Heavy Drinker - Gas Tractor on the Disc Mower

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Ай бұрын

The White 2-70 gets another chance at mowing hay this summer. Last year it had water pump trouble before I got much done, this year, it should be ready to power the 10 feet wide Gehl 2360 disc mower.
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@MotoKeto Ай бұрын

As a kid we farmed our 200 acres with a 1850 gas tractor as the big horse for a lot of years. 1850 gas as main tillage tractor and a gas1800A series as planter, cultivator, mower, baler and do all tractor. Man I miss Dad all the time and farming sometimes.

@benjaminkrenz2723 Ай бұрын

Cool tractor! I remember as a kid in the 90's some old retired guys complaining how you couldn't get a gas tractor anymore. I'll take the diesel myself!

@davidmarley9471 Ай бұрын

Thanks Chris, hard to beat a gasser for a chore tractor! Also cool that it’s among the last out of Charles City.

@ThatOliverGuyChris Ай бұрын

I should have mentioned this is an early 2-70, and I only know of one other gas powered one with a lower serial number.

@lorenblount9602 Ай бұрын

Happy Father’s Day. As a farmer from central Illinois where it’s practically all John Deere and IH I really enjoy seeing your Whites and Oliver’s and the history of each piece in your collection. Thanks for keeping those tractors working.

@ThatOliverGuyChris Ай бұрын

Thanks 👍

@Dan-qy1rg Ай бұрын

The thermometer says it's feeling violated, now that is funny 😂. Love seeing the old White 2-70 in action and the Gehl cutter is a real gem. Thanks for letting us see them in action and I hope you have a wonderful Father's Day!🎉

@ThatOliverGuyChris Ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it, and thanks!

@erikhinds-cy9cx Ай бұрын

Nice. My grandparents’ gas tractor used a lot of gas, but it was cool like your old tractors. Thanks for the video.

@crazydave4455 Ай бұрын

Handled it well! Suppose that varies on speed and what you’re cutting. Good to see it getting a work out! The old gas gitter ridder 😂

@ThatOliverGuyChris Ай бұрын

I really wanted to try 4th gear, but that temperature gauge was saying don't even think about it. I should have grabbed the infrared thermometer. The aftermarket gauge goes 100 135 160 180, then 240. Who makes a gauge that jumps 60 degrees at the most important range???

@user-xh2so8ef3o Ай бұрын

Excellent - as a massive fan of gas-powered machinery, this video is awesome, thanks for posting. At the local gas station, gas is 3.50 and diesel is 4.35 so that mitigates the increased consumption

@ThatOliverGuyChris Ай бұрын

I bought recreational gas that was $4.45, but then I blended in old gas from other tractors so I think that brings the price back down.

@nielhelfert6834 27 күн бұрын

We had a Oliver white dealership in in East Helena Mt. The 1650 1655 & 2-70 were our Biggest seller. A lot of them were gas and are still running. I switched most of them over to the Mallory distributor.

@ThatOliverGuyChris 27 күн бұрын

I put a Mallory in this one when I bought it from my uncle.

@Gods33Acres Ай бұрын

It's fun for me to watch "older" White tractors in action. I grew up in Allison, Iowa - 35 miles SW of Charles City. I knew some people that worked at the Oliver/White plant back in the day. I noticed a chance in their looks when production moved to Coldwater, OH. It may have been the same tractors but the look wasn't the same. Most people won't notice any difference but I could tell. Having a White/Oliver/New Holland dealer in town, there many farmers in the area using White power.

@ThatOliverGuyChris Ай бұрын

I know some guys moved to the Coldwater area when tractor assembly moved there. That's a big thing, uprooting your family and life.

@aaronbenkert8838 Ай бұрын

Happy Father’s Day Chris. Hope your day was blessed!

@ThatOliverGuyChris Ай бұрын

It was a great day. I got a lot of family time before the forecast changed. It's now up to 100% chance for tonight, quite the change from the basically no chance 6 hours ago.

@jamieebersole6755 Ай бұрын

The only thing i miss about the haybine is the 66 was very agile in some of the small and weird shaped fields we do. But that's it.

@LarsDcCase Ай бұрын

Good video.

@ThatOliverGuyChris Ай бұрын

Thanks!

