HAWK TUAH at the Brothel | House of the Dragon - 2x3 The Burning Mill

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8 күн бұрын

Hot D continues to enthrall every week. RIP to House Bracken ya'll. They were some real ones am I right? Do you think you have to choose a side like Team Green or Team Black? Are they trying to say something about our current political climate that we must be forced to pick between sides? Enjoy Season 2 Episode 3 of House of the Dragon The Burning Mill!
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@Thenormies
@Thenormies 6 күн бұрын
We almost had a Cripsy Cole this week DAMMIT!!!
@juanitajones6900
@juanitajones6900 6 күн бұрын
We should have had a crispy Hightower.
@blueocean9758
@blueocean9758 6 күн бұрын
Dam quick upload
@rohanshende4338
@rohanshende4338 6 күн бұрын
@@juanitajones6900 Wait till crispy Rhaenyra shows up
@TheKyuubi14
@TheKyuubi14 6 күн бұрын
@@juanitajones6900 Damn, I like Gwayne 😂😂 any enemy of Cole is a friend of mine!
@IsiahBradley
@IsiahBradley 6 күн бұрын
LOLOLOLOLOLOL
@anonymous-bb2dw
@anonymous-bb2dw 6 күн бұрын
daemon wanted to be called your grace because he's married to the queen, not because he's "pressing a claim" 😭😭 he should be called your grace, like alicent is.
@anais6654
@anais6654 6 күн бұрын
I swear they never think
@sarad2659
@sarad2659 6 күн бұрын
Actually as the consort to the Queen he perhaps shouldn't be called your Grace, as it could be seen as minimising Rhaenyra's position. It's why Prince Philip in real life was never referred to as your majesty.
@Sarahlancey
@Sarahlancey 6 күн бұрын
Wasn’t his title prince consort? He literally is prince consort. The castellan or liege of Harrenhal calling him prince was correct and the normies being confused by Daemon’s request is understandable.
@lucasbelmonte2832
@lucasbelmonte2832 6 күн бұрын
@@sarad2659 Prince phillip was prince consort not king consort, Daemon is king consort.
@invi022
@invi022 6 күн бұрын
U are delulu, literally read the scene
@saberstrike000
@saberstrike000 6 күн бұрын
"Cowabunga it is" is pretty much the Blackwood/Bracken reaction to any conflict in Westeros. Remember the duel when Rhaenyra was doing her husband hunt?
@teksnotdead902
@teksnotdead902 6 күн бұрын
They've been killing each other since before Aegon the Conqueror and they'll be killing each other long after.
@hectormiranda1088
@hectormiranda1088 6 күн бұрын
@@teksnotdead902 Since the Gardeners had Highgarden and Casterly Rock belonged to the Casterlys
@pajamaparty01
@pajamaparty01 6 күн бұрын
Were they fighting before the incident with the tree? I think in ASOIAF they said Blackwood's tree got poisoned 'a thousand years ago' (and they haven't shut about it since lol).
@saberstrike000
@saberstrike000 5 күн бұрын
@@teksnotdead902 They have been killing each other before the ANDALS (probably the only war they fought on the same side). And I think they can't even agree if it was 500 or 1000 years before that. They both date back to the First Men, but the Brakens converted and heavily intermarried with the Andals.
@stevenhernandeznon-profitf968
@stevenhernandeznon-profitf968 Күн бұрын
1000000%
@aime562
@aime562 6 күн бұрын
Alicent's, "there is no mistake" is really just a "I'm powerless." She can't actually say that because she hasn't fully come to terms with quite how stuck she is, and "there is no mistake" is basically saying she can change nothing. Mistake or no.
@tylerrichard5295
@tylerrichard5295 6 күн бұрын
Orrrr she’s in denial and too stubborn to admit her misunderstanding caused a war. Either way, I’d like to see her try. Even though war is inevitable, it would make her redeem herself by trying. She’s already a trash mother so id also like to see her try and be a better mother before they probably die. She thinks she tries to do the right thing all the time yet sleeps with Cole, doesn’t comfort her grieving kids, checks in on her mourning daughter only to make sure her secret is still safe, AND doesn’t admit she admit she made a mistake that led to a war
@TheGuyCalledX
@TheGuyCalledX 6 күн бұрын
Or, more simply, it wasn't her mistake because it was ultimately intentional on the part of everyone on the Green side except her.
@AK-pw3oq
@AK-pw3oq 6 күн бұрын
Also even if there was no misunderstanding there was always plan to usurp the throne without Alicent
@skeeyee1643
@skeeyee1643 6 күн бұрын
@@AK-pw3oqyeah they think by her saying its too late, they can go stop the armies, but its really too personal for the men that are pushing for the war. the new information simply wont stop them. cole and aegon and even aemond (from her perspective) want this war desperately. its not up to her
@AK-pw3oq
@AK-pw3oq 6 күн бұрын
@@skeeyee1643 Alicent hate is total unnecessary she has no control over anything since start unlike Rhenyra including scene with Viserys. That guy did enough damage to his family dynasty with his weak decision making when he was alive but did some more even when dieing 😂
@tonymac2975
@tonymac2975 6 күн бұрын
7:07 Seasmoke and Leanor are spirit bonded as dragon and dragon rider. I highly suspect that Seasmoke is acting oddly because Leanor died off screen and he can sense it
@aquele4virou3
@aquele4virou3 6 күн бұрын
I sure hope so, because HBO had put out a video saying Seasmoke became riderless when Laenor left so people were worried they would have him bonding without solving this issue (they deleted the video immediately but there are screenshots of it lmao). I also think Laenor’s actor was seen on set, so maybe he will not die off-screen. But I’m not sure if it was confirmed to be him.
@1LifeGaming1
@1LifeGaming1 6 күн бұрын
Laenor didnt die he just went away with his boyfriend. Its more likely he's acting the way he is because he's not been with Laenor for so long
@arraikcruor6407
@arraikcruor6407 6 күн бұрын
Leanor didn't die offscreen.
@liljackypaper
@liljackypaper 6 күн бұрын
Didn't we see him in the season preview?
@convulsiongaming8723
@convulsiongaming8723 6 күн бұрын
Either he has died or word of his son dieing has reached him and he is on his way home. I'm pretty sure that was him in the trailer
@nox2367
@nox2367 6 күн бұрын
The entrance of Alys Rivers right when Simon Strong says "by the old gods.." so subtle but so good, they absolutely hit the Harrenhal content out of the park
@The_Muncher2017
@The_Muncher2017 6 күн бұрын
But the book elitist will say its bad because the show didnt spend an extra $50,000 to the vfx team to make Harrenhal book accurate sized🤣
@CodLiverOil8
@CodLiverOil8 6 күн бұрын
​@@The_Muncher2017the show is boring :(
@hakone1841
@hakone1841 6 күн бұрын
@@CodLiverOil8 no its great
@AK-pw3oq
@AK-pw3oq 6 күн бұрын
​@@The_Muncher2017 lame one mate 😂
@aaronnordstrom788
@aaronnordstrom788 6 күн бұрын
​@@CodLiverOil8im guessing your between the ages of 12 and 15?
