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Heraclitus of Ephesus | The Logos | Philosophy Core Concepts

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Gregory B. Sadler

Gregory B. Sadler

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@Aaron-bd9sj
@Aaron-bd9sj 3 жыл бұрын
Heraclitus is my favorite philosopher. You're a fantastic teacher. New subscriber.
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed the video
@anhumblemessengerofthelawo3858
@anhumblemessengerofthelawo3858 2 жыл бұрын
_the professor is exactly the ignoramus about which Heraclitus speaks. If you can't read the text yourself, in translation, and reach Understanding, no teacher is going to help._
@WeekzGod
@WeekzGod 4 жыл бұрын
This is the first in depth discourse I've heard about the inner logos. I learned a lot.
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 4 жыл бұрын
Heraclitus doesn't talk about an "inner" logos, just the logos
@Dyslexic-Artist-Theory-on-Time
@Dyslexic-Artist-Theory-on-Time 3 ай бұрын
The absorption and emission of light is spontaneous, continuous change! The continuous movement of positive and negative charge, Union of Opposites!
@uniphcommunity.thewhitetower
@uniphcommunity.thewhitetower 9 ай бұрын
Great lecture! LOGOS is the "how-to" principle of universal order, the soul's process of growth, human discourse, and cosmic process! The Logos with its multiple meanings, "πολυσημία" in Greek! Thanks a lot, professor!
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 9 ай бұрын
Tough to pin down precisely what it means for Heraclitus from the fragments we have
@tristants9209
@tristants9209 3 жыл бұрын
One of the most underrated philosophers. Heraclitus is very interesting, his theory of Logos is quite intriguing. Thank you professor for the presentation.
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 3 жыл бұрын
You’re very welcome!
@gonzalorenatoquintanazunin6984
@gonzalorenatoquintanazunin6984 2 сағат бұрын
Thank you, this is exactly and more of what I needed to write my metal music lyrics :)
@camaples
@camaples 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Greg, there's a lot of "Logos buzzwording" abounding in the zeitgeist atm, and I think it's crucial to challenge these Logoi peddlers to define their terms. Appreciate your work here as always. YOU, Sir, are the best philosophy prof. alive that I am aware of.
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 4 жыл бұрын
Who is particularly talking about "logos"?
@AlternicityBlogspot
@AlternicityBlogspot 2 жыл бұрын
@@GregoryBSadler E Michael Jones introduced me to the concept.
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 2 жыл бұрын
@@AlternicityBlogspot Never heard of him. I'd say that there's dozens of "concepts" of logos just in ancient philosophy. Simply because people use a single term doesn't mean it's the same concept they have in mind
@AlternicityBlogspot
@AlternicityBlogspot 2 жыл бұрын
@@GregoryBSadler Yes actually he said in a video that there is no other European language that can translate it adequately. At some point it may risk becoming so full of meanings it becomes useless.
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 2 жыл бұрын
@@AlternicityBlogspot that's a big Nope to both of those. I'd find better people to watch
@baldendoboriqua6391
@baldendoboriqua6391 3 жыл бұрын
you are so fucking underrated its unbelievable! thank you professor!
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 3 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome!
@jimhayes9939
@jimhayes9939 2 жыл бұрын
I look forward to seeing more of your videos. Thank you for this.
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome
@kymjohnthorburn6044
@kymjohnthorburn6044 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I am stounded by the age of Heraclitus' wisdom on 'Logos', and thank you for your non sided academic presentation,.
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@_7.8.6
@_7.8.6 4 жыл бұрын
Logos I feel is an “unfolding” process
@Winterwalker442
@Winterwalker442 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Dr. Sadler, great job
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 2 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome!
@theAxehound
@theAxehound 2 жыл бұрын
I like E. Michael Jones definition- the order of the universe!!
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t. Pretty sure we don’t need a definition here
@marketdetective
@marketdetective 6 ай бұрын
Thank you 🙏
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 6 ай бұрын
You're welcome
@SamuelJFord
@SamuelJFord 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, learned a lot. Thank you.
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@TupacMakaveli1996
@TupacMakaveli1996 6 ай бұрын
Thanks
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 6 ай бұрын
You’re welcome
@MeghannG
@MeghannG Жыл бұрын
Don’t know if you’ll see this, but I have a reason to believe that “first see half…….” Quote is actually in another book all together in translation. I found it by chance. Don’t know if you’re interested in knowing where, or if you already know.
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler Жыл бұрын
I'm only interested in the actual fragments I'm working from, which can be found in Diels. Anywhere else, don't really care
@TheCruiseDog
@TheCruiseDog 3 жыл бұрын
Would you say that your fuller explanation of "The Logos" is closer to what John is referring to in John 1:1 rather than just "The Word?" What has come down to us in the KJV seems to me to be an inadequate translation. Would that be a correct assessment? Thanks.
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 3 жыл бұрын
Well, you shouldn't be relying on the KJV period, but that's a separate issue. Closer? Sure, but with a lot of distance still between them
@TheCruiseDog
@TheCruiseDog 3 жыл бұрын
@@GregoryBSadler Thanks. Much appreciated.
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 2 жыл бұрын
@@franciskm4144 Nope. Not the same logos
@jkovert
@jkovert 2 жыл бұрын
@@franciskm4144 Not meant to be "the same," necessarily. John was bridging the conception of Word/God/logos for Hebraic Christians and Hellenic Christians.
@jkovert
