You are Proud about what ? , you cant read the myceanian language like you cant read the biggest part of the hellenic language , greeks found a 3500 years old tombstone in the lemnos island and now its located in the museum of athens and they say that its a unknown language ahahhahahaha what if i say that all the albanians that visit the tombstone they can read it ? The PELASGIAN ETRUSCAN ILLYRIAN language its the oldest in europe not the greek !!! 🇦🇱👐🏼🇦🇱

@@arteniskaja4576 😂😂😂😂😂😂Im laughing😂 Do u really believe that albanians speak a pelasgian language?😂 And yes we can read myceanian my dear. Modern greek has so many similarities with myceanian bc ITS THE SAME LANGUAGE. And I dont care about your beliefs but I WILL ALWAYS BE PROUD FOR MY COUNTRY EITHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT😊

@@mariag631 also modern greece exist thanks the albanians ( the ARVANITAS ) that fought ottomans and created the greek independent state !! and this heros was MARKO BOÇARI , TEODOR KOLLOKOTRONI, ALI PASH TEPELENA wich is also the FIRST KING OF THE MODERN EGYPTIAN CIVILIZZATION BEFORE HE WAS PRINCE OF EPIRUS!!!! and then others like him 🤫🇦🇱👐🏼🇦🇱🤫

@@arteniskaja4576 I'm so sorry if this is what you taught in Albania, i'm so sorry to know your country feed your brain with 💩, I always respected Albania but I'm sorry for what they are doing to you there.

maria g we do like Greece but the thing is if you see an Albanian man or a girl,you can recognize it miles away and not one or two but all Albanian, even arvanitas in Greece have same display, go in south Italy where lives arberesh it’s same thing , go In turkey who lives millions of Albanians ,you can tell where their origin is , and when you see a Greek you can’t tell if he or she is Greek , Egyptian, bulgar or Turk haha , and onther thing who ever made this video didn’t say anything about Greece independence,and who liberated the Greek “land” 🇦🇱 🇦🇱 Peace ✌️ anyway 🇦🇱 🇬🇷

دختر تو خیلی خوشگلی فک کنم تو هم مثل من یونانیا و تاریخشونو دوسداری یه یونانیشو تور کن خوشتیپنا😉

Are Persian women really this beautiful?

MSR 2703 Thanke you😊

Moji Cyrus ❤❤❤

@Athenian Heretic 339 ...και τώρα βλέπουμε έναν υπερήφανο γυπαετό να επιτίθεται στο υποψήφιο θήραμα του! Σωραιος!

@Good Morning that era, the rest of Europeans were lived in caves, so they weren't ready for it... So you're right!

Good Morning wtf no

@Good Morning the western was built by greek values of civilization.

My Assyrian friend... As a man that love history need to say that Assyria is older country than Greece. Moreover, Assyrian empire was the first empire the world known. Love to greek and and assyrian people.

@Good Morning ohh you are right. Greeks only give to europe democracy, science, mathematics, physic, western language, grammar, sports and olympic games, theater and drama, engineering, philosophy. Forgot something?

Steven Mans Yes and some parts of Calabria until 16th century

Arch Stanton What do you mean? 7 villages is not the same as a majority of a region, which was the case for most of antiquity and middle ages in Southern Italy. This is what I'm talking about 👍😉

@Arch Stanton you mean greco

Yes because after that time mainland Greece- Byzantium had too many problems and could not help the greek-speaking people in Magna Grecia

🤣🤣🤣...they are totaly Arberesh-Albanians!!

did bulgarins come from you guys

Εισαι ρωσσοποντιος?

@@chris9473 yes they Did

Respect from Greece 🇬🇷❤🇷🇺❤🇨🇾

@@superpangamer Δεν υπάρχουν ρωσοποντιοι

Of what song? Lmao

@@sleekismboyz605 4:32????

@@allstarlord9110 Mb bro i didn't see it. That's the worst greek pronounciation i've ever heard in my life.

@@sleekismboyz605 I have heard worse

whats the name of your village?

@@MrAbagaz doesnt exist

India has the longest civilization that never changed its religion,and that only puts them on top of human heritage. Thank you

india brought eastern world NOTHING (maybe a little bit dirt). the thing called ''civilization'' built by GREEKS. before the presocratic nature philosophers there was no civilization ok? dont you never ever take as an example yourselves!

