Hahah better start saving up

That's the perfect world! So I contributed money to Blender because I think the project can not stop.

Best comment about Blender ever!!! lol can't stop laughing!

Crappy software is still crappy even if it's free. This is why linux still has no desktop market share, even when windows has turned in to a complete pile of crap.

@@MAGAMAN but Blender is not crappy, so...

yeah.... me tooooooo

BUMP

Bump

Bumpin' that too. Especially since now there's 2.9.

@@Pewi73 Me as well!

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you don't understand anything about 3d programs, 2 programs are professional, 3ds max and The Foundry MODO because they make your job easier, and if you know how to use them you do truly extraordinary things, maybe you like blender more because it's a free program, but I assure you that you can't compare blender with 3ds max or blender with The Foundry MODO because blender can't compare with programs like 3ds max and The Foundry MODO they are too professional.

Where did you get it?

m.kzfaq.info/get/bejne/irh1hrCGytTckWw.html

Yeah blender is for one Man army guys haha

Thanks for the recommendation! Love DaVinci and glad that it's free :)

Yes - it *IS* mind-blowing. Stuns me every time I use it, actually. Once the word gets out that the UIX isn't that clunky 2.4 version any more, I think a lot of people are going to jump to Blender.

Nice, that would be good timing.

If I were you I'd learn 2.79 now and feel right at home when 2.8 comes out. There's a 2 hour free tutorial on Udemy for beginners which is the best tutorial to get started.

A lot is changing with 2.8 as well. It might not be good to get used to a keymap and control scheme that is in the works. 2.8's "beta" is supposed to be out this year though, so the wait won't be that bad.

The basic keymaps won't change at all. What's changing is actually getting improved, not something you'd have to learn from scratch if you're coming from 2.79. So there's really no point at all in waiting, and you can also go ahead and download the dev build of 2.8. Really, give yourself a head start, you won't regret it!

Sort of, they will retain a basic legacy keymap.. however Blender's keymap is quite bad and has very little compatibility with the industry standard choices. Thus its not good to build up habits around it. I suppose the OP could use the Maya keymap that is found in Blender as it is now, but still one will have to adapt again to some changes with 2.8. See: developer.blender.org/T54963 ^its better to hold out for that. Additionally, if the OP is already using software they are familiar with then there really is no rush to jump to 2.79 when 2.8 beta is around the corner. This is just my opinion though.

Thanks for the kind words!

Main difference as I said in the video are modifiers and rendering, which makes things faster. I still think Modo wins in the pleasant/easy to use category.