@jkovert 2 жыл бұрын
@@franciskm4144 Not uncommon. Aristotle was claimed by the church to be a Christian before Christianity. Ari was also called an existentialist by the existentialists (who didn't even call themselves that until Sartre).
@shanejohns7901
@shanejohns7901 2 жыл бұрын
Fragment 115 seems to have multiple understandings. Is the Logos there in the DNA as a predisposition? Or is it something that can only be determined in retrospect as an unfolding of events leading up to the present state of Being?
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 2 жыл бұрын
I’d say neither.
@theriversexitsense
@theriversexitsense 4 жыл бұрын
What's the difference from Logos and Hegel's dialectic?
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 4 жыл бұрын
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@alexjoseph8257
@alexjoseph8257 Ай бұрын
New sub❤
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler Ай бұрын
Welcome
@kenneth1767
@kenneth1767 2 жыл бұрын
Can I say that the logos of the tree is in the seed?
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 2 жыл бұрын
You can say anything you like. But that would probably be wrong
@narcopolo4464
@narcopolo4464 4 жыл бұрын
Regarding fragment 1, could you further elaborate on your conclusion(?) about it referring to logos?
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 4 жыл бұрын
Not likely in comments, no.
@narcopolo4464
@narcopolo4464 4 жыл бұрын
@@GregoryBSadler when curiosity takes over the keyboard late at night while focusing on the content. Not sure what I was expecting, I hope you found the request somewhat amusing. Great video, your channel looks interesting and I look forward to exploring it!
@Epicteetus
@Epicteetus 2 жыл бұрын
I've often read that in the translated works of Stoic texts, like Discourses, the word "reason" is used as the translation of the word "logos", is that true? If it is, how closely do you think our modern conception of using reason aligns with the ancient meaning behind logos?
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 2 жыл бұрын
I'd say there is no such thing as "our modern conception of using reason" any more than there is a single "ancient meaning behind logos". Both are terms with multiple meanings
@Epicteetus
@Epicteetus 2 жыл бұрын
@@GregoryBSadler Fair enough. But is "reason" a common word used to translate the word "logos" in the original Stoic texts?
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 2 жыл бұрын
@@Epicteetus You know it is
@shanebossom197
@shanebossom197 2 жыл бұрын
What is the word for thunder or lightning strike that they aren't sure how to translate?
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 2 жыл бұрын
Who’s “they”?
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 8 ай бұрын
@@darillus1 There's zero point in you trying to provide a better translation
@jannieschluter9670
@jannieschluter9670 3 ай бұрын
Today they call the Logos philosophy: "We are living in a Matrix!" or "We are living in a Simulation!" Is that overall correct?
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 3 ай бұрын
No. Just kooky
@StephenMolloyGoogle
@StephenMolloyGoogle 2 жыл бұрын
In some narrow sense then, could it be said that the laws of physics are "a logos" ?
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 2 жыл бұрын
Sure
@StephenMolloyGoogle
@StephenMolloyGoogle 2 жыл бұрын
@@GregoryBSadler Thanks. I can see why the Logos (with a capital "L") was such a useful concept for the author of the 4th gospel (although I'm pretty sure he was talking about something more profound than the mechanical laws of physics). Thanks for this video. It really helped me :)
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 2 жыл бұрын
@@StephenMolloyGoogle There aren't capitals in the Greek text of the Gospel. And yes, John is talking about something different than what you are, and both are using the term logos differently than Heraclitus is. A word with many senses
@StephenMolloyGoogle
@StephenMolloyGoogle 2 жыл бұрын
@@GregoryBSadler Thanks for taking the time to reply.
@internetuser777
@internetuser777 2 жыл бұрын
In Chinese Bibles, Λόγος/Logos is translated to 道/Tao. You should read the Tao Te Ching if you haven’t already. It could give you a better understanding of Logos.
@zackmuravev2730
@zackmuravev2730 3 жыл бұрын
How... Did I get here?
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 3 жыл бұрын
No clue
@jkovert
@jkovert 2 жыл бұрын
via the telos, probably
@collier1915
@collier1915 3 жыл бұрын
Am I right in thinking that the logos is something akin to jung's collective unconscious?
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 3 жыл бұрын
Probably not.
@collier1915
@collier1915 3 жыл бұрын
@@GregoryBSadler okay thank you 👍
@collier1915
@collier1915 3 жыл бұрын
@@GregoryBSadler great content by the way .👍
@speckspacey
@speckspacey 3 жыл бұрын
So the Logos is essentially something that can be nothing or everything.
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 3 жыл бұрын
It's definitely not nothing to Heraclitus
@speckspacey
@speckspacey 3 жыл бұрын
@@GregoryBSadler Thank you for the reply, Professor. You work is a great guide for the interested laymen like myself. Greetings from Ukraine.
@AlternicityBlogspot
@AlternicityBlogspot 2 жыл бұрын
1:06 Polysemous ...(sp?)
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 2 жыл бұрын
Yep
@LoveSumsItUp
@LoveSumsItUp 2 жыл бұрын
John 1 oooh the mystery! I’ve seen the logos before I knew what it is….the beingness. Burning Bush that consumeth not. The triune, creator.
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 2 жыл бұрын
Nope. Different logos. It’s a term with lots of meanings and is used differently by different thinkers. It’s a mistake to conflate them
@LoveSumsItUp
@LoveSumsItUp 2 жыл бұрын
@@GregoryBSadler I admit that I made my comment before I watched this video…I enjoyed your work.
@paulinsonso6569
@paulinsonso6569 2 жыл бұрын
✨ ologies...
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 2 жыл бұрын
Those come later on, long past the time of Heraclitus
@paulinsonso6569
@paulinsonso6569 2 жыл бұрын
@@GregoryBSadler thank you... Will listen again... Much appreciated...
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