Underated comment

Ευχαριστούμε μας έδωσες δυναμη.

All made up by the Germans in the 1800s.

@@Marubi2 We are a Roman continuation of Ancient Greece. Whether we are called Romoi, Byzantines or Greeks - it makes no difference. We are free and you are jealous.

doctor flame The Keizer did a good job at creating Greek state, Greek language and taking the ottoman territory away from Russian influence in the 1880’s but they made up so much shit, that it has left the Greeks complete disillusioned.

@@Marubi2 I guess if you really believe that the Germans somehow introduced the Greek language into the Ottoman empire you're too fargone for rational debate. Someone must have created a slavic language and identity also...

doctor flame No, the Germans created Greek language (Koine), AFTER fall of the Ottoman Empire cause you until 1821 no one spoke today’s Greek in Greece. Germans also destroyed Ottoman architecture and rebuilt the cities etc. and made people believe that somehow they are the descendants of a mix of people that lived in the area 3000 years ago.

Yes, very few and Muslims.

@GD Chris i did...

@@nazmabay7114 only 23% of your turks have mongolic dna

@@nazmabay7114 most of them are in marmaris and ankara

@@nazmabay7114 so you share more dna with Greeks and not with turkic tribes or the orhguz turks

Not Pakistani land this is indian land ok and I am a Greek .😂😂😂

Respect to you, mate, please ignore the above person for he is an idiot

@@cyrclack5616 You are the idiot. Not him. Pakistan is a plastic fabricated state.

Name Alexander is not real name of this hero - real name is ISKAN DAR - that name gave to him his mother - Bulgarian Olympia - grand daughter of Achileus(Ahil) from Troy war.... Alexander was given to him, when he defeated small Greeks towns... Culture of Alexander is not Greek - he is Bulgarian - name Macedonia have meaning only in Bulgarian language. Home town of Alexander and his father have Bulgarian name - that means WHITE TOWN, the teacher of Alexander(ISKAN DAR) was Aristotelos - that is Bulgarian name.... Don't listen to FAKE Greece history!!!

@@JOYBG his name is ΑΛΈΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ

Cypriots are Cypriot, not greek.

​@@ethem8284Well, I'm from Cyprus and I'm an Hellen. Που είναι το πρόβλημα;

Charlie Korovilas - Yes, and I would particularly like to thank the Turks and their German advisers: no mention of the Greek Genocide would have been possible without you...

They didn't mention the Bulgarian genocide by the Greeks

Александър Копоев - Never happened.

@Αφροδίτη Σοφοκλέου You know forcefully kicking Bulgarians out of their homes forcing them to go to greek school that stuff

@@Anonymous-qx1vd that isn't a genocide.. we are talking about literally killing children,women,men

all they do is take macedonia one aha same go with the bulgars

@@chris9473 you forgot papanikolaou test pap nikos kazantzakis greatest writer gkiolvas physician karatheodoris helper of einstein and teacher

@@chris9473 pericles, pittakus of lesvos

@Sasuke Uchiha dude how i dance pyrhicc the ancient greek dance

@Sasuke Uchiha and read ancient Greek books and i believe in 12 gods

lol greek source wiki pedia

@@chris9473 Wikipedia is not the best source I agree but if you read Britannica it is even more specific about the Greek impact.

@@chris9473 dude everybody and theur grandmother knows the greek impact of western civilization, in fact western civilization is greek civilization.

but the cycladic and the minoans werent greek, greeks are indo european and the other two arent

Love from Greece to Albania💪🇦🇱🇬🇷I'm Greek but my best friend is from Albania and he is so loyal and energetic.I think all the Albanians have that positive energy inside them 💪

@@noboxingnolifemaik7223 thanks🇦🇱❤🇬🇷

Shut uo skenderbegs bazzz

@@NoA-xq8ko *Who gives a fuck???* We're related to italian, greeks, montenegrins, etc. at some point and to different degrees. We ain't aliens, but human beings. Of course we're related with neighbors, DUHH! 😒

No A My friend who is Albanian took a DNA test and all suggested people he might be related to were Greek. So yes Greeks are of the same stock as Albanians. Also, it turns out Grace took a large chunk of Albanian speaking territory, after the fall of the Ottoman empire in 1913 and with a huge number of the Albanian population.

Greek is the technikal christian religion language against the Ottoman-Arabian-Mongolian languages. The ancient their language was Pelasgian-Yllirian-Albanian!!