@lucasbelmonte2832
@lucasbelmonte2832 6 күн бұрын
The old lords on Rhaenyras council aren't the only ones getting frustrated with her, Jace is too. He wants revenge on the people who murdered his little brother so his mom not making ANY decisions at all is really starting to piss him off.
@irfanadhin5918
@irfanadhin5918 6 күн бұрын
Yeah, he has been staring Rhaenyra for a while now lol
@govinddas7876
@govinddas7876 6 күн бұрын
Rhaenyra tells Jace about the prophecy next episode and then Jace calms down probably
@sosayweall2509
@sosayweall2509 5 күн бұрын
It not that Jace wants revenge he understands that rhaneras father never bolstered the allegiant to her family..those allegiance have grown stale...she has no standing army she holds no territories...she's on the weaker end to the claim.
@BhlackBishop
@BhlackBishop 5 күн бұрын
Like seriously. Give them something, now she just looks indecisive
@Mrryn
@Mrryn 4 күн бұрын
Which is also why Rhaenyra chose Baela to play recon on King's Landing instead of him - she knows good and well the risk of letting an opportunity for short-term vengeance at the first look. Just like Rhaenys said, the hot-blooded taking upon themselves to sate vengeance with punishment, even if baits them into further escalating violence. And seeing the Battle of the Burning Mill aftermath - a war between two houses with zero dragons involved - to say that taking precaution before a war of this magnitude isn't just prudent; doing so just to "satiate" the restless at the council could be costly in the worst sense.
@embrown1442000
@embrown1442000 6 күн бұрын
I blame the war on Otto Hightower. When he sent Alicent to 'comfort' King Viserys, he was setting this whole thing in motion.
@daurydavis3983
@daurydavis3983 6 күн бұрын
Yep
@ahmadabdulazeeztugga7147
@ahmadabdulazeeztugga7147 6 күн бұрын
Nah, if anybody is to be blamed outrightly for the dance it's Viserys. His accumulated failures as a king led to the dance. King's are judged by their legacy, what they leave behind and what he left was the dance. People don't realize it cuz of how much of a good man he is morally but he was such a bad king.
@kurhanchyk
@kurhanchyk 6 күн бұрын
viserys allowed him to be successful lol
@unbowedqueen
@unbowedqueen 6 күн бұрын
Or you can blame viserys too. He didn’t HAVE to marry another woman. Y’all lack critical thinking skills
@unbowedqueen
@unbowedqueen 6 күн бұрын
@@daurydavis3983no, it’s not just Otto. It’s also viserys
@ecm95
@ecm95 6 күн бұрын
Brackens and blackwoods aren’t common folk and they were not fighting over blacks vs greens 😂
@WarKrieg
@WarKrieg 6 күн бұрын
Also do they not see the sigils? Since when do the small folks have sigils? Since when do the small folks speak in terms of family names like the Brackens and the Blackwoods? What common folks would spontaneously have a whole ass battle that leaves hundreds or thousands dead🤦‍♂️
@khafaniking1230
@khafaniking1230 6 күн бұрын
@@WarKriegThe small folk do wear the sigils of their lords though as their men, and they do still get sent off to war and suffer the most, so I think the point still stands tbh.
@ile.spirkoski
@ile.spirkoski 6 күн бұрын
Nor are they extinct... 😁
@NeilsonBuntowa
@NeilsonBuntowa 5 күн бұрын
@@ile.spirkoski they are the cacroches of westeros lol
@AdmiralHistory
@AdmiralHistory 5 күн бұрын
@@khafaniking1230the small folk only wear the sigils of their lords if they are in their employ. Knights, Men-at-arms and soldiers etc. the common worker or person in their lands wouldn’t tho
@ile.spirkoski
@ile.spirkoski 6 күн бұрын
One very important fact, that people *definitely* overlook - Aegon became King because of Otto and the small council's plans, not because of Alicent's half-overheard prophecy. 👈😉
@philipgodsworth4764
@philipgodsworth4764 6 күн бұрын
Saying “Hey guys remember when I said my husband changed his mind last second, turns out I was mistaken” would change nothing except giving everyone a reason to ignore her for the rest of her life.
@BhlackBishop
@BhlackBishop 5 күн бұрын
lol
@askyeyv7039
@askyeyv7039 4 күн бұрын
"Ahhh, in that case Im abdicating the throne, let's call for our true queen rhaenyra". The worst part is some people really think thats the case lmao
@bRianizzle
@bRianizzle 19 сағат бұрын
@philipgodsworth4764 bars
@Freya1412
@Freya1412 6 күн бұрын
The war wasn't started over an indecisive king. Viscerys never changed his mind about Rhaenyra being heir. The war wasn't started over a misunderstanding. Otto and members of the council had been plotting in secret for years to put Aegon on the throne. Whether Alicent agreed or not made no difference. However Alicent heard what she wanted to hear and believed it because she truly wanted her son to be king. The misunderstanding of the kings last words only served to ease Alicent's guilt at helping steal Rhaenyra's inheritance. It was Otto and men like Otto who caused the war because they would sooner see the realm burn than have a woman on the throne. Otto also comes from an extremely ambitious house. It's like a family duty to increase hightower status and position. Worst mistake Viscerys made was marrying one of them.
@girlboss5172
@girlboss5172 6 күн бұрын
Even if Alicent went against the council when Viserys died, she would've just been imprisoned and forced to go along with it anyway. I'd have a LOT more respect for her, but it was going to happen regardless of whether she wanted it or not.
@aileenpi73
@aileenpi73 6 күн бұрын
Precisely
@kstewsoctopus
@kstewsoctopus 6 күн бұрын
Viserys hould have never married a 14 year old child and forced her to have male heirs just because he had weird dreams. He ruined Alicent's life, his children's lives and ultimately Rhaenyra's. Otto is to blame too for pimping his daughter out to a grandpa.
@s.sharine
@s.sharine 6 күн бұрын
⁠@@girlboss5172 that’s the whole point right? she HAS to double down now. she makes it clear this ep too. what power does she really have? like rhaenys said, instead of working to empower, she toils in service to men. she wanted to rule by influencing the men around her, but now her dad is gone and her kids aren’t going to listen to her. what can she do now? i feel for her
@AK-pw3oq
@AK-pw3oq 6 күн бұрын
Biggest villian was Viserys. Dude married second time to have male heirs and then didn't named him as heir beause he was emotionally weak 😂
@dartmouth43a74
@dartmouth43a74 6 күн бұрын
I forgot who mentioned it in a episode, but normal ordinary citizens basically never see the royal family. So they basically would have no clue what Rhaenyra would look like, they just know her name and know the Targaryen hair
@silversaturns
@silversaturns 6 күн бұрын
As King consort Daemon would not be, in fact, addressed as “prince” but as “your grace”. If someone calls him prince, it implies they don’t consider Rhaenyra as the rightful Queen.
