Here's Why Biden Needs to Step Aside | Will's Take

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The Bulwark

7 күн бұрын

Will Saletan breaks down the Democrats' response to Joe Biden's shaky debate performance, and where to go from here.
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@TysonQuick
@TysonQuick 5 күн бұрын
Trump should step down.
@gregallen485
@gregallen485 5 күн бұрын
Absolutely but he won't. Let's deal with realities here rather then wish casting.
@ridethecurve55
@ridethecurve55 5 күн бұрын
Then he should be 'stepped down'. Bigly.
@patrisshajones4121
@patrisshajones4121 5 күн бұрын
Our minds run on the same channel.
@paulawilliams-wd5xx
@paulawilliams-wd5xx 5 күн бұрын
I like you guys, but, you're wrong about OUR PRESIDENT. STAY STRONG JOE
@craigellis0
@craigellis0 5 күн бұрын
Yes, he should. But he won't. He is on the verge of winning in November.
@delanaveirs3411
@delanaveirs3411 5 күн бұрын
Trump needs to step down
@benroberts2222
@benroberts2222 5 күн бұрын
Both/and
@patrisshajones4121
@patrisshajones4121 5 күн бұрын
They say that great minds think alike.
@terryarmstrong8598
@terryarmstrong8598 5 күн бұрын
Not going to happen.
@amandab3738
@amandab3738 5 күн бұрын
As if the psycho would.
@danishbiochem
@danishbiochem 5 күн бұрын
from what?
@deboraz455
@deboraz455 5 күн бұрын
One more thing to consider...Biden had a bad debate night and trump is a bad person and there's a huge difference between those two.
@charlescrick9931
@charlescrick9931 5 күн бұрын
I’m voting for Biden Trump needs to step down
@lisalisa20907
@lisalisa20907 4 күн бұрын
I agree, but One of the many things I hate about Trump is the lying. I truly love Joe Biden and believe he’s the best president of my lifetime and I am a senior citizen. But if the reporting is true that he is more frequently having this episodes, we need honesty from him and his circle, I will never vote for Trump, no matter what. I think we should consider supporting Harris
@jaymum23
@jaymum23 3 күн бұрын
@@lisalisa20907The reporting is false. The media is rigging the election for tRump. It makes them money.
@kirkwagner461
@kirkwagner461 5 күн бұрын
For ME, this doesn't matter. I'll vote for whoever the Dems put up, simply because they aren't Trump. I would literally vote for a literal pile of poo before Trump. Because I trust a pile of poo more than Trump. However, I am not the undecideds in our country. (Frankly, I'm not sure there CAN be undecideds, but that's another question.) For them, I think they may lack confidence in Biden. Moving to, for example, Harris, may be the correct move. Meanwhile I will vote for vomit before Trump. For acute appendicitus before Trump. For the abolishment of pineapple on pizza before Trump, and that's a hard one for me as I really like pineapple on pizza. Have I made myself clear? Signed, a former Reagan Republican turned Independant.
@therealking6202
@therealking6202 5 күн бұрын
Harris will undoubtedly lose. There is zero chance of a win with her... I'm a Democrat, and I don't even want to vote for her as President. VP is fine, and I voted for Hillary and Barack... But I wouldn't feel comfortable voting for Harris.
@wthomas5697
@wthomas5697 5 күн бұрын
That's the fundamental issue. The fact that undecideds are turning away from Biden. Understandably.
@c.m.r.6509
@c.m.r.6509 5 күн бұрын
@@therealking6202well, she is now beating Biden in a matchup against trump…. Go figure
@tschorsch
@tschorsch 5 күн бұрын
@@therealking6202 She would still be infinitely better than Trump, or any other Republican.
@delanaveirs3411
@delanaveirs3411 5 күн бұрын
Most people feel this way but it’s way to far in the hand to elect a new person & it will defeat us but so will entertaining having Biden step down
@mybachhertzbaud3074
@mybachhertzbaud3074 5 күн бұрын
My take on it is, It is entirely up to President Biden to decide if he wants the job and my only decision is whether to support him. VOTE Biden/Harris. 🤔
@scottblackson5606
@scottblackson5606 5 күн бұрын
When my mother was losing her vision and her mental capacities at 80, WE--HER CHILDREN made the decision to take her car keys. It would have been a crime to allow HER to make that decision.
@Repdem
@Repdem 5 күн бұрын
@@mybachhertzbaud3074 I am so glad President Biden is working hard for America and Americans and leading a competent and ethical administration. I'd vote for President Biden in a coma before I would support the Cheato Mussolini.
@joejohnson6327
@joejohnson6327 5 күн бұрын
@@scottblackson5606 Precisely. We're supposed to trust the judgment of a disoriented, barely verbal man who said he beat Medicaid?!
@joejohnson6327
@joejohnson6327 5 күн бұрын
@@Repdem You're not an undecided voter from a swing state, your enthusiasm doesn't matter.
@EdLove-cp1xs
@EdLove-cp1xs 5 күн бұрын
For people who are rock solid in their support of Biden, this isn’t about you. It’s about the voters who have been on the fence. The ones needed to push Biden’s numbers high enough to overcome the shenanigans Trump’s minions are playing to give Trump the Electoral College. The game was, convince the independents Biden isn’t too old. The game now is, convince the Democrats Biden isn’t too old.
@JayeHickey
@JayeHickey 4 күн бұрын
The convicted felon needs to step down. Get a grip.
@ssthapit
@ssthapit 3 күн бұрын
How do you the Dems plan to do that?
@user-tu4rn8ui9u
@user-tu4rn8ui9u 5 күн бұрын
Remember when all Republicans called for Reagan -- who had Alzheimer's in the White House -- to step aside? Me either.
@chrisocony
@chrisocony 5 күн бұрын
I think you have Alzheimer's with this comparison.
@moby2668
@moby2668 5 күн бұрын
They kept it a better secret during the election.
@pcoleman1971
@pcoleman1971 5 күн бұрын
Exactly. Reagan showed significant mental decline, and was a terrible President, but I don't remember anyone calling for him to resign.
@johnrains2339
@johnrains2339 5 күн бұрын
Two wrongs don’t make a right. GOP’s mistake on Reagan should not create permission for Democrats to keep Biden
@glennmaillard5972
@glennmaillard5972 5 күн бұрын
@@chrisoconyI think you missed the humour, mate.
@andrewhaag2422
@andrewhaag2422 5 күн бұрын
Trump is the one that needs to STEP DOWN !!
@BooksForever
@BooksForever 5 күн бұрын
Criminals tend not to honor requests like that.
@williepete45
@williepete45 5 күн бұрын
@@BooksForever doesn't mean we shouldn't be demanding it
@BooksForever
@BooksForever 5 күн бұрын
@@williepete45we demand that at the ballot box like we did in 2020… and look at Trump’s willingness to comply.
@williepete45
@williepete45 5 күн бұрын
@@BooksForever People need to be reminded that he is a criminal. So never stop saying it.
@moby2668
@moby2668 5 күн бұрын
I think we would do both.
@dalehamon4295
@dalehamon4295 5 күн бұрын
Biden gets my vote. Vote Blue America 🇺🇸
@moby2668
@moby2668 5 күн бұрын
Biden gets my vote even though I think some days he is incapable of doing the job effectively due to his age.. Unfortunately, young and swing voters will expect more from their president, or they won't vote.
@tschorsch
@tschorsch 5 күн бұрын
The Democratic candidate gets my vote. If it's Biden, Harris or whoever, it almost doesn't matter.
@ClaytonBanes
@ClaytonBanes 4 күн бұрын
We're all voting the same here. Thank you, Will.
@Roscn-dn36
@Roscn-dn36 5 күн бұрын
Tell the criminal Trump to step down!!
@max_skim-pontoon-cough
@max_skim-pontoon-cough 5 күн бұрын
Trump #1. He no step down. He friend Kim and Xi
@anthonybrent6428
@anthonybrent6428 5 күн бұрын
The Bulwark has been doing that for 8 years. Chill.
