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Man this script is actually really good, doesn't seem like a cashgrab sequel. Instead a sequel that respects the characters, expand the universe, redeeming Randall and showing an interesting aspect of what monsters are to humans in the real world.

You know a script is good when someone just describing it makes you nearly cry. What a shame that this wasn’t produced.

At least Boo isn't an old lady who's dying in this version.

Theres 1 major flaw in the story. Instead of scaring the monster obsessed guy at the end, perhaps sully could reconcile with the human when he finds out that the guy was a kid they used to scare. It's there fault he's like this. Because who's to say he won't escape the arctic and become even more monter obsessed.

The slap for Randall was well earned

I love how you covered up mike’s face in the thumbnail like in the movie.

the fact that this doesn't exist is actually criminal

We don't talk about Mike's uncle, he has _TWO_ eyes.

“I’ll remember for the both of us” Oh my goodness this would be an amazing final line. I’m actually very sad this was never made.

What's even better is that the plot still fits perfectly with the current ongoing Disney Plus series. This sequel could still be made with the events taking place after Monsters at Work.

With all these known details, Lost in Scaradise sounds like it truly would’ve been such an awesome sequel! This script sounds like something Pixar would’ve come up with and it’s a shame they didn’t decide to adopt it and make it themselves.

It really sucks that It was never made into a movie. It would have been a great movie

This would’ve been an amazing sequel to monster inc! Maybe after the new monsters inc Disney plus series, it’ll motivate Disney so make this sequel.

My problem with this script is that it ends with yet another chase scene through the door warehouse with someone being held hostage. It feels like it's just repeating the same finale. I would rather a chase through the streets of Monstropolis as it would expand the monster world a little, maybe ending in Sully's apartment or even Harryhausen's.

Randall returning and possibly having a redemption arc? oh man, I wish this sequel wasn't cancelled, this is everything I'd ever want for one. Also, the Plot of the Sequel sounds very good, it's too bad they scrapped it.

They could totally still make Lost in Scaradise, since Monsters University was a prequel, and Monsters at Work followed immediately after the original.

When they found the old lady, I thought this was going to turn into some Rip Van Wrinkle stuff where it was only a few months for them, but 65 years in the human world

In Pre-K or kindergarten (around 2007-2009), there was this girl in my class who had bragged to my mom about being cast as a voice in a new Monsters Inc. movie during orientation. According to my mom, her parents corroborated the story, though she doesn't really remember the details. Either her whole family came up with an entire fake backstory as to how she had a role in a sequel to an almost 10 year old movie, or there was another sequel that was in the works after this was thrown out that we know even less about.

Pixar's Monsters trilogy: Monsters University (the beginning), Monsters inc (the sequel) and Lost in scaradise (the finale).

The timeline would go on the lines like this: Monsters University Monsters Inc. Monsters at Work Monsters Inc. 2: Lost in Scaradise

Lost in Scaradise is now officially one of the most unfortunate film loses from the early 2000s era of Disney, right up there with Fraidy Cat and A Few Good Ghosts (or My Peoples if you prefer to call it that.) But at least we got Monsters at Work coming very soon to ensure more great Monsters Inc. stories!

Wow. I can’t believe this sequel was never made. This is literally one of the best plots I’ve heard in a long time. It perfectly flows well with the story of the first movie. Shame on Disney.

The ending actually had me in tears, this is such a moving story and I'm genuinely sad we never got this

