Right on! I was thinking same thing !

Yeah and when I heard him say it, I thought Oh No , this is about to get to be “A Lesson”🤨☹️

Not hard to hear whether it's a solid can or not😂

Mopar historian...

Tony knows more about all those cars than I know about my own car

I called it on the 1st GTX video.... I know cars and know how people put them together...I have been in so many 440's that performed pretty much like lean burn 318's and they were rebuilt and"built"....I have been in so many old cars/muscle cars and know what goes on.. Glad I drove/owned original,never rebuilt versions that were in perfect condition and I have a good seat of the pants sense and can tell stock from "built"or a dud..the later is usually what they are!! They have mismatched parts,wrong parts,old part with new,worn out etc...Everything lose is a good one on this GTX..

Any classic hot rod Mopar, but especially one with a HEMI, is worth whatever "trouble" one has to go to in order to get it RIGHT. Yeah, I'd yank that beautiful "Elephant" outta there and give it one thorough going-over, looking especially for cracks in the block, heads, manifolds, crank, and rods. It'd be sad to ASSUME that all's well with that engine (though at least it looks clean under the valve covers, always encouraging), and have it spin a bearing and/or send a rod through that block. Sure, you can get a reproduction as a replacement, just add money, but no matter how much dinero you put into it, it won't be the ORIGINAL engine dropped into it some 55 years ago or so in St. Louis.

Hate it for the owner?

@@importsstillsuckhe hates that the owner had the issues

No glasses. 😂

@John Buck hell yeah! nice car man

Haha been there done that also, and now my grandson has done it to me alone with doorknobs on his bedroom door and closet with his little toolbox its put up now till we work together

@@hendo337 lmfao!! loved it, keep it up!

@John Buck me too .. 390

Seriously man, you remind me of my father and father inlaw. Guys that could fix anything have taught me the most. You near South Carolina? I hear that accent, I'm from Upstate NJ originally.

change the play speed to 1.25 and Tony is even more into it :)

Uncle Tony seemed so relaxed! No cigarette anywhere in sight! It is like the Hemi is having a natural calming effect on him!

i just subcribed to your channel as well.

Yup! I would totally be rebuilding the engine at this point. Some brain donor slapped this thing together and shit it out the door.

Yes, he’s a real treasure!!

for what was shown worth every penny start fresh in the engine so can pass car down to family member and insurance of trouble free driving. Feel for the owner but glad he brought it to UT, no more sleepless nights GTX owner was best decision made. Tony will make it sing right

@@hendo337 "patina" is a fancy word for "unrepaired rust". I really hope you're planning on doing major cleanup and rust repair on that body!

@@hendo337 ah, gotcha! Yes, make this a driver. And see if you can get the man to unclench about that 442, cars need to be driven!

Thanks UT&Crew, a good deal of prime information.

Ditto!

With what has been found so far, I would tear it down. No sense in not going through EVERYTHING at this point.

@@hendo337 the 72 is one of 11 Firebirds I own other than the 68 that is a very rusted bare shell, well whats left of it, and a 98 Formula, they are all between 71 and 79, in addition to GTOs and LeMans. You'd be interested in my brother's cars. My dad left me a 70 AAR Cuda clone, the oldest got his 426 wedge 64 Sport Fury which is a twin to the one he bought new and sold before I was born, and the brother after me got his 36 Plymouth business coupe. They they have Chargers, the oldest has a 70 383 727, the one after me has a 69 318 auto with a sure grip, and his son has a 73 Charger with a very healthy 360 stuffed in it. How I ended up a Pontiac man is a bit of a long story. The short version is I saw a blue 67 GTO in a magazine and I was hooked forever, even before I knew they hauled ass. My first car was a 67 Cougar, its sitting in my yard waiting for me to get back to it. Next year I will have owned it 40 years, and I haven't driven it since 1987. Makes me sad. I'll be making videos of the Plymouths when I go home next month, I have to move a bunch of Pontiacs off the family farm and haul them 1000 miles to where I live now. Between the brother after me and I, we own well over 100 vehicles. He has mopar I have Pontiac, Ford, chevy trucks, and some Dodge trucks. We are a gearhead family. A summer of adventure driving junk hauling junk. I need someone to drive the Cuda, would make it easier than hauling it.

