To clean "dried out" LM you apply a fresh drop of LM and that will liquify it again. Allowing you to remove it easily with cotton, If you use Alcohol it makes a reaction and the LM goes black.

Quick tip to avoid stripping threads: Screw in REVERSE while applying light pressure until you feel the threads "click", then screw FORWARDS and your threads will be perfectly aligned. I use this for everything, even drink bottle lids lol.

As a materials scientist, I would like everyone to understand that the liquid metal did not "dry out" in the usual sense. It reacted with the metal of the heat sink (primarily, from the look of it. The surface of the chip looks basically ok) and what you see on the chip is a residual solid metal of a new composition. It will not be possible to remove the reacted material from the heat sink, as this is incorporated into the heat sink and is in fact an alloy of the heat sink metal and the liquid metal. It may still be possible to use another type of thermal paste to bridge the air gap. This should not be a problem with the PS5 system as it was designed with compatible materials or coatings to enable the use of a liquid metal for thermal contact. One concern would be that as this reaction takes place the thermal contact should/could have been greatly reduced. It is a good thing that this PS4 wasn't used that much.

I bought a used PS4 about 4 years ago and the prices are roughly the same or even more in some cases.

I remember when you put liquid metal in this thing! Can't wait to see how it turned out. I actually didn't think there'd be a follow up video lol

I thought about getting a PS4 Pro when I had my PS4 slim. I'm glad that I never got the PS4 Pro in the end and was happy to wait until I was able to get a PS5 late last year. It's great being able to access the PS4 Pro versions of the PS4 games that I own and the difference in picture quality between between what I can see whilst playing games on my PS4 compared to the PS4 slim I used to own is night and day. The boosted framerates for certain titles is also an added bonus.

Same thing happened to the IHS of my 3950X when I put liquid metal on it a year ago. After cleaning it as much as I could, I noticed that the etching of the model etc on the IHS was gone.

This is the video I’ve been waiting for! I changed my compound because of your first video!

I feel like they made cooling or fan improvements over time, as my late generation PS4 Pro is remarkably quiet. Certainly not the jet engine I've often heard talked about (like my original model base PS4 with certain games, heh).

One of the things I did to cool my ps4 pro was made a custom vent on the area where the fan is(similar to what xbox did with the xbox one and xbox one s) and it did help cool it down by 10+ degrees

I recently did a full clean and repasting of my launch ps4, I replaced the thermal pads too. It went from sounding like a jet engine on almost every game to being quieter than my gaming laptop under load. I couldn't believe it. Performance didn't seem to change much but at least it isn't struggling to expell heat anymore.

Great video Jon, I may find purpose for my pro again since I do not intend to fight for a ps5 as things stand currently! An SSD will be fun to install and feel a decent enough difference

the main thing i expected from this video was benchmarking, 4 year old liquid metal temps vs stock or fresh regular thermal paste. video is what it is but I don't think that I was the only one anticipating those things.

Great video! Does the PS4 Slim use SATA 2? Or is it just in the original model of the PS4?

I simply just cleaned my PS4 Pro every few months with duster and a vacuum cleaner to get rid of dust. I never had an issue with the fan being too loud. Also, I kept my PS4 Pro in a well-ventilated area so the heat coming out of the back wasn't blocked.

I'm a bit curious as to whether the LM residue will reduce the thermal conductivity of the IHS and Heatsink assembly, at the interface point. even with fresh proper compound, it feels to me like the LM residue would interfere.. Any thoughts on this? any chance of a followup video?

After you've done homebrew and what not ..can u make a video documenting ur use of it and how u been enjoying it

From my experience, copper seems to fuse , plated with liquidmetal . It's impossible to remove liquidmetal stain on copper using acetone or alcohol. When I googled about it I found out it is not so good idea to apply liquid metal(Gallium based) on bare aluminum or copper. It seems Copper heatsink would need to be coated with another metal (like nickel)

I'm not sure about other iterations of the ps4, but with the pro it actually has a third USB slot in the back that's a lot more forgiving in space when it comes to chunkier USB drives

I did mine in march 2019 (Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut Liquid Metal). In January 2022 my PS4 Pro was immediately in airplane mode (fan at full speed) when I loaded in my save game from Horizon Zero Dawn. I knew my cooling was compromised because normaly it stayed two sound levels lower (stock paste is only one level lower). Disassembled my Playstation 4 Pro and it looked just like yours: dry. I sanded it down (only slightly, to make sure the surface is flat) with some sandpaper 1000 grit. Reapplied Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut Liquid Metal and it's nice and quiet again.

