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This week as we continue to pull apart Bertha to reveal the extent of damage underneath and it is so much worse than we thought! This leaves us doubting what we are doing and if it's even possible to fix!
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@paulsgarage3169
@paulsgarage3169 2 ай бұрын
From one chippie to another. It's so good to see someone unperturbed and confident in what he is doing. I have no doubt you will make it better and stronger. The best timber to use in a caravan is aluminium, love that! Looking forward to seeing the completed job.
@nowornever_aus
@nowornever_aus 2 ай бұрын
Thanks mate! Isn’t it funny because I’d never build myself a timber caravan but at the same time I’d never build myself a steel frame house 😂
@brucewiggins2731
@brucewiggins2731 Ай бұрын
@@nowornever_aus Im a retired chippie I worked on steel framed houses for about 4 years and would take one over timber any day of the week , they are so straight especially large ceiling areas they are so flat and look so good, also if you built caravans why did you buy a timber framed van ? I would never buy a timber framed van for the reason you are finding out ,good luck with your repairs thanks.
@karavanningdownunder
@karavanningdownunder Ай бұрын
Haha “the best timber to use in a caravan is aluminum” Quote of the year right there! Had me in stitches. Awesome job guys, excited to see the repairs come together, i have no doubt in your abilities 👌🏼
@nowornever_aus
@nowornever_aus Ай бұрын
😂 glad you got a laugh out of it! 🤙🏻
@carlfrier2873
@carlfrier2873 2 ай бұрын
cant believe you are keeping so calm. I'd all over the shop. look forward to watching how you fix it all up. Luckily you know what your doing.
@nowornever_aus
@nowornever_aus 2 ай бұрын
Erin’s no as calm but the way I look at it is that everything can be fixed 👍🏻
@user-ph2ys8el3g
@user-ph2ys8el3g Ай бұрын
Hi guys. Our caravan has been redone in front because the previous owner got rid of the window. What they did was replace the total front with white checkerplate right up to the top. It looks great.
@nowornever_aus
@nowornever_aus Ай бұрын
That would look great!
@JonLucas-lk2gj
@JonLucas-lk2gj Ай бұрын
Doing proper Caravaning for the masses,so impressed by what you post,so much better and relatable, than a whole episode about your overweight van and your latest sponsorship deal for a Yank tank.I wish you the best.
@nowornever_aus
@nowornever_aus Ай бұрын
Thanks 😁
@jackthomson73
@jackthomson73 2 ай бұрын
Love the confidence mate. Your missus looks exactly like mine when doing something sketchy and I say “ trust me “. 😂 I’m rebuilding an old van for my boss at the moment and we are reskinning the whole thing in white composite panel with a 600 mm strip of checker plate ally around the bottom. Got the checker plate powder coated black and it looks a treat. Wasn’t very expensive either. Good luck with the build and Erin might find a bit of rum or bourbon will make things look not so bleak 😂😂😂
@nowornever_aus
@nowornever_aus 2 ай бұрын
🤣 thanks mate!
@Romeo-kp8tc
@Romeo-kp8tc 2 ай бұрын
Not surprised, that's why I built my van steel frame, composite panels, 18 mm , 18yrs ago, It's amazing where water will get in, The bottom edge on that caravan will certainly be stuffed, Yous may get lucky, Seen so many caravans with same damage, Got yourselfs an interesting project, Good Luck😃🤠🦘🦘🇦🇺
@nowornever_aus
@nowornever_aus 2 ай бұрын
Thanks mate! Metal is most certainly the way to go!
@lindaarmiger217
@lindaarmiger217 2 ай бұрын
Nothing more frustrating than water damage in your van. I have faith in your ability to fix Bertha, Alex. Erin, you may be nervous of the scale, but one bite at a time in the work to a new look, water tight Bertha.
@nowornever_aus
@nowornever_aus 2 ай бұрын
Thank you! Yes you’re right and we can’t wait to get her all done and get back out there!
@owenclark2661
@owenclark2661 2 ай бұрын
Great to see you guys show the pit falls of second hand caravans and the methods to correct and re build a caravan keep going great to see top work .