@joymattson8549
@joymattson8549 4 күн бұрын
@@anthonybrent6428 Maybe you should get more excited.
@anthonybrent6428
@anthonybrent6428 4 күн бұрын
@@joymattson8549 about what? Joe Biden's hubris marching us into authoritarianism?
@hjhjhjhj6611
@hjhjhjhj6611 4 күн бұрын
He'll listen to you. I hear he is in YOUR cult.
@chrisannegalvez4449
@chrisannegalvez4449 5 күн бұрын
Leave Joe alone....
@MarilynTalk
@MarilynTalk 5 күн бұрын
12:03 Exactly. They are need to shut up. I liked this guy before. He is very wrong. I believe we all support Joe Biden more now. We do not want con man Trump.
@crl7413
@crl7413 5 күн бұрын
I vote for Joe. 💙
@khart1825
@khart1825 5 күн бұрын
Yeah, tell Joe to quit now? May as well just hand it over to the convicted felon. NO thanks.
@carolconlon704
@carolconlon704 5 күн бұрын
A vote for Joe would be a vote for the pos.
@BooksForever
@BooksForever 5 күн бұрын
Putin favors Joe as Trump’s opponent. Let that sink in. Putin favors American weakness.
@bobfunck6749
@bobfunck6749 5 күн бұрын
Maybe you are not looking at the polls. 70% of registered voters say he doesn't have the cognitive ability to be president for another 4 years. 70%!!! And did you not really watch the content of the video?!! Polls say Harris is ALREADY even w Biden in a head to head w Trump. And Whitmer, Newsome, etc are right there only a tick or two behind. Polls say Biden is very unpopular, right there in the same league as Trump. Why not replace him with a young, fresh, energetic, likeable alternative. Its called evidence. What u got?
@jamesclark4746
@jamesclark4746 5 күн бұрын
I think if Biden stays in he’ll lose 40 states. I say this as a Biden fan.
@anthonybrent6428
@anthonybrent6428 4 күн бұрын
That's happening already.
@billjoynes3433
@billjoynes3433 5 күн бұрын
Not sure what the answer is.. except that Donald Trump cannot get back in the White House !!
@nonewherelistens1906
@nonewherelistens1906 4 күн бұрын
That is the answer. I'll vote for a corpse before I vote for Trump.
@kirkmartin4005
@kirkmartin4005 5 күн бұрын
Ok I was a Bernie Bro, but I voted for Biden, and I have not been disappointed as a matter fact, I've been pleasantly surprised, he has done a good job as president, but in my opinion he made two mistakes, his choice for Vice president, and his pic of Attorney General, if Biden was the step down and hand the rains too, Kamala, we would lose, and his choice of Garland as an attorney general was a mistake. The man is too weak. He should've been far more aggressive on everyone involved in January 6, including the politicians that were involved. Don't get me wrong Kamala would be a far better President than Trump will ever be but this country is still too racist and two chauvinistic.
@MacAdamyAwards
@MacAdamyAwards 5 күн бұрын
*Rein* in
@delanaveirs3411
@delanaveirs3411 5 күн бұрын
If he steps down we nominate Kamals Harris so maybe just let him run! Y’all are letting fear cloud your judgment! You afraid Trumps going to win then back Biden!!!
@HughJasol
@HughJasol 5 күн бұрын
Same here, I was definitely feeling the Bern. Biden has done much better than I would have hoped
@annemarr8096
@annemarr8096 5 күн бұрын
Yep
@lorrie2878
@lorrie2878 5 күн бұрын
Well said.
@chrismoe1646
@chrismoe1646 5 күн бұрын
I know the best way to beat Donald. VOTE FOR JOE BIDEN!!!!
@curtisevans4100
@curtisevans4100 5 күн бұрын
You need to talk to the for Biden voters who are voting for Trump.
@moby2668
@moby2668 5 күн бұрын
My fear is that there are not enough voters who believe Trump is an existential threat to make them vote for Biden. Swing voters by definition will need to believe Biden is 100% on his game to cast a vote for him.
@willchristie2650
@willchristie2650 5 күн бұрын
You and 30% of the electorate.
@tschorsch
@tschorsch 5 күн бұрын
If Biden is the nominee in November, you're right, but it's not clear that the know-nothing independents will see it that way.
@gregallen485
@gregallen485 5 күн бұрын
@@curtisevans4100 I'm not worried about Biden voters switching to Trump. I'm also not worried about Biden supporters being so upset with Biden stepping aside that they won't vote for whoever he endorses. I AM worried about them thinking he's not up to the task and staying home along with the double haters. Or worse, the folks on the fence voting for Trump because Biden seems past his prime.
@zpasternack171
@zpasternack171 5 күн бұрын
Will you guys over at Bulwark effing stop it already. Biden has been a damn good president, he stands head and shoulders over Trump, and he'll be reelected. Get a spine, you guys, get to work, and stop undercutting him.
@bobfunck6749
@bobfunck6749 5 күн бұрын
Maybe staying the course is the spineless choice, since it doesn't require doing anything. Have u even looked at the polls? Do u still underestimate the idiocy of our electorate after all this time? The polls don't support ur position that Biden will win. Bidens has done a great job as president, but that has nothing to do with current perception or future performance. And cognitive acuity doesn't get better w age. It gets worse. It's called evidence. Maybe u should try it.
@steveninsinna1743
@steveninsinna1743 4 күн бұрын
100 percent....
@pmawst
@pmawst 4 күн бұрын
Well said!! Vote for Biden 2024!! 💙🇺🇸💙🇺🇸💙🇺🇸💙
@paulamackinnon3262
@paulamackinnon3262 4 күн бұрын
Yes, this is SO rediculous. We're sick of this!
@cherylgrundy3562
@cherylgrundy3562 4 күн бұрын
Agree!
@Zan1T2
@Zan1T2 5 күн бұрын
Big yawn. Biden is the nominee. Get over it.
@markfields
@markfields 5 күн бұрын
I don’t think they would elect Kamala or Newsome so I still think Biden is our best bet to beat Trump and then if Biden can’t handle it then Kamala will step in
@scrider5493
@scrider5493 5 күн бұрын
Agree Kamala won't do it. Newsome, I like b/c he is an excellent debater, is charismatic and is from Regan's state which Regan touted as better than many countries. I don't know of any baggage Newsome has. Would hate to find out later.
@belkyhernandez8281
@belkyhernandez8281 5 күн бұрын
We can put 2 popular politicians from 2 swing states. We can nominate Jon Stewart as VP to a more traditional candidate. There are options. Let's not calcify ourselves into a position because we are afraid to think outside the box
@gregallen485
@gregallen485 5 күн бұрын
That might be (and might not) but there are other options as well who are highly qualified and come from swing states rather then California.
@tpiety
@tpiety 5 күн бұрын
They absolutely would. Did you look at those numbers?
@barbaram5787
@barbaram5787 5 күн бұрын
​@@scrider5493 Newsome totally backs Biden and is mad that people are talking about replacing Biden.
@erick3614
@erick3614 5 күн бұрын
Let’s be honest with ourselves… two choices and only Biden believes in the American system of government. Nothing more to be said.
@moby2668
@moby2668 5 күн бұрын
I think there may be more that needs to be said if we want to win..
@bonniemiller4041
@bonniemiller4041 5 күн бұрын
@@erick3614 well said!
@erick3614
@erick3614 5 күн бұрын
@@moby2668 You either accept the only pro-America option or you deal with the consequences of not selecting the only pro-America option. I truly cannot help you any further.
@okapi3202
@okapi3202 5 күн бұрын
​@@erick3614Shaming people is how the Democrats lost in 2016. Stop making the same mistake.
@erick3614
@erick3614 5 күн бұрын
@@okapi3202 and those fools who didn’t believe Hillary in 2016, are the same fools scared of another Trump win in November. You get what you get.
