Here's Why PS5 Joysticks Drift (and Why They'll Only Get Worse)

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3 жыл бұрын

Mere months have passed since the PS5's hotly anticipated launch, and already there's a class-action lawsuit brewing over joystick drift on Sony's high-tech DualSense controllers. Who could have seen this coming? Well, as it turns out, everyone. Everyone should have seen this coming. Because for all its exciting new tech, the DualSense uses off-the-shelf joystick hardware with a long history of predictable, preventable issues. And now we've investigated those issues in excruciating detail.
Sony isn't the only company to use off-the-shelf joystick modules, but, like Microsoft, they've made it difficult to repair this consumable component. Joysticks have a known life expectancy-it's listed right in a product sheet from the manufacturer. In this video, we head back inside a DualSense controller to see what is failing, and how.
You can read more about joystick drift in our blog post on iFixit.com:
www.ifixit.com/News/48944/her...
Links to other videos we reference in this video:
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@iFixitYourself 3 жыл бұрын

A few notes: We started this investigation due to reports of PS5 DualSense controllers drifting, but as we mention at 0:58, these findings apply to most modern joysticks! 3:14 that carbon pad has been scratched with a dental pick. The actual wear to the pads will look different, this was a demonstration since we didn't have a drifting DualSense. 3:50 sprinkling goldfish crackers into your joystick will not fix drift. Don't try this at home. Don't miss Margot the puppy desperately trying to eat Cheez-Its at 5:47

@rayyanamir8560 3 жыл бұрын

We can pressure Sony and Microsoft to offer us gamepads with replaceable joysticks like the one in thrustmaster E swap model. But the companies wouldn't do it because they want us to pay for the entire gamepad.

@RoyHoy 3 жыл бұрын

Fine, I'll try it at my friend's house.

@jub8891 3 жыл бұрын

so this video isnt really about the ps5 but the joystick module. so why make it sound like its a ps5 issue in the title?

@tornadic6286 3 жыл бұрын

For now people could just change their deadzone on certain games

@Refreshment01 3 жыл бұрын

i don't remember the issue being this bad in past generations. For example, 1st generation Xbox or GameCube controllers took a lot of abuse and remained fine. If isn't Alps fault then why those controllers lasted longer?

@ProtoMario 3 жыл бұрын

Im not a fool who claims old tech is better, but this is crazy people sped 60 dollars on controllers for this bs.

@bobdylan1968 3 жыл бұрын

They are 70 dollars. Not 60. They raised the price from last gen. And the adaptive triggers are breaking.

@bruhmoment5916 3 жыл бұрын

80$ for joy cons are also insane 😭 Bruh ppl here said that they’re 80 and I checked, it’s true. wtf 80 is worse. actual scam

@xamine1680 3 жыл бұрын

@@bobdylan1968 And they don't come with anything to charge it.

@eriklona8806 3 жыл бұрын

Don't ignore the fact they mentioned the elite controllers have the same tech for twice the price...

@antonymartin4572 3 жыл бұрын

@@xamine1680 charge what?

@SolidNeodark 3 жыл бұрын

FINALLY someone that doesn't explain drift as "it's just dust and grime".

@manuel0578 3 жыл бұрын

...but that's what they did. they don't explain at all why this hasn't been an issue before. i've been using analog sticks since the N64 and never had any drifting until the joycons.

@Chuked 3 жыл бұрын

@@manuel0578 its a plot to get consumers to buy new controllers... its a new way to drive more money out of our pockets every few months

@ashercoates4345 3 жыл бұрын

@@Chuked even if that was true it still doesn't answer the question. Why hasn't this happened before?

@Chuked 3 жыл бұрын

@@ashercoates4345 companies getting greedier

@Chuked 3 жыл бұрын

@@ashercoates4345 they werent as greedy as before... they continue to want to drive more money out of us than before... its simply greedy practices

@grimstars4326 Жыл бұрын

I’ve never experienced stick drift with my PS4. Got the PS5 a year ago and I’m now on controller #3 in need of a fix. This is ridiculous.

@retsaMoN Жыл бұрын

I remember the xbox 360 controllers lasting for pretty much forever (like the nokia phone), but as for the newer xbox one controllers I have come across a whole bag full of broke xbox one controllers. So yeah it seems they are being made cheaper and sloppier

@angelsalgado1359 Жыл бұрын

Fr I’m on my second

@commonsensegaming1756 Жыл бұрын

Same here. I bet my ps2 has no drift and that thing was the longest console on the market ever

@commonsensegaming1756 Жыл бұрын

@@retsaMoN dude I wore all the rubber off my 360 controller sticks and still kept playing with it...with zero drift I might add. Wtf

@jamesoncollins8931 Жыл бұрын

Literally same.

@Luna-oo9ru 3 жыл бұрын

It’s crazy how far technology has come, yet we can’t make a joystick that lasts more than 400 hours???

@king-qi2ks 3 жыл бұрын

@Bruh U exactly my Xbox 360 controller I’ve had for 7 years still works fine, I think these companies just purposely making lower quality controllers so people can keep buying their controllers

@hugono3938 3 жыл бұрын

👑king That’s their exact intention, otherwise they wouldn’t be making a profit at all as they are selling the new consoles at a loss (except nintendo)

@LuciaNarsh 3 жыл бұрын

400 HAHA it's been four days since i got my ps5 and the controllers drifting like cars on my games 🤣

@WulfricUlfang001 2 жыл бұрын

@Bruh U The punishment you seemed to be able to put dualshock 2 controllers through and still have them function.

