam2dqZkas.html

You're not looking, you like pretending you are, like Cosmic. So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gM99pN1_xL-3iIk.html The odds are NOT there. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jZePfqiHxqndkXU.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r71pmsSo38Cwo58.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/msqRpLam2dqZkas.html

Cosmic is not being honest. He's not even doing a good job pretending. So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gM99pN1_xL-3iIk.html The odds are NOT there. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jZePfqiHxqndkXU.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r71pmsSo38Cwo58.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/msqRpLam2dqZkas.html

@@2fast2block dude, you don't even need science to get around the opening chapters in Genesis. That story was never meant to be taken literally it was old Hebrew poetry. In regards to the supernatural, one does not assume it to be true unless it can be demonstrated which it has not. And the simple reality is nobody knows what preceded the big bang. Perhaps it was something supernatural, perhaps it wasn't but we have nothing to indicate thus except for demonstrably false religious texts. I am curious though how can you state that somebody is being dishonest when you do not know the person or their motivations?

@@2fast2block additionally unless you're just pulling your ideas creationist sites as opposed to peer-reviewed science there isn't such thing as a law of biogenesis. Seriously dude, do better.

@@chasekoop1122 hey nitwit, for more laughs copy and paste how you got around the science I gave and what it proved. In your devotion to being pointless, you forgot that part. Must be horrible being braindead as you are.

I know. He's a fake. So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gM99pN1_xL-3iIk.html The odds are NOT there. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jZePfqiHxqndkXU.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r71pmsSo38Cwo58.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/msqRpLam2dqZkas.html

Where in the bible did God condone slavery and homophobia? I'm pretty sure it never said that in the bible even if I bet 10 of my fingers.

And not to mention his copious mass murdering rampages; anyone who can read the bible (which should be renamed “God’s Guide to Genocide”) and not recoil in horror and revulsion at the gratuitously cruel atrocities committed or commanded by the brutal, barbaric, bloodthirsty deity therein, has suspended all pity, empathy and compassion.

@@ChickenNugget-zh9bn HOMOPHOBIA Leviticus 20:13 - If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads. SLAVERY Numbers 31:17-18 - Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man. Exodus 21:2-11- “If you buy a Hebrew servant, he is to serve you for six years. But in the seventh year, he shall go free, without paying anything. If he comes alone, he is to go free alone; but if he has a wife when he comes, she is to go with him. If his master gives him a wife and she bears him sons or daughters, the woman and her children shall belong to her master, and only the man shall go free. “But if the servant declares, ‘I love my master and my wife and children and do not want to go free,’ then his master must take him before the judges.[a] He shall take him to the door or the doorpost and pierce his ear with an awl. Then he will be his servant for life. “If a man sells his daughter as a servant, she is not to go free as male servants do. If she does not please the master who has selected her for himself, he must let her be redeemed. He has no right to sell her to foreigners, because he has broken faith with her. If he selects her for his son, he must grant her the rights of a daughter. If he marries another woman, he must not deprive the first one of her food, clothing and marital rights. If he does not provide her with these three things, she is to go free, without any payment of money. Ephesians 6:5-8- Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. Obey them not only to win their favor when their eye is on you, but as slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from your heart. Serve wholeheartedly, as if you were serving the Lord, not people, because you know that the Lord will reward each one for whatever good they do, whether they are slave or free. Hope this suffices. Keep your fingers, however; I am more merciful than the Christian god.

It's a movement of liars and F00LS. So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gM99pN1_xL-3iIk.html The odds are NOT there. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jZePfqiHxqndkXU.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r71pmsSo38Cwo58.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/msqRpLam2dqZkas.html

Still, he's braindead. So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gM99pN1_xL-3iIk.html The odds are NOT there. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jZePfqiHxqndkXU.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r71pmsSo38Cwo58.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/msqRpLam2dqZkas.html

Our ideology? Atheism isn't an ideology

what ideology?

What ideology?

What ideology?

@@costinilie8178 the ideology of atheism, which has and always will be a positivistic ideology that asserts that No God exists or can exist. "Lack of belief" is purely a rhetorical tactic used for rhetorical purposes and nothing else. There's a reason the "lack of belief" definition is not taken seriously in academe, and even the smart alecks in this comment chain rhetorically asking "what ideology?" do not earnestly "lack a belief" because if they did, they would not have considered the positions or even be involved in the conversation in the first place. Good on you OP for acknowledging that atheism is an ideology. Alex is a solid proponent and defender of the ideology of atheism, I will agree with you there. Happy Saturday.