A small trick i did for the LM not to run around i used thermal paste around the edge and in the middle droped the LM giving it no chance to run around worked well and saw a significant drop in operating temp

Noting the color of the heatsink on the die gives me an idea what may have happened. I keep hearing that liquid metal does not like copper, and that heatsink does look like copper. According to what I've been hearing, if the heatsink was aluminum, the compound would still be liquid.

So is dry LM good if you don't separate the die from the heatsink again, or does it not conduct Temps well anymore like normal paste?

Liquid metal combines with copper, it didn't dry it became one with the copper and the solid copper became one with the liquid.

Happy New Year

I took the top cover off my ps4 pro and now the fan never revs up. Ive been contemplating drilling fan holes through the cover or cutting a square over the fan and attatching a vent.

I like how this video is so insanely old that the spring sale was still going on during it's filming. That's crazy

Liquid metal is pretty fascinating I'll admit that. Going on about the SSD though, I've had a 2TB SSD inside of my PS4 Pro for about three years now, and I could never go back to a mechanical hard drive that's sluggish. Samsung SSDs are definitely worth the money if you have it.

the timing is so funny, in a few hours i'll receive a ps4 pro my and my partner bought on a second hand website because of the 9.00 jailbreak release, I'm here waiting for the shipping company to deliver it and i see this, amazing!!

So in revisiting this PS4 mod, it became an experiment on the effects of Liquid Metal over time. As you stated, it went well for this instance, but potentially could have been worse.

Just got delivered my PS5 this morning with Miles and Ratchet bundled, got lucky and found one online here in the UK, been using the Series X and S for a few months, around Christmas I got the feeling a wanted a PS for some of their exclusives like Spidey, love the dual sense and funny looking at both the Series X and Ps5 standing vertically beside each other lol

Right before the PS5 release, say 3-4 months, prices for the PS4 had reached $100, and the PS4 PRO had reached $150. Now with the supply & demand issues, PS4 has reached $200, while PS4 Pro has reached $245-$320 used here in Japan. I'd assume homebrew is going to jack up the prices even further.

cool PS shirt. I like the faded look. whered you get it from brother

Cant believe that one vid was 3 years ago already... Time sure does fly

That's a cool shirt with the faded logo where'd you get it?

I noticed the ssd helping with load times back on the ps3. When the ps4 came out I’d actually zone into instances and be on mic before ps4 users with my ps3. Never bothered with a ssd in the pro but I think I may have to now!

It's kind of crazy how even a basic PS4 is still going for at least $200 and up on the secondhand market.

@spawn wave cool tshirt where did you get it from

Funny. Came here again after your recent vid on a possible design flaw with the PS5 starting to show up when placed vertical, with liquid metal leaking. I think this may explain recent problems with my own launch unit where it’s been overheating and crashing regularly, and even fried the ssd expansion I had placed in it. I play a lot though. I ended up just replacing the unit as I was well beyond warraunty, but I would be curious if this was indeed the issue. It would make sense. And I suspect Sony knows more than they are letting on as we enter out rumored 4th redesign internally with a potential removable disc drive coming up. People had speculated on overheating as a potential reason Sony delayed enabling the ssd expansion for so long, and I’m curious if these are related.

I seen some people suggesting thermal padding on the ram modules as well. Not sure if that makes a difference but guess they can probably get somewhat hot as they are GDDR5 modules and know some mini PC:s right now sorta like to have stuff like that on the ram and nvme drive.

I'm wondering how you got that apart without removing the PSU and disc drive....

The problem with the PS4 cooling is there are two fan variants, one spews dust into a crevice next to the fan and the other spews it directly into the heatsink. The dust builds up overtime and that's why you get PS4's that get very loud. If you are unfortunate enough to get the second fan (like I was) then cleaning it out every now and again (heatsink and all) will completely negate the problem. I have pictures of fully caked heatsinks and video clips of a whisper quiet PS4 PRO running God of War in an area that would normally make it fly off.

Do you have a link for that ssd?

One specific game? Totally get it - I ended up grabbing a used PS4 Pro off of eBay, threw in an 860 Evo and restored it.... specifically to play Ys IX: Monstrum Nox. I'm a huge fan of the series (it's up there with Zelda and Tales for me) and there and I really really really didn't want to wait another 6-8 months for the PC release to drop when it came out early 2021. My plan had been to trade it in towards a PS5 once they became available again but yeah we all know how that turned out. But then again the free titles through PS Plus have also been a really nice thing to have as well

there is a usb port on the back if your stick is too big for the front.

