I love how many extra little things HS Kayn has, like the W animation, the idle animation, the back animation is just so extra, it’s great
@boloreynoso305410 ай бұрын
Thankssss, omg finally someone noticing that lel
@bladeealbania9 ай бұрын
the idle animation to me gets so annoying in the comparison, can it be disabled?
@Levi_The_One_The_Only10 ай бұрын
I'm just impressed Riot actually managed to make a legendary skin with brand new animations because it seems every new legendary skin has recycled animations nowaday
@Xuanwuu10 ай бұрын
Bullshit lol
@sergioq9410 ай бұрын
That is true for all the random filler legendaries
@raynorshineee10 ай бұрын
The new legendary soraka skin💀
@wh3ntheycry10 ай бұрын
Lol well actually the SA Q is almost the same, and all their aa animations are the same in new skin which is lame
@gatoheadset10 ай бұрын
@@wh3ntheycry!!!!
@LionelWawerek10 ай бұрын
Both are absolutely great, the only that I prefer Odyssey for is that Ult animation. Aside from that, I have to say that HEARTSTEEL is so flashy and kinda crunchy
@Nero1027.10 ай бұрын
thats exactly how i feel...word to word
@mccheesegod57119 ай бұрын
I mean we all know Odyssey kayn was some of riots best work ever and imo i like the newer ones wall ride a lot more so like its a draw overall its like the ult on Odyssey is a statment meanwhile heartsteel is just better transformations and animats all else tho i can see people preferring the hs ult as well for the flip and shite lastly we all know shadow assassin and rhaast clearly go heartsteel lastly im ngl odyssey kayn has a cool dance but i lean more towards hs but the kayn playing pacman on odyssey is jusy sooo good as well overall id say i have spent too much money on buying every kayn skin in the game and i regret it now save you money get night bringer(jkjk hs and odyssey are literally exact same tier imo)
@history_owl16684 ай бұрын
i've had odyssey kayn for 3 years and I didn't know his ult had that above it
@dio-kun732410 ай бұрын
The new have idle afk, music and vfx updated, itself, is superior and beautiful but odyssey have the form model more detailed, especially rhaast, he’s handsome and menacing
@MarcosNaceli10 ай бұрын
One thing that I find amazing about Heartsteel is Assasin-Kayn's model and animations: it's the very first male skin that manages to properly make cool poses with long hair during attack animations. Also, it's the first one to make good looks out of an uncovered torso without concealing it under huge shoulderpads, a vest, capes, or a hunched posing model
@boloreynoso305410 ай бұрын
Eeeeexactly, but u know, the machos got angwy anyways haha
@corporateturtle600510 ай бұрын
@@boloreynoso3054 Yeah you tell'em Bootlicker3054. No one is taking Princess Shill's rito boot away till she's done licking every inch of it.
@shadowviper397110 ай бұрын
what cool poses wdym
@ngegamesantai_10 ай бұрын
Bro the assassin mode's hair animation in Heartsteel is crazy good. It looks so smooth and slick
@joseportillo954110 ай бұрын
Odyssey still puts up a good fight despite it's age, I do prefer the odyssey splashart and shadow assassin way more than heartsteel. The rest is either one or the other, both are cool. Edit: how could I forget the voice lines😂 yeah odyssey kayn wins by a land slide, heartsteel kayn's voice lines can't even compete.
@ultimaabyssal248410 ай бұрын
At any rate, you buy legendaries these days for 1: The new animation rig 2: The voice The clashing neons of Heartsteel look unappealing to me, and it overall just screams "tryharding at being flashy". Odyssey, however...it's just cleaner. Now obviously Odyssey is winning in voicelines too, but yeah. Literally the only reason Heartsteel would "look better" is because there's MORE visual effects, not BETTER ones.
@PaddraNysYeul10 ай бұрын
i also noticed in the emotes, oddysee rhaast / assassin have different ones, compared to untransformed kayn. Heartsteel keeps the untransformed emotes in both forms unfortunately
@hykrume383010 ай бұрын
man, do you listen grey daze?
