Heart Rate Sensor Shootout! - Optical vs Chest Which Is Best? Garmin Fenix 6 vs Polar OH1+ and H9!
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@_johnvalentine 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Very helpful. I always felt that watch heart rate monitors were off, they would sometimes show my heart rate unusually low when I was clearly struggling.
@journeyman6752 Жыл бұрын
This was a very honest, transparent & comprehensive analysis. Thank you!
@mikephilpot 4 жыл бұрын
Really good to hear that the OH1 is mostly accurate. I have anxiety/panic disorder and the chest strap is just an uncomfortable match for me. My fenix 6X Sapphire and the OH1 will make a great combo. Especially for swimming. Great review!
@tommyharris5817 3 жыл бұрын
Great demonstration. We need honest and unbiased videos like this to make educated choices.
@PeterHerget 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video, and review, I really liked the graphs - it add some authenticity to your heart-rate data.
@ChaseTheSummit 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@aznddog 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Crazy how such an expensive watch lags behind much cheaper monitors.
@ChaseTheSummit 3 жыл бұрын
That's the struggle with wrist based OHR sensors unfortunately. Technology needs to advance a bit further. Thanks for watching!
@apocreg11 4 жыл бұрын
Good video - for me the Fenix 6 is plenty but good to know it’s limitations 👍🏻
@andyfpt 3 жыл бұрын
Outstanding Analysis! I have a Garmin VA3 (soon to own a Fenix 6 Pro) and my experience with wrist HR is similar to your findings. I especially notice its slow to respond to increases in HR when I'm cold, first thing in the morning or have been sitting still for a long period. Once I'm warmed up it seems pretty good. It make sense that the Polar OH1 is more accurate because it's attached to a larger part of your body, closer to your heart and has access to more blood vessles... at least that's my theory :) Also the erratic readings I've found occur more when it's too loose. Another thing altogether is vibrations --- they can really throw it in a tizzy such as riding in a motorboat, lawn mower, snowmobile etc. I think the vibrations from the machinery being absorbed by your body and transmitted to your veins/vessels give false indications. Anyway thanks for a great comparison.
@ChaseTheSummit 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting thoughts about vibration. You're probably right but I have seen similar results when road running as well. Interestingly the OH1+ is more accurate than my watches even when I attach it to my wrist. I'm assuming it has much brighter LED's because it has less of a power concern only doing HR rather than a watch doing other stuff. Thanks for watching!
@Jcool721 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, amazing review! I just got the OH1 one and it is great indeed. Much easier to use than the chest hr sensor. I hate chest hr sensors, I just don't like to wear anything in my chest. I found out that OH1 breaks easily the conenction to your heart rate. It tries to follow the hr by the software algorithm and does great job. I believe your "drop" in hr is because of bicep/tricep moving and breaking the measurement. Software compensation is very good and the hr measurement is suprisingly accurate. Great sensor, I love it!
@ChaseTheSummit 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! The OH1+ is fantastic.
@xantus954 Жыл бұрын
Thanks im gonna grab the OH1 for trex 2 to get more accurate reading. Love your videos very informative!
@ckevinmcgeehan8653 4 ай бұрын
Really useful review.
@milesmchugh3816 4 жыл бұрын
hmph my watch also maxes at 165 for awhile, probably need to use the chest strap. thanks for the video
@SupperUpper 4 жыл бұрын
This is great work! @GARMIN needs to see this, because many customers face this problem of HR being much too low, at least customers with SW later than 4.2!
@CossetteJeremy 4 жыл бұрын
I'd be curious to know the difference in average HR over the course of your test... Cause if it's only +/- 2 bpm, the only time I could see this being an issue is for lab/medical testing or "maybe" for professional athletes. I'll be doing some similar test while biking on Zwift (945 vs. Wahoo chest strap vs. Wahoo forearm strap). Curious to find out. Thanks for your channel. Super interesting and well produced... As usual 👌
@davidsamuelpoo 4 жыл бұрын
Fave part: " this is where things get interesting... I guess.. We are talking about heart rate sensors here" Actually laughed out loud! I like your content - relatable, brief, and succinct. A rarity.
@ChaseTheSummit 4 жыл бұрын
Haha... halfway through filming I'm like "what the heck am I even doing?" Thanks for watching!
@Peakabike 4 жыл бұрын
It mostly comes down to the placement as seen with the good performance of the OH1, the top of the wrist is really NOT a good spot to measure HR, it's bony, not much flesh. Turn the watch around and it will help TREMENDOUSLY ! I do that with my FR935 when I forget my HRM-Run "Red" chest strap. And always do that with the Polar Ignite I use for HRV tracking on my right wrist.
@jozefj.6567 4 жыл бұрын
hm, that's interesting... it'd be nice to see a comparison stats for wearing the watch on top of the wrist vs turning them around and wearing them at the bottom of the wrist...
@applepotterhead8732 3 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@ChaseTheSummit 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@johnshipps441 4 жыл бұрын
Great review and was exactly what I was looking for. I have a Garmin too. I find it's fine for runs, walks, etc. But, when I'm working out with weights, it completely falls off. My only guess is that something happens with weight lifting where my wrist area changes composition enough that the sensors can't find my heart rate. I've tried wearing it super tight and loose...doesn't change. That's why I'm looking at alternatives. I was hoping to see a Polar OH1 vs Scosche, but I know the Polar brand is great.
@dresden_slowjog 4 жыл бұрын
@John Shipps, During weightlifting exercises with flexed muscles in the forearm bloodflow is constricted. Therefore the pulse rate is notoriously measured too low or not at all with optical wrist devices. Pulling it tighter constricts the blood flow even more. In this case a chest belt works better. I read this somewhere on a manufacturer's homepage literally minutes ago.
