3D Printed Helicopter Collective for MSFS2020, Xplane & DCS

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Karl Clarke

Karl Clarke

Күн бұрын

This project started five years ago in my tiny shed in Brunei. With the help of a few pilots, we were able to prove that the unit could be created from 3d printed parts, and the stepper motor could be used as a mag brake, parallel and series actuator. This allowed the design to be much smaller and achieve some design parameters we have not seen in other builds. These are:
Collective hold,
Force Trim/Force Feel,
Beep Trim (electric increase/decrease of the collective)
and autopilot input (still very much a work in progress)
This video is the first of 3 in the series.
Video 2: cyclic build
Video 3: wiring and programming.
If you would like to help support the channel and the build, our Patreon link can be found here:
PATREON
/ 737diysim
STL FILES HERE:
www.737diysim.com/product-pag...
CAD & STL files for purchase here:
www.737diysim.com/product-pag...
The Plans/Designs/Parts and wiring diagrams are available at:
www.737diysim.com/copy-of-bui...
Facebook: Boeing738v2
Instagram: 737DIYSIM
A massive Thank You to Sebi Woelke for the Intro and Logo!
0:00 Intro
2:30 Learning To Fly
8:50 Force Feel Build
12:28 LHS Frame Build
15:16 RHS Frame Build
17:06 PBA Build
22:33 Main Body Assembly
27:00 Twist Throttle Assembly
31:52 Stepper Motor Rigging
32:48 Collective Grip Build
41:29 Collective Box Build
43:00 Collective Faceplate Build
47:23 Cable Idents and Wiring
53:43 Collective base and Grip Mating
58:35 Collective Force Feel Rigging
1:00:00 Collective Balance Rigging
1:02:45 Outro

Пікірлер: 249
@rafael.a.aponte
@rafael.a.aponte 5 ай бұрын
(This is just a 'drive-by' comment.) I haven't watched much of the video, but after seeing the thumbnail image and clicking on it, I just had to say that you build amazing stuff, and your videos inspire me to learn a lot more and to put that knowledge into practice in my own sim, which is very much in the planning stages. Thanks.
@joelbosshoss9029
@joelbosshoss9029 Жыл бұрын
Truly impressive. Enjoyed seeing the functionality come together.
@helimech8152
@helimech8152 Жыл бұрын
Hi Joel, Thank you! Defo one of my more indepth videos. Kind Regards, Karl
@Mawyman2316
@Mawyman2316 6 ай бұрын
15:28, reading quality is higher in a hall sensor but really its for futureproofing. Pots WILL die, and sometimes fairly quickly, its what kills pretty much all flight controls on the market eventually and so people would rather spend a little more and have a hall sensor which as far as I have heard will last at least double but theoretically for a lifetime.
@arthurwilliams3479
@arthurwilliams3479 Жыл бұрын
If I can make a suggestion on the throttle, some PTFE Teflon spray or even PTFE powder as used by bicyclists on plastic parts would make that throttle as well as other parts without bearings run really smoothly. Really superb build. Thank you for sharing.
@Nate-ip4qo
@Nate-ip4qo Жыл бұрын
That's really impressive. Can't wait to see the other videos in the series.
@helimech8152
@helimech8152 Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I need to get a move one and finish the next one! Its already been a week!
@TheRealOzWookiee
@TheRealOzWookiee Жыл бұрын
Wow this looks incredible!
@helimech8152
@helimech8152 Жыл бұрын
Hopefully works incredible too! Thank you!
@guilhermebrito4837
@guilhermebrito4837 Жыл бұрын
Outstanding work!
@helimech8152
@helimech8152 Жыл бұрын
Thank you kindly!
@konturgestalter
@konturgestalter Жыл бұрын
your work is just fantastic.
@helimech8152
@helimech8152 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much 😀
@randysteven88
@randysteven88 Жыл бұрын
Mad Skillz! Starting my own 737 build soon, so much thanks for the time and effort that you have put in to it and that you are willing to share it :)
@helimech8152
@helimech8152 Жыл бұрын
Hello and Thank you for the kind words! Good luck on your build!
@StigBSivertsen
@StigBSivertsen Жыл бұрын
Again, just amazed at the work involved, truly impressive... 🙂
@helimech8152
@helimech8152 Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@motskater
@motskater Жыл бұрын
VR helped me so much in helicopter flying
@helimech8152
@helimech8152 Жыл бұрын
Thats actually my next thing to see if it helps. Also means i dont need the wrap around screens.