@@guritarasi8732 Albanian ? Are you serious in which alfavete ? You haven't no element for this and North Epirus are always greek

Koine Greek was the lingua franca not Attic.

@Yoel Armas Macías Yes and he said "English of its time" meaning the lingua franca. The Greek language became the lingua franca in the Hellenistic era and it was not the Attic dialect but the Koine Greek(which was the continuation of the Attic dialect).

@@megistanas you are right, it was Koine Greek that became widespread, not Attic. Many patricians of Rome knew and spoke Koine Greek and it became a Lingua Franca in the Eastern part. Attic was for the very educated and wealthy Greeks and even Romans and later on, after the Renaissance in the rest of Europe too (probably less than 1% of the population though). So it is fair to say while today, attic is thought more, in the past like today it was a language of few learners, while Koine Greek was the English of its time.

Η Μακεδονία είναι Σλαβίκη. Αλεξαντράς; οχι. Ηταν Αλεξσλαβος απο τη Ρωσσά.

@@cfroi08 hey intellectual do the universe a favor and keep your Bullshits for yourself and your kind! ΡΕ ΔΙΑΝΟΟΥΜΕΝΕ ΚΑΝΕ ΣΤΟ ΣΥΜΠΑΝ ΤΗ ΧΑΡΗ ΚΑΙ ΚΡΑΤΑ ΤΙΣ ΜΑΛΑΚΙΕΣ ΣΟΥ ΓΙΑ ΤΟΝ ΕΑΥΤΟ ΣΟΥ ΚΑΙ ΓΙΑ ΤΟ ΣΥΝΑΦΙ ΣΟΥ!

@@Kawerus I'm joking file siga siga. Only brainwashed Bulgarian believe Alexander was a slav.

@@cfroi08 OK dude,we're cool! Take care!

@@cfroi08 Έμαθες ελληνικά για να γράψεις αυτή τη μαλακία?

@George Raptis Do you understand Portuguese without learning it? If no, then ''some'' is the right word! In every european language ca. 5% - 7% of words are orginally Greek. And in the Greek ca. 5%-7% of the words are Arabic/Turkish/Iranian (like Bas(z)ar=Παζάρι) etc.....

@@Demetris59 there are more than the ones that we understand, much more. But they are "hidden", they have changed completely over time or they derive from the ancient Greek and they are not used in modern Greek. That's why we can't understand them all. The percentage its much higher than 6%.

Octavio Simões “Some Greek words” is a great understatement, to be true we have thousands of words that come from Greek.

​@@Demetris59 Παζάρι is not an official word. Εμποροπανήγυρις is the word used formally. Yes, we do use turkish/arabic/italian/french words in everyday talk, but these words compose the informal greek language, the slangs. You won't read these words in any official paper, such as govermental or court papers. So, for that 5%-7% (I won't even debate that percentage, even though you're exaggerating) of the words being Arabic/Turkish/whatever, maybe 0.05% cannot be described using a formal Greek word. That 0.05% is mostly fruits and vegetables that were not native to Greece, like potato (πατάτα), tomato (τοματα), etc.

@@JohnJohn-bs1kv Well as I know, no-one is using this word '' Εμποροπανήγυρις'' even formally! ''εμποροπάζαρο'' yes....and there is this Word again....''Παζάρι''. Am not exaggerating at all....5-7% is just fair...μπουσουλάω, λουλούδι, κοκορέτσι, λάλα ....etc are albanian.....Αλάνι, Γλέντι, Καλούπι, Καπάκι, Μπαρούτι, etc...are turkish. Πογκρόμ, κολχόζ are russian. Ρούχο,σβάρνα, σανός, etc are slavic.....and none of these words have to do something with food.....

Unfortunately it was such with Modern Greek pronunciation, so it gives a false impression.

it is not the first, it's just the oldest to have been found written.

@@richardirvine1997 you are wrong

They don't tell so much information here it is limited but also robots are come from the atlantis, greeks are altantian hyperborians

Δεν πήρες τα φάρμακά σου σήμερα, ε;

We need to save

Ioannis Petsas don’t cry bitch , no body in the world believe your fake propaganda anymore!! The truth is completely different , you owe to Albania more then anyone . Albanians Arvanites like Markos Botsaris gave you independence, don’t forget . 90 of 100 heroes on Greek revolution on 1821 are Albanian Arvanites . Anyway Respect for the old Hellenic people who gave a lot to the world but they had nothing to do with you and your blood ! I guarantee if you will do a DNA test , have nothing to do with them . Love to true Greeks from Albania .