@amyxu4313 4 жыл бұрын
I have the same problem as you have. The heart rate goes up to 180 during weightlifting which is absolutely incredible. While I put Gamin Fenix 5 on the right wrist, it shows only 110. I wonder the calorie consumption result is also not right because of the inaccurate heart rate meausred.
@skycrafts5140 4 жыл бұрын
Hi - I enjoyed the video - very good! I watched quite a few when looking for a reliable heart monitor. I opted for the Polar H10 chest monitor and a Polar M430 watch (it's an older model now, not 'elegant' but works very well!). The chest monitor is the best way to go. Feels a bit 'odd' wearing it initially, but I don't notice it now, although for longer sessions the OH1 band is a good alternative if you don't like the chest option. The thing about the H10 and the OH1 is that each has an option to record the workout away from the phone - you just need the phone to start/stop the session. My H10 will connect with my phone to show readings at the same time as my bike computer and M430 watch if I want to do that. But, I would say that the M430 watch on it's own is just as accurate but it's the position on the wrist that is key. Once the position is right, it mirrors the chest monitor with a few seconds lag at times, and I think that is where a lot of wrist based monitors have issues, rather than with the equipment itself, and that's why certain activities such as weight training and HIIT classes don't get good results. A snug fit about an inch above the wrist 'bump' seems the best position - feels a bit unnatural for me personally, having a watch that high, but it seems to be the best place. I think that's why the OH1 band gets good results too, on the forearm or bicep - consistent, stable contact.
@skycrafts5140 3 жыл бұрын
@Laika I've not experienced that - and you can use it on the forearm if it doesn't sit well on bicep.
@skycrafts5140 3 жыл бұрын
@Laika Yes. That's the one I use most. It's accurate and it links to the polar app in the phone and my polar watch. Some people aren't keen on chest straps. It feels a bit odd when you start to use it, but I don't notice it now.
@skycrafts5140 3 жыл бұрын
@@laurensbruijn7466 I find the M430 is good as a tracker. The reason for using the H10 is the consistency and quick, accurate heart monitoring. I'd say for running the M430 would be fine, but like a lot of wrist trackers you can get a slight lag. But generally it does a good job by itself.
@benbeelerfitness2595 2 жыл бұрын
great video! Looks like for moderate, consistent activities the wrist sensor works pretty well. For any real workout tho the chest strap is better.
@ChaseTheSummit 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. The wrist sensor is generally OK until you really push things.
@supotube 4 жыл бұрын
Oh, great. I am going to thinking about OH1+. Sometimes my FR645 shows inaccurate numbers - like during my recovery run (and easy pace) it shows HR 160. After restarting watch my HR is 116.
@brunojacq5473 2 жыл бұрын
You can go for the OH1, it works well !
@andypreece8518 3 жыл бұрын
Another great vid. It would still be interesting comparing the HR monitors with maybe the polar grit X.
@ChaseTheSummit 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback! I'll add it to the list!
@brunojacq5473 2 жыл бұрын
It would be the same problem with the Coros Apex pro or the Polar Grit X. The Wrest measurement is light based, and you allways have sun light lightning in the sensor on your hart wrest. You don't have this problem anymore with a measurement on the upper arm, where the skin ist fatter and smoother. Try the OH1, it my recommandation ;-)
@johnh3095 Жыл бұрын
I have a Fenix 6 and find it is great for the majority of the time, but is incredibly sensitive to wrist fitment and strap tightness! The TomTom I had before was the same, however it refused to go above 158bpm, even if I was breathing through my ear canals and butt, the Garmin will go as high as 190+. Fitment is key with anything trying to sense on a high movement/inertia body part such as a wrist. So unless you have an optimum wrist size (for the watches sensor), you will always have good days and bad days with variations accordingly! It's even worse on my MTB as the shocks through my wrists on bumps can throw it way off for a minute or two. I wouldn't expect it to be flawless in these scenarios! For what I do, my Garmin rocks. I was thinking of buying a Garmin chest strap to do a comparison, but cannot justify the expense. Great video, it would be good to see a Garmin strap up against the Fenix 6!
@swaggytoast2747 4 жыл бұрын
I use the wahoo tickr X in conjunction with my Fenix 5 when I do really intense exercise fixes all the problems
@ChaseTheSummit 4 жыл бұрын
The Tickr X looks great. Thanks for watching.
@nikicrewes1411 4 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the in depth review. Have you ever tried the Whoop? Supposed to be pretty good too. With a lot more algorithms for stress and recovery.
@ChaseTheSummit 4 жыл бұрын
I haven't but I have heard about them and I'm planning to do some testing with their devices. Thanks for watching!
@nikicrewes1411 4 жыл бұрын
@@ChaseTheSummit thanks that's awesome always appreciate the time you put in looking forward to it!!!
@ianm9310 3 жыл бұрын
Great comparison could you do one where you where the optical sensors in the same location? The fenix and the Oh1+ both on the wrist and then higher up on the forearm to see if location influences accuracy? I want to move away from chest straps but am having trouble trusting any of the opticals I’ve tried.
@ChaseTheSummit 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I'ved tried that. For some reason the OH1+ is still more accurate even on the wrist. I think it's due to brighter LED's or something. Thanks for watching!
@Alistair_Spence 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. I just discovered your channel and have been going back through the older ones. Very informative stuff! I had a question regarding how an auxiliary HR sensor works with the Fenix 6. Do you have to be engaged in an activity in order for a chest strap sensor to relay HR data to the watch, or will the watch and the sensor still communicate with each other even if the watch is in regular "watch mode"? The reason I ask is that I use a Garmin Tempe sensor and it only relays info to my watch when I have selected an activity. Thanks.
@ChaseTheSummit 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! You are correct. External sensors only work during activities and not during "normal watch mode" this is mainly because HR sensors battery life isn't really suited for 24/7 use. But it would be nice if Garmin gave us the option. Hope that helps!