@FlevopolderAviator
@FlevopolderAviator Жыл бұрын
Amazing build once again.
@helimech8152
@helimech8152 Жыл бұрын
Thank You!
@britishideas
@britishideas Жыл бұрын
This is such a professional well made, clear and easy to follow video. Love it!
@helimech8152
@helimech8152 Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! Humbled by the kind words!
@rjc0234
@rjc0234 Жыл бұрын
an incredible project, and even better instructions. Many people would half-do the instructions, or point to already assembled / unfinished parts!
@helimech8152
@helimech8152 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, The build part is done in the hope it stops a million emails coming my way asking how to do a certain part!
@ViktorJaneba
@ViktorJaneba Жыл бұрын
This is... brilliant. I went for hydraulic damper and a bit of counterweight, but this solution is genius.
@squatchusmc9133
@squatchusmc9133 Жыл бұрын
Just started taking serious interest in these, glad I came across this video.
@helimech8152
@helimech8152 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I'd taken a lot of time and effort to get to this stage.
@luuk341
@luuk341 Жыл бұрын
That is AMAZING!
@helimech8152
@helimech8152 Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@jirisykora8035
@jirisykora8035 Жыл бұрын
Seen it in action, works awesme!
@helimech8152
@helimech8152 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Jiri! Great to hear from you!
@stephenroberts403
@stephenroberts403 Жыл бұрын
Been looking forward to this build video. As usual, you didn't disappoint.
@helimech8152
@helimech8152 Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! and thank you!
@simonbaxter8001
@simonbaxter8001 Жыл бұрын
Another great project Karl. Looking forward to the next in series.
@helimech8152
@helimech8152 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, already working on the next video. A lot to print!
@JakeItsTheCops
@JakeItsTheCops Жыл бұрын
Wow that is amazing!
@helimech8152
@helimech8152 Жыл бұрын
Thank You!
@johnmcgloughlin9403
@johnmcgloughlin9403 Жыл бұрын
A very happy New Year Karl. I've been looking forward to these particular build videos. Simply amazing!! I'll definitely be giving this a go!
@helimech8152
@helimech8152 Жыл бұрын
Hi Jogn, Thank you and i hope you do give it a go. Its a great project and i dont think there are many like this out there (Yet!)
@Timboslicce
@Timboslicce Жыл бұрын
you're the man another awesome build for the books
@helimech8152
@helimech8152 Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@JohnScherer
@JohnScherer Жыл бұрын
Fantastic build. I’ll be building this for sure, and the cyclic when you get that done!
@helimech8152
@helimech8152 Жыл бұрын
Hello, Cyclic next, already carrying out a few addons after so many suggestions from this video!
@hydrolisk1792
@hydrolisk1792 Жыл бұрын
What an amazing bit of kit you made here!! Well done Mate!!
@helimech8152
@helimech8152 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! and Cheers!
@B747-4OO
@B747-4OO Жыл бұрын
Hi Karl! Nice to see you back in the new year. Excellent design and very comprehensive video! 👍 Looking forward to second episode!!
@helimech8152
@helimech8152 Жыл бұрын
Hello! I should start that ASAP, parts printed just awaiting for some steppers to arrive. Thank you for the knid comments as always!
@xen5780
@xen5780 Жыл бұрын
100 % agree with Dru Bradley, please keep up the good work and i look forward to more content from you especially on Helos 😉
@marvinbrooks2601
@marvinbrooks2601 Жыл бұрын
Once again. You have set the tone for flight sim world
@helimech8152
@helimech8152 Жыл бұрын
Humbled, thank you
@arthurwilliams3479
@arthurwilliams3479 Жыл бұрын
I suggest using inexpensive pipe cleaner brushes inside the springs to silence them, as well as putting heatshrink on the ends.
@92jurassic
@92jurassic Жыл бұрын
Two years ago I flew S58's for a summer drying cherries. It was impressive how much of a difference a correlator makes, and ultimately I didn't notice a whole lot of difference flying without a governor. It's inspiring watching your videos and seeing how far one can go with a simpit. Eventually I would like to build one of your collective and cyclic's. Keep up the amazing work.
@HomecockpitsAndMore
@HomecockpitsAndMore Жыл бұрын
I worked as a cherry picker in New Zealand for one season and was surpised they use helicopters to dry the cherries after a rainfall, no wonder cherries are so expensive! Haha must have been a cool job flying over the orchard for some time!