I was like you, then in 2006 I sat down and read the manual. Every single day for 2 weeks, 30 min to an hour of reading, then another bit of turning everything into rote-memory. I practiced everything I learned for at least 30 min before going to bed. Now, 15 years later, I can still use it. Unfortunately some really handy philosophy was scrapped, like left-click being finalize instead of selection... but it's still pretty cool. Anyway, if you're still having problems, and for anyone like you, I'll try to list out some techniques to "get familiar" assuming you've just opened it up. You'll see a giant cube in front of you, and you wanna select it. Select it with either mouse button. Hit tab to enter Edit mode, hit tab again, that's object mode. Hit tab a bunch more times and say "edit, object, edit, object". Do this trick with everything I'm about to say. Shift-A is add (unless you changed it on purpose to spacebar when first started) MIDDLE MOUSE button is your navigation. Hold Shift to pan. Mess with ctrl, alt, and shift, and press the middle mouse. Every 3D software uses this except Modo for some reason. Bottom bar, just below viewport has Edit/Object mode, then axis (Global, local, pivot, etc), to the right is vertex, edge, face select. Select the face button, then pick a side on cube. the A button is "ALL" for selecting. tap it twice to deselect all, or try combinations of alt with A if you have issues. Press W for an all-around tool to subdivide. If you can't find it, hit F3 and search, it gives shortcuts for specific ones. 2 divisions, 3 by 3 is what you want (for practice). Now here's the tools you'll use most of the time. G for Grab. Select only the middle face and move it outward. Fun, huh? But you want more control, so here's a present: hold the Control key for unit-based movement. It will only snap one unit at a time. Move it around this way using the arrows. Put it back (if you want) and hit E. You'll notice this extrudes it. Be careful, if you don't move it, then you have an extra set of verts. Move this thing using Control for snap to units, but shift is for precise moving. Even more precision uses Z toolbar. Hit Z for the toolbar, wow, you can now move things specifically where you want. Let's get some more advanced. (B) Bevel edges after selecting all the edges with shift or ctrl. Selecting the wrong ones? Well check out that square with 8 mini dots next to it on the selection bar area, it's called Backface culling. Turn it on. Now you can only select what's visible. Handy. But you want more precision, so you've decided to only make visible the area you're working on. Alt B to draw a border around it, then Alt B again to see the rest of the world. Ok now that you've gotten the hang of some basic stuff, let's give you a shortcut. When editing something with the tools, hit middle mouse, and it will only rotate around the axis that you moved closest to. Hit the button again and/or move the mouse before hitting it to lock it to the other. Combine this with what you learned above for hyper precise movement. This also works on faces, verts. Speaking of verts, Weld, Join and, the F key for Faces are going to be your friends. Go look them up. Ingrain them into your muscles before much longer. Ctil K is (K)nife cut. Use it to split edges into things. Merge/Weld will undo and remove duplicates. Facing the wrong way? Look up Normal tools to see and change. Don't forget (I)nsets for when you need to extrude something but keep the bevel in it. That should be just about everything until you get into material, lighting, and more advanced stuff. After over a decade, those haven't changed. And I forgot one last thing, you can (S)nap the cursor to the grid if you wanted to move it, however hold Shift and hit S. That is one way to ensure the cursor is placed where you want new object.

Have you seen the new Grease pencil tools? I wish I was a concept artist for the sake of using those.

mission accomplished :)

This is the latest version: gumroad.com/l/BraunHL70 Good luck!

nah youre lying

@@joeyparenti7815 You're joking, right? lol bc that's literally what happened when I went to college

@@ADreamCalledeternity youre literally lying

@TreGear Bassam Kurdali! They were so fun to work with, super inspiring and talented!

Yup, hope it helps

Extruded the cutlines then boolean intersect to fit them to the body

@@Heavypoly do you have a short vid for that. I'm not familiar with the Boolean workflow and extending some cut lines then intersecting then with what ?

True, but which would you rather work with: A separate hotkey for each delete type or 1 hotkey which knows what type of delete to use based on what you have selected.

Yes you can do that with particle / hair systems

Oh great, thanks! Now I know where to look :D

And procedural noise textures combined with deform and displacement modifiers, there is a free add-on ( -might be a core distributed add-on- oh just checked, yep it's in the Testing category) called Rock Generator, that should give you a really good idea of some of the possibilities (: If you have the patience, it's not actually that difficult to mess around with the shader node system and create Substance like materials (much simpler) within Blender, which you can bake out to textures. A pipe-line that's scriptable (but rather cumbersome by default, much like issues brought up in this video). tangentially you can also use the procedural noise texture types as masks for the painting and sculpting brush too.

Yup, check gumroad.com/vling

They both have about the same capability modelling wise. Blender has some nice modifiers, EEVEE and Cycles which was my reason for jumping in.

Blender

It’s called “generated” rather than “UV” texture coordinates.

Yup..I'm a little guilty of it too now but ah well. It's a fun time to be 3D modelling in general.

Just check 2.8, it is completly different now. Actually Blender 2.8 feels like Modo.