@Alistair_Spence 4 жыл бұрын
@@ChaseTheSummit That makes sense and I suppose really, the wrist based HRM is fine for when I'm not in full on exercise mode. I guess you really only need the enhanced accuracy of something like a chest strap when you're reaching the upper limits of effort/exertion. Thanks for the reply.
@mr.rodriguez5099 4 жыл бұрын
My Fenix 6s is good. It goes up to 185 as it shoud be. I don't get any flat peaks or delays in recording whr
@rickwilliams3050 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review! Were you using the Garmin with wrist mode only or paired with one of the chest straps please?
@ChaseTheSummit 2 жыл бұрын
The Fenix 6 was using it's built in sensor.
@emorty1703 5 ай бұрын
Wonder if it has much to do with the movement on the wrist while running? It would be interesting to see how it performs on a ride against the chest strap heart rate monitor? Less wrist movement.
@5kribbles 2 жыл бұрын
when my wrist based garmin hits a heart rate wall like that it is usually to to locking on to the wrong signal. It would be interesting to see what your steps per minute is in these cases. when the heart rate passes 160-165 beats per minute the watch can get confused and lock on to motion of the blood and arm at that cadence. you can solve this by holding your arm more still in front of you for a few moments, or changing your cadence momentarily.
@ChaseTheSummit 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting theory.
@natesilvers2166 3 жыл бұрын
Also intervals with highest heart rates are best going off pace and feel
@hardmtnbiker 4 жыл бұрын
I totally agree, the wrist based HRM watch sensors are never as accurate as chest straps, especially Polar the pioneers of HRM watches. It’s very interesting and helpful that the Polar OH1 is as accurate as the chest strap. I have the Jabra Elite Sport, it has a HR feature but it isn’t accurate as my Polar H7 strap.
@na-dk9vm Жыл бұрын
I've bought a Garmin 955. Which heart rate chest strap would be best best (of all makes)
@EstenSesto 3 жыл бұрын
Thx for the video. Do you find tightening the Fenix 6 strap has any effect on accuracy? Also, have you compared the fenix 6 (my watch) to the Apple 6 watch?
@ChaseTheSummit 3 жыл бұрын
Sure does! The tighter the better. I get mine to a point where I can't get a finger under it. I haven't done a Fenix/Apple watch comparison yet but it's on my to-do list!
@alexandrosel1131 3 жыл бұрын
After some years trying with optical sensors i go buck to Chest one. In outside environment Chest strap is spot on.
@ChaseTheSummit 3 жыл бұрын
Hard to beat the chest strap. Thanks for watching!
@DonDudley 4 жыл бұрын
Polar sent us the H9 and the OH1 as well. I have been using it in sync with the watch but have been thinking about trying it without my Garmin. I considered not using the Garmin to track a run, but I don't trust my phones GPS enough. I trashed the Polar watch, but man, the chest strap was really nice.
@ChaseTheSummit 4 жыл бұрын
So far I've only had a chance to check out the Polar Ignite... Which wasn't my favorite GPS watch. BUT! These HR sensors are really nice. I've been routinely wearing the OH1+ on all of my runs just because it's so convenient. Thanks for watching!
@bobxjsix7052 3 жыл бұрын
what are the others smart watches brand/model you paired with the chest HR sensor beside Garmin?
@mlegrand 4 жыл бұрын
Fact, when you wear three heart rate monitors you get 3x the cardio. BTW, I’m going to review the OH1 also. I’ll do that goggle thing mostly. 👍 Great video as always!
@ChaseTheSummit 4 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to your review! I was actually wondering if it might work on my Sunglasses haha. I'm not much of a swimmer but I'm reaaaally liking the OH1+ for running. It's just so much less invasive than the chest straps. Thanks for watching!
@mlegrand 4 жыл бұрын
Also, I might mention this video and link to it from what ever video I come up with in a few weeks. 👌
@ChaseTheSummit 4 жыл бұрын
@@mlegrand Much appreciated! 🙏🙏
@medrunnervanpath9568 4 жыл бұрын
nice video! yeah chest hr monitors are really annoying...
@peggyhayes7938 4 жыл бұрын
Good information. I am trying to figure out if I want to order a separate heart rate monitor to go with my watch. I ordered a Garmin vivoactive 3. I know it's an older model but am not active enough to justify the more expensive models. However, if I add in that cost then I guess I should have bought a more expensive model. lol. I have been using a polar watch the last three years and it works fairly well but notice it does take a little bit for the heart rate to catch up to what is really going on. I just needed to order something new to keep me motivated. I do love my polar chest strap but is probably 12 years old. My company is starting a walking challenge on Friday so trying to get all my toys on board. Will the polar snyc with the Garmin?
@ChaseTheSummit 4 жыл бұрын
Yup, the Polar HR straps pair seamlessly with the Garmin products. Thanks for watching!
@robertor.mvp2419 3 жыл бұрын
Very good video, so do you suggest this new sensor oh1 or newest verity sense? Especially for activity like crossfit or HIIT. Many thanks
@ChaseTheSummit 3 жыл бұрын
For sure! I actually have an entire video about the Verity Sense! It's a great OHR sensor.
@erwinsaputra3645 Жыл бұрын
I think smartwatch / band is definitely enough if doing light exercise at aerobic zone
@javierf55 3 жыл бұрын
Well I guess that's like going to the Doctor. Pick three of them, go and see them and you'll get three different diagnosis. At the end is a matter of choosing and trusting only one. Great video, thanks for sharing
@ChaseTheSummit 3 жыл бұрын
So true. Thanks for watching!