@helimech8152
@helimech8152 Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@drubradley8821
@drubradley8821 Жыл бұрын
WOW.... As an engineer of 40 years, it really takes allot to catch my attention, let alone, hold my attention. I have spent almost all of my life time cramming info into my dinky bean brain. Now, with that said, I am highly and exceptionally impressed with this. The video editing is top notch on the audio and video. You explained what you were doing at an elementary level, that allot of high IQ people fail to be able to do and you did that wonderfully. You didn't take for granted that somebody "just already knows what you know as second nature". I would like to thank you for the amount of time that you set aside to make this happen as that I can only assume, was well over 200 hours, if not more than that over the years of honing the R&D aspect of this design. I was thoroughly entertained. I even learned a few things from your video here today. Thank you. This was an easy click to subscribe to your channel and I look forwards to the next videos of this simulator build. I did I quick skim-through of your older video titles, just to see what you have showcased already, I think I will enjoy watching those as well. Well done.
@helimech8152
@helimech8152 Жыл бұрын
Hello and once again I find my self humbled by the words of others. Thank you for taking the time to comment!
@alejandrolopezposada3990
@alejandrolopezposada3990 Ай бұрын
amazing
@FlyingFighter
@FlyingFighter Жыл бұрын
Ok you just managed to design the most advanced and realistic helicopter controllers available in the entire world, that's truely amazing.. As an helicopter engineer too and trying myself to design a collective I've been confronted to the force trim issue and you just popped in my recommandation with the solution i'm amazed and jealous not being able to find a proper way by myself ! Aesome work !
@helimech8152
@helimech8152 Жыл бұрын
Hello fellow engineer! Thank you for the very kind words and feeling very humbled. I remember waking up one day and thinking, why not use a stepper as the mag brake? 24 hours later, the basic principal was proven and this was the end result.
@FlyingFighter
@FlyingFighter Жыл бұрын
@@helimech8152 I'm glad you woke up with this idea! Can't wait to know more about your cyclic!
@dustingilliam5881
@dustingilliam5881 Жыл бұрын
I'm halfway through building the cyclic right now. Can't wait to start the collective right after!
@helimech8152
@helimech8152 Жыл бұрын
Good luck! Let me know how you get on, and what you think when your flying with them. Kind regards, Karl
@richardcranium9887
@richardcranium9887 6 ай бұрын
Well done with the flying! I follow your channel because I'm an engineer who migrated to the cockpit of the 737 too many years ago, but I love to tinker. I have also tried flying rotary several times and as my instructor friend once said its like trying to "shave and w#nk at the same time" its dangerous! Excellent channel!
@matka5130
@matka5130 Жыл бұрын
Amazing work, your page is fantastic
@helimech8152
@helimech8152 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@leo_bysse4004
@leo_bysse4004 Жыл бұрын
Amazing👏
@helimech8152
@helimech8152 Жыл бұрын
Thanks 😄
@Flying_Jorts
@Flying_Jorts Жыл бұрын
Great job! Your engineering skills are superb. I just put together a pretty basic instrument panel for X-plane to mimic the Avidyne Entegra avionics sweet for instrument currency at my house. The simming community is wild.
@helimech8152
@helimech8152 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind words, The sim world is pretty cool, you meet a lot of very talented people. Im also hoping to show, if you dont mind doing DIY builds, you can produce something pretty epic.
@indyjons321
@indyjons321 Жыл бұрын
Yep…. I need this in my life. Aviation + DIY engineering.
@helimech8152
@helimech8152 Жыл бұрын
Hello, Its a really simple build and I think it works really well. Just working on an apache grip for it right now.
@cptairwolf
@cptairwolf Жыл бұрын
This has to be one of the most impressive 3d builds I've ever seen. I'll be purchasing these plans soon!!
@helimech8152
@helimech8152 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Humbled by your words.
@bruhmanflight
@bruhmanflight Жыл бұрын
HES BACK, welcome back KARL!!!!!!!
@helimech8152
@helimech8152 Жыл бұрын
Hopefully starting a new year full on!
@ChipMIK
@ChipMIK Жыл бұрын
I work on a full motion helo-sim of a medium size "transport-ish" helicopter. Fantastic job you have done for a home-sim 👌💪
@helimech8152
@helimech8152 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! It took a lot of prototyping to get this far, but i think the result has been more than worth it.
@HeathRho
@HeathRho 5 ай бұрын
I am not going to lie, I bought this the moment I first saw this video. I was mesmorized! Several hundred dollars later and a few months later, it is almost finished! I didn't anticipate just how much it would cost to order the large variety of nuts and bolts, mis-identified switches and buttons (finding equivelants on US amazon/ebay) among many other twists and turns. You made this look so easy and here, after all that, I'm almost there! I can't wait to get the set all plugged in and calibrated! just waiting on the stepper drivers and we're off!
