I think that one reason why the bishop and the state president at first believed Chad over Heather is because Heather is a woman.

Everyone thinks they should write a book, but Heather actually should. Her story is riveting and heroic beginning to end.

Never underestimate the power of female intuition.

Heather is way smarter than the people around her at the time

The reason why Heather “ has always been a problem for Chad” is because unlike everyone else, Heather can read through the nonsense. I pray for her continued healing. It’s so unfair she had to bear the brunt of a lot of hate, but she’s a strong confident woman who knows who she is.

Chad knew that Heather could see through his BS, that’s what he didn’t like about her. Not his ridiculous excuse about her fight with his brother when they were teenagers.

I have seen this over and over. It's ALWAYS the Truth teller, the Highly Sensitive Person, the one who calls out the lies, that person becomes the Scapegoat. Heather. ❤

Heather is a rock star. My heart is wrenched for her and what their family has been through. Yet she is a stalwart example of someone that listens to her gut and was not going to be deterred from standing up for the right.

I have so much respect for Hether and her clear headed and steadfast character throughout this ordeal. I hope she and her family will see closure and healing soon.

I think Emma is exactly like her Dad. She is the next Chad Daybell. She needs to be watched.

Mrs. Daybell went full DARVO (Deny, Attack and Reverse Victim and Offender) on poor Matt on that phone call. There was a reason Heather and Matt lived a day's drive from family.

All these lives destroyed for money and a piece of a$$. Utterly disgusting. I watched this when Heather was first interviewed and still think the same now as i did then. Heather is a strong ass woman. A true warrior. I wish her, her family, Tammy's family and the Woodcock's some measure of peace. I dont believe there is ever true justuce in heinous cases like this.

Heather is so incredibly intuitive , I mean wow, she knew something was off/wrong with Chad’s “ beliefs “ etc … wayyyy back then. Before he even met Lori. This was eye opening and very interesting. Heather is a good, strong, intelligent,beautiful woman and I’m proud of her, her family has been through so much and especially her with no one believing her..I hope she’s doing okay now❤ Lastly, I hope his ( chads) children can realize and grow from being so brainwashed by their father.Tammy didn’t deserve any of this 💔 if only the police would have believed and investigated properly with charles…. 🥺

I had forgotten the "imperfect wife" stuff. So women were dirt in Daybell senior's house. Checks out ✔️

After Heather testified today, this video hits much differently from when I first watched and listened to her. She is an amazing, inspiring, and insightful woman. Much respect to her and I wish her only happiness and peace in her life ❤

I watched this interview with Heather a few times. I get something new every time I watch it. Heather is a rock star and I believe her husband is too. 💜💙

It is amazing how a narcisist can destroy someone's life by spreading false rumors but the true will come out and Chad will be where he belong behind bars.

Chad's mother is so well-trained and he still found her lacking enough to disparage her in his biography

I would say that Heather Daybell is the one who can actually predict the future!!!! Chad is absolutely disgusting, revolting, dumb,and evil. He didn't deserve Tammy.

I feel awful for Tammy as well . Her heart was probably broken finding out her husband was cheating .I have to say @HiddenTrueCrime I watched this Interview a while ago and watched it again tonight . This is an Outstanding Woman And An Amazing Interview !❤❤❤

Tammy knew he was cheating! Charles did send her an email at work! Wow I feel so bad for her!

The selfish acts of these 3 people have devastated so many lives

I’m rewatching this interview & just want to express how wonderful Heather is. She’s a true warrior & I hope one day Chad’s children can come around and appreciate their Aunt.

Heather says she broke down and cried: when Tammy died. When the kids were found. Many times. Never once did we see Lori break down. That really struck me hard on this rewatch. Heather we all love and admire you. Your strength & willingness to be truthful is so amazing.

Heather has one hell of an intuition ❤

Interesting how the Cox families reaction to the bizarre situation unfolding was the same reaction as Chads parents. Deflect and deny.

It sounds to me like Tammy knew Chad was having an affair.

I'm so glad you have stepped forward! There's soooo much abuse, so many who are protected by the LDS church!!! I'm damn lucky, smart enough, brave enough to have left the craziness. My ex slept with a knife and a gun, gaslighted, threatened me, pulled a gun on my 18 year old son right to his forehead. Secret prophecies...I could go on and on.