@afrobuddy4801
@afrobuddy4801 5 күн бұрын
wrong. king consort is your prince not your grace. Nobody called prince phillip your grace
@silversaturns
@silversaturns 5 күн бұрын
@@afrobuddy4801 That's because the title of King Consort doesn't exist in British monarchy since in theory the title of "King" in any form would end up outranking that of a Queen. Hence Prince Philip was Prince consort instead, whereas the women that marry the King are actually Queen consorts. But still, the show isn't based on real life rules alone. Alicent is also addressed as "your grace" in the show ever since she married Viserys although she's Queen consort/dowager. Laenor was referred as King consort in season 1 and Daemon was also called King consort by Corlys last episode, so the title clearly exists in the show universe
@jackson857
@jackson857 5 күн бұрын
@@silversaturns And yet every character on this show refers to Daemon as Prince and never as "your grace" And as Westeros is basically Britain you don't think perhaps there are parallels with the British monarchy?
@hashshashiinme7656
@hashshashiinme7656 5 күн бұрын
​@@silversaturnsyea he is king consort (corlys said that)
@BhlackBishop
@BhlackBishop 5 күн бұрын
@@afrobuddy4801 Cersei was called your grace mate.
@khalduras784
@khalduras784 6 күн бұрын
I think the reason you dont really hear about House Bracken is because game of thrones tv show limited the amount of houses they decided to involve. House Celtigar and House Velaryon for example were involved with stannis alot during the GoT but the show cut them out almost entirely
@anggi8699
@anggi8699 6 күн бұрын
The worst is what they did to House Manderly and House Glover. Two of the most loyal Houses were potrayed as cowards.
@mattyice9535
@mattyice9535 6 күн бұрын
@@anggi8699 don't even get me started on House Umber. Smalljon Umber doesn't die defending his King but rather is directly a traitor to the Starks that hates his dad. Just awful.
@MFBloosh
@MFBloosh 6 күн бұрын
@@anggi8699 I mean, in order to perfectly adapt everything, they would've needed at least 20 episodes a season. I don't think people realize that. Even seasons 1 and 2, which are the most loyal seasons to the books, left out almost half of all storylines and characters due to time constraints. That's just the way it is. As George himself said, he wrote his story while having the idea that it would be almost impossible to adapt to screen. They even offered him 3 movies first, instead of a show, and he turned it down ASAP. And also, it didn't help the Manderlys or Glovers when seasons 7 and 8 were shortened by DnD, either.
@Muaddweeb02
@Muaddweeb02 6 күн бұрын
Yeah Lord Jonos Bracken appears for like 10 seconds in the scene where Robb is declared King in the North.
@AdmiralHistory
@AdmiralHistory 5 күн бұрын
@@MFBlooshdon’t get me wrong, I expect and understand things have to be cut and shortened to adapt it to screen. However, completely changing a houses identity is too much. Soo much in the show we heard of Northern loyalty, yet only 3 houses (1 of them made up for the show) joined Jon/Sansa for the BotB.
@amykate4459
@amykate4459 6 күн бұрын
If you watch the after the episode, ryan condol says that “It’s not that Alicent is unwilling to hear Rhaenyra, it’s that she has no power, there’s nothing she can do anymore to stop what’s coming.” It’s out of Alicent’s hands now that the men have gone off to war and are no longer listening to her. But maybe knowing this truth will push her to do something in time.
@sosayweall2509
@sosayweall2509 5 күн бұрын
Yup alicent allowed the men around d her to usurp her something rhaneyse warned her about
@ToThe-kk1dm
@ToThe-kk1dm 5 күн бұрын
Exactly, and it is clear why she said “there is no mistake” she has no power over it, it is too late for righting the wrongs. People are too dumb to comprehend it so they call it bad writing
@yaneyd93
@yaneyd93 4 күн бұрын
I mean if you're not a complete moron it's kinda obvious. Then again, they are kinda dull.
@Plagueis_The_Wise
@Plagueis_The_Wise 2 күн бұрын
​@@ToThe-kk1dmit IS bad writing.
@Plagueis_The_Wise
@Plagueis_The_Wise 2 күн бұрын
​@@ToThe-kk1dmyou Blacks fans with your whole "Alicent has no power" bs are annoying and don't know what tf y'all are talking about.
@hockeyfan131993
@hockeyfan131993 6 күн бұрын
next episode is gonna be an ALL TIMER
@shortdrink873
@shortdrink873 6 күн бұрын
It should be, but also it’s directed by Alan Taylor who is a deeply mid director. I’m expecting very uncreative shots.
@hockeyfan131993
@hockeyfan131993 6 күн бұрын
@@shortdrink873 I was actually pleasantly surprised with his last episode but I agree. Like have Miguel come back just for this episode!
@queenxx1690
@queenxx1690 5 күн бұрын
what do you mean is will be the shorted one apparently
@shortdrink873
@shortdrink873 5 күн бұрын
@@hockeyfan131993 Greg gave us the most memorable dragon moment last season, disappointed he didn’t come back. I hope Geeta and Clair get a chance to film some action too
@Samiii90210
@Samiii90210 5 күн бұрын
fr im so excited
@vargr2089
@vargr2089 6 күн бұрын
Daemon isn’t pressing a claim, he is king consort and should be called your grace
@aquele4virou3
@aquele4virou3 6 күн бұрын
I sometimes wonder if reactors to HOTD even know the universe at all or even pay attention. Alicent was called your grace and she’s a consort. Daemon is already royal in his own right, but now he’s the husband of the queen, so its only obvious he should be called your grace. The show used king consort, but he would be prince consort, most likely. I think he is called that in the book, not sure.
@raymonddoe1781
@raymonddoe1781 6 күн бұрын
Well even the black counsel refers to him as "prince"
@vargr2089
@vargr2089 6 күн бұрын
@@raymonddoe1781 they call him prince daemon, but he is also king consort
@alwandemthethwa7594
@alwandemthethwa7594 6 күн бұрын
​​@@aquele4virou3bruh even rheanyra's council doesn't call him your grace, I mean c'mon, calm down
@Sarahlancey
@Sarahlancey 6 күн бұрын
He isn’t King Consort. He is Prince Consort to Queen Rhaenyra…
@MikeCrosoft84
@MikeCrosoft84 6 күн бұрын
Vizzy T did proclaim his daughter to be his heir in front of everybody. They even had a whole ceremony in season 1 where the Lords of the 7 kingdoms came to pledge their loyalty to her.