@debbiehopewell5544
@debbiehopewell5544 5 күн бұрын
Trump needs to step down!!! Stop with this foolishness!😡 Biden/Harris💙
@MutatedPizzaBoi
@MutatedPizzaBoi 5 күн бұрын
Michelle Obama
@tschorsch
@tschorsch 5 күн бұрын
@@MutatedPizzaBoi I doubt that she will be seen has having sufficient experience.
@laurak4740
@laurak4740 5 күн бұрын
Good luck with that.
@signalfire6
@signalfire6 5 күн бұрын
@@MutatedPizzaBoi She wants nothing to do with it. There are several Ds in Congress and governors who would do fine.
@joejohnson6327
@joejohnson6327 5 күн бұрын
@@laurak4740 Some people are determined to lose.
@bonniehoke-scedrov4906
@bonniehoke-scedrov4906 5 күн бұрын
Nah. I'm voting for Biden. Stop throwing sand in his wheels!
@douglasfeldman7800
@douglasfeldman7800 5 күн бұрын
The car has already gone off the road and is in a ditch with flat tires and its engine on fire.
@sacrebleu1371
@sacrebleu1371 5 күн бұрын
​@@douglasfeldman7800Even if that were true, which I don't see it that way after 20 years as a medical professional... it far exceeds anything the GQP offer. - Veteran
@BooksForever
@BooksForever 5 күн бұрын
@@sacrebleu1371Clown response. We aren’t replacing Biden with the GQP, we’re replacing him with a solid Democratic candidate capable of beating Trump.
@joejohnson6327
@joejohnson6327 5 күн бұрын
You're not an undecided voter from a swing state, your enthusiasm doesn't matter.
@douglasfeldman7800
@douglasfeldman7800 5 күн бұрын
@@sacrebleu1371 could you explain how being a medical professional gives you some unique vantage point into this political disaster?
@janenef
@janenef 5 күн бұрын
Not yet. We need him to take actions NOW to fix this huge supreme court mess we are in. And to stop the orange menace.
@Umberto2
@Umberto2 5 күн бұрын
He’s not the one to do that. That’s very apparent. He doesn’t even want to campaign on expanding the court, a total election winner
@sonyastephens1632
@sonyastephens1632 5 күн бұрын
Biden should step aside for who exactly? The people at the Bulwark were praising Biden just two weeks ago for his overseas performance. We have two choices. We don't have time to play around. Biden on his worst day is not as bad as Trump.
@colinwinogradoff6794
@colinwinogradoff6794 5 күн бұрын
Things have changed drastically. That debate exposed the age issue and it's getting worse by the day. Biden has zero chance against trump.
@arthurmiller-vl6sw
@arthurmiller-vl6sw 5 күн бұрын
@@colinwinogradoff6794it’s not even that he has zero chance, just has to depress 80 to 100,000 voters enough to make them stay home on election day for trump to win. Just like in 2016 when Hillary lost.
@Karenonflute
@Karenonflute 5 күн бұрын
There are Democrats that would be willing to screw Biden if it meant getting a little more power for themselves, but even they don’t have enough time or name recognition to run a valid campaign this late in the game. I think most Democrats would just stay home and not vote if that happened. I wonder if that is what some of these pundits want. Their protestations against Trump are beginning to sound hollow.
@lonpollard902
@lonpollard902 5 күн бұрын
Anyone he chose to take his place would likely lose. I'm still waiting for someone to come up with a name that wouldn't bring serious divide amongst the various factions of democratic voters. Does anyone remember at all the 2020 primaries?
@Beastw1ck
@Beastw1ck 5 күн бұрын
For me, a concerned Democrat who now feels betrayed by the years of gaslighting and desperately wants to win this election.
@Rugelacharugula
@Rugelacharugula 5 күн бұрын
Yeah. Let’s throw the Democratic Party into absolute leaderless chaos, and make Trump the ONLY candidate to focus on for 4 months because of 1 bad debate. Trump is worse than that every day.
@zachriley7132
@zachriley7132 Күн бұрын
I'll vote for Biden even when he's on a wheelchair. He's a very admirable and honorable man. Best President!! 😎💙
@kristendavis7870
@kristendavis7870 5 күн бұрын
It's too damn late for Biden to step aside so just stop!
@susancommins299
@susancommins299 5 күн бұрын
Trump is the one who needs to step down. Biden screwed up one debate and you’re ready to dump him? He’s done a lot of wonderful things in his time in office. Lighten up guys, you really disappoint me!
@AlexGreenwoodPR
@AlexGreenwoodPR 5 күн бұрын
Pass
@dlquimby
@dlquimby 5 күн бұрын
VOTE BLUE know matter who
@mojavelynjester3732
@mojavelynjester3732 5 күн бұрын
What to do? Leave him alone!! Everyone can have a bad debate, even Obama had a bad debate. but Remember when LBJ pulled out... We got Nixon. I guarantee that if we replace Biden now, the exact same thing will Do you want RFK Jr or Trump??? Then let Biden win. AND remember we have safeguards in place.
@johnrains2339
@johnrains2339 5 күн бұрын
Obama’s bad debate did not instill doubt about his ability to be president. Biden’s did. That’s why Obama’s debate was recoverable, but Biden’s may not be
@user-iy6rm6pm4j
@user-iy6rm6pm4j 5 күн бұрын
1. RFK would have beaten Nixon if he hadn't been killed. 2. LBJ would have lost if he hadn't withdrawn.
@mr.bsmusic2317
@mr.bsmusic2317 5 күн бұрын
Safeguards? I think SCOTUS just removed some of those. But that STILL doesn't make Biden the best bet to win, or even a very good candidate
@markrobinowitz8473
@markrobinowitz8473 5 күн бұрын
@@user-iy6rm6pm4j and that's why RFK was killed. (I'm NOT a supporter of Junior.)
@apl7358
@apl7358 5 күн бұрын
​@johnrains2339 Media pundits immediately instilled doubt during after debate coverage. Fueling/Feeding this propaganda for the Trump ratings bonanza. No actual fact-checking. Only 🔥. Sickening. 🗳Biden-Harris 2024🇺🇸
@tierrada
@tierrada 5 күн бұрын
I would still vote for Biden just for the sake of it but if The DNC and Biden campaign start from today to sell me not just the transition of power but the emphasis on the transition of generation then I would even vote harder even when I know every one of us only got one ticket to vote. That’s the dilemma that The DNC has been refusing to see 🫠
@RaynaHelmer-vr2ev
@RaynaHelmer-vr2ev 5 күн бұрын
No, Biden stays, he will never steps down. Work it out.
@lhoward9593
@lhoward9593 5 күн бұрын
Olbermann is reporting he will step down
@BooksForever
@BooksForever 5 күн бұрын
Brace yourself…
@trumpisastump9382
@trumpisastump9382 5 күн бұрын
He needs to step down for the good of the country. Hopefully, he sees that.
@GeorgeCilley
@GeorgeCilley 5 күн бұрын
2:26
@muzziono.1902
@muzziono.1902 5 күн бұрын
So what about all of us who voted in the primary.....this is bull shit
@prairiedoggy1
@prairiedoggy1 5 күн бұрын
Now that Biden has immunity, can’t he just take a page out of Trump’s playbook and refuse to leave office?
@siobhansignet5256
@siobhansignet5256 5 күн бұрын
Ha! I was thinking the same thing.
@lhoward9593
@lhoward9593 5 күн бұрын
Don't you mean King Biden?
@siobhansignet5256
@siobhansignet5256 5 күн бұрын
@@lhoward9593 At this point, kind of! :) Per SCOTUS - that is essentially what we have here.
@Gissie291
@Gissie291 5 күн бұрын
He is not stepping down
@auntiez4917
@auntiez4917 3 күн бұрын
Yes he is 😅
@lqpbq
@lqpbq 5 күн бұрын
God he does sound so much better 4 years ago during that debate doesn't he?
@joymattson8549
@joymattson8549 4 күн бұрын
AND he sounded better the very next day at his NC rally.