@HeathRho
@HeathRho 5 ай бұрын
I ran into a few small quirky issues. the ones primarily giving me problems are the springs. I just can't seem to find springs to match the ones you've used and either mine are too strong or soft for the application. The worst offender has been the cyclic spring attached to the frame. I've also printed the collective grip a couple of times and the tolerances for the heatset inserts just are too large and I haven't found a good work-around that doesn't involve modifying the stls. I love the design though and all I have left for the set is wiring everything up.
@jplorge
@jplorge Жыл бұрын
Happy new year, happiness & health i'm just amazed for the work done, super impressive... 🙂
@helimech8152
@helimech8152 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind words! Happy new year in return. Kind regards, karl
@ingmarm8858
@ingmarm8858 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant!
@helimech8152
@helimech8152 Жыл бұрын
Thank You!
@StraitD2
@StraitD2 11 ай бұрын
You earned my like and subscribe! Amazing!
@kraaijer
@kraaijer Жыл бұрын
Excellent video, very colorful too :-)
@helimech8152
@helimech8152 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, after filming the cyclic prototype in black, it was so hard to make out the different parts. Multi colours has solved that issue and gets rid of all the coloured filament i never use!
@pascalperrin-bonnet7119
@pascalperrin-bonnet7119 Жыл бұрын
Travaille magnifique et quel bonne idée de créé cette manette pour hélicoptère trop rare malheureusement dans le commerce. Vivement la suite j'ai hâte.
@helimech8152
@helimech8152 Жыл бұрын
Merci, je travaille sur la vidéo cyclique en ce moment !
@pilotmike797
@pilotmike797 Жыл бұрын
My late father worked the the Boeing Vertol sim lab he would love to have this for the Helicopter museum where he volunteered. Great work
@helimech8152
@helimech8152 Жыл бұрын
Hi Mike, Thank you and sorry for your loss. Now i have to get the cyclic build done to go with it!
@pilotmike797
@pilotmike797 Жыл бұрын
@@helimech8152 Thank you 🙏🏼
@lars-sorensen
@lars-sorensen Жыл бұрын
Wow - I am not really interested in aviation sims, but I just stumbled on this video and now I really want to build one of these!!
@helimech8152
@helimech8152 Жыл бұрын
Go for it, I had the first build shown back to me yesterday and was so impressed with their effort. I think it would be worth it! Kind regards karl
@billyjoe3309
@billyjoe3309 4 ай бұрын
This guys is cool, I really think so!
@helimech8152
@helimech8152 2 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@_PSantos
@_PSantos Жыл бұрын
Hi.... looking good.
@helimech8152
@helimech8152 Жыл бұрын
Hello, and Thank you! Straight in with the first comment!
@_PSantos
@_PSantos Жыл бұрын
@@helimech8152 just wish you´re closer to us.... Azores.
@johnnicol5009
@johnnicol5009 Жыл бұрын
Awesome!!!! I want!
@helimech8152
@helimech8152 Жыл бұрын
Hi John, I hope you have a 3d printer or know someone who has!
@VR_Aviator
@VR_Aviator Жыл бұрын
Incredible design. I'm thinking of building a collective that uses window counter balances.
@helimech8152
@helimech8152 Жыл бұрын
Hello Conrad, Id like to see that! let me know how it goes!
@Rvcoops
@Rvcoops Жыл бұрын
Awesome design and work on this bit of gear. Am really impressed and this has widened my eyes on the possibilities for using 3D printing. Would like to incorporate something like this on my Learjet sim. Thanks for your work. Subscribed.😎
@helimech8152
@helimech8152 Жыл бұрын
Hello and thank you for the kind words, I hope it has given a few ideas to help with your sim! Good Luck!
@roadrebell2632
@roadrebell2632 Жыл бұрын
Hey Karl, although I dont have any expierience in programming or 3d printing, I am glad i found your videos. Until my son was born 2 years ago, I loved to fly both Gazelle and Huey in DCS with a VR Headset. I am really looking forward to seeing your rudder plans. In a couple of years I might have a bit more time to spent. Hopefully I will then find a reasonably priced 3d-printing service near me ;-) greetings from Germany
@TheWoodWorkingPilot
@TheWoodWorkingPilot Жыл бұрын
WOW!!