@@ilirilir193 The arvanites are Hellenes and their language is a Hellenic dialect and their land Arvanon was described in ancient texts as old as the first Hellenic colonization

The ls007 well , the Arvanites language is the same language that we Albanians speak now ! So make a connection. And like you said their land was colonised by Hellenic !!! Maybe you modern Greeks can lie some people but I wonder... Can you lie your self ?

It's really funny that you are publically proving yourself to be an uneducated moron! As a matter of fact, I myself have partly Arvanite heritage and I happen to know better than you about our dialect and culture, than what a miserable communist dictatorship has been propagating in Albania for 70 years. Because my ancestors have been living in the land of Hellas for more than 600 years and we have defended our land and freedom from every invader! Arvanites are an ancient indigenous people of Epirus who speak a hubrid language with hellenic and albanic influences. We have been using the Greek alphabet since the first Arvanite texts were published and our faith has always been - and will always remain- Christian and Orthodox. The modern Albanians (especially those called Gheg, and live in the north of Tirana) are basically the leftovers of the Turks and other Middle Eastern invaders, they are predominantly Muslim - with a Catholic minority- and are a shame for us all. Even the national hero of Albania (Georgios Kastriotis) was Christian and fought exactly against that what modern Albania has become: a Turkish colony and a pain in the ass for all democratic nations in the region. Please get educated (there is a lot of information out there in the free world), the school books of Hoxha and Stalin have no scientific validity in 2020. Ps. Come to any of the Arvanite villages in Greece, ESPECIALLY in the ones that you are claiming to be related to Albania -like the homeland of the great Marcos Mpotsaris in Souli- and try to call ONE of us Albanian. I dare you! If you leave the area with all of your teeth and are still standing on your feet, gimme a call 🤙

Ioannis Petsas Hahaha , I guarantee you that I’m much more educated then you ! And I’m an Albanian Christian orthodox! And I’m proud because I don’t betray my old roots like you do !!! Anyway I don’t want to go far , anyway Epirus was colonised by Old Greeks . So don’t belong to Greek ! So the all Arvanites and Apirus use to be different people from and use to speak different language. That language is the same Language that Albanians speak now ! Is this not true ? I understand all old Arvanites songs because their are in Albanian language! Ore now because that part is not in Albanian territory is the same language that We Albanians speak now!!! So what a hell you want more ?

*Istanbul

@@thanasis3999 ah really? Thought it meant more like 'to the city'

@Fashy Goy Thank you I thought that was what it meant.

@@thanasis3999 Istanbul actually translates as: To the city(Εις την Πόλη) Istinpoli

22poopoo istanbul the name comes from the Arab word for the city, which was their take on the word Constantinoupolis. It doesnt come from greek « εις την Πολην »

Greeks, Assyrians, Armenians. These civilizations flourished with arts and science but we had to stop all that to survive the blood thirsty neighbors

@@user-gw1li6jq5i Same for the Chinese. Continually interrupted by Turkic / Mongol raids all the time. Nonetheless, Greek and Chinese civilisation have both managed to contribute the most to the world.

I guess we would be more advanced...

Fuck off, Greeks ended the civilisations in Anatolia which were much more older than Greeks. They assimilated those nations who are native to Anatolia. They’re not as innocent as you think lmao.

Turks nat mongols end anatolia People mixed now Day. Arabs nat hıstory

You can find the audio in the 'Seikilos epitaph' page on Wikipedia

The west unfortunetly is quite the opposite. People just aren't proud of their roots anymore.

@@tobiasboston7795 yeah i notice that.People also in the west are afraid to embrace their roots because there is a possibility to be called racists.Meanwhile in the east other nations and countries are embracing their roots and they are proud and this is really normal and good. I think the whole problem of that is the fucking globalism.

@@MIKEK13ful Globalism is also trying to spread in eastern europe. The difference being that the west embraces it, while Greece and the rest of Europe don't (speaking as a people. Politicians are a different story)

@@tobiasboston7795 you are wrong .We as Greeks are really proud of our nation and our roots.