@augustfilbert6305
@augustfilbert6305 4 күн бұрын
@@joymattson8549 reading off a teleprompter. totally different, not meaningful
@CMDR_Hal_Melamby
@CMDR_Hal_Melamby 5 күн бұрын
Ok then genius answer a couple of questions. How will this new candidate fund their campaign? How will they defend themselves against GoP attacks? Won't a Dem battle for the nomination just damage the party and the candidates close to the election?
@fatesrequiem
@fatesrequiem 5 күн бұрын
Setting aside that the funding question is a sunk cost fallacy example, if Kamala is the replacement she inherits the campaign funds already acquired.
@abbieyandle4986
@abbieyandle4986 5 күн бұрын
Polls are more important than the people speaking out?? Our Democracy is crumbling.
@bonniemiller4041
@bonniemiller4041 5 күн бұрын
@@abbieyandle4986 they are designed to lie and create panic. It’s Putin’s playbook. Snap out of it.
@moby2668
@moby2668 5 күн бұрын
Polls are a tool to help inform our decisions.. right?
@danangell5482
@danangell5482 5 күн бұрын
@@moby2668 Wrong. Polls are rather useless for anything but media stories.
@msvulcanspock
@msvulcanspock 5 күн бұрын
@@moby2668 The Lincoln Project has been arguing differently.
@ajmeyers5661
@ajmeyers5661 5 күн бұрын
@abbieyandle4986 *"Polls are more important than the people speaking out??"* Poll reflect people who think differently to you, and people who vote but don't speak out; i.e. the majority. So, yes
@egregious3666
@egregious3666 5 күн бұрын
Having an opinion is all American Wil, but I wonder how in the name of all that is holy how you would expect to change the candidate in July? It is so disheartening and depressing (nauseous) to hear those who KNOW Trump's danger to all of us Americans continue to gin up the Sturm and Drang of Joe is old. Why are polls driving opinion?
@BooksForever
@BooksForever 5 күн бұрын
Don’t you know the purpose of the late summer Party convention? Imagine an actual primary contest that came right down to the wire. The final decision/nomination happens as late as August.
@moby2668
@moby2668 5 күн бұрын
Why are polls driving opinion? Because many people's loyalty isn't to Biden, It's to beating Trump.
@leechowning2712
@leechowning2712 5 күн бұрын
The winner will be decided by a margin as tight as five percent in five states. That is the important part here. My own colorado will vote for the democrat. Kansas will vote for donald. But in 2016, and again in 2020, it came down to a small number of tight races, and we need to look at those states.
@msvulcanspock
@msvulcanspock 5 күн бұрын
After everything that Trump lied about at the debate then he spends DAYS talking about Biden's suitability as a candidate? How insane is he? Where are his equivalent, in numbers, of calls for Trump to step down?
@ClaytonBanes
@ClaytonBanes 4 күн бұрын
Ohnmacht is also nauseating. The First Amendment grants the people power. God bless America.
@siobhansignet5256
@siobhansignet5256 5 күн бұрын
Claire Macaskill said something very interesting the night of the debate that has been really helping me to understand the "wagon-circlers". I don't have the quote but she said something to the effect of "when you're a surrogate it is your job to put a positive spin on these things." I'm thinking that is part of what we're seeing with these supportive statements from the politicians.
@Terry-lh8cn
@Terry-lh8cn 5 күн бұрын
I don't like the argument that because he's the only person to beat Trump (out of 2) that it means he can do it again. Those things are not necessarily linked.
@laurak4740
@laurak4740 5 күн бұрын
Agreed! That was then, this is now.
@draby112
@draby112 5 күн бұрын
Exactly.
@kellykeith3372
@kellykeith3372 5 күн бұрын
Stop it!
@willchristie2650
@willchristie2650 5 күн бұрын
We can all worship Biden all the way to defeat and fascism in just 6 months. Or, like this video, we can strategize how to WIN.
@charleselmore4707
@charleselmore4707 5 күн бұрын
If any of you have ever been teachers or otherwise participated in intellectual public speaking, then I’m sure you recognize what happened to Biden on that debate stage and know that it isn’t a deal breaker. If such a brain fart was considered grounds for termination, then we’d have no public speakers at all. ‘Nuff said.
@TheBrenfitzy
@TheBrenfitzy 5 күн бұрын
he was already losing by 6 points , he wasn't going to win before this. this is our last chance.
@autumnfox4870
@autumnfox4870 5 күн бұрын
Maybe there's something wrong with your digestive tract because my farts don't last 90 minutes.
@moby2668
@moby2668 5 күн бұрын
I agree, It's not grounds for termination.. However, I do think it is grounds for not hiring someone for 4 more years.
@charleselmore4707
@charleselmore4707 5 күн бұрын
@@autumnfox4870 clever
@charleselmore4707
@charleselmore4707 5 күн бұрын
@@TheBrenfitzyI am unconvinced that the situation is as dire as all that.
@optimist228
@optimist228 5 күн бұрын
Joe needs to stay. This is absolute BS- the convicted criminal needs to step aside. It was obvious he was over-prepped - let Joe be Joe and he’ll shine. Stop this craziness - Joe is friggn fine.
@MelioraCogito
@MelioraCogito 4 күн бұрын
You do realise that if Trump stepped aside (about as likely as the Earth being discovered to be flat), the _Repuglicans,_ with a younger, more moderate and temperament candidate, would win the election hands-down against Biden, right? So why is it that so many _Democraps_ think, a younger Democratic candidate couldn't beat Trump? Your argument is a case of chasing your tail, and you don't realise it: _‘Our guy shouldn't resign! Their guy should!’_ … and so you would lose.
@jbaccanalia
@jbaccanalia 4 күн бұрын
My 87 year old dad said "Joe's not fine". Joe is at the end of his productive life. Trump never had one.
@fae821
@fae821 5 күн бұрын
Biden does not need to step aside. It's not serious. You're out of line!!!
@charlesdavis7940
@charlesdavis7940 2 күн бұрын
@@fae821 Did you actually watch the debate? I appreciate the job Joe has done, but that was a sad show-stopper. He had to do only 2 things: 1. Look sharp 2. Attack trump effectively And he had 11 days to rest and prepare! It’s sad.
@Artist179
@Artist179 5 күн бұрын
Total bs. Stop it!
@DeniseK-Creative
@DeniseK-Creative 5 күн бұрын
You stop it. You're the one who's gaslighting people. There is way too much on the line. Maybe he can survive this now. He can't survive a series of these. Do you really think Biden can get through the rest of the campaign without similar moments?
@Maxkraft19
@Maxkraft19 5 күн бұрын
I am going to be honest here. You can't just vacate peoples vote for Biden. You would need to get them on board. If you don't they will just abandon the process. What happens next and how it happens matters. And having KZfaqrs scream it only a few days after the event is not going to help. THIS NEEDS TO BE DONE IN PRIVATE. YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHO WILL ACECPT AND WHO WONT. YOU COULD JUST END UP SPLITTING THE PARTY.
@dorabora73
@dorabora73 5 күн бұрын
This is what will likely happen. No other Democrat will be able to unite the party. We need to stick with the candidate who won enough delegates to be the Democratic nominee and that is Joe Biden.
@brandonm949
@brandonm949 5 күн бұрын
​@@dorabora73 Most Democrats are voting against Trump. They'll unite behind anyone. What we need is swing voters, and they're not that interested in voting for Biden.
@pjpredhomme7699
@pjpredhomme7699 5 күн бұрын
The only way it is even possible to work is if President Biden does some soul searching - and decides he should call it a day - and hand the baton off to a candidate that has the greatest opportunity to win .
@davidmccarthy6061
@davidmccarthy6061 5 күн бұрын
Why the panic?! Historically we know that presidents don't work 24x7 and that they can let their staff do quite a lot of work. Trump worked 10am to 2pm and golfed nearly every weekend at great taxpayer expense. Let Biden nap until something important comes up.
@johnholly469
@johnholly469 5 күн бұрын
Might remind others that Will Saletan is not a neuroscientist. Nor is he a psychologist. His opinion is just that, an opinion. He cannot diagnose cognitive issues.