@helimech8152
@helimech8152 Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@DiscusRussell
@DiscusRussell 10 ай бұрын
British engineering at its best. When the rudder pedals are finished will you be getting one of the Heli pilots to give you their thoughts on this best sim heli controls outside of Fort Halsted (say no more) You know what I'm talking about Russell
@stef8455
@stef8455 Жыл бұрын
Nice video! 👍🏼 I actually worked with you a few years ago won’t say too much on here but good to see you’re well. Came across your channel by chance, look forward to seeing some more.
@helimech8152
@helimech8152 Жыл бұрын
Hello stef, you have me very much I intrigued. All my details are on the website. A big hello from me!
@stef8455
@stef8455 Жыл бұрын
@@helimech8152 just sent you an email 😁
@ivannightly1919
@ivannightly1919 3 ай бұрын
very nice i want one
@helimech8152
@helimech8152 3 ай бұрын
Awesome!
@tseckwr3783
@tseckwr3783 Жыл бұрын
Good try in that flying. Helis are unforgiving. Thanks for doing the build vids
@helimech8152
@helimech8152 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the support and kind words!
@blacknass1943
@blacknass1943 Жыл бұрын
👏👏
@helimech8152
@helimech8152 Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@DaveWrightKB9MNM
@DaveWrightKB9MNM Жыл бұрын
Karl, I was just thinking about how to make one of these. Amazing work! Only thing is, I gave up 3D printing because I couldn’t get my printer to print properly. Looking forward to seeing the other 2 videos!
@helimech8152
@helimech8152 Жыл бұрын
I also have 1 printer that drives me mad, its so unrealible compared to the others. Cyclic vid next once i finish printing more parts.
@DaveWrightKB9MNM
@DaveWrightKB9MNM Жыл бұрын
Just picked up a Creality 3 V2 that has upgraded firmware today. I’m getting all sorts of ideas!!!!
@fadedflage
@fadedflage Жыл бұрын
6 hrs of practice and you can hover, take off, and land just fine using the sim
@helimech8152
@helimech8152 Жыл бұрын
Once we complete the new wiring, i hope to do this exactly!
@MeppyMan
@MeppyMan Жыл бұрын
Just started watching this and heard you mention putting in some right pedal… that’s when I realised the Cabri is a French helicopter!
@helimech8152
@helimech8152 Жыл бұрын
I have been used to the bell which has a rotor head that rotates the other way to most european aircraft.
@MeppyMan
@MeppyMan Жыл бұрын
@@helimech8152 I learned to fly in a Huges 300, have flown 500s, Jet Rangers, Sikorsky, Robinson (yuck.. once and never again), but never the Squirrel unfortunately. I figured in real life it would come naturally as you lift off, to correct the way it needs it... but I would imagine it would take some getting used to at first.
@TwelveZVal
@TwelveZVal Жыл бұрын
you should build a a320 cockpit
@sikupnfed
@sikupnfed 8 ай бұрын
I love this and your Cyclic builds. Will you consider kitting all required items in the future? I would love a kit as I don't have the desire to hunt parts down.
@helimech8152
@helimech8152 8 ай бұрын
Good suggestion, but I don't think I have the funds to go and create part kits right now. Buying the hall sensors alone would run into thousands.
@hobbysim9071
@hobbysim9071 Жыл бұрын
nice work. Please something for the ka-50 dcs please 🙏
@helimech8152
@helimech8152 Жыл бұрын
One day perhaps, my my build queue for DCS has become huge recently lol
@kodywillnauer9422
@kodywillnauer9422 Жыл бұрын
If I had like .001% of your talent I’d be a happy guy. Bravo for your designs and ingenuity. One question, when you’re printing in different colors, is it by material, function of the print, or just to see contrast between mating parts?
@helimech8152
@helimech8152 Жыл бұрын
Hello, Thank you for the kind words. 7 years ago I had no idea what CAD and fusion was, Over that time, the learning curve has been huge, but also very enjoyable and satisfying. Its amazing what you can create at home now. The purpose of te different colours is purely for camera purposes. The last video had all grey black parts, and you cannot see the diffrent parts on camera. Hence i get to use all the aweful colours i have that i never use lol.
@Toughbeard
@Toughbeard Жыл бұрын
One of these days we will get a notification from you "Hello Guys! Here is my A380, I 3d Printed and I am starting my own airline!"
@helimech8152
@helimech8152 Жыл бұрын
Haha, an A380 would be cool!