@rexibhazoboa7097
@rexibhazoboa7097 6 күн бұрын
That was before he had a son. That was before Rheanyra had bastards that she planned to put on the throne after her. He should've done it again, but some thing more meaningful than forcing everyone to serve Rheanyra. Also either disinherit the bastards or come out and say they are bastards then legitimate them. They had years. They could've come up with something clever. These royalties ain't shit.
@jackcrofts-mullin461
@jackcrofts-mullin461 6 күн бұрын
Some 20 years before the war began. Most of the lords that swore their loyalty have since died and their sons have succeeded them. Viserys never had them swear those same vows. As we saw with Borros Baratheon
@anono1432
@anono1432 6 күн бұрын
⁠@@rexibhazoboa7097they’re still children of the monarch & if that was the only issue then Otto and the gang could’ve made her claim one of her & daemon’s kids as heir instead of Jace.
@kevaughnmerrill6534
@kevaughnmerrill6534 6 күн бұрын
It us honorable to stay true to your father's oath. It is dishonorable to reneg on the weird of your house after it was given.​@jackcrofts-mullin461
@howfire
@howfire 6 күн бұрын
@@rexibhazoboa7097 Rhaenyra's children are legitimate, declared by Rhaenyra herself, Laenor and the King, no one can disagree. Also, all her children are dragon riders... so obviously they are Valyrian. So in this particular case even being a bastard shouldn't matter..... it matters because the Hightowers want the throne. That's it. This is far from the reason the greens usurped the throne. It's their pretext and you shouldn't fall for it . Also they are not challenging who will be Rhaenyra's heir they are challenging her directly, Otto started plotting before Rhaenyra even have a son. The king is the law and Jace is legally her heir as she is the Queen and can decree that. The great council named Viserys the king.
@aileenpi73
@aileenpi73 6 күн бұрын
The letter was just: “I am sorry my kid killed your kid, but you know he had it coming, because of the eye thing”. Alicent wants Rhaenyra to bend the knee, she is not looking to end the conflict
@keef5
@keef5 6 күн бұрын
“Alicent should have known the song of ice and fire” Uhhhhhhhhh fuckin how?
@smokeem15
@smokeem15 6 күн бұрын
I think they forgot that the story only stays between the king and his/her heir. That's why Daemon never knew.
@keef5
@keef5 6 күн бұрын
@@smokeem15 that’s kind of a major plot point
@Quzga
@Quzga 5 күн бұрын
The normies gotta be some of the dumbest reactors to this show, but I still enjoy it lol
@smokeem15
@smokeem15 5 күн бұрын
@@Quzga me too! Sometimes when I watch their star wars reactions, I think how did they forget this or that. Then I laugh at the dumbness. 🤣🤣🤣
@RobotRockRod
@RobotRockRod 6 күн бұрын
Why do people think she'd get recognized in Kingslanding so fast There's no magazines, paintings, TV, Cellphones.... regular folks in a BIG city wouldnt recognize strangers so easily. Even in the books, characters forget faces all the time.
@vitaaeris
@vitaaeris 6 күн бұрын
It is still extremely dangerous, especially in war. Young Rhaenyra in episode 4 was recognized by set Harwin, who was working in the city’s watch, while dressed up as a boy-quite easily even.
@RobotRockRod
@RobotRockRod 6 күн бұрын
@@vitaaeris true theres a risk, but as populated as the city is, and so much change in the kinngs guard n city watch, its less likely then more.
@BhlackBishop
@BhlackBishop 5 күн бұрын
That's kinda embarrassing tbh. How was she heir for so many years and still can't get recognize in the city she grew up in. damn
@DigiCount
@DigiCount 3 күн бұрын
Okay but Harwin was already impressed by her since the hunt
@TheRealPanacamanana
@TheRealPanacamanana 6 күн бұрын
Nah her walking through Kingslanding isn't that wild. They don't have photographs of people. Unless you really knew her, you won't just recognize a random high born.
@mattwoodson6427
@mattwoodson6427 6 күн бұрын
They don’t have Instagram. Most people have no idea what rhaenyra looks like.
@keef5
@keef5 6 күн бұрын
Aegon is already the fucking king. You think he’s just gonna hand it back over? Get real. Alicent is right. It’s too late
@josecanal7556
@josecanal7556 6 күн бұрын
That is right what she would say to Aegon " Son I fucked up give back the crown my bestie Rhaenyra told me the other day what really happened" .
@keef5
@keef5 6 күн бұрын
@@josecanal7556 waste of breath
@keef5
@keef5 6 күн бұрын
@@josecanal7556 that’s also the theme of this episode… Rhaenys explained it, the back and forth has begun. The Brackens don’t know why they fight the Blackwoods. Luke was killed, Aegon’s son was murdered in his bed. It doesn’t matter it started as a misunderstanding and that Alicent and Rhaenyra want peace.
@thebossmana
@thebossmana 6 күн бұрын
Hey Aegon I know they literally murdered your son a week ago, but I think we should quit
@homoeconomicus5711
@homoeconomicus5711 5 күн бұрын
It doesn’t matter if Aegon voluntarily hands over the throne. Aegon cannot win a war on his own. He needs an army and the support of other lords. If Alicent joins Rhaenyra’s side and tells the other lords that Rhaenyra is the rightful queen, most of the lords will start to flock to Rhaenyra’s side. Alicent was the previous King’s wife, the lords would likely believe her. And without an army Aegon would have to surrender. But of course Alicent is not going to do that.
@Maxisamo1
@Maxisamo1 6 күн бұрын
The church convo basically accomplished the following: > Rhaenyra exausting all peaceful options that don't involve her surrendering > Alicent now knows she f-ed up ROYALY
@thatkidwiththehoodie
@thatkidwiththehoodie 3 күн бұрын
Royally, huh? ;)
@aileenpi73
@aileenpi73 6 күн бұрын
Daemon is fighting for Rhaenyra, not against her, just like he fought for his brother. All he ever wanted was for his brother and now his wife, to trust him.
