Hazbin Hotel's MASTERY of TONE

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#cartoon #vivziepop
How do you go from an aesthetic to a story? How do you find variety in a simple emotional mood? Charlie Morningstar and all her creepy bubbly friends provide some ingenious templates for this too-often-overlooked element of storytelling.
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0:00 - the difficulty with tone
2:18 - character design
5:29 - neutral elements
6:46 - adjacent terms
8:51 - going specific
9:28 - DEPTH
14:44 - aeronauts tangent
16:30 - why cartoon?
19:59 - happy day in hell

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@schnee1
@schnee1 2 ай бұрын
Who's your favorite Hazbin Hotel character and why?
@blushcolors
@blushcolors 2 ай бұрын
husk!! we've gotten to see some glimpses of his past, but I find him as a compelling character that has great/intruiging chemistry with angel and alastor.
@tamarbeker1701
@tamarbeker1701 2 ай бұрын
Angel Dust. He's just the one with the most interesting arc
@martindamasseno5164
@martindamasseno5164 2 ай бұрын
I find Alastor to be very compelling!
@stinkypete4423
@stinkypete4423 2 ай бұрын
Sir Pentious
@tabsi2436
@tabsi2436 2 ай бұрын
Lucifer. He is the most powerful King of hell, but is not interested in his Power. I think thats paradoxe and also the proof that he is a good being. ❤
@randomdragons
@randomdragons 2 ай бұрын
hazbin getting the schnee treatment?? oh this is a good day
@Luna-fn2nv
@Luna-fn2nv 2 ай бұрын
a happy day, even
@anastasiagamgoneishvili
@anastasiagamgoneishvili 2 ай бұрын
It’s a happy day in youtube:D
@ashlazdanovich8396
@ashlazdanovich8396 2 ай бұрын
My thoughts exactly!
@blazingeagle2820
@blazingeagle2820 2 ай бұрын
What is the schnee treatment?
@granadeofmetaldemons3099
@granadeofmetaldemons3099 2 ай бұрын
Yeah ! I couldn't believe my eyes
@AviciPerry
@AviciPerry 2 ай бұрын
You just indirectly answered the answer “who is this show for? Who is its audience?” It’s for every adult/young adult that loves animation but feels like the medium has left them behind because animation as a medium is beautiful and can potently evoke any emotion but it has been confined to sanitized children media for a while now because they believe there isn’t an audience for it but there is
@Pamela-dv7gb
@Pamela-dv7gb 2 ай бұрын
For me the fact kids watch it isn’t a problem but it’s suck that for people if kids watch something that mean this thing is bad and generally the « kids » are teenagers and some teenagers that are as mature than most of adults
@BestWayKilla
@BestWayKilla 2 ай бұрын
As an adult that loves a great animated series, I disagree fervently. I don't like this show at all and think the writing in it is some of the worst, most embarrassing I've ever seen. You don't speak for me.
@Mandus_The_Mad
@Mandus_The_Mad 2 ай бұрын
@@BestWayKilla Interesting, what stands out to you as an example of bad writing within the show?
@BestWayKilla
@BestWayKilla 2 ай бұрын
​@@Mandus_The_Mad The constant tonal whiplash, where things are played as serious only to be made fodder for jokes, and the typical Reddit atheist take on Christian theology, for starters. But mostly, it's the juvenile fascination with painfully unfunny sex jokes and incessant swearing. The obvious comparison is to a show like South Park, but I prefer to contrast it with another show known for its liberal use of profanity, Trailer Park Boys. Notably, the first 7 seasons, when the creator Mike Clattenburg was the head writer. While there was a ton of dirty humor and constant swearing (some of it even part of the plot, like Ricky's insistence on needing to be able to swear to defend himself in court), there was also a key element that is absent in Vivziepop's writing: actual wit. The laughs came as much from the ridiculous scenarios the characters found or put themselves in and how their actions/reactions only made things even more out of control. People wouldn't key in on the profanity and crude humor of Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss so much if they were in service to actual humorous jokes and situations.
@SomebodyWhoExists23
@SomebodyWhoExists23 2 ай бұрын
i think the show is more for teens or young adults at the age of 16- to 22 years
@username6575
@username6575 2 ай бұрын
Ur point about Hazbin “welcoming back” an audience that has been left behind by kids animation is why I believe Hazbin is so popular with teenagers (demographic often left behind by media bcus they exist in the awkward middle ground between childhood and adulthood that tv notoriously has trouble pandering too)
@paaperman
@paaperman 2 ай бұрын
These gap years are often filled with anime, because the stories have more middle ground in the levels of maturity within its storytelling. I've said this exact idea to people many times. Glad to see someone else with a similar thesis.
@artisticbeautybyhanako6801
@artisticbeautybyhanako6801 2 ай бұрын
Much to the chagrin and reluctance of elder, adult fans lol I wont harass the minors who do sneakily watch it behind parental backs, but it should at least definitely be watched with guidance to have healthy discussions after its darker moments
@KaterynaM_UA
@KaterynaM_UA 2 ай бұрын
@@artisticbeautybyhanako6801 being a teenager way too young for watching horror and sexually explicit content and doing it anyways is a universal experience. I'd say it's actually part of learning how to engage with different complex topics without guidance. All "guidance" should have already happened by that point. And let's be honest, most of the time it didn't.
@jaspurrz
@jaspurrz 2 ай бұрын
​@KaterynaM_UA you're so right. my parents never gave me the birds and the bees talk, and everything i learned was through media i really shouldnt have been watching
@djfrost7801
@djfrost7801 2 ай бұрын
Im a minor… I shouldn’t be watching hazbin but I really do enjoy the show. Since the pandemic,I’ve been exposed to all kinds of stuffs from the internet.I also live without my parents for who knows how long. What matters most is that you have morales and is able to differentiate between fiction and reality,no? 🥹
@lordx8844
@lordx8844 2 ай бұрын
Schrodinger’s Alastor: while not observed Alastor will be in a supermoralitycircle state. He’s an outright evil sadist and just some dude who likes helping, once observed, he will take one of the two states.