@Xephyranth9 ай бұрын
One thing I really would want is an Odyssey part II or what if skin where Kayn and Rhaast don't get rid of eachother after they transform just like HS, Odyssey's banter between those 2 are legit one of the best voice acting from all the champions
@joseportillo95419 ай бұрын
@@hykrume3830 yes, I do🗿
@chunkyl271910 ай бұрын
For me is better rhaast in odissey by a little, but i love the new SA in HS, maybe the R doesnn't show an image of the form, but the animation of kayn getting out with the R is outstanding
@thecabbageman594810 ай бұрын
new shadow assassin looks like long hair jared leto joker bro
@thefearturkey694410 ай бұрын
@@thecabbageman5948what what how does it even look the same. You just hatting fr fr. Jared leto joker got grills trashy tattoos all over his body like he has damaged on his forehead red lipstick it just aint it.
@PremPnamNam10 ай бұрын
nice pfp lmao
@ConQuestie9 ай бұрын
@@thecabbageman5948 the long hair is very Sephiroth!
@meldenalberto904010 ай бұрын
I Just realize that in Heartsteel Kayn's Rhaast form, When he uses 3rd Skill, there are faces like his expression while when he's in Shadow Assassin form, It has hearts and beats, Showing how Rhaast was just another Persona of Kayn
@maurice820110 ай бұрын
I think both serve their purpose, which one is better is therefore hard to say. We may have a case here of them being equally good in different ways and I would be totally fine with that statement.
@Xephyranth9 ай бұрын
One thing I really would want is an Odyssey part II or what if skin where Kayn and Rhaast don't get rid of eachother after they transform just like HS, Odyssey's banter between those 2 are legit one of the best voice acting from all the champions
@MisterPlague10 ай бұрын
To each their own, but objectively, the new one is better, mostly because its newer and has other tech like the iddle music and dance. It also features more vivid VFX and SFX. Nevertheless, Oddyssey has better models and ult.
@AverageWannabe10 ай бұрын
i think objectively the new skin line is a pos of a line
@RottenHeretic10 ай бұрын
It's not that bad, but it is the new cash cow similar to kda.@@AverageWannabe
@kitnal414310 ай бұрын
How is it a "new cashcow"? K/DA had a second release so you could say that, but a music skin line for worlds is pretty normal tbh and it has been done well @@RottenHeretic
@RottenHeretic10 ай бұрын
@@kitnal4143 It literally is just that bud. Cope harder if you think otherwise. Thirsty fans will buy anything involving their favorite musicians and if the skins are pretty boys/girls it's even more profitable
@AverageWannabe10 ай бұрын
yeah its not that bad, but it kinda is though.@@RottenHeretic
@30Kur09 ай бұрын
A of the dialogue for the odyssey skin is actually super fun between the two, and they seem to have a lot more unique voice lines. The animations on that HS Kayne though, go fucking crazy.
@cucumber609810 ай бұрын
Idk why it bothers me but i feel like giving different dialogue on the emotes was something they shouldve kept doing, such a small detail but just feels lazy not to.
@JohanVI610 ай бұрын
Agreed I hate that you transform as Rhaast and can still hear Kayn's voice,
@AlMeZero10 ай бұрын
Benefit of the doubt, with how jarring it is, I'm assuming it's because it's only in PBE. I get Rhaast is an alter-ego in Heartsteel but it's jarring to go from Rhaast's voice to Kayn with not so much as a filter.
@JohanVI610 ай бұрын
@@AlMeZero exactly that - that's the only copium I'm holding on to
@MaeyiQuinn10 ай бұрын
I love that rhaast shreds the guitar and shadow kayn is a dancer.
@SirYwhach10 ай бұрын
Odyssey is far better : - 34 minutes of awesome dialogue and interactions. - 3 different skinlines in one : Base Kayn is Odyssey, Shadow Assassin is cosmic and Rhaast is Dark Star. - A lot of personality from both of them. - Instead of just the scythe, the ultimates show their face similar to the splashart. - Real transformations where they murder each other, instead of Kayn and Rhaast being friends. - Smooth SFX and particule effects that are good even to this day. I'm not trashing Hearsteel, but you just can't top Odyssey, sure, it's more "fluid" but there is a sense of heaviness that I like in Odyssey.