@nowornever_aus
@nowornever_aus 2 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@63holden
@63holden 2 ай бұрын
I like your plan Alex. 👍 so lucky you have the use of the shed. 😉
@nowornever_aus
@nowornever_aus 2 ай бұрын
Thanks! Very lucky!
@rogerread3452
@rogerread3452 2 ай бұрын
you have convinced me - not to purchasse a caravan made with timber framing or timber lining - cheers - Your Hubby has this - that is for sure - after watching your earlier renovations - he is all over this - thanks for sharing.
@nowornever_aus
@nowornever_aus 2 ай бұрын
Thanks! Not all timber frame vans are bad, as long as they are sealed right they are usually fine but usually you don’t know it’s leaking until it’s too late unfortunately
@georgewinters3191
@georgewinters3191 2 ай бұрын
You’re up to the challenge and I think your plans for a more square bottom will be better for fixing the chequer plate particularly the bottom edge being 90 degrees. If your replacing frame with timber I have heard of marine builders coating in some product that basically makes the timber waterproof, that might be worth investigating too. Like someone else said , the clearance lights might also have been a source of water . Glad the top half is ok 😊. Completely get Erin’s nervousness, however everything is fixable , time and funds and have a go attitude mixed with skills… I am even watching all ads up to 3 minutes just to help you get something hopefully from KZfaq to pay for more staples😊😊😊
@nowornever_aus
@nowornever_aus 2 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! I’ll definitely be looking into the timber sealant and definitely sealing up the new clearance lights!
@dawayneduffy3509
@dawayneduffy3509 2 ай бұрын
Hey ❤it that what you get with old vans. Only if you new someone who use to build caravans.
@nowornever_aus
@nowornever_aus 2 ай бұрын
Haha I swear I’ve heard someone say they used to build caravans!
@Joshhatch83
@Joshhatch83 2 ай бұрын
Good luck with the rebuild, can't wait to see the final result
@nowornever_aus
@nowornever_aus 2 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@beersintheshed.
@beersintheshed. 2 ай бұрын
Your got this in the bag, your vision of how you want it is by far the best option, my brother did the same thing. Luckily my best mate has a sheet metal fabrication shop and we bot all the aluminium checker plate cut and folded through him. Best of luck.
@nowornever_aus
@nowornever_aus 2 ай бұрын
Thank you! Always helps having people on the right places!
@customs112
@customs112 2 ай бұрын
I'm renovating a 1970 Chesney and the frame is all Alloy, there's no doubt that it's a much better material to build caravans from.
@nowornever_aus
@nowornever_aus 2 ай бұрын
Definitely!
@mindyedwards2699
@mindyedwards2699 2 ай бұрын
Lucky Alex knows how to fix this. Most people wouldn't unless they've worked in the industry. Erin he's got this. looking forward to the new and improved version of Bertha. Good luck 👍
@nowornever_aus
@nowornever_aus 2 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@fleurneumann8430
@fleurneumann8430 2 ай бұрын
Just love your amazing attitudes towards this pull apart of your van and look forward to the finished product .
@nowornever_aus
@nowornever_aus 2 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@luckycountrytravellers6488
@luckycountrytravellers6488 2 ай бұрын
Oh guys our hearts are breaking for you but we have total faith you’ll get the job done and Bertha will be all the better for it 😮
@nowornever_aus
@nowornever_aus 2 ай бұрын
Thank guys! Yep she’ll be even better after this! 🙌🏼
@neilthorman3646
@neilthorman3646 2 ай бұрын
Hi , omg I’m scared as well at least I’ve learnt one thing! Don’t take any panels off your caravan because what you don’t know doesn’t matter. 😊
@seanbest8907
@seanbest8907 2 ай бұрын
Look forward to seeing progress.