@LittleGalaxy08 2 жыл бұрын

@@LuciaNarsh day 4 for me also 🤦

@RejiXCore 3 жыл бұрын

I remember playing ps2 and when the joystick started drifting I just smacked it, now it's fine

@danielprins7959 3 жыл бұрын

ah, smacking. The perfect solution to any hardware problem.

@GamingLiveHDChannelPH 3 жыл бұрын

Same with the PSP nah! i ignored anyway

@tochukwuudu7763 3 жыл бұрын

did that to my ps3 controller alot lmfao.

@Bunger62 3 жыл бұрын

the left button on my cousin's mouse was stuck so he smashed it on a paint can and somehow that fixed it

@TommyBKWL 3 жыл бұрын

@@Bunger62 is your cousin Linus Tech Tips?

@electrofreak0 3 жыл бұрын

Can't understand how something that will break after finite use is not easily replaceable. *Takes huge long look at smartphone manufacturers and their non-replaceable, wasteful, anti-consumer model that has been mainstream for a decade now*

@Raja995mh33 3 жыл бұрын

well most Smartphones still let you kinda easily replace the battery (as long as it's not Samsung or LG that use 5 tons of glue for the battery alone) and stuff. But the joysticks here are pretty much impossible to replace for a normal person...

@alexanderjarvis3333 3 жыл бұрын

so the moral of the story is you think that fixing smartphones is not possible because you dont know how to?

@KillSchwill 3 жыл бұрын

@@Raja995mh33 actually it's much easier to solder than to disassemble a modern phone. I'm no expert but I've replaced both joysticks and phone batteries, and I much prefer to work on game controllers.

@leinad112 3 жыл бұрын

@@alexanderjarvis3333 Comparing how easy it was to replace a battery in a smartphone 6 or 8 year ago (just removing a back cover), and how it is now... That's why I prefer the 2x AA batterie on Xbox controller, VS internal batteries in PS controllers

@alexanderjarvis3333 3 жыл бұрын

@@leinad112 fair enough

@kopexgaming 2 жыл бұрын

this is my problem too, just buy ps5 6month ago, rarely playing, but still drifting, only play 3 game on ps5

@parkeryoung2471 Жыл бұрын

Mine drift immediately after connection to ps5

@hsmreu Жыл бұрын

@@parkeryoung2471 Bruh 😹😹😹 This is just lame. What is going on with gaming nowadays??. :(

@parkeryoung2471 Жыл бұрын

@@hsmreu where you from sanae, your name is too familiar

@laurenedney7 8 ай бұрын

Controller left on your desk?

@msclolololol1809 2 ай бұрын

@@hsmreu DEI, feminism and LGBTI lobbyism happened

@marfg12345 3 жыл бұрын

Issues like this were almost unheard of 15-20+ years ago with the PS1 and PS2. Those controllers had incredibly durable and smooth analog sticks.

@fakuri913 Жыл бұрын

I've experienced a lot of my PS2 controller analog broke by it not staying at the center

@alfonz0010 Жыл бұрын

@@fakuri913 same here

@commonsensegaming1756 Жыл бұрын

I never knew this till recently but the ps2 had a built in re centering program that ran whenever you turned it on.. .so I ask. Why cant we have this 20 years in the future?...sales and money

@awesomeferret 9 ай бұрын

I see what you did there. 😂 Go a bit father back to the N64. It's very much revisionist history to claim what you did.

@frankhartmann625 4 ай бұрын

same

@Ragesauce 3 жыл бұрын

So basically this is an issue that these companies know about and don't take steps to prevent or remedy.

@slaternapier1640 3 жыл бұрын

money. to sell a solution, one must construct a problem

@ryanmccormack24998 3 жыл бұрын

@@slaternapier1640 planned obsolescence, making perfectly durable controllers = less money

@DAAI741 3 жыл бұрын

@@SacramentoNativ3 there's a whole lot, actually

@TeaBurn 3 жыл бұрын

Sounds like they need a class action lawsuit, if there's not already one.

@slaternapier1640 3 жыл бұрын

@@SacramentoNativ3 just the fact I don't have the tools or supplies to do so..I keep my stuff in good condition, cheaper than building my own. I'm not inside the margin of people breaking the cheap parts that these companies are targeting..

@hollydillion1315 3 жыл бұрын

Hopefully these issues will eventually... drift away.

@sandrolander 3 жыл бұрын

Im pretty sure sony can update the controllers through their software or sum. But I dont know if that would fully work.

@rayyanamir8560 3 жыл бұрын

@@sandrolander software update doesn't fix a physical damage. hahahaaa

@jillianangell2570 3 жыл бұрын

@@rayyanamir8560 they could program a higher threshold to count as a press

@rayyanamir8560 3 жыл бұрын

@@jillianangell2570 doing so would compromise sensitivity of the sticks.

@petera1117 3 жыл бұрын

Just like covid. Lol

@psychodisco17 3 жыл бұрын

I've had my ps4 controller for years now, I played 1 game using that controller for over 4600 hours and still no drift, my ps5 controller however got a drift after 5 hours of game time.