@@MIKEK13ful bro I know. I just said that the west doesn't think the same, and that no matter how hard globalism is spreading in europe, greeks and the entirety of eastern europe will remain proud. Got it?

the 99% of English words that start with an h, in greeks start with an i. Because the h is the tone in the ancient Greeks, the tone is not used anymore, for example, is history-istoria

@@zoelioliou4735 MHN ΠΑΡΑΧΑΡΑΖΕΤΕ ΤΗΝ ΙΣΤΟΡΙΑ, Η ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΑ ΕΙΝΑΙ ΜΙΑ!

@@zoelioliou4735 Not 99%, but only those loaned from Greek language, and which began with h+iota or h+eeta. And some other loaned from French, who also dropped the h - but they still write it. It has disppeared from the Romance languages too (the Latin based languages). Greek WROTE it with the 'tone', accent aspirata - but h is a SOUND made in the throat. Now Kh(i / khee) is closest to it, but a bit different sound, beacuse it's made in the same place as K(appa), but H was made in the throat, and still is in the languges that use it.

Oh Arvanite te kendoni gluhene mos ta harroni...

@Le Dia you mean σπαθα

Father Turkish

​@@altansbildircin2105 Father can be called someone who sometimes and some way has offered something !!!

@@pererneop3922 i answered 293 86gr

@fot geo Translate this ANTİK YUNAN MUCİZESİ BİR MİTTİR. Sonda söyleneceği en başta söyleyelim; Antik Yunan kültürü toplama bir kültür olup öncesi olmayan, Helenlerin tamamen kendilerinin yarattığı bir uygarlık mucizesi olduğu savı bir mittir, emperyalist bir yalandır. Antik Yunan'ın toplama kültür olduğu Helen düşüncesi doğana kadar olan ilk devrede kolayca görülebilir. Tanrı panteonlarının kaynağı zaten var olan Anadolu, Kafkas ve Mezopotamya kültürüdür. Örneğin Yunan mitolojisindeki Artemis (tapınağı var) sözcüğü, İskitlerin atalarından Erdimpas'tır. Yine yunan mitolojisinde önemli yer tutan 'Afrodit' sözcüğü yunanca bile değildir, Akadlıların tanrıçalarından Astarte'nin yunanca söylenişidir. Antik Yunan'ın ne kendine has bir kültürü vardır ne de uygarlığı. Tamamen toplama olan mitolojisi gibi batılıların iddia ettiği uygarlığın mucizesi diye anlatılan şey de toplamadır. 'Yunan Mucizesi' diye bahsedilen 2500-3000 yıl öncesinde Yunanlıların Fenikelilerle ticarete başlaması sonucu ortaya çıkan bilgi ve din yığınlaşması, toplamıdır. Aynı İyonyalıların İskitlerle ticaret yapıp Ertimpas'ın antik Yunan da tanrılaşmasıdır. Ne Antik Yunan'ın ne Helen ve Hristiyan döneminin günümüz Batı uygarlığı(!) ile bir ilgisi yoktur. Günümüzün Batı uygarlığı(!) bunu Antik Yunan'a yada Roma'ya değil, koloni haline getirdikleri Amerika ve Afrika kıtalarına borçludur! O kıtalarda gerçekleştirdikleri vahşi soygun ile kendi toplumlarının refah seviyesini arttırmış, bu arttırma sonucu o toplumların daha fazla ve çabuk bir şekilde nasıl daha fazla yağmalarız düşüncesi sonucu teknik ilerlemeler olmuştur. Buharlı gemilerin icat edilmesi bunların ilklerindendir. Kapitalizm öncesi manifaktür dönemi de sömürgelerden gelen malların depolanması, işlenmesi sonucu ortaya çıkmıştır. Son olarak günümüz bilimi Latin alfabesi ile yapılmaktadır ve bilim dili olarak Latin alfabesi kullanılmaktadır. Kökeni ise Antik Yunan alfabesi değil, Etrüsk tamga sistemidir. Latinler sadece Yunan'ın harfleri disipline etmesini kendine örnek almıştır. Aynı şekilde yunan alfabesi de başka bir dilin disipline edilmiş halidir; Fenike alfabesi. Bütün bu palavraya son noktayı koyan bir gelişme oldu: Batı uygarlığının kökeni olarak gösterilen ve Doğu Helen olarak tanımlanan İyonya Halkının Helenlerle ilgisi olmayan yerel Anadolu halkı olduğu günümüzde anlaşılmıştır, her ne kadar Batılı çevreler bu konuda suskun kalsalar da. Fahri Işık bu bağlamda şunları söyler; “Batı uygarlığını Anadolu’nun batısında yaratanların, “gerçek İonlar”ın, Atina soydaşı Hellenler olduğu savı, önemi nedeniyle yukarıda da sıklıkla değinildi ki, tarihsel gerçeklere dayanmaz; çünkü M.Ö. 1200-800 arası süreçte yazı yoktur. Bilinenler, Ege Göçleri’nden 700 yıl kadar sonra Atina’da yazılan mitoslara ve o ortamda kaleme alınan Historia’ya dayanır (Hrd. 1, 147). Söz konusu Atina olduğunda Herodotos taraftır, mitos ise tarih değildir. İnanılması zor olsa da, Batılı eskiçağ bilimcileri, uygarlığının kökenini Hellenlere bağlama uğruna “masalı” tarih gerçekliğinde yorumlamakta bir sakınca görmemiş; bunu da, yukarıda yerli çömlekçilerin taklidi olarak yorumlanan, çok az sayıdaki Protogeometrik biçim ve biçemdeki kabın İonia’da M.Ö. 11. yüzyıl sonlarında başlayan varlığıyla belgelemeye ça- lışmışlardır 86. Mitoslardan çıkarılan, büyük göçün acımasız bir savaşın ardından geldiğidir ve bu boyutta yıkıcı bir savaşın da İonia’daki en erken Attik çömleğinden en az yüz yıl kadar önce yaşandığıdır (Res. 11)87. Dor Hellenleri’nin M.Ö. 12. yüzyılda gerçekleştirdiği saldırıların acımasızlığında canını kurtarabilen Akhaların Hellen beyleri, Latacz’ın deyimiyle, “ada- lardaki dostlarına sığınmış, kendi haline bırakılan halk da kurtuluşu Ege adalarına ve oradan Anadolu’ya kaçışta bulmuştur”88. J. Boardmann’a göre de savaş mağduru bu halk, “malı mülkü elinden alınmış, her şeyini yitirmiş” bir çaresizliktedir” ( Fahri Işık, “ANADOLU-İON UYGARLIĞI Kolonizasyon” ve “Doğu Hellen” Kavramlarına Eleştirisel Bir Bakış”, Anadolu/Anatolia 35, 2009, s.s. 71)