@basstorm85 3 жыл бұрын
Thnx for great video! I have HRM-pro and it seems to be very accurate with all metrics etc... but it's very uncomfortable (i have flat back), when i do gym or swimming, i feel like i need to adjust it every time, it slips down.. So i'm looking towards OH1+ as it seems to be comfortable, but it wont give me those running metrics or when i'm doing tri-trainings including bycicle.. Could you please suggest a good combo, or just take a look to another chest monitor like h10. And i'm fenix 6 user. Many thx and greets!
@ChaseTheSummit 3 жыл бұрын
Oh bummer! Yeah the OH1+ would probably be a better fit for you.
@ferraz916 4 жыл бұрын
do you know which one has more quality: polar h9 or garmin straps? in relation to durability and precision.
@ChaseTheSummit 4 жыл бұрын
The Polar H9 and H10 are fantastic straps. I previously owned the Garmkn HRM run which was also great and had the added benefits of advanced training metrics. Can't go wrong either way. The Polar stuff has been holding up great for me so far between the H9 and OH1+!
@ms2000n6 3 жыл бұрын
What program do you use to display 2 different devices on a graph? I want to compare my HRM to my watch and see the difference. Thanks 😊
@ChaseTheSummit 3 жыл бұрын
Quantified Self!
@jasoncherene6801 4 жыл бұрын
I'm trying to find an app that notifies you when you switch heart rate zones the polar beat one I use doesn't seem to do that. I want to know when I switch zones without having to keep looking at my phone. Any suggestions?
@ChaseTheSummit 4 жыл бұрын
Hmmm... I'm not sure. I know you can do this on the fitness watches but im not sure which app supports this.
@tomylee 3 жыл бұрын
Have you tried to wear the watch on your biceps if the data get better like with the HO1? Would be interesting 😉
@ChaseTheSummit 3 жыл бұрын
I wonderrrrr
@carlosmobellan9443 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, I've heard that the sensor on the Apple Watch is first class, even in intervals and gym based exercise (although i haven't compared it to my Garmin like online reviewers have). If you could at some point, that might also be a useful comparison video.
@ChaseTheSummit 4 жыл бұрын
I've heard its quite good! Unfortunately I haven't been able to get a review unit to test out but its certainly something I'd like to do. Thanks for watching!
@paulnicklas24 4 жыл бұрын
At my sports club we compared different monitors and the apple watch is probably as good as any other good optical sensor that you were on your wrist. If it sits really tight you get ok results. But it was always behind the professional gear and had a more steady curve compared to other wrist bands we had. So it didn't adjust as fast as others or smothend the line in the programm. Also nothing was as good as a good chest strap. They were the most accurate at any sport.
@dholy4038 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! Question, I know you can pair a Polar chest strap with the Fenix 6 but can I take off the watch and have it still record the heart rate for the activity? For example, say I want to use the chest strap in the gym but not wear the watch, the watch will be close by in my gym bag but I’m wondering if it will still record the whole gym session being that the watch is not actually on?
@ChaseTheSummit 4 жыл бұрын
Yup! You don't need the watch on your wrist if you're using an external sensor. It will prioritize sensor data before the actual watches sensors. Thanks for watching.
@dholy4038 4 жыл бұрын
Chase the Summit Great! Thanks for the reply.
@robmatouk7017 4 жыл бұрын
Have you considered or are you planning on reviewing Wahoo heart rate sensors?
@ChaseTheSummit 4 жыл бұрын
I've reached out to Wahoo for review loaners but haven't recieved any yet! Depending on how many requests I get I might buy one for testing. Thanks for watching!
@bobxjsix7052 3 жыл бұрын
hi , is there any Chest HR sensor that can display the realtime reading to the smartwatch or fitness tracker? connection via bluetooth.
@ChaseTheSummit 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, the one in this video does... Polar H9 amzn.to/36bAGRv
@Kunal636 2 жыл бұрын
What was the average HR for each of the monitors for the workout? I have the fenix 7x and had the polar verity and when i tested them, the average HR between them was only off by 2 beats. I did this for two sessions and ended up returning the Verity. I did not get into the nitty gritty though! I also noticed that switching my watch band to velcro and keeping it slightly higher on the wrist really gives more accurate results.
@ChaseTheSummit 2 жыл бұрын
Averages generally look the same within 5 BPM or so.
@pjohansson89 2 жыл бұрын
Hey just a question here, I do power walks and occasionally intervals runs, right now I have and old fitbit versa 2, and, I'm thinking about purchasing a better watch with better optical heartrate because the fitbit doesn't get too reliable, I can do some dishes and the watch says that I have a 100bpm because I'm moving my arm fast. Thinking that a garmin venu/venu 2 would help then to getting more reliable heartrate tracking even on or off doing a activity?
@ChaseTheSummit 2 жыл бұрын
I’d agree. The Venu 2 has one of the more accurate optical sensors on the market.
@magtens 3 жыл бұрын
How would the fenix sensor do if you put in on the inside of the wrist? is there a differens in the top end would you think ?
@ChaseTheSummit 3 жыл бұрын
It actually helps a bit if you wear it inverted. However I have a tattoo on my wrist that can interfere with it so wearing it regular works best in my situation.
@sandiegojoey1 3 жыл бұрын
For the life of me I can't find someone who talks about features. A lot of us would love to ditch our HR straps but I can't figure what I'd be giving up (if anything). I currently wear a Garmin HRM-Tri with my Garmin Fenix 5x Plus. Can I assume the only thing I'd give up if I moved to the OH1 or Scosche24 is running dynamics? There are so many performance and power features that I can't figure out what I'd lose. I hope you or someone like you will explain. Thanks!
@ChaseTheSummit 3 жыл бұрын
The OH1+ is pretty dang accurate for being an arm band. You're correct, the only sacrifice will be the running dynamic metrics. If you only care about HR tracking it shouldn't concern you. Hope that helps!