“Where was your discernment?” Yassssss Queen!

I think Chad was beyond jealous of his brothers, especially matt. And jealous of heather !!!

What an amazing guest! Heather is so sharp! Thanks for this amazing interview!

“…I was so angry at every dumbass who believed him.” Couldn’t say it better myself.

This woman is badass I love her!

She (Tammy) probably read the email sent by Charles.

I really like this woman. I've been coming at this case sideways - first exposure has been watching Chad's trial and then I go back to learn more and more of the backstory. (Yes, I'm here tonight because I watched Heather's testimony today.) Thank you, Heather, for your strength and bravery. Much love and respect to you and yours.

I'm glad she trusted her instincts. I wish more ppl would've taken heed to her warnings. Especially the church leadership

Heather is smart and funny and has better instincts than anyone around her - Matt clearly appreciates that. This is one of the most interesting interviews i've ever seen and am grateful that Heather shared it.

I was really proud of Heather today. I could see that she was in pain, but she did a fantastic job.

What an amazing woman ♥️♥️♥️♥️

I like her authenticity. She’s real.

Heather is just such a beautiful, brave person ❤ I resonate with losing family for speaking the truth and asking questions

In spite of her feelings toward Chad, she saved his embarrassment when his brother said he wouldn't read his book. She offered to read it. How gracious of her❤

Julie Rowe is an absolute monster like the rest of them

Heather you are special, please don’t let some of the awful people around you make you feel bad. You knew before ANYONE else. Good for you, keep listening to your gut.

I'm enjoying your sit-down around the table! It's like sitting down with friends in casual but oh-so-interesting conversation❣️

"Women KNOW, and told we DON'T. Men DON'T KNOW, and told they DO!" My therapist gave me that wisdom.

😢😢 I’m so sorry this family had to go through all of this.

Id be depressed too if i had to live with that

Jack won’t apologize, he’s a stubborn man. He’s going through his own stuff knowing his son Chad is a dud. Leave Jack to his own tormented thoughts.

Heather. You are so smart and grown up. It must be hard to be the adult in the room. You are so gracious

Queen. Just like you said, Lauren

Yesssss! “Where was YOUR discernment?” 2 bishops. 2 Stake Presidents! Heather, you’ve shown how This is the Power Of Women’s intuition!

Heather, you can be infinitely proud of yourself. You did indeed do the best you could. You were so brilliant on the witness stand. You were so sincere and believable. Hold your head high. YOU are so worthy of the love you show to others. Put Chad out of your life. He does not deserve the joy he is stealing from you all. May God bless you and may you continue to serve Him as He called you. You are strong and powerful and the whole world has witnessed this. Love from South Africa.🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦❤❤

Heather should write a book and title it “Pot Stirrer” and sell more books than Chad…that will get him all flustered.

This is the interview i wanted to watch after yesterday day in trail. Can I say just from what I saw on the stand Heather your are an amazing fierce woman. You protected your marriage and your family from a toxic family that was willing to sweep things under the rug. Thank you for reaching out to Tammy when you saw something might not be right. I see myself in her. I was emotionally, mentally and physically abused. (Not saying she was physically abused) I know what isolation feels and looks like. If you're reading this thank you, your bravery has encouraged me.

I love the detail that Heather recalls and on the stand her words are the same. She’s so intelligent and wise. She knew exactly what was going on even before Lori came into the picture. I’ve really enjoyed listening to this interview over again. Heather had my support and respect 💕Thank you Lauren and John for replaying this interview. Another thing, this horrible sad event has brought so many people together. The silver lining…

Heather, Wise women have been sacrificed for centuries in all cultures both emotionally and literally. As there is no one more powerful , more God like than a woman in her truth and her intuition who is fighting for truth in the world.

I admire you for all the questions you asked! I will continue to pray for you Heather and your family. A lot more people owe you apologizes. I'm so sorry for everyone involved!!!!