Oh, mechanics? I thought they were a law firm.

For crying out loud the man OWNS A HEMI CAR!!!

Or a look of "what else did the dumbass who put it together last screw up?" that engine bay looks like a nasty can of worms

@@chazzcoolidge2654 definitely a look of "what (expletives deleted) moron put this together?!?"

It's just money. lol Bad surprises suck and even more when you paid a lot and realize you are far from done paying.

@@RiverRat-2112 it's still a matter of "holy shit, I wasn't planning on a full teardown of this car, but now if I don't I will never trust it!"

I expect to find these sorts of things, which is why I don't buy old cars with shiny paint and that detailer stuff sprayed all over the engine bay. I'd rather buy a rolling shell and built it my way than have to deal with what someone else might have fouled up.

Absolutely! A full tear down at this point. Trust nothing on this car.

This is not a run of the mill beater. Jerk that frankenhemi out and make it right, including the block, mismatched heads and cobbed up intake. When it is completed properly you will have what the rest of the car deserves. You don’t want to be in the same position as the museum that has the hatchet that George Washington used to chop down the cherry tree, except that the handle has been changed 4 times, and the head twice..... but it’s the same one! Overall it’s so nice, leave out the “excepts” it makes for a far better description in the future, and will keep the car appreciating.

With the pedigree of this car and considering how much abuse/"rigging" they usually go through in 50+ years, I'd recommend having the heater hoses magnafluxed.

@@easygoing2479 lol!

I would pull the hemi as a long-term project, and install a nice 318 in it, for the time being, so that I could take the time to build the hemi right...

Its still better life than cars that get scrapped

Guess I don't have to leave that comment:)

Exactly!

usually more along the lines of "I can't afford to have it fixed right" hehehe

@@randalljames1 I can understand that sentiment, but...even if you're doing it cheap, you still tighten up all the bolts as you go. With everything being barely finger tight in this car, it feels more "I don't care" than "I can't afford."

yea, but in the world of "mechanics" the same "I can't afford" comes with "I don't know how"... It is not lazy or incapable, just how do you build a bridge if you don't know how to build a bridge :) Perhaps you are right, just slide this crap together, we have to be out tonight.... :) regardless.. when ever a car comes in the shop that has had "previous" work done? it is SOP to check that work first (usually things to be found)

Seen worse for sure. I like when you get one where there is a huge weld in the side of the block and it cracked right next to their shitty weld. Hemis were revved to kingdom come and blown up, the guys would drop valves, throw rods and put them together with extra parts and sell them after racing them some more.

@@Digitalsharecropper If this is an actual #'s matching, original paint, 67 Hemi GTX four-speed, and he paid less than a couple hundred thousand for it. he should be happier than a pig in slop.

It would be interesting to know how Andy found it and what he paid for it.

@@hendo337 I hear ya, I would be too!

AMEN! And Second that !

I dropped F-bombs on that tank.

Totally agree, you have already gone this far. Based upon what I have seen, It could be catastrophic not to.

MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY!!

This man should be called a Legend 😃

It can be hard to prove though, margins of error for dynos can be several percent and any single modification may be gaining that much or less. In the real world where you can't easily quantify every minute detail you have to rely on common sense and experience to decide what's worth the effort. In terms of effort flipping pistons amounts to zero, so the math says literally any gain even if its not noticable is worth the effort. In the cases where flipping pistons required machine work or anything like a monetary investment I'm sure Tony would say don't bother.

@@wildrosegarage4208 on offset pins leads to egg bores, would be fine for a sleeved bore and on dyno the torque is starts early, not much increase to write home about

Pretty sure the 318 in bottle rocket has flipped pistons

@@wildrosegarage4208 Damn, did Finnegan piss in your Wheaties?

More like a lot of work and even more money. A 67 gtx is not a cookie cutter Chevy that you can buy anything out of a catalog for!