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@erniefoster42223 жыл бұрын
That brings me right back to my days of studying gas and fluid flow in pipes in Physics class 55yrs ago. I'm glad you wrote the formula showing flow proportional to radius to the power of 4. That means a very small change in radius has a very large effect on flow. I worked out way back then that a change in tube radius from 6 units to 7 units doubles the flow. That's a much greater effect than you would guess at first glance. Thanks for the brain stimulating video.
@WhiteboardMedicine3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for checking out the video and glad it was stimulating! Good old physics finds itself everywhere!
@lindsaylebaron8192 жыл бұрын
Respiratory therapist student here! Thanks for the video
@WhiteboardMedicine2 жыл бұрын
Wonderful! Thanks for checking out the video and good luck as you continue on in your studies!
@paulelkins4253 жыл бұрын
Very enlightening! I didn't know about the complexities that MV causes in relation to pressure changes for the heart/lungs. Makes me think about bringing back iron lungs to help expand the thoracic cavity to relieve some of those unnatural pressures upon inspiration. At least that where my mind went. :)
@latestlatest47603 жыл бұрын
Actually...the increase PVR initially increases the LV preload, and another effect of MV on the LV is that there is also a decrease in LV wall stress (not just aorta Compliance). Cheers
@WhiteboardMedicine2 жыл бұрын
That is fair! There is that brief increase in LV preload as the pulmonary vasculature shifts it’s blood volume to the LV right after the PVR increases. Always appreciate the contributions!
@hondapilot Жыл бұрын
Just saw this video. Very helpful. Can you elaborate how positive pressure ventilation or PEEP decreases aortic transmural pressure. Thank you
@WhiteboardMedicine Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words. This is a difficult concept and the exact details remain a touch elusive. We think the best way to understand it is by thinking about the intrathoracic aorta versus the extrathoracic aorta. PEEP increases intrathoracic pressure and as such the difference between the pressure in the thoracic space and the pressure inside the aorta decreases. This is in contrast to the negative inspiratory force required to take a spontaneous breath, which decreases the intrathoracic pressure and subsequently increases the difference in the pressure between the thoracic space and the pressure inside the aorta. Now, if we pull in the extrathoracic aorta we can see that the extrathoracic aorta isn’t affected by PEEP changes. It’s pressure stays the same. When PEEP is applied though and the intrathoracic pressure increases and the transmural pressure then decreases, it is easier for blood to flow down the pressure gradient to the extrathoracic aorta. Compare this conceptually to when we take a spontaneous breath and create negative intrathoracic pressure that “pulls” on the aortic wall increasing the transmural pressure and thus there is less total force to “push” blood downstream into the extrathoracic aorta. Does that make sense or did we just make it more confusing?
@Casmige3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. This is why mechanical ventilation is the treatment of last resort, it has an 80% mortality rate no matter how good of health a person is going into & being put on the process especially notwithstanding the caustic medically induced chemical cocktails ”Coma”.
@giorgikartlelishvili4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the brilliant video ! im cardiac surgery masters student , whilst the high tidal volumes are increasing the total pulmonar vascular resistancce , does it mean that ICU can simply adjust mechanical ventilation settings to avoid the increase in right ventricle afterload , caused by high PVR. thanks again !
@bonniedunbar67173 жыл бұрын
Doctor, thousands of families have felt that loved ones on the Covid units were put on vents much to soon which eventually led to death. This is especially true if it was an older family member. Do you feel this rush to vent could have been avoided if not for the pandemic?
@Casmige3 жыл бұрын
Money: It’s all about filthy lucre sake which is why I got out of the medical mafia in the 1990s with a stellar education from UIC ‘83 Biology & Nutritive Sciences + an RD. The ICU is one of the most lucrative units in a hospital which is why although usually only 10% of the overall capacity of a hospital?,it’s run between 85 and 90% constantly occupied rate.
@chimnaadumun90372 жыл бұрын
ultimately ,what happens to cardiac output during mechanical ventilation please
@WhiteboardMedicine2 жыл бұрын
That is a great question! Unfortunately, like many things in critical care medicine there isn’t a single straightforward answer. It is very much dependent on the state of the heart before going on mechanical ventilation (does the patient have heart failure?) as well as the current pathology they have. In some situations it can increase cardiac output and in other cases (probably the majority of cases) it can decrease cardiac output
@Dan-qx4vv Жыл бұрын
This is an awesome video
@davidmbeckmann3 жыл бұрын
Very nice review! In dark moments I wonder about bringing back a modern equivalent of the iron lung for advanced CoVid. We could use CPAP for hypoxia support and they could talk and eat?
@WhiteboardMedicine3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for checking it out! It’s honestly an interesting consideration. It reminds me of some early pictures out of Italy I believe that essentially had patients upper torso/head in a bubble that provided both titratable FiO2 and positive pressure. Hadn’t heard of anything like that in the states
@davidmbeckmann3 жыл бұрын
@@WhiteboardMedicine That is the cool European helmet CPAP...we need to get this variant here. More comfortable for the patient...saw a sad video with an Italian critical care doc. He said their health system couldn't afford oxygen for high flow so they used CPAP with their helmut systems...they had no negative pressure rooms, but their hospitals are old palaces, and " don't laugh at me, but we opened the windows and got good air flow. "
@WhiteboardMedicine3 жыл бұрын
@@davidmbeckmann Yeah those looked much more comfortable than the often poorly tolerated BiPAP/CPAP masks! All sorts of creative (possible) solutions to limited resources in a time of need. Much cheaper than those negative pressure ventilation systems, to be sure...
@rafaelhortencio18842 жыл бұрын
Which program did you use to do this presentation? Congrats
@WhiteboardMedicine2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for checking out the video! We use a fairly simple setup using a Wacom Tablet and Microsoft OneNote with Quickly screen capture!