Back here because of Chad's trial. Am blown away for the second time hearing Heather's side. Bless all those affected by this terrible, despicable crime. Sending love to you all from the UK💕

Wow! Coming here after her testimony in chads trial. She is an amazing, headstrong, critical thinking woman! Kudos to her!

Heather is amazing, thank you for providing a platform that she felt comfortable and could trust with her story and insights.

I wish that my LDS -connected relatives could hear her Pt 3 testimony. I tried to make the Catholic Church work for me similarly until it just didn’t. How good is good? No matter how good we think we are, it is only the blood of Jesus that cleanses us from sin & unrighteousness. Keep digging Heather - The truth shall set you free… You are deeply loved by God, and obviously admired by so many of us! ❤❤

Heather is a great and smart lady, but I want to mention her husband Matt as well. So much respect to him for always supporting her, believing her and being a great husband standing by her as it should but so often is not. Kudos to you both, you are good people.

Heather is rock solid. I enjoy listening to people like her because they ooze common sense. She must have had a very healthy childhood filled with love Something that our society has lost.

I can’t imagine being related to a serial killer like Chad. I can’t imagine being in a family in denial when his guilt is so clear. He is an apostate, a liar, an adulterer, and a murderer. I can’t imagine having to tip toe around it.

Thank you Lauren for reposting these little interviews. I respect Heather so much. I wish I had the words that could give her comfort.

As a Black woman in Baltimore, I think Heather is a BOSS! Why mention my race? As I have followed and been deeply moved by this tragic case, I often wonder if these folks would even be in the same room as me (no shade, but racism is a thing among LDS and in the midwest). I think about how my East Coast urban life is starkly different than their rural midwestern lives. I think about their politics and who they probably vote for and how every one of those votes is probably an assault on everything I hold dear. As I mourn the lives of Tylee and JJ, I wonder if they mourn the lives of the innocent children of color who die in communities like mine everyday. But as much as I ponder the differences, I also see the shared humanity. I know what it feels like to carry a broken heart for a child you never knew, or to be the woman who dares to speak truth to power, or to fight for justice against all odds, or to question institutions that provide cover for abusive men and their pursuits of money, power, and sex. Heather's strength, steadfastness, and resilience are truly an inspiration...With all of the differences, the shared humanity matters most.

She’s a real one! I’d buy her book

Poor Heather is like the canary in the coal mine who senses the impending doom and no one listens. Like a Sims character in a burning house waving her arms frantically at the sadistic player to help while being ignored and left to burn. Thanks LDS.

Tammy was supporting the household on 16k a year. Chad was having side relationships and"writing", but not contributing to the household. Also, I really don't see Lori as a second wife. She would want all the legal rights of a first wife.

I love that she wont accept chads mysogny. Im so glad you spoke up. His mother and father still support chad?

I watched the full testimony of Heather Daybell, and it called me to no end that he stuck his nose up in the air in repugnance when Heather tried to warn the LDS leaders and his father what direction Chad was going in in regard to his faith and beliefs, not to mention what inappropriate behavior he was using to get underhanded things done. Who is HE to stick his nose up at anyone when HE is the defendant in this trial?!

They really dropped the ball not having the autopsy immediately after Tammy's death 😢❤❤❤!

When I am was watching the trial and I say certain things , people would ask me , “ how do you know that “, I send them right over to , HIDDEN TRUE CRIME CHANNEL ! I couldn’t wait to share my knowledge of what I’ve learned here . Thank you so much for your powerful podcast . We love you Heather ❤

That's a good woman there. Nay, even one might say ... a goddess.

Heather, you are a strong Woman! Thank you for sharing your story!!

Heather is an amazing, strong woman, and her husband Matt knows that.. My issue is that Matt should demand his father apologize to Heather.. I dont get how Heather & Matt's children can have a relationship with their grandfather knowing how he feels and treats their mother.. My heart💔 hurts for Heather and her family dealing with all the aftermath of Chad and Lori's destruction in their daily lives😢 God Bless Them 🙏

I fully believe that he and Alex both killed Tammy. That was a two person job. No way he didn’t participate in everything that happened to Tylee. Again- a complicated two person job. I believe Alex and Lori were involved in JJ’s death and Chad dug the hole and provided the plywood and rocks. Seeing the back door that led up to the loft area where Tammy supposedly was is super creepy- whether or not she was upstairs or in her bedroom, it was super easy access to their house.