@newbulla3628 2 жыл бұрын

Same here

@delvawolf 2 жыл бұрын

Same.. had my PS4 controller for 7 years, not a single issue. Got 8 months out of my Dualsense. Sending for repairs as it's still under warranty.

@stormzo6235 2 жыл бұрын

Mine started drifting from watching Netflix ..

@newbulla3628 2 жыл бұрын

@@stormzo6235 were you watching Tokyo drift?

@stormzo6235 2 жыл бұрын

@@newbulla3628 😂😂😂 bro u got me with that comment

@hawkeyestiguy 8 ай бұрын

Thank you! Subbed! This is EXACTLY the video I was looking for. I'm in the market for a PS5 & have heard of stick drift. I simply wanted to know what it was, what causes it, & potential fixes. This is the first video that explained that. Bonus points for doing it in a concise, easy to follow, yet thorough manner.

@Omega-rf7sd 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you scalpers for buying the first wave of defective units

@yanksmc7 3 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately, the switch has had drift issues since 2017. The Xbox Elite controller has had drift issues since 2015 and the Series X/PS5 are using the same joysticks. These issues aren't going away after the "first wave". They're spread throughout the industry and have been for years.

@awesome1ru 3 жыл бұрын

My launch ps4 and xbone controllers stopped working in 2014 then i bought replacements and they still work to this day.

@jayg7714 3 жыл бұрын

@@yanksmc7 nah bullshit, it's not as bad as this..

@Christopher-md7tf 3 жыл бұрын

@@jayg7714 He's right. Unless they switch to different sticks, nothing's gonna change. As he said, Joy-Con drift has been a huge issue from day one and Nintendo has done almost nothing about it in four years aside from offering free repairs in some countries.

@goni2493 3 жыл бұрын

@@yanksmc7 my controller is not having these problems.

@BenHeckHacks 3 жыл бұрын

22 years ago the Dreamcast controlled used hall effect sensors for both the analog triggers and the analog stick.

@etaashmathamsetty7399 3 жыл бұрын

seems like a good idea...

@harryshuman9637 3 жыл бұрын

A more elegant technology, from a more civilized age.

@yourunclejohn984 3 жыл бұрын

@@harryshuman9637 it wasn’t more civilized bro

@harryshuman9637 3 жыл бұрын

@@yourunclejohn984 It really was. Dreamcast came out before we stuck our faces in phones, and allowed corporations to provide us with and control every single part of our daily lives, including basic human interaction. Back when songs had rhyme, and movies were still mostly original.

@yourunclejohn984 3 жыл бұрын

@@harryshuman9637 Movies werent as original as you think they were back then first of all, and second I’m speaking from a historically proven standpoint. We are more civilized, but we focus FAR far more on the people who aren’t

@ShermanBMason 2 жыл бұрын

I couldn’t imagine having to be the engineer who creates these controllers. But from a consumer standpoint, it’s frustrating that there isn’t a resolution to this without the steps in the video. Makes me think of all the issues with all potential futuristic tech.

@MarkMcDaniel 3 жыл бұрын

Given how much they charge for console controllers nowadays, there is no excuse for this glaring quality flaw.

@kerimca98 3 жыл бұрын

I mean the controller has speakers, microphone, haptic feedback, adaptive triggers, touchpad... Sounds expensive to build it

@MarkMcDaniel 3 жыл бұрын

@@kerimca98 -- Agreed. But, base functionality must still be there.

@ahmadjaber1719 3 жыл бұрын

@@kerimca98 base functionality is more important

@tgdude6379 3 жыл бұрын

@@kerimca98 no one needs those crappy features on cost of main functionalities

@KayronTho 3 жыл бұрын

@Matthew Harrup They just don’t build them like they used to do they ..

@royceaxle5749 3 жыл бұрын

400 hours of playtime, meanwhile professional Melee players are using GameCube controllers from 2001.

@Zoibek 3 жыл бұрын

Professional Melee players use a purposely defective GameCube controller to perform better. There was actually drama a few years back when one of the players didn't have a controller that was malfunctioning properly. Only about 1-3% of GCCs are viable for Smash

@draconitix1157 3 жыл бұрын

@@Zoibek since then the community has patched melee to make all controllers viable so the need to play the lotto for a controller is long gone

@MrGabrielLagg 3 жыл бұрын

@@Zoibek whats the benefit of playing with a malfunctioning controller?

@reeno1357 3 жыл бұрын

@@MrGabrielLagg Imagine that the Buttons you would normally need to press are already pressed in and Just need to be tabbed to read a command cause they are so Worn down that they are Not in their normal Position anymore. That could lead to faster Input. Sure its minor, but as i remember in Smash every nanosecond counts. That could be a benefit.

@DaMu24 3 жыл бұрын

@@Zoibek lolno not viable for Smash, just viable for bullshit

@starwarized 2 жыл бұрын

I replaced the rotating wiper in one of my switch pro's joysticks with one from an old xbox360 controller, and it has been working perfectly since. I recommend that as one of the first things to try, that doesn't require any soldering, only having a replacement for that part. It's weird though that old controllers were much less prone to these problems, to the point that i'm using an already heavily used part for replacement, and it has still lasted longer than the actual pro controller original part.

@heckinbasedandinkpilledoct7459 2 жыл бұрын

I wouldn’t say it’s weird that more simple controllers were less error proned. These new controllers have much more moving parts, which leads to more chances for things to fail

@castome7pi Жыл бұрын

@@heckinbasedandinkpilledoct7459 No? The only moving parts are the joysticks and triggers, that's all.