@ripplerable
@ripplerable Жыл бұрын
Amazing work! Thanks very much, I've bought your files for the collective and cyclic already! Quick question for you, what were the spring dimensions you used in the end for the load and balance springs? I've got an assorted spring box but the included wire diameters look a little too thin for the job.
@user-em7lp1sb4k
@user-em7lp1sb4k Жыл бұрын
Fantastic build sir, by any chance do you do any Fusion 360 tutorials? Your ability to draw these parts on 360 must be at another level.
@helimech8152
@helimech8152 Жыл бұрын
Hello! I have done a few tutorials for people but there are some masters out there which are must better than me to watch. Thank you for the kind words
@theguru18
@theguru18 8 ай бұрын
very cool, any plans to do the TADS system and the front cockpit? for us gunners
@helimech8152
@helimech8152 7 ай бұрын
Defo, I just haven't had the time to revisit anything yet
@MeppyMan
@MeppyMan Жыл бұрын
I wan to set up an H145 cockpit. Just been talking to my neighbour about printing your controls and how much that will cost, etc. He has both types of printer so that's good. I Will have to design my own handle and modify your cyclic. Thought it was funny you have a 212 cyclic and an 139 collective grip! :)
@helimech8152
@helimech8152 Жыл бұрын
Hi Mark, The cyclic was because i worked on the 212. The AW139 collective was because i had access to it and pilots to test it. If i had stayed in Brunei longer, i would have done the 139 cyclic too.
@bcnukenny
@bcnukenny Жыл бұрын
At the Start of the Video Your flying with the old Flight model from FlightSim X, The tell tale sign of the flying straight but pointing to the right and rolling left. Go to Settings and select the legacy Flight model and apply and save, exit the game, then change back to the Modern Flight Model and restart the game. This was a Bug on some installs.
@helimech8152
@helimech8152 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the advice!
@randycarter2001
@randycarter2001 Жыл бұрын
I would have put a DB25 connector on the base assembly. This is for easy servicing and movement. Placing another DB25 connector at the location of the electronics will allow you to get pre-made extender cables. This will work for all sensor, switch and indicator signals. Of course motor power should be run separately.
@helimech8152
@helimech8152 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Randy, thats an awesome addition to the design and love the idea!
@vk3jda
@vk3jda Жыл бұрын
I would 2nd that there looks to be room and will make cleaning and servicing the unit so much quicker.
@MeppyMan
@MeppyMan Жыл бұрын
Better yet would be some round aviation style connectors. I’d be super tempted to make it easy to swap out different handles for different helicopters. You can get these pretty cheap from Aliexpress. Don’t need to be genuine aircraft or milspec :) I’d have one connector at the top for the throttle and handle, and one at the bottom for the collective arm.
@randycarter2001
@randycarter2001 Жыл бұрын
@@MeppyMan Yes those are more aviation like but they're expensive. A solder cup DB25 can be had for just a couple of dollars. Round aluminum aviation ones are like 25 dollars minimum plus pins and tooling.
@MeppyMan
@MeppyMan Жыл бұрын
@@randycarter2001 you can get plugs and sockets off Alibaba for less than a few dollars. They don't have to be MIL spec or with a serial. Or even probably can find some genuine aviation ones second hand for cheap? I thought about how many dual controls I have seen knocking about in hangars over the years that were not in use for various reasons (crash damage, etc).
@technicaltap3032
@technicaltap3032 7 ай бұрын
War crime in the front, Fischer Price My first collective in the back.
@sampaano6329
@sampaano6329 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing such an awesome design. I am going to purchase your stl for this, and wanted to know what 3D print bed size is required? Some of those parts look rather large for my Anycubic Viper print bed.
@flashmetalstorm551
@flashmetalstorm551 Жыл бұрын
Looks good are you going to mock up a whole cockpit
@helimech8152
@helimech8152 Жыл бұрын
I would love too, but i has so many different projects on the go right now!
@buzzlite3
@buzzlite3 Жыл бұрын
Great work. Which Hall effect pot is that? Is it a 360 rotation? or limited rotation? 5V DC I'm guessing.
@helimech8152
@helimech8152 Жыл бұрын
Hello and thank you. Its the 5v, 360 rotation hall sensor on both amazon and eBay.
@JoeSmith-zv4ic
@JoeSmith-zv4ic Ай бұрын
Half way though printing, Thankyou for this! I have a question though.. Would it be possible to program the steppers to follow auto pilot in the H145?