@fishyfishyfishy500akabs8
@fishyfishyfishy500akabs8 2 ай бұрын
However like The Dark spot in the light, it is always in service of ego. Even in his attempts to seem altruistic this is usually only in: A.) When he wants control/is in control of a situation B.) When he feels that he can properly “square up” to whatever opposition lays ahead
@cryptidofthemarshes1680
@cryptidofthemarshes1680 2 ай бұрын
Macochist is when you like being hurt. Sadist is when you like hurting others
@lordx8844
@lordx8844 2 ай бұрын
@@cryptidofthemarshes1680 there. Happy?
@Luna-fn2nv
@Luna-fn2nv 2 ай бұрын
The collective word for nieces and nephews is niblings!
@schnee1
@schnee1 2 ай бұрын
oh cool! never heard that!
@thirdcoinedge
@thirdcoinedge 2 ай бұрын
I'm gonna use that from now on.
@botanicalitus4194
@botanicalitus4194 2 ай бұрын
its also a gender neutral way to refer to them, a lot of people with lgbt family also use it and its such a cute word
@47ratsinahoodie
@47ratsinahoodie 2 ай бұрын
It's one of my favorite words lmao
@henryhere
@henryhere 2 ай бұрын
That actually sounds so cute. Someday one of my siblings is gonna have kids, and eventually they're gonna be adults, and I will still call them niblings no matter how much it makes them seem like tiny children specifically because it will bother them.
@Sootielove
@Sootielove 2 ай бұрын
It is a fascinating showcase of why I like Hazbin Hotel more than so many other stories that try to go "what if this childlike, innocent thing was filled with gore?" It's not just fairy tale + violence, it's asking how would those same messages of hope and morality interact with a darker reality. Characters have flaws a lessons to learn, but those lessons aren't going to be as easy or simple as heaven = good, hell = bad, and Charlie is a great example of a character who both has to learn that life is not innocent but she should still be motivated by those innocent ideals to make the world around her better. It's funny comparing Charlie with Alastor, who doesn't believe in the power of friendship or the aim of her hotel, but ends up struggling in the finale where others (e.g. Angel Dust) don't because he refuses to rely on other people and accept the ideals of change and support. It's like the way he's established himself as the Radio Demon, never changing since the popularity of radio shows in the 1920s..
@thirdcoinedge
@thirdcoinedge 2 ай бұрын
Exactly. It's not just a deconstruction of Disney tropes - it's a reconstruction.
@wildfire9280
@wildfire9280 Ай бұрын
⁠@@thirdcoinedge Actually, that was the century before the 1920s.
@Internetflaming
@Internetflaming 2 ай бұрын
never thought id see a video essay praising hazbin hotel
@praetor2997
@praetor2997 2 ай бұрын
Why?
@sunnyM42
@sunnyM42 2 ай бұрын
same, especially from schnee
@sanzhsn
@sanzhsn 2 ай бұрын
​@@praetor2997The pacing was a bit shit I feel. As if 2 or 3 seasons worth of material was forced into 8 episodes (which isn't unfair to do if you expect that there won't be second season)
@PoisonFlower765
@PoisonFlower765 2 ай бұрын
@@sanzhsn But they were greenlit for two seasons years before the show began airing 😭
@viddog6457
@viddog6457 2 ай бұрын
FUCK YES!
@fishraposo7192
@fishraposo7192 2 ай бұрын
""It's welcoming you back" is such a perfect way to encapsule how I feel about Hazbin Hotel. I rewatched it so many times at this point and could never put my finger on why. This is why. It brings me back to the hopeful world of my childhood I got ripped out of.
@dungeonhardware7430
@dungeonhardware7430 2 ай бұрын
Another great example of this is 'Don't hug me I'm scared' (Puppet TV plus horror) and found footage / amalogue horror like 'Blair Witch Project' and 'Greylock' (mixing the comfiness or nostalgia of old footage with horror)
@schnee1
@schnee1 2 ай бұрын
ive been toying with doing a video essay on "don't hug me im scared" for ages, totally ingenious work!
@dungeonhardware7430
@dungeonhardware7430 2 ай бұрын
@@schnee1 Omg please do. Idk how a story so focused on Lore (like DHMIS and Greylock) are able to be engaging and communicate themes simulatneuosly. Maybe that could be an avenue to have a look at it through.
@tortis6342
@tortis6342 2 ай бұрын
@@schnee1 I would love to watch a video on Don't Hug Me, I'm Scared. I think there's a lot of aspects to it that often get ignored in favor of trying to unravel the "plot" or "the real meaning."
@kadalix
@kadalix 2 ай бұрын
something i picked up on when you mentioned "rebelling against heaven" was that the ONLY THE EXORCISTS were committing genocide and everyone else in heaven had no idea (other than the archangel), but even then there are angels like Emily who fundamentally understand how wrong it is to punish hell further once they do find out it creates this dynamic within the very group of heaven that should be "perfect" and "unified" and shatters it into these 2 distinct sides
@sofiantz2142
@sofiantz2142 2 ай бұрын
showing that angels aren't all bad and ppl not watching the show assumed that demons would only be the good ones
@GlitchBoy-ws5in
@GlitchBoy-ws5in 24 күн бұрын
@@sofiantz2142 People in here are idiotic
@GlitchBoy-ws5in
@GlitchBoy-ws5in 24 күн бұрын
People who used this argument are simply Intellectual Dishonest tbh or they're Shonen fans that need intensive handheld like Ubisoft Game
@artisticpigeon
@artisticpigeon 2 ай бұрын
This video helped me see why I appreciated Hazbin as much as I did. As flawed of a show as it is, theres always been so many aspects of it that kept me invested and excited to see what would come out of it, and has helped me get mlre insight on how to approach my own story Really love the video- I've been watching your essays for quite some time now, keep up the good work :>
@schnee1
@schnee1 2 ай бұрын
super flawed stories that are off-the-charts amazing at a few things are my favorites to analyze!