@fot geo if you want to learn Something make copy paste

Wow How did you do that?

@@McCSFunk cry pure history man

Die Walküre μιλάς ελληνικά;

I’m Italian, we’re brothers of the Mediterranean and Indoeuropean cousins :)

@@lunzy6492 🇬🇷🤝🏻🇮🇹

Not Hellenic but close to it.

@Taqifsha Nanen We know that Macedonian was a language tied to Greek. If it wasn't a Greek dialect, it was a separate Hellenic language. I don't know about the Phrygian language.

@Taqifsha Nanen Yeah, but the Illyrians or the the Thracians didn't see themselves as Greeks, unlike the Macedonians. And the influence would be in such a big state that it would name their country and their people? Because names like Macedonia and Alexander are of Greek origin.

@Taqifsha Nanen why dont you know that? Dont we have hundreds of writings of their language? In graves , temples , all over Macedonia , Egypt , Asia? All their names , locations , gods , names of animals , EVERYTHING is Dorian Greek. They spoke Greek , they wrote nothing else but Greek , no single word from Illirian or Thracian was found , they considerd themselfs Greeks and only Greeks , but still there are people like you who can not accept it. Well deal with it. Ps. They could comiunicate with the other Greeks without translators , as for example is mentioned by many historians in the relations between Greeks and Egyptians , Phoiniceans , Hittites and others. Sorry , the were only Greeks.

@Taqifsha Nanen Well , i have. And they all say the same thing: 100%Greek. Dorian Greek. Deal with it.