@stoopidhaters Жыл бұрын

Can you replace the entire Switch Module with a 360 Stick Module? I still love the 360 Controller because of it's stick tension. Either way, your idea is great and I can't wait to try it.

@stoopidhaters Жыл бұрын

@@heckinbasedandinkpilledoct7459 The Dualshock 4 only had Gyro and Touchpad, neither part interferred with the Sticks. This is Planned Obsolescence.

@stoopidhaters Жыл бұрын

@@castome7pi Apparently the Adaptive Triggers cause Vibrations that mess up the Potentiometers. But yes, the Dualshock 4 also had drift issues, just not as frequently.

@ohsoverytired5635 2 жыл бұрын

I’ve gone through 3 ps5 controllers already. First one started having different sensitivities depending on what way you moved the stick (super fast if left and crazy slow if right,) second one buttons started sticking constantly, then stick drift, third custom controller from a company that adds paddles, different sensitivity issue same as the first controller within a week. Longest lasted 2 months

@infinitedeath1384 2 жыл бұрын

Unlucky. I've had the white controller from the console since release and its been fine. Even bought the black controller when it released and its still fine. Been playing a lot of fps's on the white controller too and no problems. Seems to be different a lot, although I seem to be lucky. I've only ever had 1 controller with stick drift, and that was a ps4 controller I had since 2014, lasted to 2019.

@ohsoverytired5635 2 жыл бұрын

@@infinitedeath1384 That is lucky, but you're probably pretty gentle with your controller i'd guess. I'm not intentionally rough, but the game I mostly play recquires constant use of clicking down the sticks

@Danny_Delorean 2 жыл бұрын

This is my problem too l’m not a rough player nor do l play games with any need or super fast button mashing but for me the right stick carries on moving then jumps even when l’m not holding it and l don’t wanna invest in another incase this becomes a regular thing

@hexagonshorts2186 2 жыл бұрын

@@infinitedeath1384 what games do you play ?? Like if you are playing any online competitive game then drift will happen sooner or later

@infinitedeath1384 2 жыл бұрын

@@hexagonshorts2186 Well there is a legend difficulty for the new witch queen dlc in destiny 2, and I'd say that requires competitive play. You certainly need quick reactions to get through it, and I have been a bit rough with the analog sticks during big firefights.

@sadpee7710 3 жыл бұрын

400 hours is a scandalously low lifetime for such an expensive piece of gear

@lord_khufu 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah my lightbulb have 30,000 hours lifetime, this is probably not relevant but whatever

@chazzcoolidge2654 3 жыл бұрын

Best hope is to wait for both a new PS5 model that isn't bought out by bots and aftermarket controllers to come out,and that's just being hopeful.

@kirin1230 3 жыл бұрын

@@lord_khufu I love this comment

@bigsmoke7914 3 жыл бұрын

Because 400h is not true. I'm playing 8-12 h every day. From end of Nov until now would probably mean i had to buy my 3rd Controller. But i didn't.

@jomo148 3 жыл бұрын

@@bigsmoke7914 8 to 12 a day ? mightve have to consider ure playing time buddy

@sheeshkbobs0 3 жыл бұрын

Well they COULD increase the build quality to make them last longer, but then you wouldn't be forced to keep buying new ones!

@CREAOOfficial 3 жыл бұрын

I wouldn’t even care if they just sold a quick-swap for the sticks themselves. It would beat buying a new controller. If you can’t increase your build quality at least let us swap the crap out easier

@BigBall-rw2qx 3 жыл бұрын

@@CREAOOfficial or they could just make a product that work

@CREAOOfficial 3 жыл бұрын

@@BigBall-rw2qx obviously but we both know that isn’t going to happen. Hence my comment lol...

@BigBall-rw2qx 3 жыл бұрын

@@CREAOOfficial yeah lol Sony really is the second greediest company Besides Nintendo there are so many bs things you have to buy to use it like some games with the psvr require the move controllers or the little plastic gun thats very poorly made

@Frosty_V0 3 жыл бұрын

That’s why KB&M is objectively so much better than controller... I’m using it and you don’t have to deal with the many issues controller has...

@lasha500kg 2 жыл бұрын

This video was really well done. Thanks for the helpful information!

@BiG__Disgruntled Жыл бұрын

This is the most thorough video on this matter. Thank you.

@kresimircosic9035 3 жыл бұрын

Meanwhile, 20 year old PS2 joystick works after being murdered thousands of times by Budokai 3 beam clashes.

@SusWorkYT 3 жыл бұрын

@@bruce1947 I say the same of my ps3 controller lol and my dsi xl

@gester1798 3 жыл бұрын

@@bruce1947 Bro I have stepped on my ps2 controller 1000 times and yet still works.

@Jefftarnish 3 жыл бұрын

@@gester1798 its crazy how durable old controllers are. I had the same godamn ps3 controller since the slim launched, its been slammed , thrown stepped on by dogs and still works almost perfect.

@southpaw117 3 жыл бұрын

My PS1 DualShock from the first year they came out still functions like it's brand new, especially after the internal cleaning I gave it last year. The only real wear on it is how smooth everything but the right thumbstick feels after thousands and thousands of hours of use.