@Darren Munsell 2.8 IS still in beta though, not ready for production

Check bforartist. It is blender but with more customized ui

Now blender has best ui, try it

I saw that Blender has revamped everything, so I’m giving it ANOTHER go. And there seem to be TONS of tutorials on KZfaq now which could make all the difference. :). Even Flipped Normals is in on it. And some new guy Josh Grambel (?) has been pumping out insane tuts I’m actually excited this time!

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rN-Tm9d1rZmooqs.html This goes over the custom setup...to make your own menus, search Blender Python

The config files are in the description here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rN-Tm9d1rZmooqs.html

Heavypoly Yes I found them! Really impressive amount of work put into those. Are the pie menus still performant? Seeing how many and how big the python files are. I've done a lot of python in Maya and it's often not the fastest. Have anyone else tried to make blender more context sensitive? Or is everyone on their own custom settings with that? But thanks a lot and just to be sure, do you grant permission to make changes?

Performance is unaffected as far as I know. And yes modify them to work for you, just please credit me if you're gonna reuse it somewhere and keep it free/open. I've seen a demo of Blenderpro which looks pretty clever.

I think this is CPU+GPU, 8cpu + 2 gpu tiles

Merhaba.Yaklaşık 1 yıldır modo kullanan birisi olarak özellikle ülkemizde Modoya kıyasla daha çok tercih edildiği için Modonun yanına Maya programına yöneldim.Fakat maya her nekadar kaliteli olsada bana çok yavaş geldi.Şuan EEVEE ninde etkisiyle blender bana çok cazip geliyor fakat zamanımıda boşa harcamak istemem.Modoyuda kullanmış birisi olarak kıyaslıyabilirmisiniz.Program hızı,modelleme ve kalite anlamında Modo mu Blender mı?

My scripts are very different from default. I would recommend doing a basic video using defaults then trying the scripts to see the differences and if it's worth it for you.

yes that makes sense ,thank you very much :)

only timelapse

I show how to do the smoke here, it's not a simulation, just particles with a bit of hacking to get it working in 2.8 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Z8VmlbSEurfOm3k.html

Check out this video, there's alot of pies and custom scripts that do the stuff you're talking about kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rN-Tm9d1rZmooqs.html

I'm already watching it. Thank you.

Also wait for 2.8 to roll around. This: developer.blender.org/T54963 Will give Modo users a more familiar approach to working with Blender. There is also a new feature that lets you right click on just about anything and make it a quick access item within a pull up menu. It will be a lot easier to get Blender to act similar enough to Modo in that regard, especially the 1-3 component selection.

I started learning Blender because of 2.8! I saw a video about 2.8 new features and I was happy to see that lots of things finally are "common to other applications". What I mean is that finally I saw behaviours that are similar to other applications and that almost stantard nowadays! For example in 2.8 if you click a button the command doesn't start immediately! It start when you click! I was very impress because this is common in every application except Blender. I hope they get rid of the right click for the 3d cursor and stuff like that...Blender users are used to that but a newbie find those things annoying. I cannot wait to see 2.8 and to learn hot to create piemenus and shortcuts.

@@RobotJeeg Now left click is default in Blender 2.8

Modo has a great UI over all, and they're doing well with what they've been trying in 12.1. vimeo.com/276195509#embed Still, there is no reason the new Blender UI can't be just as good or better. Nothing wrong with gleaning UI ideas off one another IMHO.

Recently they said June so that's probably Christmas in blender language!

Subscriptions are killing the paid software industry. Yo no longer own your software and if you decide you don't want to pay monthly, you lose all access to the software. This means that developers can be lazy and only add 1 or two new things to their updates, and you can't say, nope, I'll skip this version, like you used to be able to do.

agreed, blender cloud is a great way to support!

Unfortunately I think blender foundation is richer than most of us anyways!

While the speed of development isn't what you may want, or in areas you want, I wouldn't spread misinformation like this. Mesh ops came after Mesh Fusion for instance. I'm not going to try and defend the development cycle of MODO in terms of pace, but just saying it stopped at Mesh Fusion is just wrong. Before you get all upset, don't think I don't like blender too. I have my little USB rocket right in front of me on my desk. What I don't like is people just spreading BS without checking on their facts first.