@Excelsior1937
@Excelsior1937 2 ай бұрын
@@schnee1 I used to be of the school of thought that flaws and strengths in a story kinda cancel each other out, and that the best story is the one that does the most things well with the fewest weak spots. It really wasn't until I watched Evangelion for the first time, a show that has some stuff I find very repulsive in it right alongside some things that I think are absolutely phenomenal, and found that it did not average out into a show I thought was just ok, but instead into a show that could elicit passionate praise and passionate condemnation from me, that I began to realize that it's more important to do some things well enough that they really make an impression than it is to get flying colors in every way that matters. People call Harbin Hotel super flawed, and it is, but the immense popularity comes from somewhere, and I think you've hit the nail on the head describing something it is doing so well that its fans don't care what other issues there may be. Definitely worth analyzing.
@Keineryn
@Keineryn 2 ай бұрын
I love that you gave this show praise. Just because it’s flawed, that doesn’t invalidate it’s incredible strengths! There are a lot of things to learn and appreciate in flawed projects!
@schnee1
@schnee1 2 ай бұрын
yeah i was in the same boat until i discovered one piece, which has what i would probably still consider absolutely fatal flaws in some really major aspects but is still my favorite story of all time
@RugbyEt
@RugbyEt 2 ай бұрын
Do you have any OP video essays? Have you watched/read Haikyu?
@goose5996
@goose5996 2 ай бұрын
i loved that the main cast is 80% sure nifty is harmless
@SomebodyWhoExists23
@SomebodyWhoExists23 2 ай бұрын
Adam got the 20%
@applepieguy6456
@applepieguy6456 2 ай бұрын
You can bump that down to 0% with two things. Give her something sharp, and tell her to stab everyone. Then no one is safe
@ostlandr
@ostlandr 2 ай бұрын
That number dropped with every subsequent episode. Such an epic moment: Charlie tells Nifty "If you seen an angel, STAB!" as she hands Nifty an Angelic Steel dagger.
@ryanratchford2530
@ryanratchford2530 2 ай бұрын
Love Lufficer. Just his pathetic but kind heartedness is so endearing. Especially when he finally comes around to support or comfort Charlie after “More than anything” & in the Finale song he picks her up and helps her continue with her dream.
@ChelCM03
@ChelCM03 2 ай бұрын
Im glad Hazbin is getting positive attention for something different than whats already been said. People either praise Hazbin for the music or the characters or the art style or gets torn to shreds for the humor or the pacing or the way it handles sensitive topics. But seeing someone dissect an aspect of Hazbin that hardly anyone has talked about is really refreshing!
@AC-pm9dj
@AC-pm9dj 2 ай бұрын
I wasn't expecting this video, bc I see schnee mostly talking about flawless tv shows and as much as I love Hazbin, it's... not flawless, let's put it like that. However that was still something about this show that just makes me love it and I can't express how glad I am that someone who understands what they are talking about is finally putting my feelings into words. And who's better for this than my favorite youtuber?
@ricky.t.1658
@ricky.t.1658 18 күн бұрын
I think the only serious flaw is the pacing which is not the authors fault but hbo’s
@EyreAffair
@EyreAffair 2 ай бұрын
Three major examples by Disney worth looking at: "Treasure Planet" and "Atlantis: The Lost Empire" for a steampunk story and aesthetic, and "The Haunted Mansion" ride for a story and experience that balances "grim" and "dark" with "funny" and whimsical". Disney spent years trying to find the right balance between "grim" and "funny", resulting in a fantastic ride.
@Kidomaru222
@Kidomaru222 2 ай бұрын
I did think really really hard about how cool it would be for schnee to like Hazbin and talk about it. So maybe i manifested it idk Also Charlie is my favorite character ! I find her hopes and dreams incredibly compelling, and i think she has a really strong sense of self and of her values, that allows her to be relentless in her compassion and benevolence. She truly, 100% sincerely, loves her people, and wants to save them. I love her. I realised all this for the first time during "It starts with sorry".
@schnee1
@schnee1 2 ай бұрын
finally! glad to see some love for charlie!
@kmnrzhi
@kmnrzhi 2 ай бұрын
honestly the way hazbin embraces the weirdness of being a human is my favourite thing about the show. and you really put it into words how exactly it attracts so many people in. i really don't like it when people frown upon young people being edgy and emo because like. they're experiencing life with its wars, drugs, sex, abuse and everything else and NOBODY is telling them that it's ok. it's just the way world is. and it's ok because it's not just you - many people are like you. many other people are gay, many other people are in an abusive relationship, many people are struggling with alcoholism and drug addiction. you're not alone. hazbin accepts you and embraces you. that's why i appreciate it so much. hazbin is the quintessence of being a weird edgy emo human in a big scary world and trying to find the whimsy in it.
@homosapien7316
@homosapien7316 2 ай бұрын
I understand it's flawed but I really think it's such a fun and enjoyable show with so much love put into it that I can't bring myself to hate it. I love this show
@arminsenpai
@arminsenpai 2 ай бұрын
Hazbin totally deserves praise
@Pamela-dv7gb
@Pamela-dv7gb 2 ай бұрын
It already praised but still not enough compared how amazing this show is ❤❤❤
@knightsblight
@knightsblight 2 ай бұрын
Yes
@St.Ellachick
@St.Ellachick 2 ай бұрын
For the way that it iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis
@masonjenks7636
@masonjenks7636 2 ай бұрын
I think Hazbin deserves more episodes than 8 next season.