@bernardvonderheide1268 Ай бұрын

Happy Father's day. We had two 1650s back in the day diesel and gas great tractor's

@ThatOliverGuyChris Ай бұрын

Thanks!

@sterff8990 Ай бұрын

I’ve always like your 2-70! Seems like a nice versatile tractor.

@ThatOliverGuyChris Ай бұрын

It really is a handy size, and the gas engine definitely makes it nice in cold weather.

@garfield89dude32 Ай бұрын

We have an Allis-Chalmers 190 gasser on the farm we use for mowing and baling hay. It’s a good machine, and with those AC gas engines being based on their diesel engine counterparts they’re very rugged. It drinks gas, esp when working it hard but it’s very reliable and has such a unique sound compared to the diesel. Great video, love the 2-70! Happy Father’s Day!

@ThatOliverGuyChris Ай бұрын

Thanks!

@millardhayes1884 Ай бұрын

Happy Father's Day Chris.

@ThatOliverGuyChris Ай бұрын

Thanks!

@johndavidstutts Ай бұрын

I worked at a case ih dealership back in the day. They had gehl as a sideline. I remember unloading the crated implements. Did some sketchy stuff unloading the trucks.

@ThatOliverGuyChris Ай бұрын

We had a new Gehl 315 V bottom spreader come in on a truck and they had them stacked 3 high. We get checking paperwork and somebody at the dock loaded them backwards, ours was on the bottom of the pile. What a pain that was!

@jonathancrissinger2301 Ай бұрын

Happy Father's day. I could've watched more of this video. For some reason, I really enjoy the hay making videos. Thanks for sharing and I'll see you later.

@ThatOliverGuyChris Ай бұрын

Thanks! I've got some nice drone footage of the 60 running the tedder coming up.

@jonathancrissinger2301 Ай бұрын

@@ThatOliverGuyChris awesome, looking forward to seeing it.

@danherrmann8755 Ай бұрын

I have seen these tractors with a Perkins engine. Nice equipment. Later.

@rswany16 Ай бұрын

We have a gas 2-70 too!! I can confirm they love drinking gas, i raked up first cutting hay 2 weeks ago, and used half a tank. We had to replace our distributor also, with a Mallory unit. Great video and awesome information on the old White!

@ThatOliverGuyChris Ай бұрын

Thanks!

@davidvogel2592 Ай бұрын

Nice set up for cutting hay

@Tester8480 Ай бұрын

Happy Father’s Day Chris! Looks beautiful

@dvdosterloh Ай бұрын

My late dad started out with John Deere, a D and 2 model h. When he took over he needed pto power to fill silo, got two Massey Harris with the Chrysler 6 cylinder. Ran good but miserable on the 3 point plow, no draft control. When the 4010 came out he and his brother bought the 1st one the local dealer sold. "More torque, 1/3 less fuel and 1/3 cheaper fuel, what is not to like" Other than the winter starting problems I cannot understand why gas held on so long. Gehl mowers don't pull hard, I started with a Vicon, it pulled easy, ran New Idea after that still have the last one of them, says Massey by Hesston on it but it's a New Idea pulls very light. You wnat a sled try a New Holland, you better have 100 on it. We have something in common, we both had a Hesston Hydro swing. I do NOT miss sickles!

@ThatOliverGuyChris Ай бұрын

People are reluctant to change, and farmers are no different. Oliver had a program with its early diesels where they would pay for your first year's worth of fuel. That helped sell them some diesel tractors, and by 1955 Oliver had half of the diesel tractor market. Even with reaching that milestone, they turned around and put their research dollars into gasoline engines. They were able to come up with some efficient designs, but they should have been able to see that diesel was the future for high horsepower.

@jeffstephens7958 Ай бұрын

Happy father's day Chris

@ThatOliverGuyChris Ай бұрын

Thank you!

@rog4864 Ай бұрын

The 2-70 sounds good pulling the disc mower. I can imagine how much fuel that a gas powered tractor that size would burn. I knew of a couple of farmers in my area that had gas 4020 John Deeres and they said you had to about have a fuel truck following them around if they were doing hard pulling jobs.

@garybridger6707 Ай бұрын

Dejavu, all over again. Yogi. Chased out the first fawn yesterday, hope momma moved him over nite.