Yeah, maybe Cosmic can tell you how much of a fake he is in person. So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gM99pN1_xL-3iIk.html The odds are NOT there. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jZePfqiHxqndkXU.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r71pmsSo38Cwo58.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/msqRpLam2dqZkas.html

Amen!

😂 *Jesus falsely prophesied his return in the 1st century* Truly I tell you, ***some who are standing here will not taste death*** before they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom Matthew 16:28 Truly I tell you, ***some who are standing here*** will not taste death before they see the kingdom of God Luke 9:27 Truly I tell you, ***this generation will certainly not pass away*** until all these things have happened Mark 13:30 The sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from the sky, and the heavenly bodies will be shaken. Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory. And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other. Truly I tell you, ***this generation will certainly not pass away*** until all these things have happened Matthew 24:29-34 There will be signs in the sun, moon and stars. On the earth, nations will be in anguish and perplexity at the roaring and tossing of the sea. People will faint from terror, apprehensive of what is coming on the world, for the heavenly bodies will be shaken. At that time they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. When these things begin to take place, stand up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near. When you see these things happening, you know that the kingdom of God is near. Truly I tell you, ***this generation will certainly not pass away*** until all these things have happened Luke 21:25-32 *Jesus promised to return over 2, 000 years ago and he still hasn’t.* Jesus and the angels never appeared from Heaven, the stars never fell from the sky, none of these things happened. Nothing he prophesied happened. ***Apologists can try to spin this, but the simple fact is that Jesus was either wrong or misquoted.*** According to the Bible that makes Jesus a false prophet or misquoted (and if Jesus is misquoted than the Bible is not inerrant or the word of God) How can we know when a message has not been spoken by the Lord? If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the Lord does not take place or come true, that is a message the Lord has not spoken Deuteronomy 18:21-22 *Jesus falsely prophesied to the high priest and the Sanhedrin* Jesus also falsely prophesied to the high priest and the Sanhedrin (assemblies of either twenty-three or seventy-one rabbis appointed to sit as a tribunal) You will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Mighty One and ***coming on the clouds of heaven*** Matthew 26:64 Mark 14:62 Except the high priest and the Sanhedrin never saw Jesus sitting at the right hand side of God, or coming on the clouds of heaven, or any such thing. *Jesus falsely prophesied to Nathaniel* Jesus also falsely prophesied to Nathanael when he declared, “Rabbi, you are the Son of God; you are the king of Israel.” Jesus said, You believe because I told you I saw you under the fig tree. You will see greater things than that. He then added, ***“Very truly I tell you, you will see heaven open, and the angels of God ascending and descending on the Son of Man*** John 1:50-51 *Nathanael never saw any such thing. Neither did anyone else.* The following quote from Stephen L. Harris, Professor Emeritus of Humanities and Religious Studies at California State University- Sacramento, completes this point with a devastating argument. *Jesus did not accomplish what Israel’s prophets said the Messiah was commissioned to do:* He did not deliver the covenant people from their Gentile enemies, reassemble those scattered in the Diaspora, restore the Davidic kingdom, or establish universal peace (cf.Isa. 9:6-7; 11:7-12:16, etc.). Instead of freeing Jews from oppressors and thereby fulfilling God’s ancient promises-for land, nationhood, kingship, and blessing- *Jesus died a “shameful” death, defeated by the very political powers the Messiah was prophesied to overcome.* Indeed, the Hebrew prophets did not foresee that Israel’s savior would be executed as a common criminal by Gentiles, *making Jesus’ crucifixion a “stumbling block” to scripturally literate Jews.* (1 Cor.1:23) Watch *Jesus: Apocalyptic Prophet, Historical Lecture - Bart D. Ehrman* ------------------------------------------------------------------ Also, look up the following. *"13x Jesus was wrong in the Bible - Life Lessons"* *"End Times - Evil Bible .com"* *"The End of All Things is At Hand - The Church Of Truth"* *"Resurrection - Fact or Myth - Omission Report"* *"What’s Missing from Codex Sinaiticus, the Oldest New Testament? - Biblical Archaeology Society"* *"The “Strange” Ending of the Gospel of Mark and Why It Makes All the Difference - Biblical Archaeology Society"* *"ex-apologist: On One of the Main Reasons Why I Think Christianity is False (Reposted)"* *"Why Jesus? Nontract (August 1999) - Freedom From Religion Foundation"* *"272: JESUS’S 5200 AUTHENTIC WORDS - zingcreed"* *"43: IS THE FOURTH GOSPEL FICTION? - zingcreed"* *"Jesus Predicted a First Century Return Which Did Not Occur - by Alex Beyman - Medium"* *"Jesus’ Failed Prophecy About His Return - Black Nonbelievers, Inc."*

