Here's How Sony Made The PS2 Slim So Small

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2 жыл бұрын

The PS2 saw a big revision about 4 years after its release shrinking the system down to the size of a couple game cases and surprising everyone. Today I wanted to look inside the PS2 Slim and compare it to the original system to see just how different they really are.
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@Jrome4life
@Jrome4life 2 жыл бұрын
The ps2 slim was the most portable home system of its time. Throw it in you backpack and take it with you
@usernamemonopoly
@usernamemonopoly 2 жыл бұрын
I mean the GameCube literally had a carry handle lol
@dacosmicegg
@dacosmicegg 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. When travelling with school, me and my friends always took a slim PS2, a couple of controllers and games and we were spending the nights in hotels and host houses playing on this thing. I still have mine in my room here.
@starrieyedGirl
@starrieyedGirl 2 жыл бұрын
So true
@FoolsGould
@FoolsGould 2 жыл бұрын
I'd say it's more portable than the switch, that dock is SO annoying to carry around
@2seep
@2seep 2 жыл бұрын
@PAUL MH still got mine, and I still use it to this day
@TheGimGamer
@TheGimGamer 2 жыл бұрын
I remember my friend getting in trouble and his Dad walked into the room completely quite unplugged the ps2 slim and just put it in his pocket and left the room
@dajam9035
@dajam9035 2 жыл бұрын
"Put it in his pocket" did he have on cargo pants 😂
@TheGimGamer
@TheGimGamer 2 жыл бұрын
@@dajam9035 naw lol he was just big! Like 6.4
@Pariahmary
@Pariahmary 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheGimGamer he may have been 6.4 but he probably felt like an absolute giant that day.
@dajam9035
@dajam9035 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheGimGamer Hahah damn
@therunawaykid6523
@therunawaykid6523 2 жыл бұрын
He must have had some big pockets wow
@StelerSteel
@StelerSteel 2 жыл бұрын
The power supply being outside is a much great benefit then it being inside. While it may seem cool, the original model was prone to failure and then you'd have to open up the whole thing and replace the board rather then just buying a new cord to fix the power supply.
@sp0re8900
@sp0re8900 2 жыл бұрын
For the phaty 75% of the time it was a small removable fuse on the power supply not the actual power supply I had it happen to me. Now I have a extra power supply just sitting around no complaints tho.
@jk-474
@jk-474 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, fats are more durable in my experience, and that PSU isn’t difficult to replace if you know what you’re doing. Drive assembly and motherboards on fat models are FAR better 💯
@SanchezS1998
@SanchezS1998 2 жыл бұрын
@@sp0re8900 I wonder if that fuse is what crapped out on mine. I had it plugged in without using it for several months, hit power and POP.
@crf80fdarkdays
@crf80fdarkdays 2 жыл бұрын
Never personally seen a phat PSU fail, I have a couple launch edition consoles aswell
@GenesHand
@GenesHand 2 жыл бұрын
Fat models are more reliable all around even with the PSU inside the console.
@Thefirespirit1
@Thefirespirit1 2 жыл бұрын
I remember being absolutely amazed that the ps2 could go from such a huge monster to that little thing. It went camping with me, it went to friends houses, it went everywhere, and it did so because it was so small and easy.
@zybch
@zybch Жыл бұрын
It was easy, they just removed EVERYTHING that made it a good system.
@Thefirespirit1
@Thefirespirit1 Жыл бұрын
@@zybchcope
@pjleon8391
@pjleon8391 Жыл бұрын
@@zybch Like turning a Pioneer Receiver into a boombox 🤦😂
@chrisspearline767
@chrisspearline767 Ай бұрын
Huge Monster really?
@Thefirespirit1
@Thefirespirit1 Ай бұрын
@@chrisspearline767 I don't care, this comment is two years old, if you don't think it was that big, then cool.
@MiniRunnera7
@MiniRunnera7 2 жыл бұрын
I've had the PS2 Slim since my birthday in 2006, to this day this works great!
@taytayrazors9033
@taytayrazors9033 2 жыл бұрын
What kind of Games you Have for your PS2 slim?
@happyd6145
@happyd6145 2 жыл бұрын
@@taytayrazors9033 WWE SMACKDOWN HERE COMES THE PAIN
@Vendiktuss
@Vendiktuss 2 жыл бұрын
I still have my fat PS2 from 2001... and yes, it does indeed still work to this day
@happyd6145
@happyd6145 2 жыл бұрын
@@Vendiktuss no lens problem? Any repairs? Do you play wwe HCTP?
@originator4649
@originator4649 2 жыл бұрын
You were born in 2006? 😳
@HybridAngelZero
@HybridAngelZero 2 жыл бұрын
I love the PS2 from a design standpoint, but the fact that the adhesive on the ribbon cable will eventually dry out, cause the ribbon cable to pop up and scratch a ring onto your games is a big issue.
@crf80fdarkdays
@crf80fdarkdays 2 жыл бұрын
Might be a big issue but it is easily fixable
@HybridAngelZero
@HybridAngelZero 2 жыл бұрын
@@crf80fdarkdays How would one go about fixing it?
@canopus5498
@canopus5498 2 жыл бұрын
@@crf80fdarkdays its only a matter of time before the problems returns though
@crf80fdarkdays
@crf80fdarkdays 2 жыл бұрын
@@canopus5498 not if you fix it properly.
@crf80fdarkdays
@crf80fdarkdays 2 жыл бұрын
@@HybridAngelZero one option would be to glue it back down, the other option would be to make a bracket that keeps it in place and buy spare ribbon cables. Or just get the correct model
@execation
@execation 2 жыл бұрын
I have both versions (many, in fact!) but the one in my entertainment centre is the silver phat with a 2TB SSD harddrive running Free McBoot. It's perfect.
@abderrahmandjaib3942
@abderrahmandjaib3942 2 жыл бұрын
The ssd is an overkill tho
@dapperfan44
@dapperfan44 2 жыл бұрын
@@abderrahmandjaib3942 not really. It runs cooler because there's no moving parts. The PS2 is twenty years old man, we don't want to stress them any more than they've already been. I'm happy with my 500 GB SSD in it, with the small file sizes of PS2 and PS1 games there's more than enough games on it to last a lifetime.