@ScootSack Ай бұрын

The farmer I worked for as a much younger man cut hay with a John Deere 60 gas and the 730 diesel with the 9 ft New Holland haybine. But he always wondered why it would just shred a gearbox every other year. 2 cylinders are hard on hay equipment. Now a 50 did just fine on the Rollamatic rake.

@larryklostermann5779 Ай бұрын

Nice video Happy Father’s Day Chris.

@ThatOliverGuyChris Ай бұрын

Thanks 👍

@user-uh9xk7bm7h Ай бұрын

Really a good looking tractor Chris smooth running tractor always like them

@ThatOliverGuyChris Ай бұрын

Thanks 👍

@robertlong7033 Ай бұрын

No way it could be as bad as a Allis Chalmers D19 Gas. The horror stories about those abound.

@mikemccrory8309 Ай бұрын

Some of that hay really down and tangled. Doing a good job cutting that off.

@ThatOliverGuyChris Ай бұрын

I had it set to cut pretty low, that was helping it get under all that stuff. I was worried it was going to make raking a mess, but it did a good job.

@shaunault7538 Ай бұрын

Id love to someday meet u talk to u bout ur tractors an the history of white oliver u r so awesome

@karlfischer1011 Ай бұрын

We used a 656 Farmall gas on a New Holland 411 (9ft) discbine for 20 years. about 3 gallons an hour, at 4 or 5 mph. Flat, wet ground. the maneuverability and less prominent ruts are why we continued to use it compared to our bigger tractor. The gas tractors run better the rest of the year when you actually work them for a day vs all the yard putzing they tend to get relegated to in modern times. I tried earmuffs--they amplifed a low bass boom sound that came from the drivetrain so i went with my ears unplugged and will probably regret that in a few years.

@eb17816 Ай бұрын

Maybe the 4-225 for second cutting? Because we know overkill is underrated.

@trainmasterfm2 Ай бұрын

Happy Fathers' Day, Chris! If you're taking video ideas, I'd love to see the 2-70 turnover some dirt!

@ThatOliverGuyChris Ай бұрын

It really seems to be a strong horse, and i was thinking the same thing as I was mowing. Maybe once the wheat is off. I want to do a summer seeding for some more hay ground.

@trainmasterfm2 Ай бұрын

@@ThatOliverGuyChris can't wait!

@MikeJensen-wo7oh Ай бұрын

Pretty cool. It is kind of nice to have a bigger gas tractor around. Mine is a 756 with 301 out of a 715 combine. No fuel miser but really not bad either.

@ThatOliverGuyChris Ай бұрын

I figured it was running about 1.5 gallons per acre. I should have noted the hour meter to see what the gallons per hour was.

@sammystout3558 Ай бұрын

Looks like it's doing a good job would like to see the 1655 running

@chadtosh6831 Ай бұрын

Good morning Chris. Wow, that disc mower must be using every horse that tractor has!!! Hay crop looks good. Never saw much Gehl equipment up here, but have seen some mixmills around.

@ThatOliverGuyChris Ай бұрын

It was working it, but that made that old gas go through better.

@Murphyslawfarm Ай бұрын

G'day Chad

@ThatOliverGuyChris Ай бұрын

@@Murphyslawfarm hey Murphy!

@anthonyhengst2908 Ай бұрын

That looks like a tangled mess of hay but it is cutting it very clean. Didn't realize White had gas tractors.

@ThatOliverGuyChris Ай бұрын

The 2-70 was the only model badged as a White that had a gasoline option. That was enough to make me want it.

@TheHelgadog Ай бұрын

Pretty nice old tractor! Sounds really good!

@ThatOliverGuyChris Ай бұрын

Thanks!

@mischef18 Ай бұрын

Great to see hay being cut bro, be roughly November before any gets cut here in NZ well for dry hay anyway. Enjoyed the stories being the tractor and mower too. Safe travels. Ken.

@ThatOliverGuyChris Ай бұрын

Thanks!

@joehusnik4337 Ай бұрын

I use a 930 Case gasser on my discbine . Yeah it likes ⛽️

@shaunault7538 Ай бұрын

Happy fathers day thank u so much for ur whites an olivers bring childhood memories back best tractors ever

@baileyattheoliveracreage Ай бұрын

At the local salvage yard a few years back they had just gotten a 2-70 gasser in. Another local white user bought it up and has it. Not sure if it runs or not. It had distributor problems when it went in for salvage

@ThatOliverGuyChris Ай бұрын

When those Holley distributors go, it throws a lot of guys off. Things down in the advance get loose or broken and it's impossible to keep them timed.