I can already see the basics of why it wouldn't work from a plot perspective. Using a "wedding" as the ticking time bomb in the plot isn't very effective as Mike's wedding isn't the core of the emotional arc in the story. In the first movie, Mike and Sully's relationship with Boo in the movie is both the emotional core of the movie and the most important plot element in the story. Everything in the original movie revolves around Boo and how she is handled so there is a looming threat around every corner that she might be "discovered" and that Mike and Sully will be discovered as "traitors" to the company that they have worked so hard for. The original film has Sully abandoning his life, dreams, and even Mike to protect "the truth" and "innocent" based on a gut feeling he had that it was the right thing to do. This makes Sully an interesting character as he is the world's best scarer and yet he is the monster with the kindest heart. It's a nice character dichotomy that really adds an extra layer to the movie's already excellent emotional core. The main ticking time bomb in the movie (outside of being discovered/fired) is the fact that the villains are about to kidnap children and essentially "milk" children dry of their scream energy... probably until they die. The stakes are VERY high for both of the main characters, Boo, and for the future of children across the world. In Lost in Scaradise, neither Boo, Simon, Sully, Celia, Flankbottom, or the Wedding are the core of the movie. When hearing the plot breakdown, it was immediately obvious that there wasn't a strong consistent core to the film or an overarching point to the film. Why is Flankbottom important to the plot other than to be a pointless rival? While Mike and Sully being stuck in the human world is inconvenient, we know that it won't kill them and that many monsters have survived in the human world without issue, so there isn't a real ticking time bomb other than Mike's wedding being inconvenienced, which Celia would obviously forgive him upon discovering that he has been missing for several days along with THE CEO OF THE COMPANY. Again, that's inconvenient but that isn't a major threat. To add to that, I'm confused as to why Mike and Sully can't just wait in front of any door at night and wait for a scarer/comedian monster to show up. The first movie has the exact same plot point where they get stuck in the human world and apparently one can get back to the monster world within a couple of hours. The other issue is that (like all Pixar movies) the character has a "want" but doesn't know what they "need". As far as I'm aware, Sully just isn't a fan of being a CEO and he misses Boo, but at the end of the movie nothing is truly accomplished and all of the characters are back at square one with the exception of Mike and Sully leaving management. There isn't a logical rush to find Boo as she is not in any danger other than the fact that Sully feels lonely. Sully wants to find Boo and he finds Boo... did he grow as a character? Did Mike grow as a character? Simon, while mildly interesting, kind of goes against the idea that humans are seen as an "other" or an "entity" that monsters don't associate with and the audience isn't supposed to be interested in. The universe of Monster's Inc is based on a child's perception of reality and "child folklore". However, once you start getting into "humans kidnapping monsters" or "humans invading the monster world" it starts to be more of a science fiction based story with rules, mechanics, and lore (which were all elements the first movie was originally going to have but they smartly cut out due to the lore feeling unnecessary and complicated). The other issue is that Simon isn't really a physical or moral threat to anyone. Sully can obviously overpower any human and Simon has no real means of threatening monsters nor is his motivation directly in conflict with Sully's. In the first movie, Mr. Waternoose is morally at odds with Sully which is why he works as a villain. Sully has to get over the fact that the boss he has worked under for decades is heartless and will gladly kidnap innocent children. Sully has to mature as a character and stand up for what he believes is right, which is in opposition to everything he once believed in. Simon, on the other hand, doesn't challenge Sully physically or morally and at most he can make bold claims of "presenting monsters" to the human world, which obviously hasn't worked for him before so why would it work now? What does Simon do to make Mike or Sully grow as a character? As of now, it seems like nothing. Now, the idea of an adult human element could work, the issue is that humans are no longer viewed as "toxic" so there isn't a huge social stigma against an adult human discovering monsters. Monster's University smartly put the plot in the past so that adult humans could be see as a powerful "entity" or "force" that monsters are unable to control or tame. For humans the equivalent would be thousands of radioactive mutants roaming about. There is a reason humans are scary. However, for a sequel, that element no longer works. I definitely enjoyed hearing this script and knowing a bit about the premise; however, I think it has a LOT of obvious flaws in it as is. For a Monster's Inc sequel to work, there needs to be growth in the characters and the story needs to work towards producing that growth. An interesting idea might be that Sully is both a terrible comedian and a terrible manager so the world that he "saved" is one that he can't adapt to and he feels useless to society. Now, that's not very flesh out, but there are ideas you could play with such as "everyone who was a scarer getting fired due to being too scary" and Sully having to deal with that along with Mike getting married or possibly other huge consequences to the Sully's actions in the first movie. There's definitely a lot to work with, but a consistent issue across all possibilities for a sequel is that it is difficult to "overturn" the world twice. It would start to feel cheap for Sully to be a constant impetus for overturning society, especially given the fact that his character is never displayed as being overly intelligent. He has a big heart and he trusts his senses, but he is never "looking" for action.