@nowornever_aus
@nowornever_aus 2 ай бұрын
🙌🏼
@farnofamilyfarm
@farnofamilyfarm 2 ай бұрын
Alex mate. I love the way you think. Genius in your planning. Faith says "Be a go get em tiger!" Which is you. And Patience says "I trust you as long as you help me understand, which is Erin what.brings to the table." Saturate all that with hope, love and courage you ooze your name "Now or Never!" - Well done!!! If I was related to you I would be proud of you .... except I am a Kiwi and my wife is the Aussie. Oh yeah. The best timber is aluminium, classic quote. You should patent it. Lol
@nowornever_aus
@nowornever_aus 2 ай бұрын
Thanks so much!! 🙌🏼
@mickp10
@mickp10 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing the repair , really interesting.
@nowornever_aus
@nowornever_aus 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching 😁
@MareeForman
@MareeForman 2 ай бұрын
Love your confidence and your attitude. Hope it all works out for you. 🤞
@nowornever_aus
@nowornever_aus 2 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@alisonphilp7497
@alisonphilp7497 2 ай бұрын
Have fun guys I’m sure it will turn out great
@nowornever_aus
@nowornever_aus 2 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@user-jq1zc7et6b
@user-jq1zc7et6b Ай бұрын
Just a NOTE... Don't leave your 400ampa straight on the concrete floor , as the floor will drain your battery flat.... so place it on a milk crate or wood. Plug in a trickle charger while your repairing van. Cheers , enjoying all your videos .
@nowornever_aus
@nowornever_aus Ай бұрын
Thank you!
@theluckyseven3406
@theluckyseven3406 2 ай бұрын
Front leaks like you have are most likely and very common to come from clearance lights
@nowornever_aus
@nowornever_aus 2 ай бұрын
Yes will be making sure to seal them all up! Thanks!
@brianmercer0113
@brianmercer0113 2 ай бұрын
Love your can do attitude
@nowornever_aus
@nowornever_aus 2 ай бұрын
Cheers 👍🏻
@petercoggan8615
@petercoggan8615 2 ай бұрын
Love watching and learning
@nowornever_aus
@nowornever_aus 2 ай бұрын
Cheers!
@scottmathew3919
@scottmathew3919 2 ай бұрын
I know this water rot is not good for you guys but it is great content for all of us with you not hiding the hidden issues you can find when water leaks can happen, thank you for the video
@nowornever_aus
@nowornever_aus 2 ай бұрын
Cheers! Love showing it how it is!
@desmonddawson4162
@desmonddawson4162 2 ай бұрын
Hi guys love your Reno videos ,we have a 2011 Retreat Macquarie which we love,originally we had 2 front windows which leaked replaced them with a composite panel ,we have checker plate half way up the front ,we’re now doing the same on the back due to hail damage cheers
@nowornever_aus
@nowornever_aus 2 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@jadewatkins5549
@jadewatkins5549 2 ай бұрын
Good luck 👍
@nowornever_aus
@nowornever_aus 2 ай бұрын
Cheers!
@robertarmbruster5650
@robertarmbruster5650 2 ай бұрын
Good luck with all this guys. I had a 2001 Goldstream poptop that we did a lot of repairs to because of boot water entry damage. The main problem is it is such a big learning curve. Meranti is a terrible van building material, it has a natural bacteria that runs away once wet, you can dry it out but it will still rot. The other issue with the old aluminium sheet panels is the many joints and temperature changes, they pump tonnes of moisture laden air over the years. I could still get the aluminium sheet panels from Camec when the van was written off by hail damage in 2022. Keep the same profile and buy yourself an AC TIG welder and refab the front frame assembly out of 25 x 25 SHS aluminium and some flat sheet to get the curves then sheet it a sensible height with the 2mm checker plate then finish the top with a polymeric backed aluminum powder coat panel. You will also need to remove the LH side panels to repair rotten timbers and sheet also with the checker plate on both sides.
@nowornever_aus
@nowornever_aus 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the tips and info mate!
@miriamtwiname9627
@miriamtwiname9627 2 ай бұрын
I’m sure it will all come together in the end. Good Luck. Sorry to hear of your dilemma
@nowornever_aus
@nowornever_aus 2 ай бұрын
Thank you! She’ll be even better when we are done!