@Matt-px2ev 3 жыл бұрын
can you wear the Chest Strap over a tshirt instead of underneath?
@ChaseTheSummit 3 жыл бұрын
No this wouldn't work. The HR straps work by detecting the electrical signal your heart generates. Without an actual skin contact it wouldn't be accurate. The electrodes on the strap need to actually be wet as well so it works best when you're sweaty!
@tommyle628 4 жыл бұрын
I don't have any strange heart rate when I push really hard with my Fenix 6 Sapphire, I tight my watch band really tight.
@ChaseTheSummit 4 жыл бұрын
I think it varies person to person quite a bit. I always found mine to be "decent" until I compared it to a dedicated sensor. I wear my watch quite tight as well to the point where I can't get a finger under it. Thanks for watching!
@tommyle628 4 жыл бұрын
@@ChaseTheSummit yes, you're correct, we should get a chest trap and compare different brands to ... well, verify the difference. Great video, I've shared it to my run club, keep it up man !
@vaicekauskas1984 3 жыл бұрын
What you recomend h9 or OH1? Need more accuracy for running. Using vivoactive 4.
@ChaseTheSummit 3 жыл бұрын
Both are excellent. The H9 is a little more accurate because it's electrode based but the OH1 is really good too. I would also consider the new Polar Verity Sense which is basically just an updated OH1+ at a similar price. If you don't like wearing a chest strap the Verity sense is a great option. The H9 has better battery life and a bit more accurate. Hope that helps!
@PoisonAlienful 4 жыл бұрын
Another observation I made is Garmin tends to add 100mtrs to every one km run on a trade mill run. I.e one km on trade mill = 1.1 on my fenix reading. This distance adds up and to reach 5km on Garmin I need to run 5.4 to 5.5 km on trade mill. This is very consistent and I did not observe this on my Fitbit. Do you see the same?
@ChaseTheSummit 4 жыл бұрын
My distance is never that accurate on the treadmill and it doesn't really matter which watch I'm wearing. Using the stryd pod helps though. Thanks for watching!
@nancywoo1762 3 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t the Garmin Fenix also work with Garmin HRM? Do you have a comparison of this strap?
@ChaseTheSummit 3 жыл бұрын
Yes it does. I have other videos on that on my channel!
@mariusp23 3 жыл бұрын
Do you know if it is possible to pair the Polar OH1+ with Forerunner 945 ?
@ChaseTheSummit 3 жыл бұрын
Sure is!
@Izya001 4 жыл бұрын
Hi. A question. I use H9 heart rate monitor. Do the calculations of Heart Rate, Calories, Distance different for Walking vs Running vs Jogging or Trail Running.. For Jogging, for example, the distance is much much higher with H9 than for Fitbit. Heart rate is very close. Thanks
@ChaseTheSummit 4 жыл бұрын
The H9 doesn't calculate distance only heart rate. You might be using Polar Beat on your smartphone to record distance which is using the GPS in your phone and not the one in the watch.
@Izya001 4 жыл бұрын
@@ChaseTheSummit Thanks. Understood. Does H9 calculate calories differently on WALKING vs RUNNING vs JOGGING vs OTHER INDOORS (just movements or even SLEEPING without GPS)?
@sltrauth 4 жыл бұрын
Will these HR trackers transfer HR and calories results to the Garmin connect app if synced to the Fenix 6 during an activity? Or would you have to view this through polar’s app. I would like to just use the one app for calories burned throughout the day and during workouts. I am not getting close to accurate readings with my fenix 6 by itself during cardio and HIIT workouts.
@ChaseTheSummit 4 жыл бұрын
Yup, if you pair the sensors to your watch the sensor is used instead of your wrist based HR sensor which will override all of the important data in Garmin Connect. Hope that helps! Thanks for watching.
@sltrauth 4 жыл бұрын
Chase the Summit Thanks. Love your content. Keep it up. 👍🏼
@sg1ds919 3 жыл бұрын
Is the Polar H9 , H10 compatible with Apple series 6 , Garmin watches, Workoutdoors app? Thanks
@ChaseTheSummit 3 жыл бұрын
Yup. Just need to pair them in the standard BT settings before launching the app.
@KleinerDrache 2 жыл бұрын
One question do I really have: what are the differences between the polar H9/H10 and the Garmin HRM dual? ( those three should work all with BLE according what I know of them [Bluetooth Low Energy], as far I already had researched for that. One point of the choosing point is to have a good and accurate monitor and second is to connect with an app to get the monitor on stream :))
@ChaseTheSummit 2 жыл бұрын
The difference between the H9 and H10 is that the H9 is a simple ECG chest heart rate sensor where the H10 has internal storage and also collected additional running dynamic metrics. Both bands offer a BLE or ANT+ connection. The HRM Dual is essentially the same as the H9 in that it's a dual band (BLE + ANT+) ecg heart rate sensor made by Garmin.
@KleinerDrache 2 жыл бұрын
Ah good to know those similarities and differences and thanks for the answer :) I´m thinking about the question, which additional dynamic metrics does the H10 offer and if the H10 could connected to the Garmin App to collect those general data ? ( because I´m thinking actually to get the Garmin Fenix 6/6s Sapphire and adding one of those chest HRM for the better measures/collecting of HR datas. )
@mattiasandersson3444 4 жыл бұрын
Was the comparing heartbeat rate from the optical sensor on the Garmin watch or was it from garmins chest strap? I mean when you run and compared the values? on the threadmill
@ChaseTheSummit 4 жыл бұрын
The Garmin values are from the wrist based sensor. The chest strap was paired directly to my phone, not the watch.
@mattiasandersson3444 4 жыл бұрын
@@ChaseTheSummit Thanks. Good to hear.I was afraid that my garmin was so inaqurate with my chest strap
@ferraz916 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the vídeo. Do you know if the polar H9 is compatible with garmin watches? I have the Forerunner 45 and would like to buy the H9.