@qfelt_5456 3 жыл бұрын

@@bruce1947 yeah “accidentally”

@j4yd34d5 3 жыл бұрын

Imagine it was some shady ploy to make you drop $60 on a new controller every 6 months...

@Andorski 3 жыл бұрын

Why imagine? Planned obsolescence is real and this is a textbook example of what's happening with these joysticks.

@Adioownz1 3 жыл бұрын

There’s no imagining lol. It would cost them a few cents more to make analog sticks that are 50x more durable. Nobody can explain how ps2 controllers are the most durable “new” controllers ever made yet are 20 years old

@j4yd34d5 3 жыл бұрын

The r/woosh meme applies here

@andyespinozam 3 жыл бұрын

Imagine if people would be able to understand sarcasm

@user-lt7hv4uj9r 3 жыл бұрын

I feel that Xbox does this no joke. I spent $50 on a new X1 controller about 5 & 1/2 months ago, because the stick drift on my other one got so bad that is was literally unusable. I have not dropped, thrown, violently shook, or exposed the one I have now to any harmful practices and it naturally started developing stick drift at almost exactly 5 months just like the one I had before. Long story short, I DO believe it is a marketing tactic to influence consumers to buy more controllers which is sad, because do you realize how many batteries Xbox players go through?

@darekgoab9388 2 жыл бұрын

Very informative and well explained. Thanks!

@Gaming-Enthusiast 2 жыл бұрын

This I’ve been wondering thanks for video 👌👌

@timo1osYT 3 жыл бұрын

Me who doesnt have ps5: mmm yes

@greendude0420 3 жыл бұрын

Me who also doesn’t have a dual sense controller: “I have a controller, it’s just made of air”

@thepuppetmaster9813 3 жыл бұрын

@@kyleking9417 quiet fan gang

@Junior-lc2im 3 жыл бұрын

Me playing my ps3: yesssss

@mage0534 3 жыл бұрын

Same bruv, same

@oicmorez4129 3 жыл бұрын

Me who has never held a controller

@funknugget6334 3 жыл бұрын

“if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it” “if it’s broke, don’t fix it either”

@toopienator 3 жыл бұрын

Nintendo, 2017-2021 Sony, 2020-2021

@DaveRG 3 жыл бұрын

@@toopienator Sony 2020-202X Who knows when this problem will stop...

@gergo7507 3 жыл бұрын

@@toopienator Sony has been having this issue since the PS2 days.

@dmo848 3 жыл бұрын

I learned that at and 17 drunk messing with my radio wires cause I wanted them neater, yeah wrong move pop buzz. It never worked again and it wasn't just a fuse. Yeah I learned why not to fix something that isn't broke. Lol

@dystop1a293 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, iFixit

@habbyhouse 3 жыл бұрын

This is professional level info that you'd assume to learn in a University lecture hall or something. Thank you for this

@davidperry4013 3 жыл бұрын

Best way to improve the design of a controller is digital sticks which are like analog sticks but with optical encoders instead of a potentiometers

@brando4526 2 жыл бұрын

Or using hall effect joysticks like those used on Dreamcast controllers.

@Anakena3 Жыл бұрын

Yes that reminds me the time when we had mouse with rolling balls inside we had to clean it manually every month or so

@heroisakiddy 7 ай бұрын

They don't want a controller which will last a life time

@ryans413 Ай бұрын

Because it’s planned by these companies to fail so you buy another.

@eflobo 9 ай бұрын

Even if the video is a bit old, it remains up to date and the most comprehensive material on the subject I have seen so far. Kudos from Brazil!

@STBill 3 жыл бұрын

I'm using an Xbox360 wired controller for over 10 years on my PC and never had that issue.

@jayman2jay 3 жыл бұрын

Same. Had to buy multiple Xbox one And PS4 controllers because of the drift, yet my 360 controller(wired) that I bought with the console still works like a dream lol.

@STBill 3 жыл бұрын

@@jayman2jay Yeah. They don't build them like they used to.

@peterkarlsson720 3 жыл бұрын

Same same. Considered buying a wireless but still use the old wired 360, best

@chillnspace777 3 жыл бұрын

The grip and wear of my joysticks would fade before they ever had a drift issue. I had one from..like 2007 and they become flat and bald instead of concave lol

@lilbilly 3 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately, my wired 360 controller was the first of mine to drift under very little use

@johntitor1054 3 жыл бұрын

“400 hours of game time” I had drift the day I got it...

@trevorhubbard6416 3 жыл бұрын

Was it a colored ps4 controller?

@RoRo-hw3um 3 жыл бұрын

I got it after 2 weeks of cod lol. So tired of these crappy controllers.

@johntitor1054 3 жыл бұрын

@@trevorhubbard6416 no a brand new ps5 controller that came with my consle

@lingeshranjith665 3 жыл бұрын

Someone's been playing with your controller

@trevorhubbard6416 3 жыл бұрын

@@johntitor1054 that's so sad to hear but I asked because alt colored ps4 controllers have drift off the bat 95% of the time. I can't believe they still haven't resolved that issue.we got smartphones that fold in half we should have drift-proof controllers by now

@Onslaught2k3 10 ай бұрын

This is the best drift fix video for PS5 controllers on KZfaq. I fixed my drift by cleaning and greasing the potentiometer wiper and noticed my drifting wiper resistor rings were too protruded. Reduced the protrusion and with the dielectric grease applied it was fully fixed. Will need routine regressing once every year I'm afraid but the controller is working :)

@charlessmith5465 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for making these very informative videos. Got one of your fix-it kits a year ago and it has saved the day of several appliances. Reading threads about these new controllers, it sounds like more gamers are getting warrantys to defend against the shoddy design/manufacturing these companies have been shoveling out. 🤨 I wonder how long it'll be until some combinations of lolsuits, or [warranty insurer underwriters whatever], or more durable competitor, comes along and gets them to change their ways. Not holding my breath though. Godspeed!