@ichecktpms
@ichecktpms 2 ай бұрын
Oh my...you got bigger kahuna's than me Alex! Good luck mate
@nowornever_aus
@nowornever_aus 2 ай бұрын
Cheers mate! Good fun tackling stuff like this!
@mitchellharrison5492
@mitchellharrison5492 2 ай бұрын
Keep the Faith 👍🏻
@nowornever_aus
@nowornever_aus 2 ай бұрын
🙌🏼
@Bradp72
@Bradp72 2 ай бұрын
you can do it mate.... easy, we have faith in ya!
@nowornever_aus
@nowornever_aus 2 ай бұрын
Thanks mate!! We’ll definitely get it sorted!
@johnmathisen1167
@johnmathisen1167 2 ай бұрын
We have faith in you Alex, and Erin we are pretty sure that you can trust the boy to do it far better than the factory did.
@nowornever_aus
@nowornever_aus 2 ай бұрын
Cheers mate!
@bushmagpie3312
@bushmagpie3312 2 ай бұрын
Now you have the scope of the damage. Great plan to fix. How do eat and elephant, small bits at time. I have no doubts on your skills and you’ll make this even better than new. You did great on refurbishing and repairs why would this be any different. Just make sure you vent the lithium to go with new laws. The alum cladding is still available but black checker plate sounds more appealing.
@nowornever_aus
@nowornever_aus 2 ай бұрын
Thanks so much! Can’t wait to see how she looks when we are done!
@1982mrbigred
@1982mrbigred 2 ай бұрын
The front boot bung was actually regulation for front boot fitted gas bottles back in the day.
@nowornever_aus
@nowornever_aus 2 ай бұрын
Strange that they are in this van though as the gas bottles were never located inside the boot 🤷‍♂️
@gilesy7169
@gilesy7169 Ай бұрын
Big job guys but love your spirit! Just subscribed and looking forward to the next instalments. Cheers Matt🍻
@nowornever_aus
@nowornever_aus Ай бұрын
Thanks Matt!
@treeman3663
@treeman3663 2 ай бұрын
If i got a van never again timber frame but alex is the expert
@nowornever_aus
@nowornever_aus 2 ай бұрын
👍🏻
@andrewt924
@andrewt924 2 ай бұрын
Tip,if you choose to put the diesel heater tank in the boot make sure you put a breather to the outside otherwise you will smell diesel inside van! From my experience 😊
@nowornever_aus
@nowornever_aus 2 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@filthyoffroadadventures
@filthyoffroadadventures 2 ай бұрын
Holy crap 😳 I like the idea of the new shape nose and a separate tool box for gas cylinders etc. also love idea of having two boot lids and batteries having its own compartment. Can’t wait to see how you do it.
@nowornever_aus
@nowornever_aus 2 ай бұрын
Cheers guys!
@Cybermerl
@Cybermerl 2 ай бұрын
Hey guys... what a bugga that turned out to be... Love the idea of squaring off the front and pitting a box there. Not sure how far back this is... but I had a thought, if your putting the diesel heater tank back in there, maybe face it the other way and cut in a fill point fron outside, you could use one like they do on small boats, where the cap screws on and is flush with the exterior... just a thought.. Good luck with the rest of the repair.
@nowornever_aus
@nowornever_aus 2 ай бұрын
That’s a great idea! Thanks!
@davemalcolm9179
@davemalcolm9179 2 ай бұрын
Love a man with a plan, I recon it will look good especially with two hatches/doors.
@nowornever_aus
@nowornever_aus 2 ай бұрын
🙌🏼 I think she’ll look great!
@stuartkcalvin
@stuartkcalvin 2 ай бұрын
It'll work!
@nowornever_aus
@nowornever_aus 2 ай бұрын
👍🏻
@Mlbcad001
@Mlbcad001 2 ай бұрын
Following to see the awesome job we all know you are going to do
@nowornever_aus
@nowornever_aus 2 ай бұрын
Thank you! ☺️
@Adam-ox6zy
@Adam-ox6zy 2 ай бұрын
That’s not too bad. That was what ours was like under that same kind of padded vinyl crap. Never will I put that vinyl stuff on the front of a caravan. Our j mould was not sealed properly either (scrimped on the silicone under it) and water got in that way too but definitely around the edges of the vinyl when it got old a started to crack and pull away from the silicone edging. Replaced all our front with tread plate. And v4 from bostik is the stuff to use to seal up under jay mould and the edges and around window frames coz it cleans out easier if you have to remove it and the time will come that you want to or need to replace j mould. With window frames I put thin closed cell foam on the inside of the frame and then sealed up the edge with the v4. Did the same for the boot frame which is pretty much a window frame.