@jaspurrz
@jaspurrz 2 ай бұрын
​@@St.Ellachick even despite having overdosed and ending up comatose
@dragonfly._.doodles
@dragonfly._.doodles 2 ай бұрын
This video is not only a great deconstruction as to what makes Hazbin, Hazbin. But it also provides a lot of inspiration and insight in how to create a world for your own stories, which is something I always love about your channel. It’s as much of a learning opportunity as it is a video essay
@AstrayAnimations
@AstrayAnimations 2 ай бұрын
Didn't expect to see you covering topics about the indie space... I'm actually quite happy that you did!
@mihaimorar2043
@mihaimorar2043 2 ай бұрын
A while ago he made a video on a Hololive fan animation which was really nice
@KaterynaM_UA
@KaterynaM_UA 2 ай бұрын
Hazbin is not indie. It's literally bought by Amazon. Helluva is indie.
@augustmacdonald9615
@augustmacdonald9615 2 ай бұрын
variety is the spice of life! adult animation hits as a deeply satisfying connection to animation we don't often get anymore, let alone adding debauchery or modernity to it.
@helenarosno
@helenarosno 2 ай бұрын
i enjoyed hazbin hotel and it saddens me that so many people have such shallow criticisms of it regarding tone. thank you for taking time to analyze this indie project despite it having a different taste from the shows you typically analyze. i love the term "grimsical". i also like the yin and yang approach you took to analyzing the show. hazbin hotel does a great job at using mythology to set up a system, only to break it with characters and concepts that completely contradict it. the grimsical tone is warranted through the themes that the show presents regarding morality and ethics. the good place is another show with the same themes, but the tone is less "grimsical" and more weird. i think this is because the good place is tackling the themes of morality and ethics from a more logical position than an emotional one. i also think that one being a cartoon and the other live supports their individual tonal approaches to theme.
@paaperman
@paaperman 2 ай бұрын
It takes a pre-established mythology, and puts a little bit of each inside the other. Put both sides on the same spectrum, and you just have the reality of the human experience all over again.
@evangelos4346
@evangelos4346 2 ай бұрын
Rare to find a video essay that isn’t raving about how Hazbin Hotel sucks. I really appreciate it, I’m tired of seeing all the criticism. Ever since the pilot there’s just something that has kept me obsessed with the show. Maybe it’s the mystery of what’s next, or maybe it’s because it’s in hell. In a weird way, I guess it’s comforting that you’re at rock bottom.
@VenomRosexX
@VenomRosexX 2 ай бұрын
WOAH? SCHNEE, THE ARCANE MASTER VIDEO ESSAYER. IS DOING AN ESSAY ON HAZBIN HOTEL?? WE’RE EATING GOOD.
@Li_tells
@Li_tells 2 ай бұрын
This essay is EXACTLY what I NEEDED! As somebody who absolutely loved the season, the story, the characters and tone, I am kinda tired of hearing bits of twitter drama, instead of an actual analysis and/or review. Don’t get me wrong I am open to criticism of the show and to those particular arguments too. But this analysis that is very focused on writing is what I genuinely want more of.
@AngelDustMyBel0ved
@AngelDustMyBel0ved 2 ай бұрын
What I've noticed about most of the "criticisms" (at least from what I saw) is that people are mainly using it to justify not liking this show/ its creators.. Like, you can like a show and still recognize its flaws. You can also hate a show, recognize its flaws, but still respect the creators and fanbase behind it. Because literally not a single show/movie/book EVER is flawless. But it feels like, when people criticize most shows, they actually give constructive criticism. But when they criticize Hazbin/Helluva Boss, they do it as if to prove a point?? Like, as if to tell the fanbase: "Hey, look at all these flaws your favorite show has! This is why you should also hate it or be ashamed of liking it!" Idk it just feels so targeted??
@sawsawsuka
@sawsawsuka Ай бұрын
​​@@AngelDustMyBel0ved a lot of the criticism of hazbin I see is in very bad faith, and I'm saying this as someone who doesn't find the show very well written lol. I find it interesting though and I hope it gets better for me. The amount of vitriolic hate this show gets is so weird and unjustified imo, I guess the internet just likes a punching bag
@thelastcrow5660
@thelastcrow5660 2 ай бұрын
Hazbin may not be perfect, but it truly is something special.
@matthewmccoyd2578
@matthewmccoyd2578 2 ай бұрын
Most unique version of Heaven and Hell I've ever seen
@nicolassanchez3047
@nicolassanchez3047 2 ай бұрын
It's very raw. The songs are the most polished part of the show but there was like too much plot in these 8 episodes. For me, the story was really strong but the pacing was too fast. That's why I'm soooo excited for season 2. It they can fix the pacing, the show will be one of the best. It's already filled with so much love and devotion, it just needs some more polish❤
@ostlandr
@ostlandr 2 ай бұрын
@@nicolassanchez3047 If I had Elon Musk's money, I would fund a "Director's cut" of season one, expanding it to twelve episodes at least. Oh, and also back "Hazbin Hotel: a musical revue" on Broadway, once we have a couple more seasons of music.
@Zikkar
@Zikkar 2 ай бұрын
Ah a Schnee analysis on the themes of Hazbin. Fantastic. Now if only Sideways would come out of retirement and do a 3 hour piece on the music my life would be complete.
@wilczus222
@wilczus222 2 ай бұрын
Man, you just awoke such a yearning for a Sideways video on Hazbin in me, what have you done?
@user-bf9kf9ln9t
@user-bf9kf9ln9t 2 ай бұрын
OH MY GOSH, So excited to see you posting about hazbin! Your great by the way keep up the good work!
@RachelHouk-ng3ql
@RachelHouk-ng3ql 2 ай бұрын
I haven't watched the show but this was a very helpful synthesis of what Tone actually is and how to craft a consistent one and use it to deepen and enrich a story.