@mandibiedermann2246
@mandibiedermann2246 2 жыл бұрын
Even is PS2 slims you can boot faster games with a mini router with usb port using the RJ45 cable and is much easy than PC smb share method
@SHADOSTRYKR
@SHADOSTRYKR 2 жыл бұрын
My first PS2 was a Silver Slim, but I want a “Fat” one now, I like the industrial design of it more. My friend snagged a fat one for $25 recently and it seriously looks like it came out of the box brand new. Quite a find.
@iiOmarSP
@iiOmarSP 2 жыл бұрын
My suggestion would be: Get an SCPH-3900X model if you want to use discs, or an SCPH-5000X if you want to use the HDD due to the mechacon
@TexasHollowEarth
@TexasHollowEarth 2 жыл бұрын
Version 4R revision and earlier had the Firewire port that some games (Armored Core 2 + AC Another Age) used for lan-style multiplayer; A big deal to me. Later revs lost the Firewire port. V9 added built-in IR sensor & progressive scan for DVD functionality. It used a new model remote vs the older model that included an IR dongle.
@peskypengy
@peskypengy 2 жыл бұрын
One of my cousin's friends gifted me his chonko ps2 like 10 years ago. I have it on my shelf but a lot of the games he had weren't ones I really play so I gotta find some that won't cost me an arm and a leg haha.
@PSYCHOV3N0M
@PSYCHOV3N0M 2 жыл бұрын
@@peskypengy Mod it and use ROMs on it instead. Modern Vintage Gamer made a video about it.
@Pungba
@Pungba 2 жыл бұрын
@@PSYCHOV3N0M I just got a fat boi and added an HDD. Really easy to do, and there really are a lot of benefits
@nitrax8629
@nitrax8629 2 жыл бұрын
Personally I prefer the second to last version of the PS2 slim (the 7900x series) as it ran much quieter than other slims and didn't have the disc scratching issue all other slims had. The fact they crammed the EE, GS and RDRAM onto one SoC is frankly astounding.
@exaltedb
@exaltedb 2 жыл бұрын
I think they were able to do so as they shrank the chip circuitry down so much that there were able to do so feasibly (the original ps2 was using the ancient 250nm process while that all-in-one chip used 65nm)
@truxttondogyuun
@truxttondogyuun 2 жыл бұрын
furry!
@felixis81
@felixis81 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting comment on the 7900x series regarding disc scratching issue, this problem is mainly caused by the laser ribbon cable that pops up as the adhesive no longer sticks over time, creating contact with the spinning disc. I would assume the laser ribbon cable for 7900x were assembled in the same way as say 7000x series? So why is it exactly that 7900x doesn't have the disc scratching issue then?
@prich0382
@prich0382 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if you were to make a PS2 today with modern transistor size, how big wouold the chip need to be
@exaltedb
@exaltedb 2 жыл бұрын
@@prich0382 probably no bigger than a fingernail
@bryannguyen2383
@bryannguyen2383 2 жыл бұрын
I was a kid and grew up with the PS2 Slim and I loved how small and compact it was. I would pack the PS2 slim in a shoe box to take it over to friends' houses. It was AMAZING for travel.
@I_SuperHiro_I
@I_SuperHiro_I 2 жыл бұрын
PS2 is the prettiest console ever.
@hollowinside1962
@hollowinside1962 2 жыл бұрын
the original wii is
@ass.blaster2000
@ass.blaster2000 2 жыл бұрын
The PS3 slim is imo. It’s so sleek
@SonicBoone56
@SonicBoone56 2 жыл бұрын
Hell no lol. It's an ugly blsck box with asymmetrical shapes and fake grills. Far better looking consoles out there.
@emil.soderholm
@emil.soderholm 2 жыл бұрын
I think the launch ps4 looks the best, or maybe the ps5 even
@broomybroomybroomy
@broomybroomybroomy 2 жыл бұрын
@@ass.blaster2000 This is the correct answer. PS3 Slim and PS4 Slim are simple yet elegant. Reasonably sized.
@wozthescott2804
@wozthescott2804 2 жыл бұрын
Now we need to find out how they make starbursts so juicy.
@MarmaladePlan3t
@MarmaladePlan3t 2 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait for starburst tear down
@MarmaladePlan3t
@MarmaladePlan3t 2 жыл бұрын
Emphasis on tear, that wrapped is actually melded inside of the central starburst unit
@LucieOne
@LucieOne 2 жыл бұрын
When human beings are extinct, that question will remain. We also won't have found out who let the dogs out.
@TheRealDustinNunn
@TheRealDustinNunn 2 жыл бұрын
@Woz the Scott Oh, that's easy. You just read the ingredients on the Starburst wrapper.
@random_gamer_guy82
@random_gamer_guy82 2 жыл бұрын
Alchemy. Purely. I'm convinced.
@vesselinkrastev
@vesselinkrastev 2 жыл бұрын
I think the 9000 models were even more impressive because they managed to put that powerbrick which was almost as big as the original slim back into the console and the dimensions remained about the same.
@9aracna.
@9aracna. 2 жыл бұрын
I still use my launch PS2, people say it's less reliable because it often stops reading discs, but that's a very easy fix, you just adjust a gear in there about two or three clicks and it will read everything just fine, I have to do that every six or so years, takes a couple minutes. I also have the hard drive and network adapter, plus I use the connector cable (I forget the name, fire something?) that connects in the front at the blue part
@AncientWare
@AncientWare 2 жыл бұрын
The 90001 model is even more impressive including the power supply inside the console.
@aiodensghost8645
@aiodensghost8645 2 жыл бұрын
That's the WORST model of the PS2 die to it overheating a lot more often than not. Between my 70001 Slim and 90001 Slim the 70001 Slim is still operational, and that's with using both of them in open areas where ventilation is more than possible.
@realFoxBox
@realFoxBox 2 жыл бұрын
@@aiodensghost8645 THey also patched out the memory card exploit starting with these models so MCBoot wouldn't work anymore.
@harb1911
@harb1911 2 жыл бұрын
@@aiodensghost8645 7000x rev.b is the best slim. it retains PS1 HW backwards compatibility and it got the nasty MECHACON firmware bug fixed that fry lasers. also it can be modded to support IDE drives.
