Not only Rimsky-Korsakov: see www.persee.fr/doc/ahrf_0003-4436_2005_num_340_1_2767 (in French).

Probably would not be as overlooked if it were one of those with a nickname. Just a number but the equal of any of those with a nickname.

How about Symphony #102 The Underplayed?????

@@jeffreyjeziorski1480 i heard that unofficially this is nicknamed “The Romantic”. Unsurprisingly bc I think this symphony is arguably the most romantic sounding symphony of his - particularly the second movement.

Yes, the same with the glorious no 99

@@ketanfernandes4094 The nickname ‘Romantic’ refers to Bruckners’s Symphony 4 of 1874 (constantly revived up to 1888); it was written at a time when Romanticism was the spirit of the age. Haydn’s Symphony 102 of 1794 is an entirely Classical symphony with pretty much zero characteristics of such an alien musical movement from the next century.

agree! he was so important and creative, and still he remains too much unappreciated. Not so much a composer for the common public, but of the utmost importance for the musicians, composers, music theory and history.

Interesting. It's also the one that sounds the most like early Beethoven (to my ear, anyway). I wonder if that's part of the reason.

@@GoldinDr YES!!! That is something that Maestro Bernstein told his conducting students. They were to conduct this work as if they were conducting Beethoven. Just after I finished my master class with the maestro, I was touring with my college's touring choir and brass & percussion ensemble and we were in Long Island. Maestro Bernstein was conducting the NY Philharmonic that evening doing this Haydn Symphony and the Bruckner 6th. A fellow student and I took the train into NYC and got cancellation tickets. The seats were literally a couple of feet from Maestro Bernstein. As the first movement ended and there was a break for latecomers to be seated, he turned around and recognized me and gave me a subtle wave. The woman sitting next to me asked me for my autograph thinking that I was someone important, however, I was only a lowly poor student at the time. To me, that concert was the best lesson on how to conduct this work. He made this Haydn Symphony sound as exciting as if it were the Beethoven 9th. The audience applauded with a STANDING OVATION for both this work and the Bruckner!

When I first heard it, I was suprised how similar it was to Beethoven's 4th.

@@ellisteinhauer3366 Beethoven studied counterpoint under Haydn.

@@GoldinDr Bernstein played Haydn because it was Haydn and he both liked and understood the music, not because it ‘sounds…like early Beethoven’.

Wouldn't be surprised. Beethoven was a pupil of Haydn around the time, and Haydn even wanted Beethoven to put "pupil of Haydn" at the bottom of his (Beethoven's) compositions. But Beethoven refused! lol

@@winterdesert1 Haydn taught Beethoven counterpoint* from his arrival in Vienna in November 1792 until Haydn set off for his second long visit to England in January 1794; the lessons were not particularly successful. Notwithstanding that, Beethoven chose to dedicate his Opus 2 piano sonatas to Haydn on his return to Vienna, and indeed played through them for him, he declined however to append ‘Pupil of Haydn’ as requested by Haydn to this specific dedication. * A form of technical musical grammar using the standard manual of the age, Gradus ad Parnassum by Fux.

"The miracle"?? no...."surprise".....

@@sarahjones-jf4pr No, the "surprise" symphony is actually #94.

You are correct: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symphony_No._96_(Haydn)

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