Damm, I didn't think you'd actually make a follow up video on this.

There is one USB port at the back of PS4 Pro which you can use without USB extender

Copper is strong, but it reacts with aluminum and can deteriorate the other metal. I'm not sure what liquid metal is made of, but maybe try something with neverseize

Love my PS4 Pro! Still an amazing console. I have had mine since 2018 and no hiccups and no T-1000 liquid metal needed.

I also play on PC mostly. I have my PS4 Pro for Spiderman, Sakura Wars, and Persona 5 Royal. Have a Switch for its exclusives as well.

Im still using a ps4 pro , it's my streaming machine here in 2022!! I just repasted it yesterday , with some tm-30 and it's running like a champ. I also have a Samsung 860 evo ssd ..thing is Years old and runs literally brand new still lol

Had a launch Pro that was like an old vacuum 3-4 minutes into starting any game on it, luckily was able to get rid of it when there was a shortage for what I paid, and then I picked up the Red Dead 2 bundle, that one was always pretty quiet up until I sold it right after getting a 5.

Still have my launch PS4 Pro. Packed it away a few months ago after getting the PS5 finally. Might consider modding it one day but for right now my PS3 Mods are covering most of the emulation I want done.

How do people damage the shell?

i didn't realize the ps4 was released that long ago.. i got my pro about 3 years ago. i just put an 870 EVO in it. it was running so slow. it's nice & quick now. it'll have to do until i can get a digital ps5.

LM is great for use on nickel plated copper heatspreaders. NOT on copper plated aluminum heatsinks. On pure copper heatsinks the gallium diffuses into the copper leaving behind the indium and tin which both provide poor thermal contact and can cause shorts if they break free due to vibration. Plus, you'll have to reapply regularly to maintain proper thermal contact. With copper plated aluminum, that gallium diffuses through the copper and will attack the aluminum. As time goes on in either case you'll have degrading thermals and a system that will die sooner than if you had just stuck to paste. Do not use LM unless the system was designed for it or your components are made of the proper materials to handle it.

The ps4 is still valuable because it’s hard for people to get the next gen consoles and there are still a lot of cross gen games that are coming out currently. So many games have been delayed that games that started development with the ps4/Xbox one in mind are coming out this year, and they’re gonna be on the old and new consoles. It might not be as good on the ps4, but if you want to play some of these games this is probably the easiest way right now. A lot of people are deciding to pick up a ps4 instead of getting a ps5 so the value has held up really well.

If you get a PS4 Pro invest in an SSD (solid state drive) and change out the stock hard disk drive (HDD). There's plenty of guides on here and on the internet, its very easy to do it by yourself. Don't throw it out, stash it somewhere in case you sell the console later on. It'll improve load times by a good amount nothing miraculous but you'll see 👍

Now you will get the familiar jet engine sound while gaming under load.

I think like paste it will have to be replied in the future if you notice temps increase with fan noise.

So my question is, when the liquid metal is dried, would it not dry in a configuration that allows good heat transfer? Or once it’s dry it loses its efficiency? Also I just sold my PS4 (launch day) for $325 with a few old games which boggles my mind.

the way you took out the disc hurt my soul man lol

I've been thinking about changing the Thermal paste and thermal pads on my day 1 1000 series PS4, what Thermal Pads would you recommend and what thickness? I haven't been able to find any info on the Thermal pads

i hear that the liquid metal changes to some kinda copper alloy and if you dont scrap off the layer by the copper it will not happen again, and stay liquid.

Last night I was playing forbidden west and I was farming materials. Well I went to do a manual save and the screen went dark (as it does to transition to the save files) but it stayed dark for like 15-20 seconds and then my ps4 shut down. I've never had that happen. Did it overheat?? I'm currently looking into thermal paste, a new fan. Cooling pads but can someone shed some light on What happend? And what I can do for better temp controll?

I hear people talking a lot about ps4 noises and whatnot but I never had any issues honestly. But I did have a marble top in which the console sat on. This could be why I've never had any issues with fan noises and all that

Hello and you will see what happens after this time in xbox one x?

My PS4 Pro still sounds like it's going to rocket into orbit. It's so loud I can barely hear my games. I've changed the thermal paste twice (I used the Arctic Blue) and still the same problem. I'm thinking it's the fan maybe.