@juansebastiantorresguzman937310 ай бұрын
Hmmmm i like more heartshel cuz hace a lot of colors
@69hahafunny10 ай бұрын
Assassin isn't cosmic tho
@sejudgame337710 ай бұрын
You right, but remember, Heartsteel Kayn still in production, is the first day in the PBE, maybe the skin its gonna have more fluid animations or add some more
@SirYwhach10 ай бұрын
@@69hahafunny Yes it is.
@thenightsoul10 ай бұрын
@@sejudgame3377yep still wait for it
@thatsillyraccoon10 ай бұрын
odyssey kayn has a more detailed animation for after W, and a more detailed ult-- however the new legendary skin has a much better after ult animation imo
@sejudgame337710 ай бұрын
Guys guys, stop fighting, both skins are awesome
@kentgil252610 ай бұрын
Stfuu new skin is better
@5q1d8710 ай бұрын
Based
@jypixel200410 ай бұрын
Ineed
@sedarium530710 ай бұрын
Yeah, both skins are better than 30€ Samira
@5q1d8710 ай бұрын
@sedarium5307 on that we agree, it sucks too, the skin looks fire but the price is bad
@bootleg_9 ай бұрын
Heartsteel Kayn is undoubtedly more well made and polished, but from what we've seen it lacks the VO work that makes Odyssey so charming and memorable. It's the only thing I'll miss when using the new skin.
@mirkoss9 ай бұрын
Odyssey Kayn still give me trauma When I finally got the Icon I knew it was finally over, but then I got him rerolling 3 skins 1 year later...
@polinzge978810 ай бұрын
Idk why they didn't take the obvious opportunity to make him crowd surf during his e💀
@dzuycg9 ай бұрын
I like how HS Kayn E floating in the wall instead of just running in it.
@KhangLe-km6ej9 ай бұрын
If you watch the Rhaast Q closely, he spins the scythe with his feet. Awesome detail.
@Iris-el3nt6 ай бұрын
I love heartsteel rhaast so much, the design feels genius and I am so obsessed with this dance
@elainachi9 ай бұрын
He made peace with his darkin in Heartsteel
@tryfergoodra5529 ай бұрын
Dope , for me is impressive tho that kayn doesnt have an ultimate skin , it fits him so well
@smooth907510 ай бұрын
Odyssey Kayn is still better than the new skin. the ult is so better in Odyssey
@narcoticman73107 күн бұрын
One thing I notice, oddest Kayn actually thinks of Rhaast as his friend.
@manux53069 ай бұрын
Remember that this version the VFX are not finished, still has 2 week left.
@king_fisherXX9 ай бұрын
Odyssey is a decent skin, but I like Heartsteel better. I'm not really a fan of all the blob gel animations. Also, like everyone else is saying, Heartsteel does a way better job at giving more animations instead of looking like default Kayn. My favorite part of Heartsteel is his dance. It's an amusing taunt when you down an enemy 😂
@typervader10 ай бұрын
I know Rhasst is meant to be an alter ego, but i hate how heartsteel bascailly pretends he doesnt even exist as his own character. Hes just a side voice now, thats lame
@senshi594410 ай бұрын
I am immensely disappointed how they treated Rhaast in this skinline. Lore-wise, he literally doesn't exist. In-game, even when fully transformed, he has base Kayn's emotes copy-pasted. Very anti-climactic. They didn't bother to at least slap Rhaast's voice over the emotes, much less change them slightly to fit the character, like in the rest of his skins
@KevinDeCastro0310 ай бұрын
Damn kayn trained his back at the gym for the new skin
@Arda-ef2kb10 ай бұрын
It's a shame that the ultimate of the heartsteel skin is so simple and uneventful, other than that it's beautiful.