Fun fact: Sully actually became the CEO of monsters, Inc. in "monsters at work"

"That's okay. I'll remember for the both of us." My heart 😭 I actually don't hate Monsters University, but gosh. This is a way better sequel.

So cool that you got to speak to Rob Muir! He seems like such a cool guy! Sounds like this movie would’ve been awesome :(

They should have made this sequel. I would have loved to see Randall's mini redemption since he's my favorite Pixar villain. Hoping they can bring ideas like this into the new monsters at work series. Plus I would love to see Randall smile again since he would've had the same chaotic energy mike has. All and all it's a shame that this movie was never made

When I was younger I thought there’s no way they don’t make a sequel to this, man what a missed opportunity

I would rewrite the whole "being invisible" gimmick, it contradicts the other canon and doesn't really seem like a good fit for that universe.

Technically, they would have to tweak this plot a bit if they wanted to reuse it, because Monsters University showed that a door can be opened from inside using the screams of adults. That also means that adults are able to see monsters, whether or not they believe in them.

I knew it that Randall would have been in the sequel. Them teaming up with Randall would have been cool

Legit tearing up here. What an amazing story. Im so disappointed we never got this 💔 thank you for this video

I've wanted to know the story of Lost in Scaradise for literal years, thank you so much for closing the case!

I did not know all of these details but the script and story almost made me cry. What a dang shame that it was never made! 😭

Although I don’t think Disney would be able to pull off a good Pixar sequel without Pixar, I do really think this was an excellent script that I would love to see in its full form!

Im just glad we have Monsters at Work, its the closest we've got to an actual sequel to one of my favourite films also we all know adults can see Monsters if anyone remembers what happened in Monsters University

Such a shame we didn't get this. We all really want to see how an older Boo would react to the monsters.

Monsters Inc. is still my favorite movie to date, kind of sad we never got a sequel tbh.

Of all the cancelled films I’ve heard you talk about on here, I think this is the only one that definitely would’ve been better that what we eventually got. Always hated we got a prequel given the originals ending. It being fairly mediocre wasn’t the issue. Similar feeling I got to when in Harry Potter 4 they just skip the Quidditch World Cup scene. Just an overwhelming “oh. Well that fucking sucks”

Man, this sounds like a better sequel to the Monsters Inc movie than the sequel we all got (Monsters University), the main human villain, Randall redeeming himself, and there being the banished monster paradise. I would have loved this movie, although Monsters University is an ok movie. If there was a different universe where this version of the film was made and highly praised by their people in that world, I would have bought a DVD or Blu-ray of that movie from their world and kept it in our world for my family to enjoy, possibly posting it online on our KZfaq in our universe. Such a nice concept. ;)

Allegedly, a 'Monsters 3' is tentatively in the works (not 'Monsters At Work'), so this plot could still be possible. Though, the "adults can't see the monsters because they don't believe in them anymore" concept has obviously been scrapped (adults DEFINITELY see Sully at the end of MU, and the MIFTers have to hide from adults in one episode), but Pete Docter, the director of the first two films has said that they have ideas for a third, set a couple decades later, with an adult 'Boo' (her voice actress, Mary Gibbs, is now 24). So... maybe.

Disney then changed the characters and made Ralph breaks the internet I love the idea of Sully and Mike being trapped in our world (causes me anxiety just be thinking of it) but everything else feels to Disney sequel level and not Pixar to me

They’ve been spending too much time living in a scarer’s scaradise

Mike: “I can’t believe it I’M IN A THUMBNAIL!”

What an amazing story, what a shame this could never be fully realized, I am personally a huge fan of monsters inc. and I would be incredibly content with a script like this.

I really could imagine most of those scenarios playing out in a monster inc sequel. Props to Circle 7 for staying true to what was set up before they were brought on and incorporating new ideas. I do feel like it kinda dragged out towards the end though but I’m sure in actual cinematic form it’d be more condensed. Thanks for this cool tidbit of history.