Anyway the new price that has doubled for no other reason than milking it, the lack of development and his competitor Blender that is free and evolves quickly will slowly kill Modo and the size of his community. And since Modo is acquired by a profit only corporation I don't really care about the future of the software, I am just sad for their users but maybe they will feel comfortable with Blender if they give it enough time.

Yes, price has gone up. That is true. Not sure blender will be what kills MODO or not. Could happen, but I think other factors are at play too. Don't quite understand though why you hate MODO so much. Honestly Autodesk has done a lot more to damage the CG marketplace than the Foundry ever has.

Both aim to earn as much money as possible even if it harms the CG industry as long as it is profitable, this reason alone should be an argument to boycott it if a non-profit alternative exist. You will say that it is what most capitalism companies do, but Luxology tried to make interesting modelling tools at least, while The Foundry doesn't seem to care much of his future. I know Autodesk has killed 50+ software and technologies but The Foundry isn't an example too, they never innovated they maintain their high price from their software that were popular in the past before the competitors come out. They do nothing to keep them up to date and be competitive. Substance Painter is much more recent than Mari and is already the industry standard for PBR texturing and they had the time to rewrite it from scratch with their small team in France while Mari hasn't changed since decades and they don't have any plan other than costing 8 times the price of Substance Painter (for a painting tool!) until the software dies. Nuke is bloated and cost the price of a small car for a compositing tool, their past updates were just some performance improvements. The price of Mari, Nuke and Modo and their lack of innovation reflects how greedy this company is, I won't be surprised if a massive lay off is announced like Autodesk did at the end of 2017 after their bad behavior with their customers and greedy strategy. At least artists start to understand that they have been scammed by those companies and their money invested to kill innovations, technologies and jobs. They are giving more time to try Blender. Using Blender isn't just using another software, it is contributing to innovate in the CG field and for a passionate like me, it is important to avoid every corporate CG companies. And I would feel very bad to give them money while being aware that those companies kill software, innovation and jobs that is why I try to stick with FOSS software in my workflow even if the software is limited, for example I stay with GIMP instead of Photoshop and Godot instead of Unreal.

Yea, it feels like a gigantic snowball at this point

Thanks Andreas

Hi Ron, they are doing great work but plenty more can be improved. I've made the changes I wanted with my scripts/configs.

@@Heavypoly I took your Modo class a few years ago and honestly could not get into it (no fault of yours-you were a good teacher). I came from the SketchUp world, so it was just too overwhelming and it didn't feel that user-friendly in comparison. I'm taking a dive into Blender now since I'm seeing a lot of concept artists starting to talk it up-at least it's free! I feel like it's time to expand into other 3D, plus I'd like to use it in conjunction with Photoshop to expand into doing concept art.

Good news for your there is a full game engine being made, to have full blender intigration, and it's open source. It's called Armory3D.

Yes, since at least Modo 701, Modo 15 is the latest.

BlenderGuru is what a lot of us start with, just be aware his videos are full of self-advertising these days (good products, though, so not a bad thing). CGCookie probably has the best mix of quality and variety. Blender cloud has some great stuff, although some of it is outdated (but Blender has stayed consistent, for the most part, and old versions are all available). Blenderdiplom has some good stuff. Gleb Alexandrov, Zachariaa Reinhardt, very talented artists. I think there's CG Geek, or maybe it's CG Master, could be both. There are plenty on youtube, gumroad, etc. The community is pretty open and helpful-- blenderartists.org has some gold you can never find in regular tutorial sites. I'd also recommend reading the blogs of artists that you like, using any software. You'll be able to use the same or similar techniques. I have to use Maya for schoolwork and I can't tell you how much I've been able to bring over from Blender, and the Maya artists are surprised because they never thought to use the software like that. Similarly, learning Maya has helped me in my Blender art.