@jasonausman
@jasonausman Жыл бұрын
First off, awesome engineering, build, and video! I've already printed the collective and throttle. I did resin for the grip and a few small parts too. I'm having trouble with the counterbalance springs. Do you know what size you actually used? I've tried all the springs in the Amazon assorted spring kit. They are either too weak and don't do anything, or too strong and make the collective float at the top but never return to it's resting position. I can't get it just right where it returns to its lowest position but just helps it stay up when raised. At this point I'm buying individual random springs on Amazon until I get it right.
@helimech8152
@helimech8152 Жыл бұрын
Hi Jason, you will have to remind me about this. Much better to send a message in the website chat window so it logs and i dont forget!
@eatthisvr6
@eatthisvr6 Жыл бұрын
using an 18v impact driver to screw into pla is very me lol
@helimech8152
@helimech8152 Жыл бұрын
I have leraned to be gentle with said hammer! It does very easily make things go worng! lol
@user-cc4pj4qc7h
@user-cc4pj4qc7h 5 ай бұрын
Wouldn't it be a better solution to put adjustable hydro dampers instead of the counterbalance springs?
@treasend4126
@treasend4126 2 ай бұрын
this is amazing, i was wondering dose this have an advantage over ffb steering limits like you have in a ffb steering wheel other then seemingly less noise?
@helimech8152
@helimech8152 2 ай бұрын
This is based on true helicopter controls. There is no dynamic force feedback in Heli controls. Helipilots don't wont a workout when they fly. Its grab the cyclic by the thumb and forefinger and make the aircraft work for you.
@treasend4126
@treasend4126 Ай бұрын
@@helimech8152 i see i thought my setup was too loose but maybe not
@SurfFlights
@SurfFlights Жыл бұрын
There are two awesome products that you had create! Got the cyclic product from your website already as a christmas gift. Try the best helicopter for MSFS 2020 the H145 from Hype Performance Group. (definitely worth the price) I am looking forward to see to upcoming Helicopter content! I hope that you create some Helionix cockpit parts for the AgustaWestland or the H145 Helicopter. That will help me to create my home cockpit.
@helimech8152
@helimech8152 Жыл бұрын
Hello, I actually started with the 145, and we used that at the flight sim expo. Defo one of my favourites!
@MeppyMan
@MeppyMan Жыл бұрын
@@helimech8152 +1 for the H145. I flew Hughes helicopters that had no hydraulics, but the 145 is my dream sim setup for SIM. This is likely going to to be my first 3D printer project!
@SurfFlights
@SurfFlights Жыл бұрын
What 3d printer bed size I will need for the parts?
@clarkeeeee
@clarkeeeee Жыл бұрын
"And of course, you wouldn't print these in multiple colors." "Haaahaha, yes yess" - Nervously laughing in my rainbow-skinned virtual Huey, the Huenicorn
@helimech8152
@helimech8152 Жыл бұрын
Chuckle!
@cztheday1073
@cztheday1073 Жыл бұрын
Terrific video! It looks like the same approach(especially from the cyclic video) could be used to make/modify a yoke that would respond more realistically to trim input for example. Have you considered such a project? Do you know if MSFS20 or XP11/12 can provide the output that could be used to set the appropriate hands-off yoke position based on elevator trim tab and airspeed conditions? What about simulating the feeling in the yoke from a loss of control surface authority at low speeds?
@helimech8152
@helimech8152 Жыл бұрын
Hello, i have already created a yoke system that has a parallel actuator which exertsmore pressure on the controls as the airspeed changes. its something i will revisit later this year!
@CuzBuzzify
@CuzBuzzify Жыл бұрын
Wish i had a big enought printer to make this project. was currently in the process of making my own collective
@helimech8152
@helimech8152 Жыл бұрын
I did think about this, but the forces invovled are pretty huge. So i went with larger single peice designs. Sorry!
@thomasneal4775
@thomasneal4775 Ай бұрын
AMAZING design job, assembly and presentation. I wish there was a detailed description of the purpose of the "Force Feel" system. Presumably, it produces the aerodynamic forces present in a helicopter in flight; but it isn't clear to me how these forces effect movement of the Collective . Also, there's a comment toward the end of the video that due to the high forces involved 'most pilots release the "Force Feel" whenever they are moving the Collective. So the "Force Feel" system keeps the Collective from moving away from its present set position if released? *If* I understand correctly, in a real helo; the Collective is free-moving with an adjustable friction control to maintain its present position without applying constant pressure, and these high forces don't exist during Collective movement?