Heather is a smart and beautiful lady. She’s on the ball.

Stay strong Heather and thank you for not standing still and quiet when you knew something wasn't right. ❤ Justice will come for Tammy Tylee and JJ and also the people he decieved. I think Tammy knew he was having an affair before she died and that is why she was going to bed early and not engaging with other people as much. Poor Tammy how sad for her to have to deal with Chad for years and years

Pot stirrer Heather is not. A level headed, intuitive and honest soul amongst her family whom live(d) with the fairies in their heads, yes. I’ve watched this interview several times over the years and my admiration for Heather going against the grain and leaving the church is immense. You did well on the stand yesterday even in pain from surgery. I wish you after this trial peace in your body and healing in your family. May they look to you as the matriarch as your light and level head will I’m sure, only steer them forward vs backwards as is this truly horrific situation. Peace and love ☮️💜🌸

I’m half way through this at the point where Heather says she hopes Garth doesn’t lie for his dad. THEY BOTH DID. I hope there are repercussions. They are adults, there’s no reason to lie for their dad. Good luck to all of them.

This is a really fantastic interview 👏 🙌 I've said it for years, that lori only fell in love with his mind and he fell inlove with her body and looks lol then he lost weight 😅

I just want Heather to know how proud of herself she should be. Women in the church are taught to rely on their men, and to doubt themselves. Know that God speaks to YOU. And it’s a testament to your connection that you heard him and listened. Be proud.

Each time i watch this where Larry talks to Heather and Matt, desperately looking for tbe kids, i always tear up.

Not gonna lie… @ 27:34 I freaked out for a sec, thought Lauren had teleported. 😳 Her chair was empty!

Heather tells the truth! She’s right, Chad is not the sharpest tool in the shed, and is insecure. He will be lucky not to receive the death penalty.

Did Chad and Alex kill Eldon, the neighbor?

I feel so sad learning more about what Tammy went through .Masking for so long and her kids never looked any deeper.

I wondered if the son felt like he was responsible for her death. Chad could have put it in their mind that the drugs he shared with his mother might have caused it. It would make sense that they then agreed to no autopsy fearing he might get into trouble

Wow Heather! Thanks for sharing all your personal feelings and experiences. It couldn’t have been easy. You are right! YOU hold no guilt. I can understand that you are hurt by all the distrust everyone put on you. I don’t know if that’s what took you away from the church but I couldn’t blame you. I pray you and all the family can heal from all this. When you heal, I hope you can have peace💞. Moreover, I hope you can heal enough to feel and know the gospel is still true🙏🏻. But I would pull back to heal if I were you too!! If nothing else, can I say thanks for all the dedication and time you gave in service. Please don’t feel it was a waste of time❣️ I hope the trial can bring healing and solace. May Chad receive his punishment!!!

Chads mother wasnt very forthcoming today on the stand . She lied for him

I feel like Heather is the only one who even saw Tammy at all. I know they didn't have a great relationship, but Heather saw her as human when her own husband didn't.

And when the police did a welfare check on JJ Laurie told them that Chad was her brother Alex's friend. it's a good thing they never got their stories straight and now Chads defence is to throw Laurie under the bus.

Isn’t it interesting how now Chad is acting like he knew nothing about this and he’s disengaged from Lori. Ignored her in court, etc. Heather has great instincts!!!

She said if Matt was coming or not!!! I was out!!!! Haha she’s awesome!!!

Absolutely really respect Heather .She is a beautiful smart lady .

Heather I'm sure this has been horrendous for you and your family. It literally shattered your faith girl. Please cut yourself some slack. Your family's hard work and morals will PREVAIL! You should consider becoming a voice for the rest of women broken by this belief system that demeans and destroys them. Because most people don't have the strength and intelligence that you do. You are a true leader my dear there is no getting away from that. Please go and live your beautiful life!!! Bravo!!!

So sorry what this family has been through .. his Kids and heather and matt and his parents sad and most of all Tammy

Somebody had to stir the pot cause the pot was boiling over and that chit was about to BURN!