Next time try putting twisted metal in it 😈

bought an ssd for my ps4 pro yesterday hopefully it will load games slightly faster

Why you got to grab that disc like that now if that game if it goes somewhere else it's potentially scratched or someone will scratch it trying to get your fingerprints off

I solved the noise problem on my pro by getting rid of those tiny black pads pressing on the chips and replacing them with thermal grizzly thermal pads that covered each chip completely.

I bought a used one a month ago. I paid right about what they cost new. Took it apart and cleaned out the dust, and applied new Arctic 5 thermal compound and a 1TB SSD. I usually buy a console right at the end of the lifecycle, but they never went on sale and just disappeared from shelves suddenly this time.

My Spider-man ps4 pro won't turn on and I don't know what I need to replace is it my ac cord pr power supply?

Does it help with the cooling if i swap the thermal pads with a drop of thermal paste?

Damn I can't believe it's been 3 years already

I remember from the spawncast, Evan really wanted to play FF7 Remake.

Never EVER would use liquid metal in PC, console or anything else, COMPLETELY unrequired.

Some fine steel wool cleans copper real good

Liquid metal is just gallium right or is it some alloy?

What's the like l link for the playstation firmware

The sad thing for consoles is that Xboxes are limited to SATA 2 and Playstation consoles are connected via USB 3.0 bus to SATA...so, being SATA 3 will only allow to fully saturate the USB 3.0 bus that connects to a SATA converter (Learned about it when fail0verflow talked about the PS4)

Bought my PS4 Pro 6 mos before PS5 came out. Console shortage was so bad I overpaid above MSRP. But the console shortage has somehow gotten even worse and it seems like I can still sell it used for what I paid for it new. And I still use the PS4 Pro when my main room w PS5 is occupied (albeit rarely). So I am incentivized to hold onto both PS4 Pro & PS5. And this is why there’s a shortage.

Don't know what why of this means. Love the video

So what thickness are the thermal pads? 1mm?

This got me thinking... What does this mean for future conservation of the PS5 consoles? Wouldn't it be safe to say that say 5+ years down the line the liquid metal would be insufficient for cooling due to crusting over, so without replacing it properly wouldn't pretty much all ps5's have a sort of death sentence almost like the CMOS issue? Because simply put not everyone will be able to replace their liquid metal. Thank you. Happy new years!

Just want to say, it hurts me how he held spiderman when he took it out of the console. Why you no put a finger on either side of the cd? or one in the middle? Fingerprints on the back hurt my soul :'(

The price did not drop only went up since th jb 9.00 couple of weeks... in my country all those with 9.00 or bellow went up twice+ in price in like 2-3 weeks...

Bought both mine used at just above $200, had to shop a bit. One I got about 6 months back the other a couple years. The launch one I paid full price. Would’ve bought a PS5 by now if they had them at retail. Won’t pay scalpers who intentionally manipulate the market. Rather leave them holding them bag when production finally catches up. I mod most my consoles when the reach EOS.

I have decent gaming pc (3080 / 5900x / 64GB) but still use my PS4 pro regularly, as you can keep sitting on the couch and switch from Netflix to gaming and back to Netflix again seamlessly.

I got the PS4 pretty late in the game, and I’m kind of an older gamer so I like the nostalgia of 8-16 indie titles, so that’s where a lot of my gaming time goes. But as for current (at the time) AAA titles I only have Spider-Man and FF7R. So I like your friend

Thought you were talking about a metal gear character in the title lol

I just got a PS4 Pro about a week ago and swapped the hard drive for a SSD and it asked for the update file of 9.03 or later.

I just am blown away that PS4 pro are selling for near the original price now! Even GameStop as of January 2022 is paying over 300 in credit for them.

Wasn't that the liquid metal video you did when your Xbox stole the car and tore ass out of there or something?

There are more then 1 version of the PS4 Pros. The one I have is very quiet, but my friends model is very loud with the fan. You can see the difference as they use a different power cable.

Not as many have ps5 since scalpers and difficulty finding them out in the wild. With that people are still having to get the ps4 and the demand is high enough still.

I have had a 860 evo in my ps4 pro for almost 2 years. It’s still a snappy console but I use my ps5 now adays.

12:26 doesn't it have a USB slot in the back?

As a PC/Xbox gamer, I was drawn to a PS4 for Spider-man, God Of War, and Persona 5. It's a good console.