@fabian5813
@fabian5813 6 күн бұрын
I Don’t Think You Guys Remember, But It Didn’t Matter What Alicent Misinterpreted, Otto And The Table Were Planning On Installing Aegon As King Long Before Visarys’ Death
@TheTrollingMaster-xr9el
@TheTrollingMaster-xr9el 6 күн бұрын
“ is this when house bracken gets annihilated” “we don’t hear about them” They literally get mentioned in got lol
@mikecoxlong4072
@mikecoxlong4072 6 күн бұрын
Daemon wants to be called your grace because he is married to the queen
@rxmzu
@rxmzu 6 күн бұрын
I get why Alicent doesn’t really accept her mistake, imagine realizing that you fcked up, and kinda started a war, she’s gonna need time to process all of that, although the green council was going to crown aegon anyways (episode 9) they planned that without alicent knowing they just used what alicent heard as an excuse, so probably the war was gonna happen either way, something to consider. And she doesn’t have any power, she can’t stop the war even if she wanted to, the green council ignores her. Also her “relationship” with cole it’s all about power and last episode he became hand and their power dynamic shifted… this episode before he leaves to war he ask for her favor by raising his voice in front of people, (knowing their affair should be kept secret) to assert his power over her. Reluctantly she hands the favor, and when he brushes her fingers, she pulls away. So the little power she thought she had with cole is gone, and the power she thought she had through her brother might be gone too, ‘cause now he’s in debt to cole for saving his live. She is all alone and powerless. (maybe helena on her side)
@josepedrogazmuri1830
@josepedrogazmuri1830 5 күн бұрын
I don't think she doesn't accept her mistake. Her thinking Viserys changed his mind is what helped her side and get on with taking the throne for Aegon, but when she hears Rhaenyra talking about The Song of Ice and Fire and Aegon The Conqueror, I think she realized that she misunderstood Viserys and that he didn't change his mind. But she also knows that Rhaenyra being the rightful heir doesn't change anything (the council had been plotting to take the throne long before Viserys' death), and when she's telling Rhaenyra there had been no mistake, she's really saying that there is nothing that can be done to stop this war, a war that was destined to happen since the day Viserys named her as his heir (as Rhaenys said that men would rather see the world burn than a woman sit the Iron Throne). Alicent will have to side with the Greens as they're her kin, and this is the last goodbye with the girl who once was her best friend.
@unkind6070
@unkind6070 4 күн бұрын
She had no power from the beginning 🤷🏻‍♂️ they were already planning on taking the throne from Rhaenyra
@seanbinkley7363
@seanbinkley7363 6 күн бұрын
Lesson learned. Don't move rocks or else a war starts.
@LeSage28
@LeSage28 6 күн бұрын
The golden dragon in the greens banner is in honor to Aegon's dragon Sunfyre the golden🔥
@arobin6695
@arobin6695 6 күн бұрын
too bad the show has barely shown or mentioned him
@gonnaputsomedirtinyoureye2448
@gonnaputsomedirtinyoureye2448 6 күн бұрын
​@@arobin6695And that is just pissing me off, the only reedeming quality of Aegon. is that dragon
@Kwigs_kun
@Kwigs_kun 6 күн бұрын
14:57 Was anybody else baffled how the dragons all look amazing but that dong looked fake AF?!
@govinddas7876
@govinddas7876 6 күн бұрын
I hate Crispy as much as the next guy lol but you guys underestimate him as a fighter/war time leader. He knows what he's talking about. I cannot belive I just said that about Crispy oh god
@tuvi0032
@tuvi0032 6 күн бұрын
Well it’s true, he may be a c*nt but at least he is good in combat. We’ve just not seen him in action for some time…
@BumpyBaluga
@BumpyBaluga 6 күн бұрын
6 riders on horseback, completely separated from the rest of the garrison... Navi, "Get the Scorpion.." 😳😳
@sosayweall2509
@sosayweall2509 5 күн бұрын
Lol right
@BhlackBishop
@BhlackBishop 5 күн бұрын
she thought they had it in the woods
@estebang1779
@estebang1779 6 күн бұрын
So I guess we finally get to see why the show is called Hot D
@amykate4459
@amykate4459 6 күн бұрын
I know alicent wasn’t immediately responsive to what rhaenyra told her, but i honestly think she’s going to see the light before the season is over. Rhaenyra has opened her eyes now, and ultimately alicent won’t be able to ignore that, even if she tries.
@Marta-uv4id
@Marta-uv4id 6 күн бұрын
Even in the teaser for the next episode, it seems like her entire mindset has shifted. She truly doesn't care anymore because she knows now that everything she's done since she was forced to talk to Viserys has been for nothing. She was slightly suicidal before, as seen in the bath scene, but from this point on it seems like she genuinely won't care about her life.
@liljackypaper
@liljackypaper 6 күн бұрын
There is literally nothing Alicent can do. She could go to her son and tell him she made a mistake. What do you think that would achieve? You think he would give up the throne? All that would do would make him listen to her even less. It's too late. War is coming.
@amykate4459
@amykate4459 6 күн бұрын
@@Marta-uv4id yes, it seems like she’s even more over what the greens are doing at this point. pushing back against aegon. i can’t wait to see it!
@amykate4459
@amykate4459 6 күн бұрын
@@liljackypaper yes, exactly. the army is out for war, criston and aegon are no longer listening to alicent but taking their own actions regardless of what she says as we saw in the small council with the greens. otto is gone from court which weakens alicent’s position even more. she cannot reel these men back in. but i do think we’re going to see her become increasingly more angry about her own position and looking for another option by end of season. at least i hope so.
@travistaylor2980
@travistaylor2980 6 күн бұрын
The King would most likely kill her if she told him the truth.
@rolddyauguste3951
@rolddyauguste3951 6 күн бұрын
Daemon's future is sealed, but it will be glorious above God's eyes.
@CokeZeroHero
@CokeZeroHero 6 күн бұрын
Im happy they’re going with the Harrenhal is haunted angle and the introduction to Alys Rivers was creepy asf. Daemon needs to leave asap The souls of the burnt that Aegon the the first did to them in his conquest of Westeros that’s why the castle is badly destroyed 🐉
@chelscara
@chelscara 6 күн бұрын
The way I’d hear that shit and immediately be figuring out how to bounce while still being in control cause _wtf_ bitch who just says that?? Right in front of the Weirwood Tree??? It’s definitely gonna happen now 😭😭😂😂
@garethlawton5278
@garethlawton5278 6 күн бұрын
Otto Hightower started the war with the small council who already had plans to seat Aegon. Aemond started the fighting. There was also no way Alicent would know of the song of ice and fire, as it was a Targaryen secret passed down to only the heirs since Aegon.
@govinddas7876
@govinddas7876 6 күн бұрын
ngl Hightower horse drip was🔥
@thaispereira7311
@thaispereira7311 6 күн бұрын
Daemon isnt a prince. He is king consort. So calling him your grace is right
@Adamantium93
@Adamantium93 6 күн бұрын
We've actually seen a Blackwood in GoT: The Three-Eyed-Raven, the man under the tree who taught Bran how to use his abilities, was a Blackwood-Targaryen bastard named Brynden Rivers. While it isn't brought up in the show, he had a half-brother who was a Bracken, and the two feuded pretty much their entire lives.
@winteriscoming3583
@winteriscoming3583 6 күн бұрын
In the show 3ER told Bran he was waiting for him for thousands of years. But BR should be around 120 years old at that time. So i think the show 3ER is completely a different character.