@AncientWare
@AncientWare 2 жыл бұрын
@@aiodensghost8645 mine still does the job
@AncientWare
@AncientWare 2 жыл бұрын
@@realFoxBox ulaunchelf and OPL work without needing FMCBoot...
@KatanaRikku
@KatanaRikku 2 жыл бұрын
This was the best looking PS2
@eddi3401
@eddi3401 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve had the slim ps2 and I played San Andreas all the time
@Electro096
@Electro096 2 жыл бұрын
Which one?
@dmo848
@dmo848 2 жыл бұрын
No way. Og all the way. But this is nice. I will say
@The_RedVIII
@The_RedVIII 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I wish we got Slims that small again. Just imagine a PS5 that size.
@Poever
@Poever 2 жыл бұрын
Or even a PS4. How hard can it be?
@Unknown-sf6cs
@Unknown-sf6cs 2 жыл бұрын
@Snake24 or even a ps3
@waverazor
@waverazor 2 жыл бұрын
People can’t even have ps5s in their rooms
@teacherfromthejungles6671
@teacherfromthejungles6671 2 жыл бұрын
dude, these days video cards are bigger than PS2, what are you talking about?
@AleksLazar
@AleksLazar 2 жыл бұрын
That would be so hot. Literally. But cool of they could. Bet they’ll slim em down to PS3/PS4 slim size or so by third revision
@0Zero0Chan
@0Zero0Chan 2 жыл бұрын
I grew up with the slim. It's definitely nice that it doesnt take up too much space considering all the consoles I've collected through my life so far.
@alolanstarboy
@alolanstarboy 2 жыл бұрын
I was just recently talking to a friend about how impressive the ps2 slim was ESPECIALLY that final revision where they managed to cram even the power supply into the same size body as the first slim. Like it’s such a cool thing.
@stevesstuff1450
@stevesstuff1450 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, that was the 9000x series... it looks lovely with the smooth shiny top panel next to the disc lid! Very convenient too with it's built-in PSU... I have one and it's permanently hooked-up! 😉 People criticise it for 'emulating' PS1 games, but I've never had any issues with that... Harder to find now, 'cause not many were made/sold, but I prefer it to my original PS2 that I've had for the last 20-odd years! Sony did really well with this version of the Slim... 😉👍
@wyldelf2685
@wyldelf2685 5 ай бұрын
Yes but because of internal power addition it's much heavier than previous Slims
@martinrc80
@martinrc80 2 жыл бұрын
Saw one of these at a thrift store the other day. Was so tempting to pick up but already have a PS2.
@Gakki_Aniki
@Gakki_Aniki 2 жыл бұрын
Happens all the time !
@I_SuperHiro_I
@I_SuperHiro_I 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah so did I. A silver one for $80. How much did you see it for?
@UndeadCollector
@UndeadCollector 2 жыл бұрын
@@I_SuperHiro_I $80 is super expensive. You can get one of ebay for the same Price, but with alot of Games on top! And "Silver" is nothing special. It was sold alongside the black modell, it's not rare. More like "another option".
@taytayrazors9033
@taytayrazors9033 2 жыл бұрын
@@I_SuperHiro_I I Have Sliver One Too.
@I_SuperHiro_I
@I_SuperHiro_I 2 жыл бұрын
@@UndeadCollector I didn’t buy it. It wasn’t in the greatest shape and I thought $80 was a lot too.
@korniphobia
@korniphobia 2 жыл бұрын
I used to hide my weed in the expansion port from my brother lol.
@taytayrazors9033
@taytayrazors9033 2 жыл бұрын
😆
@execation
@execation 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone used it for a little stash of something 🤣💯
@AleksLazar
@AleksLazar 2 жыл бұрын
Hope it didn’t dry out faster. For some reason my brain recalled the dorm room smell from back in college. Good play times
@truestory9891
@truestory9891 2 жыл бұрын
I use to hide my money in there
@corytanksley7909
@corytanksley7909 2 жыл бұрын
bruh, that's where I kept mine too!
@JDCALDECOTT
@JDCALDECOTT 2 жыл бұрын
I remember going round to mates and seeing this for the first time, I was blown away! It’s still so impressive today!
@josephferrel3413
@josephferrel3413 2 жыл бұрын
I found these breakdowns entertaining and informative. Thanks for them.
@TheAlphaWoomy
@TheAlphaWoomy 2 жыл бұрын
The SLIM PS2's are a crap shoot, if you get one before the DVD ribbon cable cover it will scratch your disc because the adhesive comes undone.
@IcanGOwithTHEflow
@IcanGOwithTHEflow 2 жыл бұрын
True half my ps2 games have a circle round the middle of the discs also when the power button starts to go bad you'll get disc tray open while playing games
@SergKhrypun
@SergKhrypun 2 жыл бұрын
PS2 fat was the best one tho.
@TexasHollowEarth
@TexasHollowEarth 2 жыл бұрын
@Serhii Khrypun - 👍... especially with having the option of upgrading the network adapters with sata interface boards. 2TB hdds work great in fat PS2 models.
@SergKhrypun
@SergKhrypun 2 жыл бұрын
@@TexasHollowEarth Word! personally tho - I had no internet connectivity throughout the whole time.
@shiethegal
@shiethegal 2 жыл бұрын
News to me, I've never had that problem.
@MajinBoowomp
@MajinBoowomp 2 жыл бұрын
I was born in 2002, and my dad got his PlayStation 2 in early 2001, a bit after the holiday launch rush. We had that until 2008 when the disc drive died. A few days later, my dad bought a PlayStation 2 Slim from Kmart, and we still have that to this day.
@RealTalk309
@RealTalk309 2 жыл бұрын
This is crazy I was doing my Sunday cleaning and tackled my gaming section, I was just dusting of my ps2 slim and thinking to myself while cleaning it “man what an amazing system with an incredible library“ Love my ps2
@cantolope3322
@cantolope3322 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been waiting for this video from you for so long
@jorgealonso8742
@jorgealonso8742 2 жыл бұрын
I got a PS2 Slim some months ago and it has become on of my favorite systems to collect for.