@@LM-jz9vh 😂 😂 Did someone teach you to mistranslate the Bible, or did you do that all by yourself? The ones who would not taste death were Peter, James, and John, who witnessed Jesus in all His Glory, shining brighter than the sun, at the Transfiguration. In Matthew 24:14, Jesus said He would not return until the gospel would be preached unto the whole world. Not possible in the first century. “This generation” that will see the return of Christ is the generation that will witness all the events described in Mark 13: 6-27. When those events happen, the generation that is alive during those events, will witness the return of Christ. Hopefully that helps you. You sound like a brand new Bible reader. But don’t give up, you’ll get there.

Well seeing as Christianity hasn't changed since it's inception, it's fairly easy to realize you'll never be converted lol. Apologists have tried to rationalize it, but it can't be done.

@@pnut3844able Christianity has changed though, they only havent realised it yet. not with all the rabbits and santas

Imo, these kind of debates (atheist vs. theist, scientifically literate people vs. science denying Young Earth Creationists) often go nowhere; and the audience usually declares whichever debater on the side of what they already believe to be the winner, is because-- IMHO --the apologists/YECreationists are not engaging in honest discourse. Imo; apologists and pseudo-science types see debates as a contest and are just trying to score points aimed at those who are already believers. Imo, the vast majority of apologists are not debating in good faith and use intellectually dishonest rhetorical tactics to sore those points in the eyes of those who already believe.

Debates are pointless. Apologetics is pointless. IMHO anyway. A theist could debate an atheist and "win" then debate a different atheist and "lose". Some ppl are just better than others at argumentation. For me personally, I would need evidence. A sound argument doesn't equate to evidence, compelling or not.

@@skeptischism1324 Why does a sound argument not count as evidence? Doesn’t the conclusion of a sound argument necessarily have to be true?

To be charitable, that someone is Lord Jesus,not just anybody. BTW,I'm an agnostic/atheist Exmuslim.

Sacrifices will always be necessary, though. Jesus decided Himself to sacrifice His life here, in our material world, for the sake of humanity. There is something very moving about selflessness like that and I don't think the beauty of His sacrifice should be brushed off so easily. Life back in the day was just a lot harsher for people than it is nowadays in the Western world, people died often and very brutally. Death was everywhere and there was no closing your eyes and thinking about other things.

@@greylonewolf8750 from your name you don't sound like a Muslim

@@gaming4life788 I was a Muslim. BTW,Ardashir is my pseudonym.

@@emilia9756 Your god killed part of itself temporarily to somewhat still it's own bloodlust. That doesn't make it better, it just makes weirder.

I didn't know he could think. So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gM99pN1_xL-3iIk.html The odds are NOT there. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jZePfqiHxqndkXU.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r71pmsSo38Cwo58.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/msqRpLam2dqZkas.html

No, he's the fake he's always been. So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gM99pN1_xL-3iIk.html The odds are NOT there. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jZePfqiHxqndkXU.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r71pmsSo38Cwo58.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/msqRpLam2dqZkas.html

Animal stabbed for no reason? Are you referring to him going vegan? If so, meat eaters don't stab the animals themselves unless they're hunters, and it's not for no reason lol. It's to survive and live my dude. We have to eat. Also, if everyone went vegan, it wouldn't be viable. We couldn't sustain that amount of crops, plus the overpopulation of wild animals would mean they'd eat the crops even faster. Our society HAS to have the majority be meat eaters to survive.

"For no reason" isn't a fair representation. For one who doesn't extend his morals to other species, liking the taste of grilled meat is as good a reason as any.

Or a tomato being stabbed for no reason right ?