@benroberts2222
@benroberts2222 5 күн бұрын
The psychologists on the Shrinking Trump podcast are also quite alarmed
@msvulcanspock
@msvulcanspock 5 күн бұрын
@@benroberts2222 What about all the psychiatrists and psychologists that have been diagnosing Trump's personality disorder and his severe cognitive decline? Why isn't Trump being asked to step down, because this guy is part of the problem he is normalising Trump by talking about Biden as if any of these concerns but Biden anywhere near Trump's horrendous problems.
@arianaz4
@arianaz4 4 күн бұрын
@@benroberts2222 The last Shrinking Trump episode was a complete 180° - it felt out of character (especially compared to the debut episode with Dr. Vince Greenwood). It seemed like an over-the-top, knee-jerk reaction on the part of the show's producers, rather than scientific or fact-based observations by the Psychologists.
@benroberts2222
@benroberts2222 4 күн бұрын
@@arianaz4 you want to disagree, fine. But someone asked for a professional's take and I provided one. I thought Gartner was really trying to bend over backwards to excuse what he saw and heard, that's not something you do if you're biased the other way
@abbynash9565
@abbynash9565 5 күн бұрын
Will Saletan so well said. I hope Biden and his peeps paid attention.
@georgeroybal6388
@georgeroybal6388 5 күн бұрын
Just Stop It
@Karenonflute
@Karenonflute 5 күн бұрын
You didn’t know he was old before this? And most of us don’t give up on people just because they had a bad night. But being pundits, that’s just par for the course for you, huh?
@lisalisa20907
@lisalisa20907 5 күн бұрын
Yes, I love Biden AND feel lied to.
@lisalisa20907
@lisalisa20907 5 күн бұрын
I truly love Joe Biden. His family should give him the gift of love and TIME with them.
@muzziono.1902
@muzziono.1902 5 күн бұрын
​@@lisalisa20907he didn't fkn die or get put out to pasture lmao with r u talking about
@ernestwhite2989
@ernestwhite2989 5 күн бұрын
I think Joe was just flabbergasted at the bullshit trump was throwing out there❤
@thinkinaboutpolitics
@thinkinaboutpolitics 5 күн бұрын
I'm a democrat and a ward chair in my city. I feel lied to as well
@beaulavergne5557
@beaulavergne5557 5 күн бұрын
Biden is the man- he’s been the best Potus our our lifetime.
@miltonthegreat6520
@miltonthegreat6520 5 күн бұрын
As a Canadian, I feel freer to write comments. It's frustrating to see some Democrat voters -- when faced with a reality or truth about something -- feel a sycophantic urge to circle wagons around their candidate. (They sound like MAGA.) Imagine Biden four years from now, when he will be an older, older man. He won't have the physical or mental stamina to spend week long 12-hour days when dealing with some emerging local or international issue. You need a fighter, actually several fighters.
@TysonQuick
@TysonQuick 5 күн бұрын
Lol, Trump voter.
@moby2668
@moby2668 5 күн бұрын
Yeah, it's interesting, I think most will come around in the coming few weeks as the polling starts making things more clear. I don't think most people's loyalty is as much to Biden as it is to beating Trump. Polling looked rough before the debate..
@pcoleman1971
@pcoleman1971 5 күн бұрын
As a fellow Canadian, I think it's hard for us to make the binary choice that the US has. In Canada, 3rd parties are real, as evident by our current minority government. So, unlike the US, a vote for someone other than the Conservatives or the Liberals, depending upon your riding, is not a wasted vote. So, given that binary choice, the Democrats have a straight-forward question, "Does Kamala Harris have a better chance of beating Trump?" Everything else is just noise. I'm not convinced Kamala can win, but it is debatable.
@benroberts2222
@benroberts2222 5 күн бұрын
Yes they absolutely sound like MAGA. That's the most depressing part of all of this for me, a Democrat in the US, to watch.
@miltonthegreat6520
@miltonthegreat6520 5 күн бұрын
@@moby2668 True. Very true. Good luck with the election. I know talking about Biden's health is tough, but I'm very happy to see the party's democracy is vibrant, and on this issue better than the GOP with Trump. Again, best wishes.
@calinasagilitypartner4444
@calinasagilitypartner4444 5 күн бұрын
NO! ABSOLUTELY NO! BIDEN SHOULD NOT STEP DOWN! YOU ARE WRONG! BIDEN WILL WIN!
@BooksForever
@BooksForever 5 күн бұрын
Biden’s expiration date has been exceeded.
@tophat593
@tophat593 5 күн бұрын
They why is he behind in the polls? Why do 75% of the population think he's unfit? Burying your head in the sand will only usher Trump in.
@allenguritz666
@allenguritz666 5 күн бұрын
Allan Lichtman has stated that Biden is our best shot at winning. I do not care about the argument from authority. It is fallacious. But his track record is pretty good. Please rebut that, and i will gladly agree. Voting 💙 anyway to stop project 2025.
@curtisevans4100
@curtisevans4100 5 күн бұрын
Which key is octogenarian possible suffering from early dementia?
@allenguritz666
@allenguritz666 5 күн бұрын
@curtisevans4100 I did not ask for a sly comment but a real argument. Try again. I am here for ideas. This is serious to me.
@curtisevans4100
@curtisevans4100 5 күн бұрын
@@allenguritz666 answer Lichtman doesn't have one. Which mean he's lacking input data for his conclusions.
@allenguritz666
@allenguritz666 5 күн бұрын
@curtisevans4100 I understand wanting an answer now because of social media, media in general, Amazon, etc. These things have made it hard to wait, but Allan Lichtman waits until he has more data to render an opinion, which is both refreshing and smart. He is one of the only ones who said Trump would win in 2016.
@hammill444
@hammill444 5 күн бұрын
Lichtmans analysis has never had to account for a candidate of this age and possible cognitive issues. That’s where his analysis has never been tested.
@user-pf1qd3jq6g
@user-pf1qd3jq6g 5 күн бұрын
You’re wrong. Everyone always says he should step aside but no one says who should replace him. I love Kamala but she is not popular and the polls haven’t been right in years. How about you help build him up instead of helping to tear him down. Yet another channel I need to unsubscribe to.
@Cuda1963
@Cuda1963 5 күн бұрын
If Joe Biden stepped down, who would you suggest who is there to lead this country through the Democratic Party? Who would that be what would that look like? I’m gonna go with what I know, and that is Joe Biden gets committed to this country. He is committed to our democracy and frankly, I don’t know if he’ll go out for years, but you can’t guarantee anybody’s going to be alive in four years you can’t guarantee that Trump’s not going to stroke out tomorrow, yes, I pray for it daily.
@misslanapaulford
@misslanapaulford 5 күн бұрын
It's 4 months away. They know it's bullshit. Get Behind Joe Biden. 😊
@charlesdavis7940
@charlesdavis7940 5 күн бұрын
Gretchen Whitmer + Pete Buttigieg. They’d win in a landslide, burying Trumpism.
@BooksForever
@BooksForever 5 күн бұрын
Jamie Raskin would be a better choice. He could mop the floor with Trump.
@misslanapaulford
@misslanapaulford 5 күн бұрын
@@BooksForever He doesn't want to do it.. he likes where he is a thinks he can do more good. It's only 4 months away. Only Joe can defeat the wannabe dictator.
@moby2668
@moby2668 5 күн бұрын
I think Kamala Harris is not Ideal but her youth and ability to communicate matches well against Trump.
@chrisnewburg4839
@chrisnewburg4839 5 күн бұрын
Dems will vote dem..magas vote maga. The independent, undecideds are the concern. Americans WANT a good, younger option to vote for..the overwhelming thought is "these two, AGAIN?". IMO we could put up a good candidate and get back those people in the middle who WANT a different option. It is clear Biden can't do this 4 more years
@eblount55
@eblount55 5 күн бұрын
Who is this magical candidate you are talking about? We've done that before Nixon won easily.