@michaelbaker826 Ай бұрын

Wonderful video. Thank you for sharing. It was entertaining and informative!!!

@ThatOliverGuyChris Ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

@johnwarren-649 Ай бұрын

Shes handling pretty good the water temperature is up there but that gets all the carbon blowed out it

@robertcheatham2891 Ай бұрын

I used to use one like that probably the nicest cutting mower I ever used. Looks like your hay went down.

@ThatOliverGuyChris Ай бұрын

We have had some strong storms this spring.

@jamieebersole6755 Ай бұрын

And my grandpa famed with just one Oliver 60 way back in the day.

@ThatOliverGuyChris Ай бұрын

I bet it beat being behind a horse all day

@jamieebersole6755 Ай бұрын

@ThatOliverGuyChris technical difficulties I guess but this comment was supposed to be on the 60 short 😆

@ThatOliverGuyChris Ай бұрын

@@jamieebersole6755 I thought it seemed misplaced, but that makes it like my car keys, and I like them.

@jamieebersole6755 Ай бұрын

@@ThatOliverGuyChris 🤣

@glennschlorf1285 Ай бұрын

All My main tractors are Gassers... Oliver 1600c IH560, 544 and John Deere 3020 my main tractors for farm work... I dont need a disc mower.... you can get em way cheaper

@Murphyslawfarm Ай бұрын

G'day Chris awesome video mate

@ThatOliverGuyChris Ай бұрын

Thanks Murphy!

@paulprillwitz9901 18 күн бұрын

👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

@tammygurke7482 Ай бұрын

Hey Chris love your videos. As I said, my hubby used to use Oliver’s. Do you ever hire help to help you farm?

@ThatOliverGuyChris Ай бұрын

I have a couple of friends that sometimes come over to help in the fall. I do hire out my trucking, spraying and fertilizer spreading, so that helps ease the load.

@mikeadler434 Ай бұрын

👍👍

@Ham68229 Ай бұрын

For this sized of tractor, I'd love to find me a gas powered one, as you said, winter time gas beats the diesel. And, in some situations, gas still beats diesel but for the power/torque ratio, diesel better way to go. I honestly didn't know Ghel made a disc moco. That 2-70 sure does sound good. Cheers :)

@ThatOliverGuyChris Ай бұрын

The mower frame is basically an Owatonna, which Gehl had bought out. They bought the cutterbar from Kuhn, so they didn't have to come up with too much to put one on the market.

@shawnartz7113 Ай бұрын

Hey was that beer or cheese a dig on those to the north west 😂

@ThatOliverGuyChris Ай бұрын

😂 Beer or Tea. Maybe you've been in Wisconsin too long. 😆

@michaelsheeder148 Ай бұрын

Chris, we know it's another Sunday you're rocking another white tractor for today. Question for you on your hey do you typically sell it or do you use it yourself? I know Ross always seems to end up buying hey 😉 Happy Father's Day 👍 thanks Michael

@ThatOliverGuyChris Ай бұрын

Thanks! I sell all my hay, other than the stuff I donate to my brother's petting zoo.

@codygriffin4225 Ай бұрын

Good way to clean up the carbon in that engine

@ThatOliverGuyChris Ай бұрын

It sure is.

@joshcrd7925 Ай бұрын

Its funny to me that even into the Whites they never switched to the updated dash on the smaller tractors. It would have been cheaper production wise to just have one dash.

@ThatOliverGuyChris Ай бұрын

Using the newer dash would have presented its own problems. These still used mechanical brakes, so getting the linkage to work on a dash designed for hydraulic brakes would have added some expense. I'd also be willing to bet the 55 series dash is a little taller and wider, which would have caused problems with the sheet metal. At that point they were trying to keep the smaller models priced lower to be competitive, and all of those improvements would have to be reflected in the retail.

@colinwallace5286 Ай бұрын

I’m guessing that this is still a US tractor. I did a lot of haying with a WHITE 2/60, but it was a little diesel FIAT with some different trim and lighting, and the ROPS canopy on it.