@PilotUFO
@PilotUFO Жыл бұрын
Hi Karl, great video, tell me how you tied the wires? at 51:00
@helimech8152
@helimech8152 Жыл бұрын
Helo, Thats not really an easy thing to explain, but i think its a sheet knot followed by a grannie knot. I would google avaition loom lacing. Theres probably loads of vids on how to lace a cable loom. Kind regards, Karl
@No1sonuk
@No1sonuk 6 ай бұрын
With the size and complexity of that head box, I'd be tempted to put a Leo Bodnar board in there and run just the USB out. Also, why didn't you feed the throttle cables into the tube as well?
@senilegamers6197
@senilegamers6197 Жыл бұрын
This looks great. Just a shame the files require a larger print bed of 300x300mm to build it.
@helimech8152
@helimech8152 Жыл бұрын
Hello, I try hard to make make designs open to all, but sometimes a more bigger build bed makes the impossible possible! I honestly say this as I do not think any one has done this yet, and trying to get so much to happen in a relatively small space has already been a huge mission! kind regards Karl.
@MazeGP.
@MazeGP. 4 ай бұрын
What is the BOM cost if I want to do it myself?
@Jkauppa
@Jkauppa Жыл бұрын
think that arm as 6dof hand tracker for 3d/vr controller (or two)
@Jkauppa
@Jkauppa Жыл бұрын
why do you need to make stuff hard to use, thats a nonsense goal
@Jkauppa
@Jkauppa Жыл бұрын
hurry to market causes hard to use trash
@Jkauppa
@Jkauppa Жыл бұрын
try flying a quad copter car instead, fully flight controller autopiloted/balanced
@helimech8152
@helimech8152 Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@dukenoookem
@dukenoookem Жыл бұрын
Maaaaaaaaaaaate! I have wanted to build a proper collective for over five years, then main reason for not doing anything about it yet was because I couldn't resolve how to do the twist throttle; now I have no excuses. I have been going through the rest of your clips, about one of the only worth while resources I have come across. Kudos to you bloke, keep it up. Just one question, are you using Mobiflight for all of you interfacing? no custom arduino? I am keen to make a gaming sim pit but I want it to do my space-sims as well, so I am just curious if you use anything else... Keep it up bloke and Cheers!
@helimech8152
@helimech8152 Жыл бұрын
Hi Dave, Thank you for the kind words. It also made me laugh. I do just use mobiflight, as it interfaces with my stuff either with or without connection to a sim. Its simple and theres no need for me to reinvent the wheel. Kind Regards, Karl
@nickroyle4805
@nickroyle4805 Жыл бұрын
I'm modifying an old Microsoft Sidewinder force feedback stick at the moment. Have you tried using one as a cyclic?
@helimech8152
@helimech8152 Жыл бұрын
Hello, and no I have not tried the side winder option. I may be missing out. But I wanted the heli controls to feel like the real thing so decided to go my own way. i'm not sure that the side winder can do that. This was just my take on producing something a real pilot would say, yep that's how it should feel. And even then, that's the problem with creating a is gel unit for multiple aircraft, they all feel different and have different forces involved. However, I can say this is how the basic principle works. Thank you for taking the time to comment, kind regards karl
@nickroyle4805
@nickroyle4805 Жыл бұрын
@@helimech8152 it's a brilliant solution you've put together. I'm sure it is far superior to the sidewinder option but have a look at sidewinder extension videos. I want to put an extension between the base and a new stick, much like the one you have here but not quite as long.
@tntgamerdotnl
@tntgamerdotnl Жыл бұрын
Hi Karl, what an amazing project! I am wondering if you can give a rough estimate on how much PLA it takes to build both the cyclic and collective? Im new to 3d printing and im trying to see what jt would all together cost to make it. Fantastic channel i am really enjoying all the project. Thanks for sharing! Have a great day 😊
@helimech8152
@helimech8152 Жыл бұрын
Hi, I have no idea, but I would guess at less than a roll for each unit. It's honestly not something I keep track of, especially as just feed old rolls into the printer
@ttpechon2535
@ttpechon2535 Жыл бұрын
How did you find the gear ratio between the hall effect sensor and the stick?
@helimech8152
@helimech8152 Жыл бұрын
I caluclated the angles in fusion, Then divided them to find the gear ratio
@eatthisvr6
@eatthisvr6 Жыл бұрын
what pov hat switches do you use?
@helimech8152
@helimech8152 Жыл бұрын
Oh good question and it would probably be better to visit the build guide on the website for the parts reference. I have now purchased 5 way tactile hat switches for the apache, but have not tried them out yet!
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