@ravenmooore 3 жыл бұрын

LOL My PS2 Controller is still kicking.. since launch...DualShock 2 baby EDIT: No, i don't keep it locked up as a showpiece (how ever i do keep one in a box for my room), i still have my beat up controller from High school days, I play with it once a while, it's been through damage, analog stick material is already kind of sticky, but zero drift, tension is still fine. Cable a little chewed up. I play my JAK series once a while. :) I also heard of Xbox and X360 controllers lasting until now! they're really built differently back then. Probably all these wireless tech and delicate electronics make everything fragile due to complexity and add cost saving with it = lol

@rayyanamir8560 3 жыл бұрын

That's because you have kept it as a show piece.

@Limerain 3 жыл бұрын

@@rayyanamir8560 no really. I played hundred hours of button smashing games and it is still working

@Adioownz1 3 жыл бұрын

I’ve made this point on every single video about joystick drift and nobody has an answer besides fanboys. Somebody tell me why my ps2 controllers took the most abuse and thousands of hours of gameplay and still work like they’re brand new. I have a ps3 afterglow controller as well that has much higher quality joysticks than anything new today as well.

@B_Ahmed1234 3 жыл бұрын

I know right. My PS4 controller has been working fine for 7 years. Maybe some people are just not washing the cheetohs dust off their hands before playing 🤔

@Hijynx87 3 жыл бұрын

My ps3 controller has random button presses and such. It's just a dust issue I think. I have joycon drift and ps4 stick drift on my ps4 pro launch controller.

@crazycatgamer21 3 жыл бұрын

Yo this was very insightful ! Thanks !

@FireFlySamson 2 жыл бұрын

Very interesting and well explained .. had no idea of the complexities inside a joystick.. can't be long till A.I takes over!!

@youindeedsuck323 3 жыл бұрын

Wow it’s almost like they just want you to buy more controllers when your current one breaks Must just be a coincidence

@pinstripecool34 3 жыл бұрын

Planned obsolesence.

@overcastskyline1747 3 жыл бұрын

Most products are built that way these days for a reason, i bought a crt and a roku thats compatible with av for the kids room and no more broken screens!

@motordemic 3 жыл бұрын

Only reason I buy a new controller is for the stick drift

@evolvedcopper2205 3 жыл бұрын

Well, on my first ever day in a design class i, along with the class, was told "everything breaks, everything has a lifespan, that is where you all come in, you decide it" but what we were not told is the event of a CEO instructing us that weak designs make dollar signs

@morearthanhuman 3 жыл бұрын

With money involved, coincidence is what they hope you say.

@christianmason4592 3 жыл бұрын

They literally do this on purpose. They make the controllers with slight imperfections so that they can A: Cut costs of fixing the issues B: Increase revenue with controller sales

@knowyourmeme6716 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah true

@javierdiaz4815 3 жыл бұрын

C: Force us to buy more controllers

@kamrinmurphy6052 3 жыл бұрын

@@javierdiaz4815 That’s the same as B my guy

@val3nt358 3 жыл бұрын

Yep that’s how the Market works for these guys man

@urmom2a848 3 жыл бұрын

@@val3nt358 hhh yhhhyyhhh( bbm.

@jacob9340 Жыл бұрын

They're not replaceable NOR durable because they want you to keep buying new controllers instead of a new pop in joystick. They get away with this because the players will never unify and boycott these brands on the condition that they fix this issue. Unfortunately. Imagine how much power we could have

@Mr-jj3gp 7 ай бұрын

Console players love to get their cheeks clapped so I can’t blame them….

@mrsmilee 3 жыл бұрын

i thought this only happened to other people, until my DS4 started to drift, 2 yo and treated very well, not a lot of hours on it. someone needs to force companies to rectify this or extend warranties beyond the "standard" 12 months for a failure like this.

@Fast_TV. 3 жыл бұрын

This video has been cited in the draft of the recent lawsuit, it was added today. Sony gonna lose.

@mangamania5725 3 жыл бұрын

I really hope so. I've actually decided to wait with buying a PS5, after this case has been revealed.

@its-ya-boisam2579 3 жыл бұрын

@@mangamania5725 yea buy an Xbox or even better a pc

@mangamania5725 3 жыл бұрын

@@its-ya-boisam2579 well, i'm on the SONY side because of their high quality games. Xbox does not have one single exclusive that really stand's out to me. But that doesn't mean that there's anything wrong with liking the xbox - it's just simply not for me 😊 Plus their business strategy is something i can't stand behind and support. Last but not least, i really hate the feeling of the xbox controller. I'm planning to buy a pc when TES6 releases.. not before! 😉

@dilbertpickle1659 3 жыл бұрын

@@mangamania5725 silence, fanboy

@gassyroyalnova2582 3 жыл бұрын

@@dilbertpickle1659 fanboy or not he has a point, Playstation simply has way better exclusives than Xbox... that's just facts. Xbox gold however is a way better system than ps now though.