@zenixvampirchik6529 ай бұрын
the whole skinline feels like actually something new. The way those animations and skill effects look is just sooo good
@markhui10 ай бұрын
Both are amazing but because hs is newer the animations, sfx, vfx etc. are just better.
@linkxiaoyu431510 ай бұрын
I'll just go odyssey when blue and heartsteel when red to make it equal, but yes, odyssey does have more lore sense lines and character (plus that heartsteel home guard is so ridiculous wtf 😭😭)
@necafan76 ай бұрын
Whats wrong with it? Its point is to show how he just performed on stage and then his fans carry him? So much better than odyssey
@linkxiaoyu43156 ай бұрын
@@necafan7 bro it's ridiculous 💀in my opinion him flying like that is just hilarious (btw I bought the skin)
@iceon800910 ай бұрын
Both are good from my pov. Though the Ult of Odyssey is badass, cant wait to release in Wild Rift.
@freakthefreakout7889 ай бұрын
I hope it never releases to WR. You guys ruined skins in LOL. :)
@Hamdi-Hartt10 ай бұрын
Q > Heartsteel W > Heartsteel E > Heartsteel R > Odyssey
@Brakka8610 ай бұрын
I prefer Odyssey tbh, but I like simple clean design that does not have too many effects and particles.
@yassinesellami968110 ай бұрын
Kayne without skin more reality Than both legendary skins
@jafargames11969 ай бұрын
The thing that make me like heart steal over odyssey kayn is that music listening to the music and playing is such a nice thing + Rhasst is not his enemy in this skin Odyssey Rhasst 10 times beter than heart steal but wht ever
@phiphi22098 ай бұрын
Heartsteel for the animations, especially the W, Recall, and Ult but Odyssey for the Emotes, voice lines, and especially THAT DANCE, but both have their charm points so I hope back and forth between skins all the time
@Kenchiez2809 ай бұрын
the thing about odyssey is that it shows the little icon above them when he ults
@Swinshoo10 ай бұрын
ngl i dont like how they just kinda took rhaast out of the picture and just made it to where lore accurate bro is just schizophrenic
@kouyaaotsuki475710 ай бұрын
How would you have made it? You need some kind of entity taking over kayn in a modern setting, not a lot of viable options
@adula89710 ай бұрын
Heartsteel e meu preferido pelo simples fato de o Rhaast fazer um breake dance no Q.
@yuzu999410 ай бұрын
Both are great but i still prefer odyssey
@sethwilliamson35967 күн бұрын
Biggest letdown with heartsteel is that his scythe ends up looking much lamer than base Kayns scythe. And all the other skins make it a point to make blue kayns scythe look better than regular kayns scythe
@ekko.n10 ай бұрын
The ult and the models makes Odyssey better skin
@MUGEN449 ай бұрын
this is a very small nitpick, but Rhaast Q is kinda weird and by that i mean he spins Scythe, but because of the way he's holding it(over his shoulder), his Q actually slashes with the back/stick of the sycthe instead of the sharp side of the blade.
@Archomir9 ай бұрын
Basically good new legendary skin vs low tier old legendary skin
@kurasakikenji10 ай бұрын
I really love Heartsteel concept but imma lil bit bias over Odyssey Kayn design so yeah imma go with Odyssey
@Phryke10 ай бұрын
Rhaast and the animations are sooo good for Heartsteel
@arthurmoreno48447 ай бұрын
Heartsteel has more production value and i love the design better pf both forms. But, for me, its very different to distinguish some of its animations between forms and odyssey just feels better and more fluid
@bentoobr10 ай бұрын
01:43 it's just me, but it seems that the air throw of skin heartsteel is less than the air throw of odyssey?