@ThatOliverGuyChris Ай бұрын

Yes, it was built in Charles City Iowa. At the time it was the smallest US built tractor in the White line up.

@randybennett5417 Ай бұрын

I grew up on a farm years ago. I was wondering how many horsepower tractor is prefered to operate a discbine ? We had a sickle bar mower and a crusher.

@ThatOliverGuyChris Ай бұрын

Gehl recommended 80 for this one. It depends on what you are mowing. Most hay you can get by with less, but if you want to mow at 7 or 8 mph in some really heavy crop, you're going to need every one of those 80 horses.

@silasmccarty6857 Ай бұрын

Need to set your header floatation mister 10:53

@ThatOliverGuyChris Ай бұрын

This way gets me more comments on the video. 😂

@landontesar3070 Ай бұрын

Hay Chris, does a mower with a reel do a better job of picking up lodged grass? Is this only needed on a sickle type mower?

@ThatOliverGuyChris Ай бұрын

Yes, if you slow your ground speed the reel will help pull the crop in, but without the reel there isn't anything to move the crop into the conditioning rolls. The discs do lift and push the crop into the rolls, so no reel is needed

@randyrobinson8751 Ай бұрын

3020& 4020 gas will suck 5 gallons an hour

@WisconsinOliverNut Ай бұрын

Beautiful video! What makes the disc mowers need more power? Just the higher cutting speed or do they turn over harder too? I’ve never used one, we only had a haybine when I was a teen.

@ThatOliverGuyChris Ай бұрын

The discs are all gear driven , and spin around 3000 rpm. Blade tip speed is 170 mph! But all that lets you go faster. I've run this one up to 10 mph ground speed just to try it. It mowed just fine, but I'm not sure how long I could stay in the seat at that speed. 😂

@WisconsinOliverNut Ай бұрын

@@ThatOliverGuyChris wow !

@user-qh1dk3fh5q Ай бұрын

Would it be worth while to repower with a diesel?

@ThatOliverGuyChris Ай бұрын

Not to me. These are quite rare with a gas engine. I've got plenty of diesels of I want to run one.

@wingrider687 Ай бұрын

Chris does that tractor run hot at all or is it just thirsty?

@ThatOliverGuyChris Ай бұрын

It was running a bit hot. That gauge doesn't have any markings between 180 and 240, so it's hard to say how hot it really is. I should have grabbed my infrared thermometer to verify the temperature.

@wingrider687 Ай бұрын

@@ThatOliverGuyChris that’d be a great retired tractor for shows and parades too!

@corydriver7634 Ай бұрын

Man that’s some tall hay, is this an average first cutting for you?

@ThatOliverGuyChris Ай бұрын

This is probably one of the heavier 1st cuts for me. We had a favorable spring for hay growth.

@whiteeagletrans9850 Ай бұрын

Is the gas 2-70 a bigger cubic inch engine than the diesel I am restoring case tractor and the gas and diesel are different cubic inche engines

@ThatOliverGuyChris Ай бұрын

The gas is smaller. 265 cubic inches for gasoline, and 285 for diesel. They wanted them to have the same pto horsepower.

@Damien80279 Ай бұрын

What do diesel 2-70 dyno? I have been told close to 80hp

@ThatOliverGuyChris Ай бұрын

Nebraska had them at 70.1 hp.

@jakepratt5243 Ай бұрын

Hi Chris I'm looking at a Oliver 1950 mfwd they are telling me that fuel rack is stuck. How hard is it to get parts? The tractor looks identical to Hermen. How much do you think they are worth? He also has a Oliver 2255 mfwd. How much do you think that is worth?

@ThatOliverGuyChris Ай бұрын

The engine parts aren't too bad from what I hear. If the rack is stuck, don't try to start it, the engine will over rev. There's quite a few channels on KZfaq that feature Detroit Diesel engines. I think Ol2Stroker has a video on freeing up a stuck rack. A lot of times it's just a matter of pulling the valve cover and getting stuff freed up. Honestly, I don't know what to think of values any more. Especially on rare and popular items like a 1950 and 2255 fwa. Prices seem to be all over the place.

@jakepratt5243 Ай бұрын

Ok thank you!