@dummy3467 3 жыл бұрын

Looks like Sony is going Nintendo’s controller technique.

@kayne_vk 3 жыл бұрын

HAHAHHAH ALWAYS

@gavinlundquist9925 3 жыл бұрын

But Sony has had this problem since ps3. I have a graveyard of ps3 controllers and PS4 controllers. All of them I’ve taken the potentiometer wiper from to replace them.

@BrySkye 3 жыл бұрын

Funnily enough, the design seen in the Nintendo Joycon is similar to what Sony used previously in the Vita. It's a design compromise to make them smaller. The reason it's a bigger issue on the Switch than the Vita? Way more Switch's and Joycons out there. If the Vita had been a bigger success, the downsides of the design would have been far more apparent earlier on.

@divagaciones1628 3 жыл бұрын

You know everyone always copies nintendo sooner or later

@kamalaharry9514 3 жыл бұрын

BUT BUT NINTENDO

@rustyshobbies8430 3 жыл бұрын

If you really cant be bothered to buy a new controller ( I know I was in that position for a long time) when you try to swap out the sticks, there are holders you can place in the through hole sockets on the PCB making the part hot swappable. The manufacturers SHOULD be doing this already.

@JustSomeRandomIdiot 3 жыл бұрын

I got PS2 controllers that still work even after having been accidentally tossed around pretty hard more than once in their lifetimes. No sign of drift, still work flawlessly. So does the PS2 itself in fact, even after having fallen off a high shelf multiple times. Still runs fine, literally no difference. I'm not saying old tech is superior but... Old tech is superior in this particular example.

@davidbeaulieu4815 3 жыл бұрын

Fixing my controlers has become a new hobby at this point.

@woorp 3 жыл бұрын

“why doesn’t sony make affordable controllers?” sony: short controller lifetime make money go brrrrrr 💰

@panterxbeats 3 жыл бұрын

gotta love planned obsolescence. shiny new toy in our pockets (before it ends up in the landfill) $$$ in Sony's pockets

@evolvedcopper2205 3 жыл бұрын

@Bo Herron true however what chris is saying is more likely because some people dont think warranty some are just trying to appease a screaming child so boom new controller bought and child is back to semi well behaved

@sissywizard1764 3 жыл бұрын

Sony: Oh did you just spent a thousand dollars on our console, $60-$70 per game you have? Would be a shame if the controller we gave you was perhaps....... unusable and require heavy repair within the first two weeks of owning it, HMMMM?

@piksqu9544 3 жыл бұрын

Also the easiest way to get a lot of lawsuits on your ass, because it's illegal

@zman4002 3 жыл бұрын

I mean just kinda proves big corporations don't care about us

@Number704 6 ай бұрын

Pre 2020 controllers worked for YEARS without problems.

@rickyalvarado9672 Жыл бұрын

Really helpful prying the sensor open and cleaning it first before repairing

@HeyItsTheWykydtron 3 жыл бұрын

Why am I watching this, I don't even have a PS5.

@toadabone 3 жыл бұрын

Neither do I, nor do I play any games on any platform.

@jyson3187 3 жыл бұрын

same

@emperorfrieza 3 жыл бұрын

You're a prospective buyer

@camrontoney577 3 жыл бұрын

I enjoy knowing some people spent over $1000 for this 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@robertorashford3741 3 жыл бұрын

That's no problem if you buy from fedex deliveries . They accept part payment too

@B4R0N. 3 жыл бұрын

KZfaqrs: "My PS5's joysticks are drifting!!" Meanwhile I still haven't seen a PS5 in real life.

@T0M_X 3 жыл бұрын

Did u not pre order?

@kaisermarxistdixie6842 3 жыл бұрын

Right I almost think the only people who have them are rich people,scalpers,and KZfaqrs

@T0M_X 3 жыл бұрын

@@kaisermarxistdixie6842 i’m none of them and have 1

@kaisermarxistdixie6842 3 жыл бұрын

@@T0M_X then a guess there is a lucky few that did get them

@augazity2401 3 жыл бұрын

its for the best i guess since you get to see the flaws of them, once they eventually do become available you can see if you truly want one or not

@slot9 2 жыл бұрын

Ahh! That dog at the end looks so similar to our family Dog (Poodle Dachshund Terrier) that we had when I was growing up!!! Also, great video

@zaselimgamingvideos6881 3 жыл бұрын

I have never had issues with my PS1 to PS4 Pro controllers and they are still working accurately so its crazy to see that PS5 controller has this type of issues.

@anderson9244MLG 3 жыл бұрын

wow, the Nintendo joycon drift is so good even Sony is trying to copy it

@High.on.Life_DnB 3 жыл бұрын

I wonder if this drift is useful in Need for Speed.

@anderson9244MLG 3 жыл бұрын

@@High.on.Life_DnB I'm sure it will 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😆😆😆

@mobai123 3 жыл бұрын

ya, at least Nintendo have the decency to make the joystick easily removable so the average joe can buy a new part and replace it. This is extremely disappointing coming from Sony.

@jolklop2327 3 жыл бұрын

Clony

@CheemsofRegret 3 жыл бұрын

I mean, have you seen sony's line up? Most of their stuff are copies of other stuff companies did.