@20mgzoloft
@20mgzoloft 2 ай бұрын
i think another thing that has really made hazbin explode is the grimness of our world? hazbin empowers us to be the whimsy in our reality, in the midst of the dark, and make the world a slightly better place that way.
@localscriptman
@localscriptman 2 ай бұрын
So THIS is where the animation kids have been getting the audacity
@mediawatcher9225
@mediawatcher9225 2 ай бұрын
I hope Twitter doesn’t find this video
@calvineagar1863
@calvineagar1863 2 ай бұрын
Your video style is super important these. Its super easy to find the things that are wrong with a show, but being able to figure out why it works and how to formulate those things to be more broad is amazing! If you get the chance, I've been thinking about Murder Drones and how to make a video on its excellent use of setups and payoffs. It feels like every thin that happens in thst show already happened on a smaller scale earlier in the episode. It makes me wonder if creating a show from end to beginning could be a valid and worthwile way to create those payoffs and then fill in the rest of your story with setups
@Pamela-dv7gb
@Pamela-dv7gb 2 ай бұрын
Super easy to find one-two default but it doesn’t has more than:pacing and maybe crude humor(for some people only so not even a real default but just question of opinion)and the pacing is not hazbin fault but Amazon fault
@nicario625gaming3
@nicario625gaming3 2 ай бұрын
God, murder drones is so good. It's so frustrating watching reactions to the show cuz I feel like no one understands shit while I feel like the show tells you everything you need to understand it
@calvineagar1863
@calvineagar1863 2 ай бұрын
@@nicario625gaming3 very fair, I feel like the show does everything it needs to be doing to explain itself, but it's a little convoluted for the "general audience" to understand. that is to say it requires thinking, something most reactions don't do.
@nicario625gaming3
@nicario625gaming3 2 ай бұрын
@@calvineagar1863 I agree, you definitely need to be paying attention to follow and most reaction channel don't.
@animuswonder
@animuswonder 2 ай бұрын
⁠@@Pamela-dv7gb i would say that it’s extremely sex-negative stance is also something that stands out quite a lot
@sunflower_seeeds
@sunflower_seeeds 2 ай бұрын
Finally Hazbin Hotel getting the respect it deserves 😭
@pawnhearts8785
@pawnhearts8785 2 ай бұрын
It's been getting that respect for years
@tabsi2436
@tabsi2436 2 ай бұрын
The artstile and music touching my leftbehind childlike nostalgy. While the abuse and violance is stilling my grown up need for realism. Never thought of that.❤
@Jiminie444
@Jiminie444 2 ай бұрын
Oh my god. Please never delete this. You’ve articulated exactly what we all have felt in connecting to Hazbin. I literally started crying by the 20 minute mark. THANK YOU ❤
@nint357
@nint357 2 ай бұрын
I literally got into both Hazbin and Helluva three days ago, this is godsend after seeing how much hate it's received from video essayists
@Cosmosdestructor
@Cosmosdestructor 2 ай бұрын
Fun fact: Alastor was actually one of the first characters that Vivziepop ever created. He and Mimzie are holdovers from Zoophobia, Viv’s old webcomic.
@botanicalitus4194
@botanicalitus4194 2 ай бұрын
What I love about this show is that despite all its flaws it is jam packed with SO much personality. More than almost any other piece of media Ive ever seen. It feels so alive and vibrant, everything from the character designs to the voice acting and personalities... its so refreshing to see
@arourallis
@arourallis 2 ай бұрын
You really hit the nail on the head with 'my favorite thing doesn't want me anymore'. Its even worse when that Thing is a multi-part franchise, where you _were_ once the target audience... but you grew faster than the franchise could keep up with, and now its trying to preach lessons about 'growing up' that are a decade too late. We've already experienced all this, now it just feels patronizing, especially with the glut of films in the last few years where they split up the main cast for a cheap tug at the heartstrings. Yes, we the previous-target-audience _know_ friends can drift apart, and the secret is: its not deep, its not meaningful, its not 'bittersweet', it fucking _sucks._ And maybe a franchise where friends _can_ stick together is the story we actually wanted to see, not 'All the magic goes away forever F*** you, its time to be an Adult(tm)'.
@beartie3048
@beartie3048 2 ай бұрын
This is such a nice review, I personally love Hazbin and didn't expect to fall in love with its world building and characters so much when I first saw it. So thank you for this because it expressed my thoughts perfectly.
@toto.dreamer
@toto.dreamer 2 ай бұрын
Schnee always with the most goated takes
@zachs1338
@zachs1338 2 ай бұрын
It’s such a breath of fresh air to see an overall positive review of this show. Hazbin gets way to much hate and it feels like people heavily exaggerate the flaws or just use their own opinions to justify that hate. I’ve even seen popular KZfaqrs fall in this category as well.
@Ma1hematics2013
@Ma1hematics2013 2 ай бұрын
They should really talk about both the good things and the bad things, the reason why the show sounds bad because people only talk about the flaws, not the good stuff.
@zachs1338
@zachs1338 2 ай бұрын
⁠@@Ma1hematics2013 It honestly sucks that this is the case. The current climate of social media (from what I’ve seen) feeds off either extreme of the argument, so it’s almost impossible to find a genuine review of pretty much anything. Sadly for Hazbin, it gets a huge amount of unwarranted hate and criticism. Some of it is justified, but I wholeheartedly believe that the goods outweigh the flaws of this show.
@iriidesci
@iriidesci 2 ай бұрын
Your commentary is everything I love about art. Your dissection and deep understanding of how parts go together to make things work is genuinely inspiring, motivating, and makes me strive to make deeper, stronger work.