@gameskyjumper1721
@gameskyjumper1721 2 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see PS5 slim. Judging from the recent redesign of heatsink, seems like it can still be trim down in size.
@yoso378
@yoso378 2 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see it mostly because the current PS5 is seriously huge
@urukadooedwards7637
@urukadooedwards7637 2 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna wait for the PS5 Slim too!
@thekangaroo1880
@thekangaroo1880 2 жыл бұрын
I always wait for the pro version. If a pro version of the ps5 isn't released yet by the time I want to buy one, I'll just try to buy the first ps5 model.
@Miss-Foe
@Miss-Foe 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I want a PS5 but it's way too huge and frankly not a great looking console so I'll wait for the inevitable slim. Hopefully it's pretty easy to get by then too.
@PSYCHOV3N0M
@PSYCHOV3N0M 2 жыл бұрын
@@thekangaroo1880 But then by the time you buy an original PS5, the PS5 Pro will come out not long after and you'll wish you waited.
@Jay-uw4bu
@Jay-uw4bu 2 жыл бұрын
I took mine apart a few times as a kid to clean and fix the laser. I had a sliver one I brought in like 2009. Two of the OG ones died on me but the slim still works to this day
@CaptainChrisMoore
@CaptainChrisMoore 2 жыл бұрын
I remember how the wide ribbon cable for the disk lens would pop up and leave a groove on disks
@ddarko08
@ddarko08 2 жыл бұрын
I still have my original fat model, and it works great. Wish I’d picked up a slim a few years back when they were more reasonably priced. Great vid, as always! Keep up the gym work, too…looking great!
@roralize1358
@roralize1358 2 жыл бұрын
I was born in 2002 and grew up with the PS2. I was gifted my sister's launch PS2 in 2008. I played it until the laser died around 2012, and replaced it with a Slim that I got brand new for $15 at the time. Still have it and the majority of my games to this day. I play it every so often, swapping it in and out of my current PS3 and Wii setup.
@I_SuperHiro_I
@I_SuperHiro_I 2 жыл бұрын
It’s an awesome system with an incredible game library. Keep those games!
@damascus6480
@damascus6480 2 жыл бұрын
I have over 40 games so far, I have a long list to finish up 😅.
@I_SuperHiro_I
@I_SuperHiro_I 2 жыл бұрын
@@damascus6480 it’s a PS1 game, but if you’ve never played it, you must try Legend of Legaia. It’s soooo good.
@Matanumi
@Matanumi 2 жыл бұрын
I love how this kid was born later but STILL got to experience the golden era even if it was later
@roralize1358
@roralize1358 2 жыл бұрын
@@Matanumi Thanks! I appreciate all the time I got. Also grew up with GameCube via Wii back compat.
@zeroman0460
@zeroman0460 2 жыл бұрын
The one amazing thing was with the PS2 phat model was that the disc drive would read MUCH more faster compared to the silm. So certain games would take so long to load.
@scribblebee9549
@scribblebee9549 2 жыл бұрын
I've wondered about this!! also your arms are huge bro congratulations
@UndeadCollector
@UndeadCollector 2 жыл бұрын
Im a Nintendo Guy (playing Sony Consoles/Games as well) but imo the PS2 Slim Revision is one of the best revisions. It's actually "Slim" and the small form factor gives you the option to put it on many places other consoles would never fit in. As someone having many consoles hooked up all the time, saving so much space is really nice. In compare: the PS3 or 4 Slim is still "big". Bigger then most other normal Consoles, But i also prefer the combination of PS2 slim and PS3 Slim and don't have to worry about a PS3 Fat Lady. I also never own the Original PS2, but since the Slim came out, who really want's to put a "big brick" on the console Shelf if it's not for collecting sake only.
@dapperfan44
@dapperfan44 2 жыл бұрын
I prefer fat lady PS3 because she has way more features, specially PS2 compatibility. PS2 slim added a feature when losing one-removed hard drive in each for baked in internet? Sure.
@Dad_Shoes
@Dad_Shoes 2 жыл бұрын
I just bought this model three days ago as my first PS2. I've only had a PS1 as my only Sony system up until now, and I'm really loving it so far.
@Dad_Shoes
@Dad_Shoes 2 жыл бұрын
@PAUL MH I'm fine with needing to open the system and replacing the drive if I need to. I did that with my original PS1 from 1998 just a few months ago without any issue, so I doubt it'd be that much harder to do.
@Unknown-sf6cs
@Unknown-sf6cs 2 жыл бұрын
@PAUL MH ps2 are made for crt tvs so the quality will be worse on hdtv because it was specifically made for crt tvs
@Hayden2447
@Hayden2447 2 жыл бұрын
@PAUL MH “full screen” You mean stretched out to 16:9
@nsgames24
@nsgames24 2 жыл бұрын
It still amazes me how they did that, back in the day. Even if they took some stuff out, it's still neat to see.
@Bez2112
@Bez2112 2 жыл бұрын
Still have my fat PS2. Have it with an IDE hard drive. It is amazing how fast the games load on it.
@Electro096
@Electro096 2 жыл бұрын
Same, playing all your games off the hard drive with OPL is amazing
@_Frank_the_Tank
@_Frank_the_Tank 2 жыл бұрын
Same here. I use a 2.5 inch 2tb sata hard drive in mine, connected to the Sony network adapter via a small cheapo ide to sata adapter. The disk drive on my fatty PS2 died many many years ago but Free Mcboot and OPL has kept the rest of it going strong. I do have a slim PS2 that I bought way back when the disk drive died on my fatty PS2. Trying to play games on a slim with a hard drive via the USB ports is not a pleasant experience... It's a slow stuttering mess. Sony definitely took a big step backwards ditching the hard drive on the slims.
@CyberDragon10K
@CyberDragon10K 2 жыл бұрын
These are the kinds of videos I'm subbed for. Grew up with the PS2 fat though. I think it's still up in my parent's non-temperature controlled attic.
@sgentry6
@sgentry6 2 жыл бұрын
I loved the phat model with the hd loader when I was in school, since I never had a mod chip in my system. Makes me miss Blockbuster’s game pass.