@nowornever_aus
@nowornever_aus 2 ай бұрын
Thanks! Yeah the v4 is a great versatile sealant!
@_bodgie
@_bodgie 2 ай бұрын
Some manufacturers used (use) treated meranti and it holds up much better to leaks. If you didn't already do this, I'd suggest treating the timer with something to protect it from the inevitable water ingress. Penetrol of all things can work quite well. A good thing about wood is you can repair it, aluminium frames when damaged can be a different story from what I understand.
@nowornever_aus
@nowornever_aus 2 ай бұрын
Thank you! Will definitely be looking into a treatment 👍🏻
@the.landcrusierfam
@the.landcrusierfam 2 ай бұрын
I have all the faith in u Alex mate you got this 🍻
@nowornever_aus
@nowornever_aus 2 ай бұрын
Cheers!
@treeman3663
@treeman3663 2 ай бұрын
Go for it alex i have confidence in you can you reframe in aluminium??
@nowornever_aus
@nowornever_aus 2 ай бұрын
Thanks! I definitely could but don’t think it will be worth it for such a small area, also harder to tie the aluminium into the timber
@gary7684
@gary7684 2 ай бұрын
Take it down to floor level and start again, full van build😃
@nowornever_aus
@nowornever_aus 2 ай бұрын
Maybe for the next one 😉
@westernaustraliatravelfish2144
@westernaustraliatravelfish2144 2 ай бұрын
I've moved from Beer Poster Boy to I've Built Caravans, a T-shirt coming to a store near you 🤪🤣
@nowornever_aus
@nowornever_aus 2 ай бұрын
😂 you might be on to something there!
@Andrew.Hammond
@Andrew.Hammond 2 ай бұрын
10.10 Slips catch.
@nowornever_aus
@nowornever_aus 2 ай бұрын
😂🙌🏼 I was surprised I caught it!
@AussieOutlaw
@AussieOutlaw 2 ай бұрын
WHAT A MESS. Time to purchase a new VAN
@nowornever_aus
@nowornever_aus 2 ай бұрын
If only our funds allowed that!
@bencole9936
@bencole9936 2 ай бұрын
We all know it's there, but none of us want to do that The tin holds it together 😂
@nowornever_aus
@nowornever_aus 2 ай бұрын
Haha true!
@johnpitt2742
@johnpitt2742 2 ай бұрын
my advice is do the very minimun because every job on the van takes twice as much as you plan on
@judithtaylor6916
@judithtaylor6916 2 ай бұрын
Definitely invest in checker plate for the front of the van. If you take out the curve, will you lose space for the battery system?
@nowornever_aus
@nowornever_aus 2 ай бұрын
Definitely going for checker plate! No the battery is quite slim so will still fit easily
@Dennis-zr3fb
@Dennis-zr3fb 2 ай бұрын
We love your videos, we wish you could make the vids longer, but understand you are working people. Here's something to help chill, buy a couple of coffees
@nowornever_aus
@nowornever_aus 2 ай бұрын
Thank you so much!! 😁 we appreciate your support so much!
@phillkettle5856
@phillkettle5856 2 ай бұрын
Typical water damage. Squaring the front to put a toolbox on makes sense. Have thought of using a sheet of 18mm ply for the front framework and then fix the propeller plate. It gives you good fixing and is way more stable than a matchstick frame.
@nowornever_aus
@nowornever_aus 2 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@treeman3663
@treeman3663 2 ай бұрын
The van has been bogied before. Thats the bad thing about timber frames been there done that
@nowornever_aus
@nowornever_aus 2 ай бұрын
Yep!