@inconsistizzy
@inconsistizzy 2 ай бұрын
schnee praising hazbin?! this is a good day
@LEND5209
@LEND5209 2 ай бұрын
"They don't love the way I love"😏 We see you Shakespeare
@Mel-ancholy
@Mel-ancholy 2 ай бұрын
first positive video essay about hazbin hotel
@Pamela-dv7gb
@Pamela-dv7gb 2 ай бұрын
There is more but not enough(majority still positive),most opinion are:it’s good but has default. It’s not bad to say it has flaws but the thing really suck is haters
@user-x7dc2pq7n
@user-x7dc2pq7n 2 ай бұрын
@@Pamela-dv7gb most of the critique videos are made by die hard fans lol. A hater is going to watch one episode and quit
@shadenox8164
@shadenox8164 2 ай бұрын
@@user-x7dc2pq7n You underestimate how much hate can motivate someone to waste their time watching something they hate.
@Fil_the_spil
@Fil_the_spil Ай бұрын
​​@@shadenox8164No one in their right mind hates Hazbin. Honest video essays on Hazbin will always point out the flaws thay many people gloss over and ignore. The art and songs are great, but the writing is filled with contradictions and issues
@lamarnash2439
@lamarnash2439 2 ай бұрын
My guy this is university level of education you’re dropping here on tone and writing!!
@superabi5214
@superabi5214 2 ай бұрын
How does this channel ALWAYS cover my favorite interest at the moment. Arcane, the last of us, and hazbin hotel etc etc. Love your videos man 💜💜
@TheRibottoStudios
@TheRibottoStudios 2 ай бұрын
It really feels like Viv listened to the criticisms that Helluva got in terms of its inability to handle quick tonal shifts well, and implemented those in Hazbin. I think this is mostly thanks to Alastor; he's such a mysterious character that all of his plays keep you questioning. Alastor can go from threatening your very soul in one second and then being cheerful the next. And it helps balance out Charlie's overflowing positive nature.
@kadalix
@kadalix 2 ай бұрын
i was NOT expecting schnee to do a review/analysis on hazbin!! absolutely great! thank you so much!
@josephslivka7463
@josephslivka7463 2 ай бұрын
Examining a grimsical show by looping in seemingly unconnected steampunk, anti-heroes and overall life views and making it make sense. This is exactly what I love about the schnee channel!
@MoeFlorence
@MoeFlorence 2 ай бұрын
another eloquently put take. I should've known you'd love Hazbin like I do. Love your word choice and emphasis, it's like watching my thoughts with visuals, keep at it, my friend
@rainibao
@rainibao 2 ай бұрын
I cried watching this (still shedding tears). I feel seen by someone else also being able to see what I see in a show that resonates so much with me (that's a lot of sees haha)
@hab0272
@hab0272 2 ай бұрын
This is so deep. Truly helps to understand the popularity of this show.
@TheAngryLibrarian
@TheAngryLibrarian Ай бұрын
Speaking as someone who loves your videos and generally enjoyed Hazbin Hotel: I'm not sure if I really vibe with the idea that "dark + whimsical" is enough for a "tone", like I don't know if that's the right word. Any show can include dark or light subjects and portray them in any which way, and many do, but tone depends on how the subjects are handled, doesn't it? Perhaps I misunderstood this point. I certainly enjoy combinations like that, the "grimsical" as you put it, but I feel like the way you described these combinations, especially when including stuff like "good+neutral" and "bad+neutral", it kind of gets too broad and just covers any possible character? I don't know if I understand the point of highlighting that either. ^^; I did, however, adore your third point about how shows like Hazbin Hotel appeal to people who feel like their favorite childhood shows have abandoned them. I've never thought about it that way, but "my favorite thing doesn't want me anymore" really speaks to me.
@kalfkeith5646
@kalfkeith5646 2 ай бұрын
schee's working that Hazbin's shaft rn.
@Guywithaname199
@Guywithaname199 Ай бұрын
"They don't do like I do, but Hazbin hotel does: They curse, they have badass fashion, they DO DRUGS..."🤔
@fizzysfluff
@fizzysfluff 2 ай бұрын
This is probably the best Hazbin analysis I've seen, wonderful job!!! ♥
@starace4031
@starace4031 2 ай бұрын
I really enjoy the Hazbin Hotel show (and Helluva Boss series,) and your video essays so this was a perfect pairing. Thank you for your insightful analysis into the show and awesome to hear you enjoy the show too. 😊
@chipotle5286
@chipotle5286 2 ай бұрын
I doubt this'll get seen, but if it does please watch Blue Eye Samurai. It's Amount of depth, story telling and nuance is easily just as much Arcane's and I feel like there's a lot there to explore.
@erinbathie-moore8478
@erinbathie-moore8478 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for encapsulating why I love this show so much. The nuanced grey of the characters and story, and how it just accepts itself As It Is is part of why I like it so much. It's contradictory, it's messy, and yet it still loves exusting. (Loser Baby is amazing for this reason)
@agent_bumblebee
@agent_bumblebee 2 ай бұрын
I’d never thought I’d see Schnee cover Hazbin Hotel, but here we are.
@timeneses
@timeneses 2 ай бұрын
Schnee and TB are bringing the lol audience to HB and I’m loving it.
@v.v365
@v.v365 2 ай бұрын
The thing you mentioned about why Steampunk works, the rigid Victorian culture vs the limitless potential of the new technology of the era, I think I tapped into that without realizing it when I tried writing a steampunk story myself. I thought it would be cool to combine steampunk aesthetics with Greek mythology and tried writing a story about a demigod daughter of Thanatos acting as a hit man for her father, sending reincarnated villains from Greek mythology back to Tartarus, but eventually I started writing a story about a city locked behind a wall, a repressive society trying to protect itself from demigods, while the Gods who spawn these children don’t pay any mind to these arbitrary lines drawn by puny humans, and the main characters gathering demigods together to come out of hiding and change society’s perception of them
@gabigel5254
@gabigel5254 2 ай бұрын
Yesss I've been waiting for you to make a commentary on the show!