@owenshark24
@owenshark24 Жыл бұрын
I grew up with the Slim model and didn’t even know that there was a larger original model until much later. I was surprised at how much bigger it was!
@tkermi
@tkermi 2 жыл бұрын
Really interesting subject, thanks!
@SpaceTheCake21
@SpaceTheCake21 2 жыл бұрын
First of all, great video ! I prefer the Slim Model. I had the old Model years ago and I had never issues with it. I sold it. Il have the Slim since 2007 and it works just fine. A friend of mine had an issue with the disktray not coming out everytime you press the button on the fat model.
@emanuelmarriott2454
@emanuelmarriott2454 2 жыл бұрын
The ps2 was a huge machine when I was younger
@basurerodej8501
@basurerodej8501 2 жыл бұрын
The PS2 Slim is probably the greatest slim revision of all time, everything can't get smaller than that (Well, except for the disc scratches, handhelds, the Genesis 3 and portable Wii's, but you get the point)
@user-ok3th3hu2c
@user-ok3th3hu2c 2 жыл бұрын
Pa3 super slim is amazing
@giovanni0620
@giovanni0620 2 жыл бұрын
The PS2 Slim was my first PlayStation, but I don’t remember if it had the power brick outside. I had the PS2 slim, GameCube and the original Xbox at the same time, I remember playing a lot of games back then with my compadre, good times. Thanks to SpawnWave for all your videos, always appreciated.
@LeadTrumpet1
@LeadTrumpet1 2 жыл бұрын
I loved my PS2 slim. I had surgery two weeks before my high school graduation and while I was having surgery, my niece spilled water on it and completely fried it (even fried a hole right through the memory card). Then she tried to blame it on the cat. I was so upset as I was planning on using my PS2 to help recover from surgery by distracting me from the pain. BestBuy just happened to have them on sale so my mom drove me to BestBuy to get it replaced.
@Uncreative1
@Uncreative1 2 жыл бұрын
It is still the most impressive "slim" console with how drastic the change in volume is.
@goldensilveraxel
@goldensilveraxel 2 жыл бұрын
I grew up with the OG model and never had any failures. (Aside from an overheating issue due to the fan clogged with dust but that was easily fixed.) As a kid I always wondered what that expansion bday was for, I usually hid my Gameboy advance inside it after stealing back from my parents a few weeks after I was grounded 😁 The controllers on the other hand were the things that kept breaking on me
@eddyalienstudio7227
@eddyalienstudio7227 2 жыл бұрын
I remember actually getting the PS2 Original on my Birthday with Jak & Daxter as my first PS2 game, it was awesome! I eventually upgraded to the Slim model but got the Sliver one which was pretty cool, reminded me of the older PSOne
@yeloham75
@yeloham75 2 жыл бұрын
Went thru a couple of the fat models then picked up the slim and loved it! I bought the joytech screen for it and took it everywhere!
@MmntechCa
@MmntechCa 2 жыл бұрын
Best PS2 was the Fat PS3. True RGB output via HDMI, HD upscaling, didn't need memory cards. Was a dark day when mine died. Man, if Sony had put out a PS3 Pro with the reliability of the Slim and a return to full PS2 back compat, I'd have been all over that.
@Thelango99
@Thelango99 2 жыл бұрын
In Europe we got true RGB through SCART on the PS2.
@Zan_Jayna
@Zan_Jayna 2 жыл бұрын
Mine died too. Yellow light of death
@crf80fdarkdays
@crf80fdarkdays 2 жыл бұрын
Have to disagree there, the PS3 had issues with a few games not working on the system. The best PS2 is a launch model compatibility wise.
@GenesHand
@GenesHand 2 жыл бұрын
Component can look just as good as RGB with the right cables. Sucks that the Fat PS3 are probably one of the most unreliable consoles ever. I hope that you didn't throw it out, now people has discovered the problem with those models and you just need to replace a couple of capacitors.
@Zan_Jayna
@Zan_Jayna 2 жыл бұрын
@@GenesHand I still have my yellow phat, losing all my game saves was the worst.
@Nathan-mu1pz
@Nathan-mu1pz 2 жыл бұрын
I've always thought the GameCube was a more impressive piece of engineering. All that power in a small form factor while running power efficient and staying cool..... Then they went with small discs 🤦🏼‍♂️
@CommodoreFan64
@CommodoreFan64 2 жыл бұрын
I love the GameCube I really do, as it allowed me to get a current console at the time cheaper than a PS2, or Xbox, but I agree the Mini non standard DVD disc Nintendo went with is what hurt the system with it not getting as much 3rd party dev support, but I still had a blast with the system, and still do with all it's great first party Nintendo games, and the 3rd party support it did get like RE4, and the RE remakes on the system. Also the Gamecube controller is still one of my favorites too this day next to the Switch Pro controllers, and XB360/XB1 layouts with staggered sticks.
@Nathan-mu1pz
@Nathan-mu1pz 2 жыл бұрын
@@CommodoreFan64 I've just started dedicating time to the GameCube library in chronological order of release with real hardware and I've been enjoying it very much. I see why people fight to the death to defend it
@dajam9035
@dajam9035 2 жыл бұрын
I can't believe that was the thing holding the game cube back....a freaking tiny disc smh
@ZackSNetwork
@ZackSNetwork 2 жыл бұрын
@@dajam9035 Not necessarily developers could have had two discs the same way they did with the Xbox 360 and very long PS2 JRPG games. Also developers ported 3rd party games from PS2 to GameCube. So games were built well for PS2 and Xbox got ports directly from the PC. The true power of the GameCube was never seen in 3rd party games only Exclusives. Which is also why it had the best looking games of the 6th generation that also aged the best.