@govinddas7876
@govinddas7876 6 күн бұрын
ah The Bloodraven... how cool would it have been to see him in action
@AdmiralHistory
@AdmiralHistory 5 күн бұрын
I’m pretty sure the show confirmed he wasn’t Brynden Rivers but just the Three Eyed Raven. It would’ve confused the casuals too much
@govinddas7876
@govinddas7876 5 күн бұрын
@@AdmiralHistory to be honest, nothing he did as the three eyed raven had any relevance to him being the bloodraven so I dont think there's a point to show that in the series.
@mattwoodson6427
@mattwoodson6427 6 күн бұрын
It’s too late! Alicent knows she made a mistake but there’s no turning back now.
@dwnkaomwn3953
@dwnkaomwn3953 6 күн бұрын
Alicent's brother was in the tourney during the Season 1 premiere. Daemon tripped his horse as a way to disrespect Otto.
@NickelAntonius
@NickelAntonius 6 күн бұрын
Dany's eggs from GOT are already in Essos. They were traded there 40 years before HOTD starts.
@rohanshende4338
@rohanshende4338 6 күн бұрын
And they were from Dreamfyre. Heleana's dragon
@miracleyang3048
@miracleyang3048 6 күн бұрын
Not according to Show runners they changed it to Syrax
@MagicSecretsandMysteries
@MagicSecretsandMysteries 6 күн бұрын
It was never confirmed they were dreamfyres dragons. Only speculated because there were THREE stolen eggs. Since it's not confirmed, it would be wiser to assume those eggs could have belonged to any one of the *thousands of dragons* that roamed the world during the 5000 year reign of the Valyrian empire
@rohanshende4338
@rohanshende4338 6 күн бұрын
@@MagicSecretsandMysteries Team Blacks excuse for all the show favors : "ïN tHe bOoKs iT wAs oNLy sPEcuLaTiOn 😭". If you really love HOTD, stay true to the books. We all know they show runners are heavily biased towards the blacks.
@miracleyang3048
@miracleyang3048 6 күн бұрын
@@rohanshende4338 Wait for " it was a biased source"
@velvaka
@velvaka 6 күн бұрын
After watching the rttv reactions of house of dragon i realy need a breack from robs dogging that reaction to this soothing
@K.MTamim
@K.MTamim 6 күн бұрын
Hate that mf
@CokeZeroHero
@CokeZeroHero 6 күн бұрын
I tried RTTV they could be annoying and triggering
@Sensationalhehe
@Sensationalhehe 6 күн бұрын
Rob is so annoying i had to unsubscribe
@wednesdayapril5435
@wednesdayapril5435 6 күн бұрын
​@@Sensationalhehesame dude i like watching the other dudes but rob is just too damn annoying for me to bother
@Sensationalhehe
@Sensationalhehe 6 күн бұрын
@@wednesdayapril5435 he just be saying anything the other guys are cool but rob just ruins tho vibe fr
@seymourasces2062
@seymourasces2062 6 күн бұрын
The Blackwoods and Brackens are like the bloods and the crips, they’ve had beef for centuries. They’ll use any excuse to murder each other.
@mykeyacosta8434
@mykeyacosta8434 6 күн бұрын
It's so sad that rhaenyra is seeing the future of the targaryens, and the survival of all humans, and everyone else just wants blood and war. Not seeing the bigger picture.
@SuperStarJay08
@SuperStarJay08 6 күн бұрын
Hahahaha why did Chris get so excited at the BJ scene???? 🤣😂🤣😂🤣 I expected that kind of behavior from Pat 😂😂
@jamaalellison3076
@jamaalellison3076 6 күн бұрын
One of the recurring themes in both shows is that the advice the small council offers to rulers isn't always valuable information or useful history rarely remembers the council but always remembers the monarchy and the decisions they make. Robert wanted Dany dead in season one fearing she would raise and army and attack Ned disagreed he was wrong.
@jackevans6200
@jackevans6200 6 күн бұрын
I know people are griping about how much of a season is a slow burn, but this episode really represents the 'calm before the storm' phase (if next week's trailer is anything to go by. Also interesting to see how the other noble families are using this chaotic power vacuum as an end to settle old scores (The Blackwood/Bracken feud which is clearly inspired by the Percy-Neville feud from the Wars of the Roses)
@Addam_
@Addam_ 6 күн бұрын
According to the director of this episode yes, those are supposed to be Dany's eggs with the Silver/Blueish one being baby Viserys unhatched egg. And before people start whining about the book, even George himself has said "the book is the book and the show is the show".
@kstewsoctopus
@kstewsoctopus 6 күн бұрын
It's kind of unbelievable that you guys react to shows for a living and still don't understand main plot points. I'm disappointed at the women on that couch who call Alicent a bitch qhen she was basically groomed by her father and Viserys and forced to have a male heir (for no reason now) at 14 years old, A CHILD. When she talked to Rhaenyra she realized everything she has suffered was for nothing. Her life's at risk, her children's and she's powerless because her father is gone, her children think she's loyal to her former friend, the small council won't listen to her, Larys is watching her every move. What can she possibly do now??? Media literacy is dead.
@govinddas7876
@govinddas7876 6 күн бұрын
oh boo hoo. Everyones life sucks
@DAFR2849
@DAFR2849 5 күн бұрын
Womp womp, we’ll always hate Alicunt
@theblackwheelbarrow1562
@theblackwheelbarrow1562 6 күн бұрын
Why would any of you expect Alicent to just accept this after what happened? "Oh, Aegon. I know your son was killed but we were wrong." What was Rhaenyra expecting? Be fr lmao.
@arraikcruor6407
@arraikcruor6407 6 күн бұрын
The Brackens and Blackwoods are not simple folk. They are rival houses dating back to Age of Heroes. They find any reason to fued and kill each other.
@rafaelsantos-nl9jd
@rafaelsantos-nl9jd 6 күн бұрын
to be fair, Daemon has all the right to be called "Your grace" from one point of view you can say is ever a tribute to Rhaenyra. Alicent for example was never rule of westeros, she was just Queen Consort, but people call her "your grace". "prince" is Daemon title by his all authority, by allowing people to call him "your grace" he is basically accepting his position is thanks to the fact his wife is the ruler, and he is her King Consort.
@viggolover1
@viggolover1 6 күн бұрын
Melisandre was around when the dance of dragons, she was 400 years old by the time of Game of Thrones
@Ginsan94
@Ginsan94 6 күн бұрын
You heard about Bracken House when Catelyn Stark arrested Tyrion and naming soldiers liege lords.