I think both have the ability to do 'only faces' but how often do you use that in regular modelling?

I find all the options useful.

Yup, I guess a benefit of experience with all those programs is you can jump to another one relatively easily.

Eh depends on what you find value in. For example, if substances are a big part of your workflow, and you need to work natively in your DCC with substances... then Blender simply cannot complete due to its licensing. It struggles with FBX workflows as well. GPL can be a limiting factor as to what it is compatible with. This may change in the future, but for now there are some areas that Blender cannot compete evenly in. Some of it is due to lack of development, the other due to licensing issues. Its a shame that there is truly no one perfect application.

Honestly it's the industry's tendency towards patent-encumbered, license-restricted standards and formats like FBX that should be looked at as the issue here. It's one thing to create some proprietary format that's designed to be used only with your application, but for industry-wide interchange formats, an open, freely-licensed standard should be seen as the only proper solution. In that regard, glTF2 seems to be a nice one to aim for, and is thankfully slowly being picked up (UE4 for example is working on implementing support for it).

+Anthony Flagg The industry goes towards what works and what gets the job done. The ideological equation is not really a factor. There is also nothing wrong with that. In the case of FBX, it had a big head start, with it appearing in everything from C4D, Softimage, Lightwave and 3DS Max. In the usual fashion, Autodesk only became the owner of FBX (film box) after Kaydara sold to Alias, which in turn sold itself to Autodesk. Part of the issue is the licensing for Blender itself when it relates to proprietary file formats. On one hand we have a hard coplyleft which demands everything is open source (GPL) and on the hand we have a copyright which protects closed source. If you want the middle ground where both can play nice you start to look at license types such as MIT and Apache. I agree with you though in that open file formats, while not always possible due to what they are part of, are ideal for the kind of industry we are in. glTF looks like its off to a good start, and there is willingness to adopt it.

M Hurly I misinterpreted nothing. You seem confused, Open Source is an approach, GPL is the license type. The license type is the problem. Cycles is not GPL. Were you aware of that? It is licensed under Apache 2.0. The most popular Open Source license is MIT. Both of those are considered permissive licenses. It also is considered "CopyCenter", as opposed to CopyLeft or CopyRight. Since Cycles is Apache 2.0, it can be used in closed source, commercial packages. If it was licensed as GPL, that could not happen without the target also changing its license to one that is compatible with GPL. Its for this reason why Allegorithmic cannot create a direct substance plugin (same as the ones that exist in Maya, Modo..ect). Remember, Open Source is a broad category, focus on the licensing and you will understand the inherent problems with GPL. GPL is only one license type (out of many) under the open source category.

Funny you say that, when i was using Maya (2011 and 2013) it was defacto in the places around me to use Roadkill, if you look into it Roadkill's code was lifted directly from blender, and they even mention as much. it might have fallen behind a tad in the last 2 years or so but before that it was miles ahead for a long time.

Agree

use Unfold3D, literally the best UV unwrapping software.

Left bar yea, but I think that's just a general trend in modern software to have a toolbar with icons. To me the main meat to Modo's interface is the context sensitive tools, although the pretty icons are nice icing on the cake. Also I really hope Blender can get simple drag and drop for multiple items in the outliner....that still drives me crazy.

Ctrl X is good but it doesn't delete verts if I remember correctly, I have a context sensitive delete that replaces X, and can delete everything including objects and stuff in the outliner

This works for dissolve but not for delete...I have a menu that lets you delete faces, objects, edges anything all without any popup...it just deletes whatever you have selected

Yes, right, it´s "just" dissolve. Good that you found a way to make it work for you :)

Sorry, I don't do much animation so can't give my opinion. 2.8 is supposed to have major improvements for animation so might be worth a look!