Πες τα βρε φιλε. Εκτός απο ανιστόρητο ειναι και μη-λογικο αυτο που ισχυρίζονται για το ελληνικό αλφάβητο. Οσο για την ινδοευρωπαικη μας προέλευση νομιζω πως δεν ισχύει, αλλα νομιζω πως ολα τα εθνη προήλθαν απο την Μεσοποταμία(περιπου) όπως και εμείς!

foinikes einai oloi autoi edo mesa oi perissoteroi o xristos o aramaios

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The idea of union with Greece had not been abandoned until 1970 and Cypriot parties and the Cypriot president wanted the union with Greece until at least 1970. But the Cypriot president was not happy with the way Greek governments were behaving from 1958 and onwards because Greek governments acted a little as puppets and were close to England (as Greece was under great UK influence after both the world war and also the greek civil war or 1949, with the winners in Greek civil war supported by UK) and Makarios were not happy with how Greek governments were not fully supporting the independence efforts of Cypriots afraid to displease UK. So, the Cypriot president was displeased with the Greek governments and some negotiations. The union was wanted. That is late 50s early 60s. Of course after 1965 and the constitutional crisis in Greece and the dictatorship that followed then the political chaos of 1965-1967, and the dictatorship, any talks were out of the question, without a ruling government of political government. Following that, the dictatorship betrayed both Greeks in Greece and in Cyprus with the fascist movement and the eventual events causing war, pain, feeling of betrayal and all the bad events. So, get your facts straight. The union was wanted and the Greek governments under huge UK influence in the 1945-1965 period and especially the post civil war period. Talks could only be held in the1950s after the civil war (and after the great catastrophes of Greek for example the 1953 earthquake catastrophes that turned half the ionian island towns into dust) so for a very short time period, but Greek government was hugely affected by the UK with winners of the civil war backed by UK to act freely and support Greek cypriots which caused bitterness. After 1964-1965 Greece had huge political problems and chaos and after 1967 no government or legal govermnent at all. And then with the invasion there were other wounds. Union however was at the time the best movement forward. Now it is very early to make any thoughts about such an issue, because the important issue which is unknown how it will be solved, is the unification of the island and this is the important and difficult issue that should be resolved.

​@@innosanto You are telling me "So, get your facts straight" when you yourself are essentially implying that after 1970 the idea of union with Greece was abandoned... I believe that your disagreement lies other where. So, get your arguments straight if you want your reply to have meaning. The purpose of the Turkish invasion was NOT TO STOP union with Greece. And since you analyse pre 1970 diplomatic events so much, you mihgt have mention the plans of the colonial power governing Cyprus and wishing to control the middle east, to divide the island even before 1958..

Bullshit, the idea for Enosis wasn't abandoned; it was just postponed for later when it would be possible to do it. If the treason of Cyprus in 1974 never happened, the union with mother Greece would have happened eventually.

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Cretan scripts are not yet well understood and hence their language/s are unclassified. Archaeologists and linguists cannot say they are Indo-European, let alone Hellenic, with certainty.

Brief Histories Thanks for your reply. They haven’t been full deciphered true. There are words such Βα-σι-λι-ας(king-basil) translated from Linear A and Cretan hieroglyphics are definitely using symbols found in Linear A & B though. None other language at the time was using symbols as those. Linguists don’t argue of the connection between Linear A and b. They haven’t deciphered the writing yet. Also, the Phoenician debate is pretty interesting too. In the next decade, linguistics will have to scrap the Phoenician theory and pave a new route on understanding the alphabets of that time. The indo-European theory will follow. We need to understand that theories such as Phoenician alphabet and indo-european languages have been formed over 250 years ago. In the 1950s, Linear B was deciphered and understood as a Hellenic language, less than 100 years ago. Historians and linguists back then, considered the 8th century as the start of ‘Greek’ writing. The new archaeological findings will disapprove the Phoenician/indoeuropean theory. Exciting times.

@@wizzya9966 can you say me a source ? and you probably don't know but in that period anatolia has 12 million people. so you are talking very huge numbers.

Definitely you are seriously wrong, it didn't gave the world everything, actually it's very much asphyxinatingly close to not-everything.

@@thesecretlibrary890 is just a phrase

Java Corps we actually did you stupid ass

@@thesecretlibrary890 let me tell you what greece has offered the world Language Letters Words Tenses Dimocracy (greek invention) Free speach Philosophy History (its a greek invention) Drama Comedy Culture It has saved the world 2 times Persian empire Hittler invasion So how couldnt we own a "thanks"to greece. After all,its not greece that has to pay a german debt Its the world that has to pay a huge debt to greeks

@@wizzya9966 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Most countries have debt We also have debt🤣🤣🤣🤣 And no we didn't save anything from the Germans Cuz they conquered almost all of europe