@CommodoreFan64
@CommodoreFan64 2 жыл бұрын
@@dajam9035 I'm sorry to say there is so much ignorance in your comment, the mini non standard disc did hold back the GameCube when it was launched, as full size DVD support at the time drove console sales because not everyone had a DVD player, and high speed internet 24/7 in your pocket being able to stream anything you want was several years away, and well over a decade for many. When the PS2 launch Sony could not keep them in stock in Japan, because it was the cheapest DVD player in the country, and well over 50% of the people who bought a PS2 bought it solely for watching DVD movies. Also Nintendo charged the same amount to print the smaller disc with less storage space, as Sony, and Microsoft did for the full size DVD-ROM disc in their consoles, meaning many companies did not want to have to pay for the extra disc to be printed plus the cost of the special case to house the disc, again which cost them more not only in the printing phase, but in the time of programming a game across 2, or more disc, and it's why Nintendo never used that format again, and went with full size DVD style disc for the Wii, and full size Blu-Ray like disc for the Wii U. Also yes there was a an official Panasonic Q player that played full sized DVD as well as GameCube games only officially released in Japan that did not sell well because it was expensive(sold for about $500 USD at the time if I remember correctly),and are rare to this day even in Japan, and they need a special even more rare Gameboy player if you want to use one with it, along with a special DVD remote for it to operate fully, that tends to get lost, and are not included many times because of it when they do pop up for sale.
@carlanderson2110
@carlanderson2110 2 жыл бұрын
I had the PS2 Slim and loved it as a kid, I actually still have the system to this day and she still works. I never got the chanech to try out the origanal PS2 sadly.
@mikeoxmaul4685
@mikeoxmaul4685 2 жыл бұрын
I had the PS2 slim for 5 years during childhood. That console will always hold a special place in my heart.
@rallias1
@rallias1 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like you're giving it insufficient credit for the whole thermal aspect to the design. Sure, it's similar components, but they still had to make it reliably able to maintain temperature range.
@littlejam5984
@littlejam5984 2 жыл бұрын
I remember certain Slim Models have compatibility issues even with PS2 Games . Wich why I personally opted for a late Fat Model usually
@IcanGOwithTHEflow
@IcanGOwithTHEflow 2 жыл бұрын
Out of nowhere one day mine stopped being able to play dual layer discs
@nitrax8629
@nitrax8629 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, 7500x and later have issues with a few games.
@snoopiiii
@snoopiiii 2 жыл бұрын
If I am not mistaken: Some PS2 games made use of the PS1's processor to do some small calculations on the side. The slims after the scph 7000x all began to emulate this chip rather being something physical. Guess Sony didn't do their homework or simple thought it to be viable
@ndnixlon9548
@ndnixlon9548 4 ай бұрын
​@@snoopiiii It's the latter since it's no coincidence when Sony discontinued the production of PSone units in 2006, they instead phased out producing PSone components and opted by using an PPC based IOP to emulate the PSX CPU (PS2 IOP) to cut costs. Since the PSX CPU is now emulated in the SCPH-75XXX and later Slim models, its PSX backwards-compatibility is much worse than the Fat and SCPH-70XXX model but Sony attempted to patch / fix those issues in the later Slim models. No clue if Sony ever attempted to fix the PS2 IOP-specific issues (e.g Beyond Good and Evil) for the later models.
@snoopiiii
@snoopiiii 4 ай бұрын
@@ndnixlon9548 That makes sense but they still didn't do their homework! Hehe
@Deathbydiease
@Deathbydiease 2 жыл бұрын
I have a ps2 slim and love that unit, it still works and was taken with me to many conventions as well as swap disc moded to play imports and burned games.
@ianroberts7218
@ianroberts7218 2 жыл бұрын
Looking good, man!
@acecab5397
@acecab5397 2 жыл бұрын
Would have been funny to see a throwback image of Spawn bear mode (fat) for comparison with jacked Spawn (slim) at the beginning along with the consoles lol
@9crv
@9crv 2 жыл бұрын
Bear mode lol
@Dansoo
@Dansoo 2 жыл бұрын
I owned the slim model back in the day and the first time I saw the fat model I was like "I want the fat one cause it looks better !" Years later it's the opposite haha, it's extremely impressive how they managed to slim it down so much !
@AguFungus
@AguFungus 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheDinoKitteh That and HDD support, good for OPL.
@Daigon95
@Daigon95 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheDinoKitteh Depends on which mini-revision of the Slim model.
@DeadPhoenix86DP
@DeadPhoenix86DP 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheDinoKitteh I'm using my Slim for over 10 years. And it never damaged my disc's.
@crf80fdarkdays
@crf80fdarkdays 2 жыл бұрын
@@DeadPhoenix86DP see comment above yours.
@DeadPhoenix86DP
@DeadPhoenix86DP 2 жыл бұрын
@@crf80fdarkdays Explain?
@drunkpacman
@drunkpacman 2 жыл бұрын
This thing was awesome for long road trips as a kid! The one downside was the inverters at the time weren't all that reliable, so if you didn't save constantly you were at risk of loosing your progress
@drunkpacman
@drunkpacman 2 жыл бұрын
Also, I think one of the reasons they made the "Clam shell" a thing is because the issue of disks falling out of the tray if tipped or moved while running, rendering the CD unreadable. The OG ring of death if you will haha.
@MoistCrumpet
@MoistCrumpet Жыл бұрын
I sort of remember when I was around 12 one of my classmates threw their ps2 slim in their backpack and brought it to school with them, and we all played games on it on our last day.
@TurboExpress007
@TurboExpress007 2 жыл бұрын
Ps2 is my favorite even though I grew up with the GameCube first lol
@ZackeryGee
@ZackeryGee 2 жыл бұрын
I ended up with both actually. I bought my first ps2 around launch . A big deal for me as it was the first console I could buy as a result of my grocery store job at 16. I bought the stand that had video game case holders built in AND the EA wireless controller. (At the time it was the only Sony Certified wireless controller on the market!) Man I was stoked. Thousands of hours put on that machine. Never had any plms. Even had it network connected! (Big at the time really. Tiger Woods and Fight Night were awesome later in the ps2 life to play online) Had to eventually get a slim because that fat model got stolen in a home break-in. (Along with the backwards compatible ps3! Heartbreak) - The slim always felt cheap to me. Never had any plms with it... But I enjoyed the aesthetic of the fat girl.
@exaltedb
@exaltedb 2 жыл бұрын
6:50 there were two revisions of the EE+GS. There was the one with a heat spreader, which used a 90nm process and there was the later plastic package one, using a 65nm process 9:18 and the original fatty had both chips use heat spreaders, while the 180nm revision had the GS use a plastic package instead
@socialistprofessor3206
@socialistprofessor3206 2 жыл бұрын
Still got mine between my ps4 and Dreamcast. I loved it and always will.