@TruthAndTattoos
@TruthAndTattoos 5 күн бұрын
​@@eblount55Kamala Harris that's who.
@brandonm949
@brandonm949 5 күн бұрын
​@@eblount55 We've also tried keeping the unpopular candidate - Jimmy Carter in 1980. If the party is unpopular, it doesn't really matter who the candidate is. That's where 2024 is different. Democrats as a whole are doing fine in the polls. Most of the swing state Senate candidates are winning, while Biden is trailing by 5-10 points in those states. Biden is the problem. Replace him with Buttigieg, Whitmer, Newsom, or Harris. I think any of them could win WI, MI, PA, and NE-2, and therefore win the election.
@pipersall6761
@pipersall6761 5 күн бұрын
Youre right Will. A new younger, stronger, more charismatic, more eloquent candidate can continue the great policies of the Biden administration and at the same time more effectively take the fight to Trump and the MAGA wolves who are at our door! A new candidate can be a good person too and be a compassionate person too. Its bigger than Joe Biden and the threat and peril is real!! Lets spend our anxiety finding someone who will solve the age problem and the Palestinian problem and the inflation problem AND LOOK AND SOUND BETTER DOING IT.
@laurak4740
@laurak4740 5 күн бұрын
I wouldn't mind if he/she was a great bullshitter at this point... as a matter of fact, even better to debate Trump again.
@msvulcanspock
@msvulcanspock 5 күн бұрын
Sure frighten off all the Independents, Double Trump Voters who are making ads for other Double Trump Voters to vote for Biden, and all the Nikki Halley voters that Trump said he didn't want, and who kept voting for her after she left the race. What could go wrong? Trump will get in and Project 2025 will be put into place that is what will go wrong.
@gjjkgfci
@gjjkgfci 5 күн бұрын
What we're going to do is we're going to vote for him and we're going to support him and we're going to stand by him and we're going to win! Wish the media had as much hope as the rest of the people do
@annakingry9157
@annakingry9157 16 сағат бұрын
The media think they are the king-makers, and they might be, but Americans still know the difference between a Leader and a loud-mouthed Puppet who believes in nothing.
@Grammy52
@Grammy52 5 күн бұрын
Well, if this channel is seriously suggesting Biden should drop out then they don’t need me as a subscriber.
@theologamer
@theologamer 5 күн бұрын
This perspective is just madness. The overwhelming support for Biden in this comment section isn't going to make a difference for the undecided and swing voters. THOSE are the only peoples' opinions that matter on this topic. All the people in the comment section who are just going to "vote even HARDER" for Joe, aren't going to convince those people who were already on the fence, and then saw a highlight reel of Biden stumbling on TikTok.
@msvulcanspock
@msvulcanspock 5 күн бұрын
@@theologamer Have you noticed that Nikki Halley dropped out of the primaries and Republicans kept voting for her, sometimes up to 20% in a primary. The Trump protest vote hasn't gotten a lot of courage.
@suemccord2633
@suemccord2633 5 күн бұрын
4MoreYears Biden/ Harris. Calmly Getting It Done For All Americans 🎉President Joe Biden Is A Good Decent Man Doing An Excellent Job With His Exceptional Administration ❤Love You Joe and Kamala))
@dandanner3111
@dandanner3111 5 күн бұрын
Fuck this... 'Weekend at Burnie's' this thing past the finish line.
@Everywhere2
@Everywhere2 5 күн бұрын
Maybe not the best metaphor all things considered
@reginapetty2042
@reginapetty2042 5 күн бұрын
Hubris. All podcasters and newscasters who share this take seem to think that Biden and his team have their heads in the sand. Even in these turbulent times, Biden has led one of the most effective administrations we’ve had. Head-in-the-sand is not consistent with his performance. Rather, I think it more likely that Biden and his team are taking this very seriously and constantly assessing likelihood of success. I trust Biden and his team.
@christinebenson518
@christinebenson518 5 күн бұрын
I hate how people dismissed that he over prepared for the debate. He clearly did. He shouldn't have spent more than 4 hours prepping total. He needed to rest up and be ready to counter all of Trump's lies because the dang moderators did nothing. Medi Hassan (whom I rarely agree with) even complained about the moderators, and he's no Biden fan. Do I think Biden has aged? Of course. Do I think he will last another 4 years? Don't know. Is Biden the only one who can beat Trump? YES. The only way for Biden to step down is if Trump and Trump Jr die. That's the only way. I'm no huge fan of Kamala, but she won't win. There are too many racist and sexist people.
@mid_century_me
@mid_century_me 5 күн бұрын
Boo. Nope. I’m standing by Biden. If he decides to quit, I’ll move on. But no way would I say he needs to step aside. He beat Trump before, and he can beat him again.
@lindaraezer3013
@lindaraezer3013 5 күн бұрын
Have you never heard of a one term president? I've always loved Biden, but he's aged tremendously over the last 4 years. He could very well lose to Trump.
@trumpisastump9382
@trumpisastump9382 5 күн бұрын
Biden will likely loose to Trump. There is no indication that he is up to this campaign.
@ontheruntonowhere
@ontheruntonowhere 5 күн бұрын
Biden strongly hinted he'd be a one-term president. A bridge whose main responsibility would be to use his reputation and years of service to defeat Trump and then empower the next generation of Democratic leaders. I believe he has gone back on that pledge because he is blinded by hubris. Like Trump, Biden thinks he alone can fix it. Like Trump, Biden will lose.
@MarilynTalk
@MarilynTalk 5 күн бұрын
Biden is WAY better than Trump. He can beat the criminal.
@tonyaharper4209
@tonyaharper4209 5 күн бұрын
Bulwark is wrong. He should not leave. He must stay. He has a VP for a reason. The voters know hes old and we voted for him regardless. You give the voter no credit. We dont care if Biden is in the ground, we will vote for him. Read the comments coming from real voters not pundits and elites. .
@colinwinogradoff6794
@colinwinogradoff6794 5 күн бұрын
He's polling 6 points behind trump, and it's going down.
@lindsayleiter8341
@lindsayleiter8341 5 күн бұрын
I unsubbed from Bulwark b/c of this continued message. We should have thought about this at the beginning. It's too late now. They want confusion....don't give them the satisfaction. Shame on you, Bulwark. Hold the line! 🌊
@gregallen485
@gregallen485 5 күн бұрын
I'm a real voter and I agree with Will. You did watch the debate, right? You have to know it wasn't good and he couldn't counter Trump's endless lies. Don't blame that on the pundits and the elites (at least I don't think I'm an elite). Get your head out of the sand and look around. Talk to your friends. Maybe Biden will be our choice in November. Maybe the country will unite and agree Trump is unfit. I was all for Biden before the debate, I believed those who said he was fine. I was frustrated with the bed wetters. Then I saw the debate and realized there was a serious problem and I was mistaken. I believe there is a path forward for a younger, more dynamic candidate with a better chance to beat Trump. Let's see. I don't think looking will hurt Biden as long as we are united come November.
@Karenonflute
@Karenonflute 5 күн бұрын
I trust Biden’s team FAR more than I trust Trump’s team. No more to be said!
@benroberts2222
@benroberts2222 5 күн бұрын
Undecided voters can't name more than two members of Biden's team, why would that be a good reason for them to vote for Biden?
@LionRoarGamer
@LionRoarGamer 5 күн бұрын
Time is ticking, this needs to happen fast.
@alinchitown7556
@alinchitown7556 5 күн бұрын
Will you all shut up about this buzz off Biden is our man period.💙💙💙🇺🇸💙💙💙
@zachriley7132
@zachriley7132 Күн бұрын
I'll vote for Biden even when he's on a wheelchair. He's a very admirable and honorable man. Excellent President! 🏆😎💙
@saule_8008
@saule_8008 5 күн бұрын
Who is an acceptable President Biden replacement for the Bulwark?