@79VICTORYEXPLOREAUS
@79VICTORYEXPLOREAUS 2 ай бұрын
Would the drain holes in the front boot not be for hoses and condensation? I don’t think they plan for water leakage?
@nowornever_aus
@nowornever_aus 2 ай бұрын
Not for hoses, potentially could be for condensation but in that case I would assume every hatch would have a drain hole
@richardtimms6645
@richardtimms6645 2 ай бұрын
Insurance & a tree 😆
@nowornever_aus
@nowornever_aus 2 ай бұрын
😂 then we’d have to find another Bertha and it would probably have the same issues!
@BDavis.
@BDavis. Ай бұрын
Did you find the kids would have a lot of allergies (constant cough) or trouble sleeping near the water damage/mould?
@nowornever_aus
@nowornever_aus Ай бұрын
No thankfully we haven’t had that! We did experience that in our first house though with mould under the carpet, it was horrible for them!
@ladysusanjane2682
@ladysusanjane2682 2 ай бұрын
Oh Erin. Having your house torn apart must be confronting🤦🏼‍♀️
@nowornever_aus
@nowornever_aus 2 ай бұрын
It sure is!
@carolmcmillan1108
@carolmcmillan1108 2 ай бұрын
Wow… I have faith that you can resurrect your van👌 but I understand Erin I would’ve cried 🥹🤣… can’t wait to see what you do.
@nowornever_aus
@nowornever_aus 2 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@waynelemmon3007
@waynelemmon3007 2 ай бұрын
It's not the first Retreat that I've seen with water damage rot. Certainly wouldn't be a brand of van that I'd own after seeing so many with water damage
@nowornever_aus
@nowornever_aus 2 ай бұрын
I’ve seen one other but it was more in the rear rather than the front
@waynelemmon3007
@waynelemmon3007 2 ай бұрын
@nowornever_aus yours is the third if not the forth that I've seen. All have been the front and front right side
@paulholtham9945
@paulholtham9945 2 ай бұрын
Now lm scared how mine is.
@nowornever_aus
@nowornever_aus 2 ай бұрын
Worth checking everything is sealed well 👍🏻
@chrishughes6751
@chrishughes6751 2 ай бұрын
can water damage like this write off a caravan through insurance ??
@nowornever_aus
@nowornever_aus 2 ай бұрын
Yes it definitely can because of the amount of work involved peeling everything back to repair it
@slowboat6021
@slowboat6021 2 ай бұрын
good reason not to get a timber framed van. hope it goes together ok.
@nowornever_aus
@nowornever_aus 2 ай бұрын
Cheers 👍🏻
@roystad8916
@roystad8916 2 ай бұрын
Never sealed properly from new.
@nowornever_aus
@nowornever_aus 2 ай бұрын
Yeah appears that way
@Accolades70
@Accolades70 2 ай бұрын
Looks like a lot of work and $ ?
@nowornever_aus
@nowornever_aus 2 ай бұрын
A lot of labour yes but shouldn’t be too bad on the $$ side of things
@richardcharlton8259
@richardcharlton8259 2 ай бұрын
What a great ad for how shit retreat caravans are good luck with the rebuild
@nowornever_aus
@nowornever_aus 2 ай бұрын
I see caravans a bit like cars, most are good but every now and then you get one with problems, over all doesn’t necessarily mean they are bad
@johnpitt2742
@johnpitt2742 2 ай бұрын
you see why they don't use wood these days
@nowornever_aus
@nowornever_aus 2 ай бұрын
still a lot of timber frame vans being built these days as it’s cheaper
@jo_clarke1960
@jo_clarke1960 2 ай бұрын
Mission creep at its finest, TLC is turning into reno, 🤞 it dont turn into rebuild.
@nowornever_aus
@nowornever_aus 2 ай бұрын
🤞🏼
@DennisKearl
@DennisKearl 2 ай бұрын
Mate do your self a favour and under seal everything as 99% of silicone is not UV rated same as roofing your house silicone can not be exposed to UV
@nowornever_aus
@nowornever_aus 2 ай бұрын
Your 100% right and I definitely will be 👍🏻
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