@michaelchapline6960
@michaelchapline6960 2 жыл бұрын
There's plenty of ways to pack power into tiny sizes look at how much the Nintendo switch can do and although bigger in size the Xbox series s is a monster for how tiny it is
@Olterior
@Olterior 2 жыл бұрын
Not much. Its less powerful than a modern gaming phone. Honestly just look how shitty apex legends run on it
@michaelchapline6960
@michaelchapline6960 2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't know I don't play trash like apex or Fortnite or PUBG I play games with adventure story and purpose not battle royal bs
@VincentADK
@VincentADK 2 жыл бұрын
I have both of those models. I like the fat one more. Feels more sturdy to me and i like the look and the sound of it more than the slim model.
@warfare313
@warfare313 2 жыл бұрын
I had the fat since the release. But it was a non mover. My best friend had the slim, that thing we'd take everywhere we'd go. Backpack with the PS2, 2 controllers and a few games and the cables. And we'd plug it in to any tv we'd fine (shopping mall, dentist appointment, family visits). All those Jak clips bring back good memories, wish they'd get the Ratchet & Clank treatment or a new game :P
@Gaming-Enthusiast
@Gaming-Enthusiast 2 жыл бұрын
Loved this video 👌👌👌
@MrJturner74
@MrJturner74 2 жыл бұрын
They need to release a classic version of the slim with HDMI, wireless, and a hard drive instead of a disc drive.
@SLightningHedgehog
@SLightningHedgehog 2 жыл бұрын
at best try to get as much of the original chips on the board as possible so the compatibility is as high as can be, if not 100%
@MmntechCa
@MmntechCa 2 жыл бұрын
After how badly they handled the PS1 Classic, no. But I'm sure you'll see FPGA consoles before too long. Would be nice if Sony at least made old PS1 and PS2 games work/available for purchase on the PS4/PS5 via emulation. That's one of my favourite features Xbox has. But Jim Ryan sees no value in it.
@SilentHillFetishist
@SilentHillFetishist 2 жыл бұрын
Please learn how to search for converters. If you figured out that the mini video adcs (opposite of vdacs) suck, go for some in a metal housing, those are most likely good. I prefer wiring PS2 video to my AVR by an really expensive YPbPr cable and audio through fiber to prefarrably use DPL II or Neo6.
@cizd
@cizd 2 жыл бұрын
With classic consoles you probably can't make it work unless you use off the shelf hardware because you're not moving 10s of millions of units.
@MrJturner74
@MrJturner74 2 жыл бұрын
@@SLightningHedgehog In an ideal world we could get a rockstar version that had all the PS2 rockstar games on it.
@cizd
@cizd 2 жыл бұрын
I'm just sitting here wondering how hard or expensive it would have been to include PS2 hardware on the PS5 to enable backwards compatibility. If they had done that I could have dusted off my copy of SSX 3 and relived my childhood. Would have been a instant buy for me. Kind of jealous of Xbox bros who can just do that.
@shifty2755
@shifty2755 2 жыл бұрын
Don't be jealous. They won't have any exclusives to play.
@sundhaug92
@sundhaug92 2 жыл бұрын
Xbox uses software emulation, Sony could do the same (at least for PS1 and PS2) if they cared for it
@cizd
@cizd 2 жыл бұрын
@@sundhaug92 PS2 hardware was very specialized compared to Xbox 360. So PS2 emulators are generally more inaccurate.
@militariacollectablesbelgium
@militariacollectablesbelgium 2 жыл бұрын
I had the ps2 big one. After it broke down the slim version and i was so amazed how they turned it into such a small console. Good video👍👍👍
@4373fg
@4373fg 2 жыл бұрын
My friend surprised me a few years ago with a ps2 slim along with the ps2 nascar and ncaa football games. I still play it every single day
@MikeUK66
@MikeUK66 2 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for you to tear down the Switch OLED.
@jakeriffle6719
@jakeriffle6719 2 жыл бұрын
You just did tear it down. Its a Switch, with OLED haha. That's it.
@djj1
@djj1 2 жыл бұрын
Nintendon't is at least 10 years behind with tech lmao
@MikeUK66
@MikeUK66 2 жыл бұрын
@@djj1 Just like your brain is 10 years behind everyone else, the Switch is perfect for you 💪💪
@djj1
@djj1 2 жыл бұрын
@@MikeUK66 Perfect for you, Nintendon't has been trash since SNES lol
@jakeriffle6719
@jakeriffle6719 2 жыл бұрын
@@MikeUK66 Switch lacks in titles, at least for Americans. And Nintendos owned exclusives usually never come down in price below $45-$60 new. And it's not like Switch is a power house console. It's 1080p at best and 30FPS. Usually to play cartoon kiddy games.
@markvicferrer
@markvicferrer 2 жыл бұрын
The way Sony shrunk the PlayStation to the PS One was good, but this was truly impressive. Really appreciate how they went away from the motorized tray - never liked them.
@cd-lf8xm
@cd-lf8xm 2 жыл бұрын
Love the vid - the shrinking is easier than what we thought huh
@timmadone8930
@timmadone8930 2 жыл бұрын
I got the PS2 slim at launch & it still works today. I've never taken it apart so I imagine there is a lot of dust inside. But it still plays games, cd's, & DVD's without a problem. And it's had a lot of use. After 17 years though, I'm sure it's days are numbered.
@rosstee
@rosstee 9 ай бұрын
Just unscrew the base and get rid of the dust (and change the clock battery at the same time) it's all really easy on the slim (check a video guide). Then it will last a lot longer. I still have mine I bought brand new as well and it's working fine, I haven't opened it yet but I've always kept it clean so I don't think it's bad inside.
@SergKhrypun
@SergKhrypun 2 жыл бұрын
PS2 was janky af, but also super impressive during first part of lifetime.
@NonsensicalSpudz
@NonsensicalSpudz 2 жыл бұрын
yeah it was quite janky now that I think about it
@SergKhrypun
@SergKhrypun 2 жыл бұрын
NonsensicalVids Word, every game had something happening with it lol. Second part of a console’s lifetime - it was even shame to pull it out. Cuz PCs got so powerful.