@@Mandibil A tomato doesn't care about being stabbed or eaten, it doesn't have the capacity to.

@@elvancor Not extending morals to other species is an illogical thing to do. Since all animals have the capacity to suffer so it is only rational to extend our morals to them as well. But yes, given the illogical choice of not extending your morals, you can say you have a reason. But the same can be done for another human as well. If you choose not to extend your morals for a fellow human then you may as well kill and eat another human just for the fun/taste of it.

He's a fake. So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gM99pN1_xL-3iIk.html The odds are NOT there. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jZePfqiHxqndkXU.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r71pmsSo38Cwo58.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/msqRpLam2dqZkas.html

As if Cosmic has any truth. So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gM99pN1_xL-3iIk.html The odds are NOT there. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jZePfqiHxqndkXU.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r71pmsSo38Cwo58.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/msqRpLam2dqZkas.html

@@2fast2block yeaaaaahhhhhj...... just no. All the laws of thermodynamics suggest is that we moved from a state of extremely high energy and density to this current one which we are perceiving. The thing about science is that pretty much any mundane explanation is more likely than a supernatural one. I'd be more likely to believe that our current universe is the result of a super advanced alien race mucking up a science experiment which caused some sort of massive black hole to suck up all the matter in the universe before exploding. I have no evidence to support this, but that's kind of the point neither do you.

@@georgejessup7938 in your devotion to being a nitwit, you forgot to get around the science I gave. If you feel you did that, give me more laughs and do what I said. "yeaaaaahhhhhj...... just no." No science there. "All the laws of thermodynamics suggest is that we moved from a state of extremely high energy and density to this current one which we are perceiving. " If you could read, which you can't, I did write...The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. "The thing about science is that pretty much any mundane explanation is more likely than a supernatural one. I'd be more likely to believe that our current universe is the result of a super advanced alien race mucking up a science experiment which caused some sort of massive black hole to suck up all the matter in the universe before exploding. I have no evidence to support this, but that's kind of the point neither do you." None of that was science. It did prove though how stooo-pid you love to be. Does that make you feel better? You did prove something.

Exactly. Why? He's having a great time being braindead. So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gM99pN1_xL-3iIk.html The odds are NOT there. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jZePfqiHxqndkXU.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r71pmsSo38Cwo58.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/msqRpLam2dqZkas.html

Because he WAS a Christian before not a muslim or whatnot.

@@ibrahimemmanuel4780 True. I guess I’m just tired of apologists pretending that it’s Christianity or atheism only and hoped he wouldn’t play into that. I’m probably being unfair, but it bothered me

He's a fake who cares nothing about evidence. So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gM99pN1_xL-3iIk.html The odds are NOT there. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jZePfqiHxqndkXU.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r71pmsSo38Cwo58.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/msqRpLam2dqZkas.html

Do you really want to live forever? Sure, learning the 'secrets' of the universe etc would be great, but then what. It's not for me anyway.

​@@jns8393 Life will be perfect in heaven, just as God promised that He will wipe away every tear in our eyes and just imagine all the fun activities we could be doing.

@B Martinez you got the conviction buddy, remember if you come to Christ with a believing heart and believe in Him, you will be saved. Check out KJV verses there are many more. And guess what, once saved always saved, proof that nothing can ever separate you from the love of God once you have faith in Him.

@@ChickenNugget-zh9bn Life doesn't sound perfect in heaven. Sounds like hell. Living with a angry stepfather who can read your thoughts and punishes the innocent for the crimes of others. He want's constant praise and worship. Read the bible, KJV or any version, you'd see that this god is not "love". He's horible. And didn't give a damn about 99.99% of the world's people.

@@ChickenNugget-zh9bn what sort of fun can we have? Will there be metal gigs in heaven?

@Kiki Kiki Arrogance? Not kissing ass isn’t arrogance! Believing the universe was created with you in mind and that you get to have a relationship with an omnipotent being is arrogance!!

@Kiki Kiki “A whole life to look after him.” Um, not sure what your trying to say here. Second: Guide me where? To belief? Third: that’s bullshit, plain and simple

@Kiki Kiki You can say no! According to religious people, that’s the point of free will!

@Kiki Kiki Cause maybe there are people not interested in what this God character has to offer!! No arrogance in that!