@ChaseTheSummit 4 жыл бұрын
Sure is! I pair it with my Fenix 6 and 945 regularly. Thanks for watching!
@ferraz916 4 жыл бұрын
Chase the Summit good to know!! I had sent a message to the polar store attendant in Brazil and he said that it only connect with Polar devices. But I found it very strange because both (FR45 and polar h7) have ANT + connection. Thank you very much for clarifying !!
@ChaseTheSummit 4 жыл бұрын
@@ferraz916 That is strange. Yeah, Polar straps work great with Garmin. I use both the OH1+ and the H9 with mine on a daily basis. They even work to connect with my Nordictrack Treadmill.
@jehu186 2 жыл бұрын
Hey! I was just wondering, what was the Data Recording setting on the Garmin Fenix 6? Was it on smart tracking or Every second? Does every second makes it more precise?
@ChaseTheSummit 2 жыл бұрын
With heart rate data it’s always every second. “Smart” only applies to GPS points.
@jehu186 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChaseTheSummit thank you!
@marthalampropoulou 2 жыл бұрын
For intervals and CrossFit workouts do you recommend polar h10 or Garmin HRM dual? Thank you
@ChaseTheSummit 2 жыл бұрын
If you have a Garmin watch get a Garmin HRM. If you have a Polar watch get a Polar HRM. The only exception is the cheaper priced Polar H9 which is excellent for Garmin's as well because it's much more affordable.
@marthalampropoulou 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChaseTheSummit thank you
@jeffcrawford9515 4 жыл бұрын
How tight on your wrist was the garmin fenix 6?
@ChaseTheSummit 4 жыл бұрын
I always keep the strap very tight to get the OHR the best chance. A good rule of thumb is not being able to fit a finger under the strap. Hope that helps!
@PascalKolkman 3 жыл бұрын
Seems like Garmin's sportwatches with "ELEVATE" optical heartrate sensor like you said after it hits a wall at threshold heartrate 160 bpm (85%) are not suitable to pick up the heartrate zone 5/5, wich is important if you 're doing High Intensity (anaerobic) Interval Trainings (HIT) or cardio above FTP. My Polar Vantage M is able to pick up my heartrate all the way up above threshold into zone 5/5 at 99% of my maximum heartbeat. If the band is real tight during cycling and even during swimming. Only downside is even when the Polar Vantage is connected to my bicycle powermeter on ble it does not show power watts during the training only in the short summery afterwards with average and max. Also Polar's Fitness fitspark feature is less custom programmable than Garmin Fenix 6 animated fitness workouts. So about powermeter compatibility , custom workout programs, mapping : GArmin does this a lot better with showing live power meter readings and allowing more in depth metrics like Normalised Power. That is why my perfect ideal sportwatch would be: the Garmin's Fenix Pro Firmware & software with connect iq apps and eco system of workouts, routable mapping in combination with the accurate Polar's precision prime optical sensor in it. That would be the best of both Worlds.
@ChaseTheSummit 3 жыл бұрын
Ha that would be a nice watch! I'll go a step further. Give me a Garmin Fenix 6, with a Polar HR sensor, and the battery life from the Coros Vertix! We can dream right?
@toddboucher3302 3 жыл бұрын
Trying to find size arm on OH1 my arms are only 11 inches biceps and 10.5 forearm.
@ChaseTheSummit 3 жыл бұрын
It's pretty adjustable/stretchy. You should be OK!
@karlhungus6331 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Dave! Did you observe a sudden spike in readings from Fenix 6 HRO in the cold weather (20-30 F)? I ran today early am my standard route where HR usually averages 150 (based on Coros Apex and Instinct Solar). But closer towards the end of the run HRO suddenly spiked and reported 200+ bpm and stayed there till the end of the run! No change in pace, terrain, elevation. I saw multiple comments on DCR attributing this to the cold weather. I usually keep my watches not covered by sleeves for better GPS signal. Did you experience something like that?
@ChaseTheSummit 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting. I haven't seen that but I suppose I've never looked for it specifically in cold weather. I'll keep an eye out for it now that it's chilly out there!
@karlhungus6331 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChaseTheSummit Thanks! Any idea if ANT+ strap (got Powr labs one with your link) drains more watch battery than builtin HRO?
@mattiasandersson3444 4 жыл бұрын
I think the polar H9 and the garmin hrm-strap are quite equal on things like Comfort and accarucy. Alter alterning between a Polar Vantage V Ti and a Garmin Fenix 6X Pro Solar I think Polars sleep and ä activate tracking are far better on Polar, but Garmin has a lot more useful functions
@ChaseTheSummit 4 жыл бұрын
I agree. The added metrics that the Garmin HRM-Run strap can be handy if you want Running Power/Ground Contact time. But for the price... the H9 is pretty great!
@mattiasandersson3444 4 жыл бұрын
@@ChaseTheSummit I'm a cyclist and has recently bought a Quarq powermeter to the bike i use most. I have paired them but not done the first training session yet. It is a huge amount of information that you can se. Quarg powermeters are the best because they can se the split between left and right leg. Most cheaper power meters can only se the total watt, but not the split. Interesting to do the first training using it...
@ColinMcRaeVIT 3 жыл бұрын
Here in July 2021, has the Fenix 6 improved the HRM? Or am i buying a Venu 2 w the version 4 HRM. Thanks!
@ChaseTheSummit 3 жыл бұрын
It's gotten better with continued firmware updates but its still not perfect. The new Elevate 4 HR sensor is much better on the Venu 2 and 945 LTE.