@jessebricks7538
@jessebricks7538 2 ай бұрын
if charlie is the white dot, adam is the black dot
@herofroot
@herofroot Ай бұрын
"grimsical" is such a great way to describe what hazbin hotel is /gen
@LadyBrightleaf
@LadyBrightleaf 16 күн бұрын
This is why I love anime. They have so many shows that touch the dangerous topics that children's media can't touch, but in a beautiful art style.
@SharkGDude
@SharkGDude 14 күн бұрын
I agree
@queenietisdom4681
@queenietisdom4681 2 ай бұрын
Loved this video!!! Hope we get more Hazbin Hotel Analysis from you, there is just so much to dissect. The characters, the lore, everything!!!
@wagtail186
@wagtail186 2 ай бұрын
An essay I did not expect but am extremely hyped to see :D
@DinoTamer-22
@DinoTamer-22 2 ай бұрын
This video has been so helpful! I am writing several stories and was struggling to turn the “feel” or “aesthetic” which inspired it into a story. This helps greatly with that so thank you ❤
@dezz6772
@dezz6772 2 ай бұрын
It feels like the idea you’re talking about is also reflected in Don’t Hug Me I’m Scared. Could be wrong though
@vanessarl8
@vanessarl8 2 ай бұрын
HELL YEAH THANK YOU!!!! This made me emotional bc you so get it and it's my favorite thing and the fact that you get it and made this video about feels heartwarming and like a hug somehow idk, thank you sm🥺🥺🥺🥺💖
@masen0593
@masen0593 2 ай бұрын
I think I needed this video❤Thanks for doing what you do man
@halliwedge
@halliwedge 2 ай бұрын
When first watching the pilot episode on KZfaq, I thought it was awesome. But the story they went with in the end when it came to Netflix, just didn't hit for me, and I'm struggling to understand why. In the pilot, it seemed Charlie's Hotel was meant to show that redemption was possible, to rebel against the idea that once you're in your place that's it, and that you can in fact make it to heaven with enough effort. But the show ended up just being what just felt like "Heaven actual bad guys hehe", and I think that was, for me at least, too shallow an idea that I couldn't get over that choice? Like, Rebelling against the Common idea in Hell that Redemption is impossible, go through the effort to prove them wrong, arrive at the pearly gates in the last episode to have Heaven themselves, be literal gatekeepers and setup for season 2, wherein the crew have to meet higher and higher goals in order to finally get in, only again to find that Heaven isn't so different and they don't want them in, leading to having to try and fight there way in, by which point, everyone in hell has been made aware that "Hey you've been lied to your whole afterlife", bingo bango season 3. I don't know, something doesn't sit right, maybe just a longing for something...more? Something else? What could've been?? Who knows. Very creative non-the-less! Animation was great regardless of story. Unrelated note, I'm not religious and just thinking about the logistics of world where all souls, old and new go to after death, hurts my brain. Even if the requirements to heaven are super stringent, that's still A LOT OF SOULS. Just 0.01% of ALL humans EVER, its still a 1 Billion People. How big is Heaven? Is Heaven as big as Hell? Does Heaven conduct purges too? What if there other Sapient animals too, do they go to Hell/Heaven? Elephants show signs of a higher intelligence, same as dolphins? Do ALL elephant souls add to the list? What about Aliens? Or Dinosaurs? If it is just Human souls, what if in the future, a Human-Alien halfbreed, would they get to go? Very intriguing, but a slippery slope for sure, anyway. Thanks for reading. bye?
@SomebodyWhoExists23
@SomebodyWhoExists23 2 ай бұрын
Show is on amazon prime and not netflix
@mkm1349
@mkm1349 2 ай бұрын
I think indie stuff fascinates us in that being more limited it stimulates our imagination of what could be, what is really into this creator's head that is so queer etc. The pilot stewing away into people's heads for a while and then having such short season may have been a recepit for underdelivering to some i guess
@halliwedge
@halliwedge 2 ай бұрын
@@SomebodyWhoExists23 oh yeah, how'd I fuck that up?
@Starsuki7090
@Starsuki7090 2 ай бұрын
This. This type of videos is what I want to see about this wonderful show, not the hateful ones that hate it as much as they can. You are the first person I have seen that made a video about understanding what the show is and talking about it. I hope to see more Hazbin related videos from you in the future
@gem9535
@gem9535 2 ай бұрын
I’ve seen maybe one video essay which could be considered hateful. Every other one can be summed up with “I like the songs, everything else was wasted potential,” which is a valid opinion to have. Don’t take criticisms of media to heart. Analyzing the good AND the bad is how we improve the art and craft of storytelling.
@willardwilburwonka
@willardwilburwonka 2 ай бұрын
Saw Hazbin Hotel, saw that it was a video by schnee, could not have clicked faster. And of course the video was superb. Keep it up!
@grandowlz345
@grandowlz345 10 күн бұрын
"Gobbled up the characters themselves" as a guy was being eaten in Cannibal town got me.
@andrealundgaard1838
@andrealundgaard1838 2 ай бұрын
As always lovely video! And YES Hazbin getting your attention is AWESOME! What you said in the end about going back to watch your childhood shows but not feeling invited anymore resonates a lot with me, and I think you’re definitely not alone. It reminded me of this experience I had at a medieval fair where I bought some apple mead (mead as in honey-ish alcohol, it’s great) and was told that it tastes like grandmas homemade apple juice USED to taste like, when you were a kid. Even though it’s the same beverage, it doesn’t taste the same because the receiver has changed. But adding that honey and 6% alcohol in it makes that taste as amazing for adults, as the nostalgic taste was as a child Always love to see your videos, and love your breakdown of grimsical and just why this story appeals as it does!
@IamCaptainMan
@IamCaptainMan Ай бұрын
I really really appreciate the parts of the show you cover in both your new videos. Analysts undersell all of this and oversell the issues in the writing. You are covering everything I want to achieve in my media that I unconsciously loved about HH. This has been a gigantic eye opener. Thank you, I have a lot to think about now.