Maya as the most tools, tutorials and resources readily available for animation, however, it's not cheap and blender can do everything Maya can if you know a bit of scripting. For starting and learning animation I recommend Maya, for working in the film or game industry I recommend Maya. As for modo and houdini, the focus of these software is not animation, houdini animation tools are a bit more mature than modo but they do not compare to blender and maya.

Thank You,You two are interested and for feedback :) I do not have coding knowledge and never used yeast or max before,Is it hard to switch from Modo to Maya?

Blender animasyon konusunda oldukça iyidir. Geçiş konusuna gelince, başta zor gelir ama alışınca diğerleri sana saçma gelir. Diğer programlardaki pencere üstüne pencere açma ve sürekli tıklama yapısı Blender'da yoktur. Blender'da nerede ise her şeyi tek ekranda istediğin düzende görüntüleyebilir, çalışma ekranını istediğin gibi dizayn edebilirsin ve her şeyi kısayollarla halledebilirsin. Birkaç eklenti yapılsa daha iyi olur dersin ama zaten 2.8 ile o eklentileri yapıyorlar. Geçiş için 2.8'e direk geçiş yap, çünkü eski render motoru kaldırılıyor 2.8 ile ve yerine çok daha gelişkin bir motor getiriliyor: Eeevee. Nerede ise Unreal Tournament 4 motoru ayarında bir motor olacak bu motor: tamamen gerçek zamanlı ve PBR tabanlı. Cycles zaten VRay ayarında bir motor. İkisi ile işlerini rahatça halledersin.

If you are really into animation then your program is Maya and it's because it's an industry standard and when you want to work in a studio then you have to know Maya. Also if you are interested what program your favorite game studio uses just go to artstation.com and under jobs, you can find every studio that is looking for people and they also describe what you need to have. If you want to see what a film studio of your choice uses just search on their website under job application and there they also have the programs listed you need to know. It comes down to 3DS Max and Maya. All the other programs are specific and not used anywhere.

I felt the same way about Modo vs Blender's UI. I spend a few years tweaking the Blender UI to something much more streamlined for modelling, check it out: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/b76Sl6iarcyvmIk.html

try testing testing the new blender 2.8 beta. The UI was overhauled and in my opinion it is awesome, you might like this time. I am not a pro though just an enthusiast.

This is such a good point... I' have license of C4D, and with this new release of C4D and Blender... I am thinking if I should fork over 1500 just for an upgrade price..Im a bit angry about that.. but at the same time, I work so fast in C4D, I've been working with it for about 10 years.. and with Blender, I feel its a lot clunky in several places... So, since I make money out of a 3D software, I feel that C4D will pay for itself very shortly, whereas It would take me 4x to achieve the same thing in Blender, at least for the first year of use.

Thanks for the correction

Yeah, I would like to see nightly or more frequent updates too for small fixes. Since they've got MODO running as SAS (Software as a Service) now you'd expect more frequent updates. Anyway, wasn't trying to detract from the good things about Blender since there are many, just trying to dot the I-zz and cross the T-zz. ;-) Personally I want Blender, Houdini AND MODO to succeed. Anything to help counter AD is a win in my book at least in the near term. That's why I went for the Blender funding campaign and have my little rocket on my desk. Well that and I've used blender on a few paid projects. ;-)

The other factor was direction and speed of development

In short Blender is professional 3D software it's used in film and game industry, back in his day of development and they using it now..Blender was start creating in 1988 by Ton Roosendaal (it's creator), in time were Maya was not existed...Well, catching with industry - professional studios like Tangent Animation was moved since 2016 from Maya to Blender (look NextGen movie created full in Blender), UbiSoft are moved to Blender, Khara Studio (half studio use Blender, other half will use after license expiration with 3DS max) will soon completely be under Blender, Trace Studio use Blender in AAA Game Development.... Some pro artist already moved from Maya and 3DS MAX to Blender, soon will be more plus it's free software. Like you see, want we or not Blender will be soon an industry standard by it's nature.