@NonsensicalSpudz
@NonsensicalSpudz 2 жыл бұрын
@@SergKhrypun however still one of the best times of games a long with 360
@awesomeferret
@awesomeferret 2 жыл бұрын
Calling it "janky" at any point in its lifespan would be extremely subjectively at best. Care to elaborate on what was no doubt an unlucky experience? I say this as someone who had their first PS2 scratch some of their first games, I'm not pretending they are perfect, but that's a very minor issue as far as issues go especially considering the next gen issues with the Xbox 360 and PS3. It's one thing to have laser pickups fail that you can replace yourself in less than an hour, it's another to have "general hardware failures" that even the manufacturer takes a year or more to figure out. Again, I'm very curious to hear what you mean by "janky" since the PS2 is nearly objectively less "janky" than the consoles that came after it.
@SergKhrypun
@SergKhrypun 2 жыл бұрын
awesomeferret Hi, PS2 was like too heavy. Surface had scratched super quick at made it look like a random black box lol. Being janky I mostly talk in a graphics/performance way. Resolution was always low or frame dips etc. GTA San Andreas was downgraded a lot from the PC version. Controller got some joystick drift and so on. Enjoyed the hell out of the console, but all type of odd jank was also included. 🙌🏻🙏🏻
@MidnightMechanic
@MidnightMechanic 2 жыл бұрын
I think they learned a lot from the PS1, removing the power supply is a huge space saver. If you compare the boards between the PS1 and original, there's also not much difference, but they squeezed every square inch they could.
@holzwurm_hd7029
@holzwurm_hd7029 2 жыл бұрын
I shared a slim with my dad and i remember wanting the fat model because my cousin had one. Now i like the slim more because it's one of my favorite old systems AND IT FITS INTO MY GOD DAMN POCKETS
@DARKSHREK000
@DARKSHREK000 2 жыл бұрын
Fkn love Daddy Spawn's videos.
@Smarach0
@Smarach0 2 жыл бұрын
I had the big PS2 and it ran fine for hours and hours, my friend had PS2 slim and it overheated and shut down after 1-2h of playing, he had to put plastic sheets in freezer and put in on PS2 so it could run an hour or two longer. I'm happy with the big version
@crf80fdarkdays
@crf80fdarkdays 2 жыл бұрын
Haha that's such a bad idea putting frozen stuff near a warm PCB
@gojolumo
@gojolumo 2 жыл бұрын
I have both and never had a problem. Maybe the ventilation wasn't working probably
@SillyHorse99
@SillyHorse99 2 жыл бұрын
I had the last slim and never have problems with overheating, and playing gran turismo 4 for hours. Maybe his fan stoped working. Now i have a FAT because its beautiful lol
@Bozzyshy
@Bozzyshy 2 жыл бұрын
Less games work on the slim and in my experience they break way easier. Love the phat model
@8bitsamurai6
@8bitsamurai6 Жыл бұрын
That expansion was the key to some sweet homebrew action. Loved my ps2. And you could fix them pretty easy.
@nintendoandrew01
@nintendoandrew01 2 жыл бұрын
I have both and I love them each for their own different reasons. The slim seems like it would be easier to conceal, but the fact that the space needed for the disk door to open is so large, it can only be concealed in certain space applications, while the fat can theoretically be concealed easier because it doesn't require such a massive footprint for that stupid door to open. For most things, I prefer the fat model, but sitting here at my desk, I have my slim plugged into my monitor on top of my PS4 and the fat is in my living room with the TV...it gets used a lot more than the slim.
@awesomeferret
@awesomeferret Жыл бұрын
You are big brain. Seriously though, I wish I had thought of that. Very good point. That's one of those "I knew that most of my life but it never actively occured to me until now" things.
@DarkTyyp
@DarkTyyp 2 жыл бұрын
PS2 Slim looking weak compared to John and his bulging muscles 💪😤
@obidahasdia4095
@obidahasdia4095 10 ай бұрын
*I have ps2 since 2007 & bought one in 2009 cause i couldnt afford a ps3 at the time it still works after 16 years im gonna buy new one soon sealed cause it will stay with you for almost all of your life its worthy super reliable*
@victorribeiro6772
@victorribeiro6772 2 жыл бұрын
The big one I had would always crash and need inner repairs... The slim one actually fell a high hight followed by an old ''box'' tv right on top of it and it still works till this day, it's insane what this design achieved and how durable it was (at least mine)
@jeremyharshe2337
@jeremyharshe2337 2 жыл бұрын
Clever pull revealing the slim behind the fat model. Perfection 👍🏻
@lightsubterfuge
@lightsubterfuge Жыл бұрын
I actually grew up with both systems. I had the fat model first, then I got a white PS2 slim. The fat model ended up being sold at a family garage sale some time later. Lots of good memories on this console!
@JefferyQuinoa
@JefferyQuinoa 2 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this
@nightowl3582
@nightowl3582 2 жыл бұрын
Still have mine. I was blown away by how small it was when I unboxed it back then.
@jimjam4082
@jimjam4082 2 жыл бұрын
I had bought the PS2 fat when i was 17 back in 2001. Had that and a N64, and a dreamcast. The PS2 was by far my favorite of the 3. It had an amazing library of games, great visuals for the time. Played DVD's as well. Had the DVD remote for the system and a subscription to netflix that mailed me out DVD's to watch. That was a big sell for me too, DVD players back then ran around the same price as the PS2. It was way cheaper to get it all in one.
@AlexRuy
@AlexRuy 2 жыл бұрын
Loved so much my ps2 slim because I used to go to friend's places and it was extremely easy to transport.
@michaelalessi9437
@michaelalessi9437 2 жыл бұрын
Thats my console!! I remember playing the ps2 all day when I first got it. The ATV series were my favorite
@BKDDY
@BKDDY Ай бұрын
There was a recall on certain PS2 slim power supplys. So probably good that they did the revision to put the power back inside the slim
@drkmagneto
@drkmagneto 2 жыл бұрын
I had the older model and bought “SOCOM US NAVY SEALS”, which came with the network adapter that it lacked
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