Mike: I can’t believe it… I was on the thumbnail!

okay hear me out the monsters inc sequel that I've always wanted to see is the continuation from the original ending where everything is now powered by laughter. this is definitely some time when monsters are using comedy to replace scaring. now the cool part, some of the former scarers chose to not cope to this change so they found a way to infiltrate the company or had some inside people to use the doors to illegally scare. this would feel like fight club except its for scaring (just saw the 4th episode of monsters at work and one of the janitors mentioned fright club, so that's interesting). only then, mike found out when he heard some of the current employees talking about it while dropping the details of when the next meeting would be. so mike rushed to tell sully about it and planned to sneak after hours to see if its true. on the night of the club meeting, they were up on the spot like how we saw them in the prequel, they definitely found some scarers cheering around a spot lit door and coming out of it is randall (this part the writers can find a way to explain how he's back , I'm not creative enough). now they will try to figure out how to get these guys and plan things out. for a second, sully was tempted to try scaring again. he felt some excitement in him and mike noticed. he snaps sully out of it and went back home. from this point, the writers can definitely make sully slowly stray from their vision of using laughs to generate cleaner and stronger energy. make sully blowing off some steam at first, make them fight, really having a go at the psychology of "you can't change the inside of me, this is who I am" for sully (but that would be him oposing to what changed him after boo, so I don't know) but would be so cool to see if the animators can make it work

You know, you'd think Disney and Pixar would use a lot of these scrapped ideas for old Pixar Sequels for a Disney+ Exclusive film. If I was an executive, that'd be the first thing I do.

This is a freaking fantastic story and actually sounds more suitable to a theatrical release instead of a direct to video release and I’m so angry that we didn’t get this because of it was being made by Circle 7 Animation which when Disney bought Pixar it was dead in the water.

20:53 Why did my heart just start crying? Damn Pixar got in my eyes.

Even though this wasn't produced, I wish it was produced. This is, hands down in my opinion, one of the best scripts to have ever came out of Circle 7 Animation I've heard! Feels more authentic than the prequel that PIXAR gave us, really.

A Monsters Inc sequel I would actually rewatch often. And adding to the mythology of monsters by having children grow out of seeing them. I wish they could have at least pulled ideas from this script for the University movie. Leaving out Boo was a mistake.

Honestly one thing I did like that Monsters At Work did was have Sully unbanish the Abominable Snowma.

This sounds not just superior to Monsters University, but also better than the original.

I would love to see this happen still especially after the new "Monsters at Work". But you just read the script and I can't imagine Pixar or Disney being ok with a released script while still planning on making the film. This script just sounded fantastic and it could still be a progression seeing as there hasn't been any mention that Mike and Celia are married in the show.

Seriously, why couldn’t this been the official sequel to Monsters Inc.? The story is incredible.

This is one crazy idea for a sequel maybe after monsters at work we might get it

Wow… that was actually AMAZING!!! The team behind this really had potential! Alas, it’s a bigger shame that Circle 7 closed down before it could release any films. This could’ve been their magnum opus. “Nothing is worse than wasted potential” Mr. Enter. 2014

You know what? I'm 31 and I was 11 when the first movie came out. I remember crying at the teather and every other time I watched this movie. Last time I did I was with my girlfirend, probably during christmas or easter end yeah, we both cried a lot. I don't know why, there has to be something that hits me deeply about the relationship between Sullivan and Boo. Now i'm listening to the plot of this cancelled sequel and i'm crying again. It's been 20 years, TWENTY YEARS and i'm still crying over everything this movie and it's sequel supposed to have. Thanks for sharing this with us, I felt like watching a movie that never was, listening to your voice while trying to imagine every single scene. I'm truly happy I stayed awake at night only to find your video. Thanks!

I especially like the idea that Randall has his own comics. It fits so well: of course will they make comics if I real monster is found. It is so clever. R.I.P Monsters in scaradise

I remember watching Monsters Inc. all the time when I was a kid! I watched it like three times a day and hearing the plot honestly brought tears to me eyes. Thank you for making this video!

Man we have so many live action remakes why can’t we have something like this it sounds like a real BOP

The thing about monsters emitting energy makes no sense, but everything else I could actually go with.

Lost in Scaradise not being made is something I have always been made about. Monsters Inc. has always been one of my favorite Pixar Films and it’s sequel developed on the ideas of the original and more. Really makes me wish the Circle 7 was never shut down or Pixar had continued on with the plans for movies already set in motion. Hopefully Monsters at Work, which is a sequel series debuting on Disney Plus does well enough and maybe can lead to Lost In Scaradise finally being made.