@lhoward9593
@lhoward9593 5 күн бұрын
Well, they've been criticising Harris _forever_
@pcoleman1971
@pcoleman1971 5 күн бұрын
100%! That's the real question. If I believed Kamala Harris could beat Trump, I would be in full support of Biden stepping down. I'm not convinced.
@Everywhere2
@Everywhere2 5 күн бұрын
Ronald Reagan
@careerdeva
@careerdeva 5 күн бұрын
@@Everywhere2 😂
@margaretsharp499
@margaretsharp499 5 күн бұрын
Biden does not need to step aside
@Trying911
@Trying911 5 күн бұрын
ignoring these poll numbers is head-in-the-sand ignorance
@FC-rg1vk
@FC-rg1vk 5 күн бұрын
Stop the noise!!!! It’s ridiculous!!! No we need Biden more than ever!
@zachriley7132
@zachriley7132 Күн бұрын
I'm still with Biden even when he's on a wheelchar. He's old but he has integrity and wisdom.
@peterhunt6480
@peterhunt6480 5 күн бұрын
It’s the 4th quarter with 4 minutes left and we’re down by 4. Do we stick with the old veteran who has won a lot of games for us, or do we go with an unproven rookie? Unless we have a young Joe Montana on the bench, we should stick with an aging Johnny Unitas.
@muzziono.1902
@muzziono.1902 5 күн бұрын
Thank u....this is really dumb advice they are giving
@benroberts2222
@benroberts2222 5 күн бұрын
It's not even halftime yet. Convention hasn't happened
@danangell5482
@danangell5482 5 күн бұрын
@@benroberts2222 It's well past halftime. It became too late to replace Biden in 2023.
@benroberts2222
@benroberts2222 5 күн бұрын
@@danangell5482 so when was kickoff, 2022???
@danangell5482
@danangell5482 5 күн бұрын
@@benroberts2222 2021.
@millissagould2674
@millissagould2674 5 күн бұрын
Biden Harris 2024❤️
@jalinajovkovich3808
@jalinajovkovich3808 5 күн бұрын
I'm taking a break from listening to this channel. I get it, but you guys are looking for a unicorn to replace Biden. And now Trump's sentencing for the 34 felonies is delayed until September. My nerves need a damn break.
@corgigirluser
@corgigirluser 5 күн бұрын
Wait until the Robert Hur audio interview of Biden in documents case comes out, Biden will lose the election.
@bonniemiller4041
@bonniemiller4041 5 күн бұрын
@@jalinajovkovich3808 boy can I relate!
@lhoward9593
@lhoward9593 5 күн бұрын
I think the word Will would use is a "pony."
@johnrains2339
@johnrains2339 5 күн бұрын
We don’t need a unicorn. We need someone else who can debate without sounding senile. We need a young candidate who can win the double haters.
@jasonpickard8442
@jasonpickard8442 5 күн бұрын
TRUMP SHOULD STEP DOWN!!!
@catr4030
@catr4030 5 күн бұрын
Yes I do want to march in lock step with Biden
@skyrocketcoast219
@skyrocketcoast219 5 күн бұрын
Major b.s. One fail debate does NOT make a Presidency.
@moby2668
@moby2668 5 күн бұрын
I think we have a president who has been a very poor communicator about the issues we care about. because of the debate, I don't think it's going to get better.
@RunOfTheHind
@RunOfTheHind 5 күн бұрын
You think he's not likely to fail over the next FOUR AND A HALF years?
@TruthAndTattoos
@TruthAndTattoos 5 күн бұрын
Everybody's keeps calling it a 'bad debate' like it was bad strategy, bad prep or bad communicating. It wasn't a bad debate. It was his cognitive decline on full display for the world to see, something that will continue to get worse.
@willchristie2650
@willchristie2650 5 күн бұрын
True. But would you let Biden drive your kids to school after this debate?
@spongedinosaurs
@spongedinosaurs 5 күн бұрын
u wrong
@PhilW603
@PhilW603 5 күн бұрын
The comparison between 2020 and 2024 is devastating
@damiannunez416
@damiannunez416 5 күн бұрын
So Will, in all your wisdom, what is your solution? Also, what happened to you not believing in polls?
@lhoward9593
@lhoward9593 5 күн бұрын
Good point !
@Chnmmr
@Chnmmr 5 күн бұрын
clicks my friend, youtube clicks. Panic bait gets clicks.
@benroberts2222
@benroberts2222 5 күн бұрын
One possible solution is outlined in a recent WaPo editorial: hold a bunch of debates before the convention between contenders and watch public feedback. An open convention picks the nominee. Transparency in the process is key rather than a bunch of backroom deals, and we'd need Harris' buy-in
@msvulcanspock
@msvulcanspock 5 күн бұрын
@@Chnmmr This is panic porm. Pod Save America is spewing forth the same garbage. Clickbait will make them a lot of money.
@shannonfreeman1
@shannonfreeman1 5 күн бұрын
Noooo!! Im voting for President Biden!
@birajguha4797
@birajguha4797 5 күн бұрын
Thanx a ton for this, Will! You made the exact points I have pondering over the last few days, the logic is as follows: 1) *Primary target* is to defeat tRump come November, whatever be the means 2) Biden, being once victorious, was _assumed_ to be the default best weapon we have against tRump 3) Biden has clearly deteriorated since 2021 - been making less and less public appearances, almost never faced questions without a teleprompter and is now visibly senile 4) Debate Thursday night _exposed_ this (in contrast to to _created_ ) situation - he should have wiped the floor with tRump's lies, which were trivially debunkable by anyone cognitively OK 5) We need a strong _campaigner_ to bring out all middle-of-the-road voters, specifically because the only way Dems lose is if they stay home in November 6) Swing voters now are distracted by Biden's mental health, where they should be focused on fascistic tendencies of tRump 7) A fresh new face, who would take on tRump daily, will erase this baggage for Dems and shift all the attention to tRump's Project 2025 and authoritarian plans TL,DR ---> Biden has been exposed as a weak weapon against tRump, #replacebidenfast
@nickjablonski4552
@nickjablonski4552 5 күн бұрын
All of you on here saying that you’re unsubscribing and Joe should stay will vote for any Democratic nominee and hence don’t matter one lick. A different candidate could win over moderates who are entrenched in their view of Biden (right or wrong). It’s clear that a different candidate would be the pragmatic choice. Keep up the good work Bulwark, ignore these fools.
@eblount55
@eblount55 5 күн бұрын
Where is your proof that someone would bring in moderates. I have history as proof the parties who nominee drops out looses. Who is the magical candidate you say can win
@nickjablonski4552
@nickjablonski4552 5 күн бұрын
@@eblount55Whitmer/Shapiro basically locks up Michigan and Pennsylvania. Michelle Obama just beat Trump 50-39 in a new poll. Heck, Kamala is outperforming Biden at this point, she is better if no other choice is possible. Take your pick, any would be a huge boost for the Democrats chances.
@corgigirluser
@corgigirluser 5 күн бұрын
The people unsubscribing do not really believe in democracy, because democracy allow people of different viewpoint to speak freely
@nickjablonski4552
@nickjablonski4552 5 күн бұрын
@@eblount55Whitmer/Shapiro would basically lock up Michigan and Pennsylvania, that seems good. Michelle Obama is beating Trump 50-39 in a new poll. Even Kamala is outperforming Biden against Trump. Take your pick, any of them would lead to a huge boost for the Democrats chances in November.
@VirginiaBronson
@VirginiaBronson 5 күн бұрын
@@eblount55the point isn’t a guaranteed win. The point is there’s at least a CHANCE at winning if Biden drops out and endorses someone. Trump has been ahead in the polls for more than a year now. A better Democratic candidate gives us a better chance at winning.
@FRANCENEKELLY
@FRANCENEKELLY 5 күн бұрын
As usual, true wisdom from Will. Appreciate, so deeply, you and what you say! And, as always, the way you say it.