@ColinMcRaeVIT 3 жыл бұрын
@@ChaseTheSummit I sure wish I had some idea of when the Fenix 7 (or....Fenix 6 LTE, or Fenix Rising, or whatever fancy name give it when they realize just tacking on "LTE" is pretty dull) comes out. I'm not particularly concerned with a marginal/occasional HRM hiccup, but in your review I think it was on the Fenix 6X Pro a year or more ago, I really got the impression the Elevate 3 HRM just wasn't at all trustworthy. So in my mind the Elevate 4 become the must-have, if going with Garmin. Thanks very much for the info!
@limeezabit7280 2 жыл бұрын
I've using Polar sensors for years but their basic phone app is driving me nuts! It hasn't been really updated for ages now.
@ChaseTheSummit 2 жыл бұрын
It would be nice to see a overhaul on the app!
@kaymizon596 3 жыл бұрын
I tried my first smartwatch using apple, but disappointed with not showing constant HR during my swim. I'm trying out the Fenix 6 with HRM swim strap, and I'm disappointed with the distance accuracy and the lack of brightness. How do you compare the brightness on Polar OH1+ and H9 with the Fenix 6, as well as distance for swimming?
@ChaseTheSummit 3 жыл бұрын
Brightness of the OH1+ and H9? I'm not sure I understand. The OH1+ and H9 do not have screens on them.
@kayrivera5370 3 жыл бұрын
Wrong question, I posted that at3a. I meant polar watch screen brightness as compared to Garmin fenix. I find Garmin fenix watch brightness very dim.
@believeinjesus8300 Жыл бұрын
Will the h1 connect to some of the cheaper watches like a forerunner 35
@ChaseTheSummit Жыл бұрын
It will connect to any watch with ANT+ or BLE. The Forerunner 35 would work.
@believeinjesus8300 Жыл бұрын
@@ChaseTheSummit thanks for the review and responding 🙏🏾
@Justin-ib6zs 3 жыл бұрын
Not sure if you look at older videos but this one intrigued me. Considering how when training, HR is used to calculate v02 levels on watches, does this mean that v02 levels are just as inaccurate on watches?
@ChaseTheSummit 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's the main issue with the training tools on modern watches. If you have bad HR data all of that data is off. Wearing a chest or arm strap helps quite a bit. My V02 Max actually increased substantially on my Garmin's after I started running with a bluetooth HR sensor. Thanks for watching!
@Justin-ib6zs 3 жыл бұрын
@@ChaseTheSummit so do you feel like for training purposes, getting a separate HRM and a cheaper watch is a better "bang for buck"? I'm deciding between Fenix 6 and 5. 5 is about 200 cheaper, which can be used towards things like HRM and maybe stryd pod
@ChaseTheSummit 3 жыл бұрын
@@Justin-ib6zs If you find those metrics useful and you'd regularly wear the sensors then yes. The Fenix 6 has other features that make it more powerful than the 5 like better battery life and full mapping. If you don't utilize those then the 5 would be a great option.
@mihailotancev3284 3 жыл бұрын
@@ChaseTheSummit dont forget much nicer feel on the wrist with fenix 6, and bigger screen... for many, very important factor... and also for many people, fenix 6 ist prettier watch
@frankenstein3163 3 жыл бұрын
TY for video. I demo(buy than return) same watch and was wondering why it was saying I was only 118 and I was near 170+ also :( had a miled hear a tack next day. I have high blood presser. What device do you suggest for instant display for chest strap ? Fit bit, Xiaomi Mi Band or smart watch.. I like seeing hr and hrv. But I can always use phone be for work out to see HRV. EDIT; ops my watch was/is the Garmin Fenix 5 plus.
@ChaseTheSummit 3 жыл бұрын
I'd lean towards Garmin, COROS, Polar or Suunto if you want the most responsive interface. I don't have experience with Xiaomi unfortunately!
@frankenstein3163 3 жыл бұрын
@@ChaseTheSummit ty for replying.
@LoneStarSpartan 4 жыл бұрын
Any impact on battery life if you wear it for a 24hr event?
@ChaseTheSummit 4 жыл бұрын
Of the watch? or the chest strap? I'm not sure the OH1+ would survive for 24 hours but the chest belt shouldn't have too much of an effect on battery life of the watch. Thanks for watching!
@markwalkr1 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry did i hear you right the strap will pick up the exact hr and show you it on the watch, i zone train so what the strap picks up and shows on the watch is the best? Sorry if that’s a silly Question 👍🏻
@ChaseTheSummit 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, the watch will display the heart rate from the chest strap in real time. when a chest strap is paired it ignores the wrist sensor. Hope that helps!
@markwalkr1 3 жыл бұрын
@@ChaseTheSummit thank you much appreciated 👍🏻
@rochaa1200 3 жыл бұрын
How accurate is Fenix 6 for resting HR and HRV ?
@ChaseTheSummit 3 жыл бұрын
Decent... not great. About on par with most wrist based sensors.
@thecooldude4564 3 жыл бұрын
Just what I needed I hate smart watches, I hope there is something similar to measure my vo2 max.
@ChaseTheSummit 3 жыл бұрын
I think the Whoop band might do this? I'm not totally certain though.
@robinalexander5772 3 жыл бұрын
The other day I watched one of your videos and it was to do with the fenix 6s and sort of fenix 6. In the video you said the 6s was now your go too watch because you felt it fitted better. In this video you had the fenix 6 on, the question is do you think the Fenix 6 because it is larger it might not be getting a good grounding on your arm as you move around. I just got the Fenix 6s pro today so no expert at all. I am in the class of dumb f...k at the moment. But interested in your findings. Cheers from Tasmania.
@ChaseTheSummit 3 жыл бұрын
Size certainly plays a role in accuracy but it really comes down to how tight you wear the watch. I get my tight enough where I cannot fit a finger under it comfortably. The weight of the watch "jiggling" can cause some inaccuracy's both the 6s and 6 are quite similar in terms of HR accuracy. Hope that helps.