Cosmic is a nitwit. So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gM99pN1_xL-3iIk.html The odds are NOT there. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jZePfqiHxqndkXU.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r71pmsSo38Cwo58.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/msqRpLam2dqZkas.html

Why, do you actually think this F00L can think? So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gM99pN1_xL-3iIk.html The odds are NOT there. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jZePfqiHxqndkXU.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r71pmsSo38Cwo58.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/msqRpLam2dqZkas.html

Seen 'GOP vs Queer' by 'Some More News'?

@@nenmaster5218 What is your point?

Then be a F00L. Your life. So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gM99pN1_xL-3iIk.html The odds are NOT there. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jZePfqiHxqndkXU.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r71pmsSo38Cwo58.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/msqRpLam2dqZkas.html

@IdleBigots 🤝

@IdleBigots Or maybe those arguments aren’t flawed. To be fair even if one gave a good logical argument you could still not accept it. After all whatever argument you say you found convincing is subjective anyways.

@IdleBigots the exact same thing can be said about atheist and what logically concludes that worldview (nihilism)

@IdleBigots I would argue they aren’t being logically consistent. They are trying to believe something else to escape nihilism

@@Joshcaldwell24 "the exact same thing can be said about atheist and what logically concludes that worldview (nihilism)" Don't be asinine.

Cosmic is a fake for F00LS that believe him. So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gM99pN1_xL-3iIk.html The odds are NOT there. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jZePfqiHxqndkXU.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r71pmsSo38Cwo58.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/msqRpLam2dqZkas.html

@@liam1561 define spiritual

This is always a weird argument to me because like, you know you're condemning yourself to eternal hellfire if you don't right? Your only hope of causing some positive difference at that point is to try and get other people to worship him themselves to get them into paradise, sure it's a hellish world all of a sudden but there's quite literally nothing you can do about it, because god is maximally powerful, so standing up to him will do exactly nothing except earn you damnation. To be clear I am an atheist and don't believe that this world is the one we live in, but if it was you can bet I'd be on my knees praying for forgiveness from the moment I learned his existence, and attempting to convince my loved ones to do the same.

@@supremeplatypus7192 The thing is that I can't make myself think the monster in the Bibel is worthy of worship and surely he would be able to see through insincere worship, so I'm damned whatever I do. Thankfully I am very secure in my conviction that the Abrahamic God does not exist, so that doesn't worry me in the least.

@@jonasfermefors I'm taking the chance that he accepts abject terror as a suitable replacement for belief in his worthiness in that case lol. But yeah luckily I don't believe he exists either, though it does make me wonder how the fuck there are any chill Christians given what they believe

@@liam1561 "A love for nature" - does that include loving the extreme pain and suffering animals are subjected to everyday? Constant fear and agony that they would be fed upon at any point of the day? Does that include loving that some young animals would be eaten within seconds after birth? I think the word has a lot of meaning because it's lack of meaning and people just use it to describe many things while it would be better to use the other words witj the intended meaning in it's place.

Brilliant comment. Same here, partner

Religion poisons your mind, then tells you they have a cure. Just pay 10% of your wages before tax and if the Cult leader wants more money you better give or he will stand up on the podium and point at you that you are selfish. After church, your Cult leader will be eating at an all you can eat buffet at Golden Corral so he can stretch out his belly to a size 46 while ballooning to 310 pounds. Your tithing is putting Cult leaders into the grave faster than they can shove a chicken leg into their esophagus. Well on second though they drop dead on the second chicken leg.

It's okay, no need to worry, alien overlords are our new Gods anyway.

Quite a few nonsensical assumptions in your comment. First, the notion that children are driven by love and desire to help presupposes that the child knows how to act in a way that achieves those goals, this requires reflection on all possible outcomes, which is not something you can intuit. Second, selfishness does not wane with time lol. Although it may be convenient for you to assume so in this KZfaq comment, it isn’t the case, especially considering tenable theses like psychological egoism.