@jaiboss123hunter
@jaiboss123hunter 6 күн бұрын
I love how no matter how graphic or disgusting the scene Chris always has his eyes plastered to the screen not even a blink
@GabbyOssi
@GabbyOssi 5 күн бұрын
I don't think you picked up on it, but Alicent's brother is also being a bit racist against Cole. When he was talking about him having a low beginning and being Dornish. Oldtown where the Hightowers are from is right by the border to Dorne and there is a long history of fighting since before Dorne joined the Seven Kingdoms. As much as we hate Cole, Gwayne Hightower was not the most sympatic character in that scene 😅
@bakthihapuarachchi3447
@bakthihapuarachchi3447 5 күн бұрын
Yes but Cole being Dornish was something completely made up right? In the books he's from the Strormlands
@GabbyOssi
@GabbyOssi 5 күн бұрын
@@bakthihapuarachchi3447 I think he's not from Dorne but he has dornish parentage. At least in the show, I don't remember if it's specified in the book.
@josegiron7008
@josegiron7008 6 күн бұрын
But like wtf can alicent do ??? I know plp hate on her cuz she is letting the men in her court go above her head but I don't think plp take into the account who is claiming the crown, it is rhaenyra who is claiming it that is why she is able to have at least a sense of control over her court. It is Aegon who is claiming the crown alicent got no power in all of this so I do get that last scene by alicent saying like bruh wtf do you expect me to do 😂😂 also all of alicent kids are older than rhaenyra little babies, changing and controlling grown ass man without political power is impossible
@shortdrink873
@shortdrink873 6 күн бұрын
If seasmoke takes a new rider, I take it as Laenor has died somewhere out there
@JoePesos
@JoePesos 5 күн бұрын
Alicent is not wrong in that it is far too late, there is absolutely nothing that she can do to stop the war. Aegon will not step down to allow the person who (by virtue of decisions) murdered his son to take the throne. So her saying there was no mistake while not accurate is fine.
@Chi11monger
@Chi11monger 6 күн бұрын
4:52 That Killamanjaro audio clip KILLED me LMFAOOOOOOOOO
@heirofslytherin3890
@heirofslytherin3890 6 күн бұрын
When Viserys is preventing war he's indecisive.. When Rhae is being indecisive, shes preventing war.. Damn the double standards
@mostek17
@mostek17 6 күн бұрын
In a words of Slim Charles: "it's what war is, you know? Once you in it, you in it. If it's a lie, then we fight on that lie. But we gotta fight."
@cents2mp
@cents2mp 6 күн бұрын
This is my favorite comment hands down
@user-se3qm2se2t
@user-se3qm2se2t 3 күн бұрын
It is interesting the bias when you dislike someone, the brother of Alicent is basically telling Cole that he is too low born for that position and you "like him" for it. sigh
@DAFR2849
@DAFR2849 2 күн бұрын
Yes bc we hate Crispy more 💀
@prico3358
@prico3358 6 күн бұрын
What started the war was Rany escaping to the brothel, sleeping with ser cristen and lying to Alicent. There she started wearing green. Fight me.
@bakthihapuarachchi3447
@bakthihapuarachchi3447 5 күн бұрын
Words of wisdom fly from your mouth, Your Grace
@askyeyv7039
@askyeyv7039 4 күн бұрын
It's not even that. It's the fact she trusted her and by doing that she turned against her own father and let viserys remove him as hand of the king.
@sanjaykarthicks1226
@sanjaykarthicks1226 3 күн бұрын
Why lying to Alicent matters? Even if Rhaenyra was a Mary Sue, she would still be usurped because she's a woman That's the point of this war
@carriesmith742
@carriesmith742 6 күн бұрын
27:22 You have to remember most of the common people have no idea what the royal family look like at a glance because they're always in the Red Keep, not living among the commoners. There's no TV or phones for their faces to be splashed everywhere so they have to just know silver hair and violet eyes (in the books) mean Valyrian blood.
@AtlantaGuns
@AtlantaGuns 6 күн бұрын
Did a ghost just pop out of no where and spoil Daemon’s ending for us all? 🤣
@bakthihapuarachchi3447
@bakthihapuarachchi3447 6 күн бұрын
Unfortunately she's not a ghost and will play a bigger role later
@sheldonfalor8134
@sheldonfalor8134 6 күн бұрын
@@bakthihapuarachchi3447 Correct, she ends up marrying Aemon Targaryen later down the road
@sanjaykarthicks1226
@sanjaykarthicks1226 3 күн бұрын
@@sheldonfalor8134 She doesn't marry him though She'll get pregnant with Aemond's child and stays as his mistress
@anais6654
@anais6654 6 күн бұрын
Omg Daemon is not taking Harrendal in his name can you guys think sometimes ?
@cents2mp
@cents2mp 6 күн бұрын
Nope we can't
@DizzyCarrots
@DizzyCarrots 5 күн бұрын
It does not in fact rain all the time in Seattle, despite what all the people who've never been to the beautiful state of Washington tell you.
@lilajark
@lilajark 6 күн бұрын
Alicent has so many other reasons for crowning Aegon and I wish the writers went with them rather than making her misunderstand Viserys in his last moments. Most of all, that Aegon is the rightful heir by law and precedent. Viserys didn't even codify a law saying that the eldest child, regardless of gender should be the heir. He just wanted special treatment in this one case which doesn't work. He didn't gather his lords and make them re-swear their oaths to Rhaenyra after he had a son, so of course many lords believe that it should be Aegon who sits the Iron Throne. It's always been the eldest son. Any woman in Alicent's shoes would have been upset by the fact that their son wasn't the heir. And we all saw how Viserys treated Alicent and her children. He could have stopped at Aegon, but he made her have three more kids after him. She endured him for years and ofc she wanted something out of it. The writers of the show stripped women of ambition and character flaws which made them very flat.
@golden5522
@golden5522 6 күн бұрын
Im surprised after that hanging fest of Rat Catchers in the city they let the King stroll through the city and get Drunk and no body attack him after that
@Targussysussy
@Targussysussy 3 күн бұрын
Seriously? You want to attack the king after what he did? Must be a death wish
@juanitajones6900
@juanitajones6900 6 күн бұрын
Alicent hasn't had any real say or influence since Viserys' death.
@gillisthom
@gillisthom 6 күн бұрын
Did Surj just come from a court trying to win custody of his kids?
@datguy3581
@datguy3581 6 күн бұрын
The king's guards at the Great Sept were Aegon's goons so I think that explains how they let that meeting happen. They aren't the brightest guys. Additionally, the guards would be on the lookout for suspicious looking men - not women.
@CodLiverOil8
@CodLiverOil8 6 күн бұрын
None of you are ones to talk about look's! 🤣
@EnesSarbin
@EnesSarbin 6 күн бұрын
Team Green all the way... I hope Daeron appear this season
@DAFR2849
@DAFR2849 5 күн бұрын
🤮
@majoavila4794
@majoavila4794 6 күн бұрын
I really needed to hear that today, thank you.