@xetajts842210 ай бұрын
It's mainly that it's not a throw at all, rhaast in this animation strums the scythe like a guitar to send out that shockwave whereas odyssey is a straight up slice
@Erysea9 ай бұрын
Honestly i didn't know odyssey was this good
@skxinfamous59689 ай бұрын
i do think its kind of weird that HS mostly uses the same kayn lines as rhaast or shadow assassin when they usually get a whole new set of lines
@IAmDocTho10 ай бұрын
This over odyssey for me
@alexksusenpai9 ай бұрын
More like newer vs older legendary skin, although the Odyssey kayn have a better looking red kayn and the ult animations, but still the playstyle alone in HS kayn is gonna feel different with that skin
Splashart: Odyssey Design (base): Odyssey Design (SA): Heartsteel Design (Rhaast): Equal, but I lean more to Odyssey Voicelines: Odyssey Sound FX: Equal, but I lean more to heartsteel because it's the theme Recall (all): Heartsteel Running animation: Heartsteel CTRL1: Equal, but odyssey's interaction is too good CTRL2: Odyssey CTRL3: Heartsteel CTRL4: Odyssey Death animation: Heartsteel Orb design (passive): Heartsteel Transformation animation: Heartsteel Base form Idle animation: Heartsteel Basic atk: Heartsteel Q: Odyssey W: Heartsteel E: Heartsteel R (in): Odyssey R (out): Heartsteel Shadow Assassin Idle animation: Heartsteel Basic atk: Hearsteel Q: Heartsteel W: Heartsteel E: Odyssey R (in): Odyssey R (out): Heartsteel Rhaast Idle animation: Heartsteel Basic atk: Heartsteel Q: Odyssey W: Odyssey E: Equal but odyssey is just more menacing R (in): Odyssey R (out): Heartsteel
@nekurin184310 ай бұрын
man gave us everything. and true you're right i just hate heartsteel the fact that they made kayns jaw skinny and the splash art with his tongue out i imagined kayn wise and stuff after he got trained by zed but thats not the original kayn
@joseportillo954110 ай бұрын
Agree with a lot of these except for the shadow assassin form, the model of heartsteel SA just doesn't seem that great IMO.
@Ijichi_0110 ай бұрын
For me dark star rhast >>>>
@oishiri902910 ай бұрын
@@Ijichi_01 Rhaast solos on every universe 🔥
@Ijichi_0110 ай бұрын
@@oishiri9029 well a demon lord that greedy to kill that's dark rhaast in my eye
@luvava980210 ай бұрын
i think heartsteel is better, the only thing better about odyssey is the voice
@AkOyunda9 ай бұрын
new 1350 rp skins like old 1820 rp skins new 1820 rp skins like 3250rp skins riot must remake all old skins if wanna sell
@drakootherat17359 ай бұрын
I feel like like Oddysey has better model design and ult, while HS has better animations and VFX
@schnader9 ай бұрын
Heartsteel just feels so over the top and hard to read. Also I feel like they didn't do Rhaast justice in this new skinline, even though I like his model, he feels like an afterthought.
@Sweetgxus9 ай бұрын
I prefer odissey because of the ult
@nathanbrown2719 ай бұрын
Odyssey Kayn's R imo is better. Idk the image of him above the scythe is just cool to me. But the rest of HS kayn I like bc his entire animations are playful and charismatic and I like that a lot.
@scrunglebungus499210 ай бұрын
I feel like hearsteel would be better if it actually got new lines for the different forms feels kinda lame without it
@Dravennnn25029 ай бұрын
I prefer the odessey one because it has a much cleaner animation for me.
@K1ZUN09 ай бұрын
Was that KDA Akali the one HS Kayn was texting? Lmao.
@CWuerdz10 ай бұрын
I like the new skin and will be getting it but I find it weird having Rhaast and listening to the regular Kayn VA instead of just rhaast, like it make sense with the Alter ego just kinda interesting and weird for right now
@D1CKMASTER10 ай бұрын
I already was sold on the skin as a sucker for scythes But that dance emote brings out my toxic side
@husepher10 ай бұрын
Basically Sephiroth in his second form
@5q1d8710 ай бұрын
Who cares ? I love both.