@@bellumthirio139 In the studies done on Young children, they are innately driven to try and help a person who seems to be struggling. They don't know how to help, but they are driven to come to the person and comfort them in their own way, without any sort of inflection or reasoning. Hence demonstrating my point that it is an innate drive rather than a considered one. There's also the evidence coming from anthropologists that it is our kind, loving nature that is the reason we are such a successful species. I agree that there are people in the world who struggle to empathise with another's struggle. But that for the vast majority of people as we age and discover that the world is a big place, we also realise that our self is small and that there are many others who occupy the world and are different, so self central views wane as we age. I have my own personal opinion, (as well as my bias towards the American culture), that suggests to me that it is the Christian narrative that keeps us selfish and mistrusting of our fellow humans. That when we get rid of the poison that is its message then we would have better relationships with our fellow humans and the planet in general. Christianity is a domestic violence relationship. Every step and message mirrors how a DV abuser keeps control over their victim. It is ok. You are ok. We are wonderful and loving creatures.

Karl Barth and Dietrich Bonhoeffer are also really good. Barth especially has probably had the greatest impact on me, my credence in Christianity is now somewhere closer to ≈0.1 rather than < 0.01. Natural theology just seems like such a shaky foundation to place ones faith on, if I ever converted I highly doubt it'd happen because of Aquinas's five ways or anything like that. What happens if I discover a flaw in premise that I didn't comprehend before? I'm perfectly fine with discovering that I have 'self-justifying'/a-rational hinge commitments like, say, the validity of induction, I'm just yet to have any experiences where I take on Christian specific hinge commitments as a result.

I enjoyed reading your comments. They made me think that if we did an honest OPCVL analysis on any of the 'sacred texts', we'd find they have a very dodgy provenance indeed.

Slavery was not dictated by God neither do the old nor new testaments recommend slavery.

Slavery was not dictated by God neither do the old nor new testaments recommend slavery.

@@ibibo3146 further more the slavery in the Bible was not similar to the modern slavery of African Americans, which was brutal. People go into it without historical context and only with their preconceived notions.

@@tylertyler6418 Very true it feels like gaslighting most times and yet none theist belief systems have caused human sufferings yet they never reject democracy, atheism capitalism, communisim, or any other ideologies because of what people had done and are still doing upholding these ideologies.

I relate somewhat. I went to college an atheist and started going to a men's group so I could give Christianity a fair shot (and hopefully find it false). I didn't find anything they said particularly convincing, until my best friend converted. We argued about it for a while, and be showed me this list of prophecies in the Old Testament. That's what convinced me. These are the most straightforward and impressive proofs in my opinion. Two of the best examples, for brevity- Isaiah 52:13-53:12 describes the servant of God who will one day die for the sins of humanity, and live after this. Daniel 9:25-27 says the Messiah would come 483 years after a decree to rebuild Jerusalem- ~33 AD or so (and that he would die afterwards). A week before his death (~33AD), he rode into Jerusalem on a donkey, publicly announcing himself as Messiah for the first time (by purposely fulfilling what was said of the Messiah in Zechariah 9:9). So, it was written hundreds of years in advance that someone would come when Jesus did, and would do what he is known for. If you're figuring out if you believe or not, that's good to consider. Peace

@@gage2787 Thanks for the suggestion, i'll look into those prophecies for sure!

If you're like Cosmic, you don't care about truth. So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gM99pN1_xL-3iIk.html The odds are NOT there. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jZePfqiHxqndkXU.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r71pmsSo38Cwo58.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/msqRpLam2dqZkas.html

He only pretends to care about truth. So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gM99pN1_xL-3iIk.html The odds are NOT there. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jZePfqiHxqndkXU.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r71pmsSo38Cwo58.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/msqRpLam2dqZkas.html

He's not smart but just a fake. So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gM99pN1_xL-3iIk.html The odds are NOT there. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jZePfqiHxqndkXU.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r71pmsSo38Cwo58.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/msqRpLam2dqZkas.html

Then be braindead like Cosmic. Your choice. So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gM99pN1_xL-3iIk.html The odds are NOT there. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jZePfqiHxqndkXU.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r71pmsSo38Cwo58.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/msqRpLam2dqZkas.html

Cosmic likes to pretend as if he's looking. He'd rather have his head up his A$$. So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gM99pN1_xL-3iIk.html The odds are NOT there. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jZePfqiHxqndkXU.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r71pmsSo38Cwo58.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/msqRpLam2dqZkas.html

Go join Cosmic and have your stooo-pid party. So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gM99pN1_xL-3iIk.html The odds are NOT there. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jZePfqiHxqndkXU.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r71pmsSo38Cwo58.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/msqRpLam2dqZkas.html