@RonLWilson
@RonLWilson 5 күн бұрын
If Biden can't win and Trump must be defeated then it does not matter if Biden is the good guy or not. Trump demands loyalty and it seems Biden supporter are demanding the same for Biden. But loyalty or lack there of is not the issue. The issue is how to best defeat Trump and thus save the nation from having to endure a second Trump term which has all the making of being far worse than the first.
@chrisocony
@chrisocony 5 күн бұрын
It is so damn hard for so many Democrats to understand this simple point!
@danangell5482
@danangell5482 5 күн бұрын
@@chrisocony Because Biden's literally the only one who can beat Trump. Biden's the best option to beat Trump, full stop.
@mamaya9869
@mamaya9869 5 күн бұрын
This is ridiculous. He had 1 bad debate. DEMS DON'T PANIC... THIS IS NOT THE WAY TO GO.
@carolconlon704
@carolconlon704 5 күн бұрын
Did you not watch the video you're commenting on?? Where do you get your news?
@benroberts2222
@benroberts2222 5 күн бұрын
One bad debate. One bad special counsel interview. Avoiding press conferences for a long time. Holed up in Camp David instead of doing traditional damage control (go on a late night show, hold a press conference/town hall, ...) None of this is conclusive in itself but when you put it all together it's pretty telling
@andreaperry938
@andreaperry938 5 күн бұрын
Will, do you believe the people you showed defending Biden are being dishonest? Something happened on debate night, that's a fact. Joe is also 4 years older than the last election and he has been critisized every step of the way. I hope he's ok and I won't write him off.
@lonpollard902
@lonpollard902 4 күн бұрын
I have this old fashioned thing, now long out of style, of trending to trust the word of experts, over the "theories" found among those in the general public. And expert after expert after expert, has explained that it is Trump, not Biden, who is suffering from dementia. And realistically, I'd have been even more thrown into shock, than Biden, if I were faced with that gish gallop he found himself facing. And my mind would be no duller by the interpretations of a public that thinks it knows more than the experts. And no experts would ever be able to get through to the public how sharp my mind is, no matter how right they were about my mind being sharp. I might be able to comprehend why layman with zero expertise might conclude what they conclude. But their conclusions would in no way be reality. Maybe alternative reality. But not reality.
@Xanthadu
@Xanthadu 5 күн бұрын
At this point it ain’t about “swing” voters deciding between Dump and Biden, it’s about people not voting at all. Bulwark, please keep the pressure on Biden to pass the torch. He’d go down in history as a hero for doing it.
@Xanthadu
@Xanthadu 5 күн бұрын
And as someone else said, it will take longer than 4 more yrs to get rid of MAGA. We need a strong younger ticket like Shapiro / Whitmer that can win a 1st AND 2nd term.
@msvulcanspock
@msvulcanspock 5 күн бұрын
And if it is not Kamala Harris, she's not white, so the Bulwalk is not fond of her, but you jump over her and you lost the people who actually get out the vote, that is Black women. If you frighten off all the Independents, Double Trump Voters who are making ads for other Double Trump Voters to vote for Biden, and all the Nikki Halley voters that Trump said he didn't want, and who kept voting for her after she left the race. Then Trump will get in and Project 2025 will be put into place. Seriously just go and work for the Republicans with this level of analysis, you are just helping Trump anyway!
@H.G.Wells-ishWells-ish
@H.G.Wells-ishWells-ish 5 күн бұрын
"This island is NOT sinking." --- King Arnulf from Eric the Viking
@OnTheSnap1
@OnTheSnap1 5 күн бұрын
Newsom or Raskin would loose the farm. Hillary won all 3 debates and lost. What’s important is what happens next.
@Everywhere2
@Everywhere2 5 күн бұрын
She did win the popular vote, though. But if you vote in a blue state, your vote is worth less than if you vote in a red state thanks to the electoral college's built-in bias.
@Umberto2
@Umberto2 5 күн бұрын
All were/are cognizant of their whereabouts
@delphinebez3045
@delphinebez3045 5 күн бұрын
Bulwark stop the BS ! You're just helping the wrong side.
@georgeroybal6388
@georgeroybal6388 5 күн бұрын
@@delphinebez3045 exactly
@turtleswatter21
@turtleswatter21 5 күн бұрын
I don't like being talked to like I'm three years of age. I'm concerned, but at the end of the day, it's up to the Democratic party, not you, to decide what is to happen next. In the meantime, instead of spending your time doing trump's work, I'd concentrate on undermining him
@msvulcanspock
@msvulcanspock 5 күн бұрын
Saletan's patronising tone of voice combined with his inability to analyse his own normalisation of Trump and MAGA is scary. Biden was listening to a torrent of lies and misinformation and how suprising was it that he lost his train of though? Saletan can't maintain a train of though coherently enough to understand that you don't undermine a Democratic presidential candidate thereby providing support for a sociopath. Where was Saletan when Trump was president? His comments are bordering on delusional. Where are Saletan's calls to Trump to step down? Why do Democrats have to be so destructive to their own candidate?
@therealking6202
@therealking6202 5 күн бұрын
Why? WHY? I see no upside.
@moby2668
@moby2668 5 күн бұрын
I don't think Biden can attract enough Young/Swing voters after that debate, He was losing in the polls before the debate. I see a Hail-mary with Harria and a certain defeat with Biden.
@willchristie2650
@willchristie2650 5 күн бұрын
WINNING THE DAMN ELECTION!!! Eye roll.
@chrisocony
@chrisocony 5 күн бұрын
As sure as the sun will rise tomorrow. Biden is going to lose the election.
@jombeemeanstroke6426
@jombeemeanstroke6426 5 күн бұрын
@@willchristie2650 Maybe WINNING THE DAMN ELECTION means not switching candidates at the last second. Eye roll.
@therealking6202
@therealking6202 5 күн бұрын
@@jombeemeanstroke6426 Seriously. There's a second debate. Just own it. If we change now, might as well say to the American people, "Tried to sneak that one by you. Our bad." It would be an overnight loss of trust for the Dems.
@Babarudra
@Babarudra 5 күн бұрын
I don't believe that Harris could do it. She's not a strong candidate. I've wanted to like her, but she hedges just about everything she's asked about. Like she doesn't want to get caught saying the wrong thing. And the whole campaign finance thing would create problems for anyone else. I'll be voting D up and down the ballot if Biden steps aside or not. I just hope we can rally ALL never Trumpers to do the same.
@sher152
@sher152 5 күн бұрын
Stop what you are doing.
@nicolascortes191
@nicolascortes191 5 күн бұрын
The most reasonable video I have seen so far on KZfaq. You don't win by being good, you win by having a good strategy against your opponent. The interests of the country come first before the personal interests of any presidential candidate. I recognize that the threat is not Biden but on the contrary his opponent, that is why we have to ask ourselves, is Biden the only one who can defeat Trump? Presidents come and go, democracies do not. Our fight must be focused on preserving our democracy.
@katerpillarvisionconsultant
@katerpillarvisionconsultant 5 күн бұрын
America broke up with Trump and his administration because he/they were a disaster. In dating going back to your ex is never a good choice. Especially one that was a narcissist. Biden could be on life support, and he would still get my vote. Only one candidate believes America is a good place and is actively working to improve it. There is no hope for MAGA they are far too gone and suffering from Stockholm Syndrome. America has gone 249 years without a dictator. We the people do not need a dictator for any length of time.
@lonpollard902
@lonpollard902 4 күн бұрын
As far as dictator, keep on mind a few things. 32% of Americans believe that religious views should dictate our laws. Theocracy *is* authoritarianism. And what percentage of citizens voted for Trump? Slightly less than a third. And how many either didn't vote, or voted third party? More than a third. That leaves what percentage voting against authoritarianism? The reason we'll collapse into authoritarianism is we the people. Some of my comments that have been deleted stands out to me. What is now the mission of the Bulwark network? We can blame politicians, the press, the courts, wealthy persons who have finances the slide toward authoritarianism, but ultimately it is we the people who will be at fault, first and foremost, for finding ourselves with a dictator. We the citizenry are at fault for the collapse of freedom in our nation.
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