Interesting that Pixar is letting another company make "Monsters at Work" after not being so opposed to others continuing their stories (which I agree with for the most part), not even bothering to look at this.

Oh man... I literally teared up listening to this. I would've definitely enjoyed this sequel. This would've been way better then what they actually made which was Monster's University.

Seemed like such a strong conclusion to the series as well. Now that the prequel is done, they could still probably do this.

Why is it always that good sequels to movies are canceled? The plot sounds awesome. Sad this never got as far to a theater release, this could have made a good opportunity for Boo’s return and Randall’s redemption arc.

Man Eisner was running Disney into the ground and Iger was like 1,000% better. People expected him just to be a clone of Eisner because he correctly read how egotistical Eisner was and knew he'd get nowhere going against him while Eisner was number one, but he set himself apart his first year by making major decisions Eisner would have hated (and did). I respect few executives, but Iger I really respect.

After watching the season 2 finale of Monsters at work, it's sad to say that this film will never come to the light 😭

This script is flawless. So sad it never happened, would've been an instant classic.

Love the added detail in the thumbnail of mike getting his head getting placed behind something!

This is an amazing script that hits on lot of character development! I so wish this movie was made because it sounds visually pleasing as well! That scene of Sully on the beach looking at the sun set on the horizon just is cool.

I’m really happy to drop back over here and find so many views! Congratulations!!

Awesome inside look at what could have been a great film! The passion and work that went into this Canned Goods really speaks for itself!

Felt like I actually watched this sequel with that whole rundown ❤️ great job

What an absolute shame this wasn't produced, the plot is very respectful to the original Monsters Inc and sounds like it'd have been extremely natural to go from Monsters Inc to Lost in Scaradise.

We are kinda seeing stuff like this already in the new monsters show on Disney plus. It’s interesting so far, and I’m excited to see where it goes

If there was gonna be a sequel I would name it MONSTER HEADQUARTERS

The part where the kids scream and scare both of them (slumber party part in the script) and the cops come for Mike and Sully is actually reworked for the ending of Monsters University which means they used it for the prequel instead, that’s pretty cool

I feel like Pixar took some notes and use some ideas from this Added to Monsters university. Even little to monsters at work.

dude, that was such a good script I got lost in the story and plot while you were describing it. so unfortunate.

For a sequel that doesn't involve the original creators in any way, this manages to be extremely faithful to the source, and really does fit true sequel material, had it gone through.

This script was a masterpiece!

we still got monsters at work, maybe boo and mikes friends from MU will be in there so theres still hope!!

Just had this video pop up in my feed and I'm so upset that this movie never happened 😭

It isn’t too late for this to be produced! It took so long for Finding Dory to be released, so maybe Lost in Scaradise can be too!

It really sucks that people at Disney/Pixar have these wonderful ideas to make stories but the ones who green light everything turn it down because they don't want to take risks anymore and just give us recycled material. Monster's University wasn't bad per se and I appreciated the message at the end but this sequel seems like it would have done well.

This would have been so much better than Monster's University. Such good and interesting concepts, it really shoes how much care they put into this script taking in account everything from the first film, instead of making a movie with these characters just because.

Dude I teared up TWICE just from you explaining the story. This would've been amazing.

Fitting since later this year this show turns 20. And lucky you that you got to interview someone who once worked for Disney. Though the part of the Jersey Devil making a cameo in this film feels odd because if you know the legend and cryptozoology, he technically would've came from the human world first since when born he was at first a normal baby, but then transformed into that monster all because his Mother Leeds cursed out to God from the pain of the 13th pregnancy. Also it's interesting how a bit of the plotlines did get reused for the Disney + TV series, and the dog part was based n the teaser trailer of the original film.

I hope this does come out some day. It’s one of the best movie I ever heard of!

15:57 I'd love to see a man tackle Barney irl

I had such a joy in imagining the plot in hd, I really wish it did go through in production.

This would've been a whole lot better than the prequel that we ended up getting

i actually wanna see pixar decide to finally do this

So Simon just wants to uncover an astonishing discovery to humanity and Sully banishes him to the Himalayan Mountains? Damn.