@TessaxMusic95
@TessaxMusic95 6 күн бұрын
Anyone else notice Dyanna in the bar serving drinks? The guy hit her butt. Ugh. Aegon took her against her will last season 😢 she was a servant for Helaena & aegon
@govinddas7876
@govinddas7876 6 күн бұрын
yeah I wonder if Larys has an eye on her. He seeks secrets afterall
@LucerysOwner
@LucerysOwner 6 күн бұрын
What? Daeron (and now also Tessarion) mentioned again in this episode? Let's gooooo 🗣️🗣️ Perhaps we might get a short glimpse of him by the end of the season. (I'm being delusional 😬 knowing too well that Ryan kept him for S3)
@johncombs829
@johncombs829 6 күн бұрын
Watching the Normies shows why the whole "Black/Green TEAM" thing is stupid. It so slanted Black that Pat is even on their side. I have forced myself to watch with an unbiased eye. There is no way Alicent can tell her sons. She would be killed or locked in her room forever. Lastly the ladies are so trigged by CC, it makes me feel he written that way to troll them. Lol
@ent66
@ent66 5 күн бұрын
CC is the best character hahaha
@RamonaLeigh
@RamonaLeigh 6 күн бұрын
People making fun of that guy’s body last week are all eating crow from their hats this week. His body is fine as hell.
@hydramarinee
@hydramarinee 6 күн бұрын
9:36 Normie ladies swooning over the new "green".
@holyfire11
@holyfire11 6 күн бұрын
Ut oh. Yall remember who else was sent across the sea? A certain son of corylis and rhaenys ;)
@shibashibaa6665
@shibashibaa6665 6 күн бұрын
10:30 The way they speak about dragons is how we speak about nuclear weapons in modern time. Use nuclear weapons and so will your enemy which leads to your own destruction. And the existence of nuclear weapons is a weapon in itself because of the fear, just like with dragons.
@abthedragon4921
@abthedragon4921 6 күн бұрын
I don't think it matters at this point if Alicent genuinely believes there was a mistake or not. I'm sure she believes Rhaenyra deep down and just doesn't want to admit it but even if she does admit it, it's too late at this point. Both sides have lost people and are raising armies. Plus, Alicent is pretty much powerless now. Her strongest ally has been dismissed as Hand of the King and her sons who already didn't listen to her on the regular sure aren't going to listen to her now. She can pretty much only play the hand she's dealt, even if it is a terrible hand.
@davidnobre5660
@davidnobre5660 6 күн бұрын
dude the armors in this show are SOOOOO good looking
@funimationtoons6658
@funimationtoons6658 6 күн бұрын
The dragons are gonna HAWK TUAH next episode
@renzovasallo5778
@renzovasallo5778 6 күн бұрын
GOT season 8 all over again...
@alazkaalazka6087
@alazkaalazka6087 6 күн бұрын
Bullshit. In no way comparable to that dumpster fire.
@AK-pw3oq
@AK-pw3oq 6 күн бұрын
It didn't matter whether Alicent misunderstood or not there was always a plan to usurp the throne without her
@ladyseph9045
@ladyseph9045 6 күн бұрын
"You will die in this place". Such an ominous and perfectly placed moment of foreshadowing for Daemon while portraying just how haunted Harrenhall truly is. Harren the Black spent 40 years building that gigantic castle, killing who knows how many thousands of slaves to get it done. The day it was finished Aegon the Conqueror arrived in Westeros, and soon after he raized it with Balerion, killing thousands more inside. Doubt there's a castle anywhere else in the GoT universe more haunted than Harrenhall. And all the more fitting place for Daemon to meet his doom, though it won't be for awhile yet. :) Iykyk.
@VioletBaudelaire-e3n
@VioletBaudelaire-e3n 6 күн бұрын
I'm kind of appalled by the lack of empathy towards Alicent from the women on that couch, I don't expect a lot from the men. HOTD spent an entire first season showing how Alicent cared for Rhaenyra and tried to protect her. She was forced to marry at 14 and have children and lost her best friend in the process. How can anyone really blame her for being the way she is? She doesn't even have a mother so how can she know how to be one. People just heard she's a villain in the books and completely ignore what we're being shown. Please use your brains, watching shows is kind of your job. Olivia Cooke is acting her ass off just for you to completely misinterpret that Sept scene, I-
@liumang5309
@liumang5309 6 күн бұрын
Media Literacy is kind of dead, haha. This show, in particular has exposed a lot of reactors for lacking in that department. And I'm not saying that you shouldn't have favorites. But it's really easy to fall into justifications when you decide one side is evil and the other is not. Fans are better at seeing the nuance probably because they get to watching, get mad, and then think about the nuance. Reactors need to react in real-time and usually double down on their reactionary thinking. Especially in big groups like this, you just get hyped and into the shit slinging. Not all reactors are like this though. Boldcast are pretty decent. They at least have a long discussion at the end that shows effort.
@govinddas7876
@govinddas7876 6 күн бұрын
can only women feel empathy for female characters? You talk a lot about understanding people and then make sweeping generalizations, making you a hypocrite.
@DAFR2849
@DAFR2849 5 күн бұрын
It’s very understandable to hate the characters of Alicent
@TheKyuubi14
@TheKyuubi14 6 күн бұрын
Great reaction guys. The POV shots were amazing; they made you feel like you were there riding lol And to the “who started this war?” Debate, I personally think it comes down to Otto. He moved the first chess piece (Allicent). Although it could be said that the bloodline was cursed from the moment Jahaerys held his succession council at Harrenhal… and Harrenhal is like, infamously cursed lmao
@rexibhazoboa7097
@rexibhazoboa7097 6 күн бұрын
Since Viserys holds the most power and responsibility, it falls to him. For one, he brought Otto back as hand. Jahaerys solved his conflict. Viserys was the one who let the conflict ensue. Begging for his family to play together is not effective.
@TheKyuubi14
@TheKyuubi14 6 күн бұрын
@@rexibhazoboa7097 I KINDA disagree. Because at the same time, it could be said that Jahaerys ruined his reign of peace by naming Viserys heir; just saying. Don’t get me wrong, I loved Viserys, but he was a great person and a horrible king. I agree that he’s at fault for bringing Otto back, but nevertheless, Viserys didn’t physically move the first chess piece of the war; Otto did. In summary, the gods played with the fate of Jahaerys’ family by deciding to hold a succession council there >>> which led to Viserys (a great person, but weak king) being chosen >>> which led to Viserys choosing a woman as Heir >>> which led to Otto moving his daughter in on Viserys >>> which led to the birth of Aegon, and etc.
@marcobolton4638
@marcobolton4638 4 күн бұрын
What really started the war was them naming every single child Aegon
@2ndlegend125
@2ndlegend125 4 күн бұрын
I think we're gonna start seeing Cole in his element. He was born to be a warrior, not a player of the game.
@tylerbramhall6596
@tylerbramhall6596 6 күн бұрын
Whoever is the editor who threw in “Killimanjaro” and a few other Halo references deserves a massive raise. Legit crying laughing 😂
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