@syckray9 ай бұрын
A Legendary for a champion that already has prestige and legendary while u have a sht ton of champions twice as old as Kay with not a single Legendary
@Lyimbo10 ай бұрын
Nenhuma Skin vai superar a Kayn Azul da Odisseia
@eternalsworddavid10 ай бұрын
Pior q eu acho isso tbm, até os cromas do fdp são top, n tem um feio.
@Lyimbo10 ай бұрын
@@eternalsworddavid só uso essa skin, se eu for jogar de Kayn Azul. Ficou maravilhoso
@paula.8279 ай бұрын
Yeah the ULTIMATE for ODYSSEY 10/10
@tik603010 ай бұрын
not a fan of the "fuck the haters" personality of heartsteel kayn nor the fact that rhaast is barely there but the skin quality is undeniable
@blanketman647010 ай бұрын
Rhaast : TAKE OFF YOUR SHIRT KAYN!! kayn : 2:02
@akirarose39475 ай бұрын
Rhaast: What! Getting tired already?! Kayn: I dont see you helping out! Rhaast: IM THE SAYTH IDIOT! I ONLY HELP OUT!!!! me: Jesus Rhaast! Chill!
@jvjoaobr10 ай бұрын
Riot can't make the new Kayn skin unique Rhaast Voice lines in his form like odyssey rhaast has his own Voice lines but in HEARTSTEAL he ONLY have normal Kayn Voice lines
@UltraSexyChipotle9 ай бұрын
Kayn mains getting an ultimate skin for 20-25
@JunkoEnoshima.10 ай бұрын
Unrelated question but does anyone know which prestige skins will be made avaliable in patch 13.22 ? I am assuming the current ones like Syndra, Seraphine and alike will go away and new ones will enter right ? But the prestige skin post from months ago doesn’t give info about 13.22
@window921310 ай бұрын
It says the prestige skins entering and leaving the shop in the patch notes
@HeyItsSolar.10 ай бұрын
I'm a girl and I don't even play Kayn, but... Damn, he really stole my heart. 🔥
@Slayyyaphine9 ай бұрын
Same! but not sure what gender has to do with this
@sainttan10 ай бұрын
4:11 Heartsteel Kayn contacting KDa Akali.
@gljesa592110 ай бұрын
old scythe better on all forms and ult sound is 10x more powerful but thank god they removed the faces when kayn ults
@viictxriia10 ай бұрын
he’s hot either way idc.
@depressedcatto44769 ай бұрын
Odyssey Kayn do the T-Posting and it's enough
@i-plow9 ай бұрын
both skins are really high quality
@theallmightyteddybear9 ай бұрын
Of course the Odyssey skin looked outdated compared to the new Heartsteel Kayn but still Rhast looks SUPREME in Odyssey.
@justmazen31689 ай бұрын
Its just sad that champs that arent even that old are getting more than 1 legendary
@Xaiqaa10 ай бұрын
HIM AND AKALI ATE SO DATING AND AS AN AKALI MAIN IM HERE FOR IT
@oni115810 ай бұрын
the only thing legandary in odessey kayn is his spalshart,man the animation are so simple commpared to the new heartsteel skin
@juandavidacunapinzon9 ай бұрын
Odessey ult> all kayn ults Odyssey rhast> heartsteel rhast Odessey voicelines> all of heartsteel voicelines Heartsteel is better in shadow and base form but kayn odissey for sure is legendary
@VeloxusGaming10 ай бұрын
Heartsteel wins in animations, no contest. Visuals is more subjective, but I like both so it's kinda hard for me to choose.
@joaquincaceresguibovich318210 ай бұрын
I'm staying with odyssey just for the dialogues xd
@nebo58069 ай бұрын
odyssey dance is op
@Liyya_gray9 ай бұрын
udyssey still remeains as the best legendary in the game with the best voiceover
@cnarkarc75319 ай бұрын
hs blue kayn is w is doesnt feel like its okay meanwhile oddysey is absoulute
@maxenite9 ай бұрын
Odyssey is better in every aspect imo. Colors, vfx, voice lines, models, animations are better on Odyssey.