@ketsura4086
@ketsura4086 2 ай бұрын
ive been thinking from the moment i finished the show last week this is perfect for schnee, i *need* a video of him! And here it is!!
@SmallvilleStudio
@SmallvilleStudio 2 ай бұрын
Once you said it, I couldn't stop thinking about it. Yes the cartoons and media we grew up with did leave us, and we are no longer welcome. But also when I was a kid, there was just too much I didn't like about the sanitized and ruled over world of animation that continued to persist from childhood to tween to teen to young adult. It was why I found a certain comfort in animated media like anime. It was my favorite type of media, being animation, being used to tell less sanitized stories that really made me connect. I cannot tell you what a paradigm shift it was to go from watching Ben 10, to watching Naruto. Fun semi-sanitized cartoon that ended up as always pretty lighthearted, with very little fear of the hero saving the day, to (at the time) watching the Chunin exams and the forest of death, where people died, were cursed, hurt etc. What I mean to say, is that going from something cartoony with little stakes, to something with real stakes, characters lives literally on the line, and blood being shown. As a kid I couldn't get enough, it felt like I wasn't being treated like a kid anymore and I loved it. Now as an adult I need more animation to bring back that feeling of not treating me like a child anytime I try to enjoy it. Obviously there's stuff like Invincible, but I want the more cartoony style like Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss.
@wisdommanari6701
@wisdommanari6701 2 ай бұрын
So glad you are doing content on this show
@Oh_mY_baNanA_pAnCaKs
@Oh_mY_baNanA_pAnCaKs 2 ай бұрын
I was not expecting schnee to make a video essay on hazbin, but I am very pleasantly surprised :D
@pixel.noises
@pixel.noises 2 ай бұрын
Your analysis and breakdowns are always so so good! I love your content and listening so much!!! Amazing !
@user-by1jx9ke2l
@user-by1jx9ke2l 2 ай бұрын
Fucking love your analysis, youre so good with pacing and structure
@AJ-dt3pz
@AJ-dt3pz 2 ай бұрын
I'm glad Hazbin Hotel is getting the respect it deserves.
@kaijuno
@kaijuno 2 ай бұрын
So insightful and what a beautiful reading of the show! Thank you, I’ll totally use this to write tone more skilfully in my next story 💗
@CptCh4os
@CptCh4os 2 ай бұрын
Ok now I have time for a proper comment. Very glad you are taking a look at Hazbin Hotel I have really started to love that show since it was recommended to me. Great points all around. As always spectacular insight. One thing you did say was that in Loser, Baby they managed to find their way out of their predicament (or something like it, I watched the video 2 days ago) and I wanna say the point is that they don't! They are both in a literally hopeless situation, however Husker makes a show that there is an alternative to sinking to desperation even without hope. And that is letting your guard down, letting good people in so even when you can't fight the dark you make your life brighter still. One thing I have noticed about the show is that despite the big final battle scene and the genocide and the resistance and what not it is NEVER about fighting. At least never directly. Carmilla refuses to fight because all she would fight for is saving her loved ones and a war endangers them. In Out For Love Vaggie needs to learn not to fight out of hatred or for vengeance but to protect, to defend. It is not a training montage per se but rather defining the focus of the WHY of fighting. When Charlie goes to recruit the cannibals she is horrified by their casual glee for violence even though she is recruiting them to fight a battle. Also the very song Ready For This is never about being ready for battle but about being ready for leading her people, giving them a chance, not letting them down when they need her. Interesting contrast to the highly violent setting aka Hell with yearly genocides and to the sister series Helluva Boss where the violence is way more in the forefront (god Helluva's action scenes are gorgeous)
@DragonNya69hehe
@DragonNya69hehe 2 ай бұрын
Finally a video that tackles why the show is so beloved instead of going "ew, problematic :///" I think this finally helped me understand why I like Vaggie so much despite how unpopular she seems to be with the fandom. She's that bit of normalcy that points out how absurd everything around her is. It's like she doesn't belong in that world (wink wink) and that makes her clash wonderfully with characters like Angel and Alastor. Plus I love cute gays :)
@AHorrorFanatic
@AHorrorFanatic 2 ай бұрын
My bigest gripe with Hazbin is the pace. Is till love the show byt that could have been better.
@DragonNya69hehe
@DragonNya69hehe 2 ай бұрын
@@AHorrorFanatic absolutely agree with you, but honestly there's no way they could've done better with just 8 episodes. Let's hope Amazon gives them more funding for the next seasons
@iRubyJ
@iRubyJ 2 ай бұрын
Another schnee banger
@annemcculloh9572
@annemcculloh9572 2 ай бұрын
Further confirmation that Schnee and I have the same tastes, which are excellent ☕️
@maxingram2002
@maxingram2002 2 ай бұрын
Alright. I need a video from you on Alastor and Charlie please
@BondforgedSky
@BondforgedSky 2 ай бұрын
Great video. A lot of what you said resonates so much with me. I love it when a piece of media is so earnest in what it's want to achieve. Some of my favorite stories so exactly that ( like Kingdom Hearts ( which a lot of what you said in this video could apply to that series ), or anything by Hideo Kojima, or a film like Everything Everywhere All At Once ). So Hazbin Hotel ( and Helluva Boss ) is right up my alley. And this video pretty much sums up why that is.
@ajazzdotcom._
@ajazzdotcom._ 2 ай бұрын
YK ITS A GOOD DAY WHEN SCHNEE POSTS !!!!
@River_Caterina
@River_Caterina 2 ай бұрын
Dude, THANK YOU. I adore this show and it does have very strong writing points (not to say it's perfect calm down) but I rarely see people seriously talking about it. This is wonderful. Thank you!
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