@robinalexander5772 3 жыл бұрын
@@ChaseTheSummit 👍👍
@rsilvers129 3 жыл бұрын
Garmin has new beta firmware. Maybe they fixed this? What software makes those overlays?
@ChaseTheSummit 3 жыл бұрын
I think its a limitation of the hardware but I'll check out the new beta firmwares. Thanks for watching!
@johnrich1014 2 жыл бұрын
Will the polar h9 or h10 pair with the Fenix and give you live hr on the Fenix data screen? Hit wacky HR numbers on the Fenix and just want to see what's correct normally and consistently
@ChaseTheSummit 2 жыл бұрын
They sure will.
@johnrich1014 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChaseTheSummit does it take over Fenix 6 hr numbers or show as a separate data field?
@johnrich1014 2 жыл бұрын
Probably in a video just haven't found it yet
@ChaseTheSummit 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnrich1014 when an external HR sensor is paired the watch will ignore it's built in optical HR sensor and display/record the external sensors values instead.
@TheEltev 3 жыл бұрын
I've no problems with sponsored videos but I think you should have used a Polar watch to ensure the message isn't 'Garmin watches are less accurate that Polar chest straps'
@ChaseTheSummit 3 жыл бұрын
This video isn't sponsored at all. Everything in the video was purchased with my own money except for the H9 which was sent to me. Polar did not pay for the production of this video. At the time I only had the H9 on hand to do this testing.
@81Riel 4 жыл бұрын
I love my HRM-Run from Garmin. Comfy and accurate.
@DerrickSiu 4 жыл бұрын
Have you tired the Polar? I'm trying to decide between the HRM Run and the Polar H10
@hannesaltenfelder4302 2 жыл бұрын
Does anyone have a long term experience with the oh1+? I read, that after 3month several oh1s (older model) stopped working?
@ChaseTheSummit 2 жыл бұрын
Mines still trucking without any issues.
@hannesaltenfelder4302 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChaseTheSummit thank you
@brunojacq5473 2 жыл бұрын
Oh, really ??? I bought a used one for 3 weeks ;-/
@minhltv 3 жыл бұрын
How to show Polar OH1 data on Garmin Running Data Field?
@ChaseTheSummit 3 жыл бұрын
Simply pair the OH1+ with your Garmin watch and the HR data fields will reflect what the OH1 sensor is picking up. Once an external sensor is in use Garmin ignores the wrist based sensor. Does that help?
@minhltv 3 жыл бұрын
@@ChaseTheSummit Your respond is so quick and helpful. Thank you. Just pick OH1 today after watching your compare video last week.
@HVYBOY 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t watch these videos to determine whether or not you should spend $80 on a HR monitor or $800 on a Watch with HR technology. I’d hope that’s very obvious lol.. now that being said, if you’re looking to add a monitor to your Arsenal then by all means this is a great showing on how it could improve your tool bag. Aside from that I don’t think anyone should buy a Fenix for its HR technology, I think it’s just a benefit to the immense amount of value that this watch holds in itself already.
@narayanasrikanthreddyg 3 жыл бұрын
Doesnt your treadmill have a heart rate monitor and long term runners are reported to have lower hearts rates, what's your take on this?
@ChaseTheSummit 3 жыл бұрын
Sure, the treadmill has a heart rate monitor but I like recording the data to my activities that syncs with Garmin and Strava. And I'd agree that long term runners have lower resting heart rates but that likely goes with anyone who has a high volume of cardio per week.
@alancampbell6236 4 жыл бұрын
Obviously your VO2max will be better with the Fenix wrist based heartrate😉
@ChaseTheSummit 4 жыл бұрын
Oddly enough mine went up when I started using a chest strap exclusively a couple of months ago. I think this might be due to HRV being way off on the wrist sensor? Pretty strange! Thanks for watching.
@wilberthchaconalfaro7690 3 жыл бұрын
Polar H10 is the best. You should not have issues using a watch (Polar, Suunto, Garmin or Huawei) when running or cicycling, but if you go to the gym o do crossfit you should use a chest strap
@ChaseTheSummit 3 жыл бұрын
For sure. I still see benefits for running in most cases. Thanks for watching!
@palmermadson9222 4 жыл бұрын
I think a lot of garmin 'issues' stem from its position on your wrist. If you make it just a bit tighter a little ways (1-2 inches) up your arm, I have found much better results.
@ChaseTheSummit 4 жыл бұрын
You're not wrong. However, during these tests the watch was always super tight and positioned in the suggested area below the wrist bone. Thing about optical wrist sensors is there are so many variables that come into play. Color of your skin, color of your arm hair, density of hair, body fat percentage, etc... I can only speak from my experience. Thanks for watching!
@palmermadson9222 4 жыл бұрын
@@ChaseTheSummit and thank you for the great content!
@christianvannereux2377 4 жыл бұрын
May I Use the H7 chest from Polar with my Fenix 6x . Thanks for your answer
@ChaseTheSummit 4 жыл бұрын
Yup!
@alejandrovalenzuela3669 4 жыл бұрын
In the other hand in this test could you show calories measure results? Thanks
@NewEnglandDirtRoadie 3 жыл бұрын
my Fenix 5 is not doing a very good job with the Garmin chest strap. going to try the Polar H10 strap. hopefully it will give better results. and i am hitting that "heart rate wall" as well. i'll also be riding easy, and it will get stuck on the 160 for a long time. this watch is absolutely useless. i'm probably going back to my Polar s720i
@ChaseTheSummit 3 жыл бұрын
Yikes! Do you wear it tight? That makes a huge difference. Thanks for watching.
@NewEnglandDirtRoadie 3 жыл бұрын
@@ChaseTheSummit not overly tight. But no looser than how I wear the strap for the s720i.
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