@procyon. 3 жыл бұрын

As a wise man once said :“ it's evolving, just backwards”

@h.a.6790 3 жыл бұрын

Its evolving alright, in ways to steal money. They cannot make money from selling new controllers if they are built perfect. Its how capitalism works. Tear and wear is an issue in any useable component, I mean that's just real life, however, it isn't an excuse for a short lifespan of any component.

@Zeegoku1007 3 жыл бұрын

@@h.a.6790 I agree , but these controllers should last at least 2 years before showing up any problems...

@rl8393 3 жыл бұрын

Ah yes Felix the great philosopher

@procyon. 3 жыл бұрын

@KZfaqSucks AfatOne ok, so?

@Breakdown5297 3 жыл бұрын

is math related to science?

@ak_hoops 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this video! I guess my biggest issue is how quickly these DualSense controllers have gone bad. Because drifting happened to many of my DS4s but after at LEAST a year

@shwartz166 3 жыл бұрын

awsome vid! very informative 🥰

@NotAn_NPC 3 жыл бұрын

New hardware: drifts My old wii nunchuk and ps3 controller: still work fine

@muffet1536 3 жыл бұрын

My ps2 and og xbox controllers: just as new

@jekstter 3 жыл бұрын

my original ps3 controller sadly stopped working 😔

@TWONSSHOW 3 жыл бұрын

The Ps3 controller had its own set of worse problems.

@dabb8585 3 жыл бұрын

yeah my ps4 controller also drifts every 4 min but my ps3 controller is like new

@MidlifeCrisisTactical 3 жыл бұрын

Right? I had the same ps3 controller for console's entire life, which was years. Maybe 6 months after I bought the ps4 I had to replace the controller.

@MorsAdvancedTech 3 жыл бұрын

We should use hall sensors especially on high end controllers, we alredy use them for rc controllers and they work super great

@teh_supar_hackr 3 жыл бұрын

Same with Dreamcast controllers apparently.

@carlosramon6102 3 жыл бұрын

after watching a video by arfink explaining how it works, i can't imagine a few hall effect sensors and a weak magnet being more expensive than an alps analog stick with a billion tiny plastic pieces and delicate parts.

@ridiculous_gaming 3 жыл бұрын

I still wonder what the wear rate on RC controllers are compared to gaming sticks and keep in mind how much more expensive RC remotes cost compared to gaming controllers.

@corruptedfile5307 3 жыл бұрын

@Rowan yeah but 1 single spring has a much higher life expectancy then multiple parts working together. How many have you seen that actually fail because of this?

@detroxx56784 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, but that would cost Sony $0.2 more

@ak_hoops 3 жыл бұрын

I’m glad I’m not the only one struggling with drifting. It’s frustrating considering how new my controller is

@MiladMashayekhi 2 жыл бұрын

very technical and informative video. thx

@vdfritzz 3 жыл бұрын

the analog sticks from my ps2 controller are still perfect to this day, more modern controllers didn't share the same longevity

@slaternapier1640 3 жыл бұрын

build quality was different then, but also game construction was too. modern games, long story short, use the controller waaay more, meaning more input information like button pressing joystick movements etc

@vdfritzz 3 жыл бұрын

@@slaternapier1640 i used the left analog on god of war, devil may cry, gran turismo, need for speed etc as much as i used it on whatever i played on ps3 and 4, i don't know how a modern game uses the analog any different, i can see the use of the right analog changed quite a lot though

@slaternapier1640 3 жыл бұрын

@@vdfritzz games went from 2D to VR (that's an increase of movement on the left stick, and addition of the right stick if my history of games is near accurate, plus the VR stuff)...thus the mechanics used in each style of game then compounded=heavier use and increased # of input use from controllers within the same "life-span". generally, the quality of controllers and the analog stick mechanism has remained the same (this is different from say room-scale abilities and tracking, the plastics and hardware quality is what im speaking of), yet controllers on current platforms break faster/easier...so if the quality of the controllers has basically remained the same, but the mechanics of games has compounded greatly=heavier physical use of controllers, the variable is the complexity outweighs the durability of the controller.

@vdfritzz 3 жыл бұрын

@@slaternapier1640 2d? i said ps2, not snes games i kinda understand what you're trying to say but i just disagree, games use the analog today just as much as back then, at least the left stick, you move that thing around from the beggining to the end of basically any 3D game

@machineplayz1850 3 жыл бұрын

Vinicius Moreira Isnt the ps2 using different control sticks more expensive or well different sticks

@thedarkfluttershy 3 жыл бұрын

400 hours, for context I have 1300 hours warframe, 1000 in csgo, close to 400 in apex legends, I would have used up almost 7 sets of thumb sticks, and if I had to buy a new controller each time I did I'd have spent around £350-400 on offical controlers. Thats not only expensive it's wasteful, for context most mechanical keyboard switches such as cherry are rated for 40-60 million clicks per key, and that's before you have issues, in my last keyboard my LEDs started to die before the switches did, iv known guys to spill beer over them and the keyboard run fine, it's clear controllers are not built for their intended purpose, also the fact they use the same ones on products named Elite and pro is scummy.

@allansh828 3 жыл бұрын

My Xbox One controllers cost about 35-45 each on sale. After the sticks become less accurate, I trade in my controller for 25 gift card at my local Gamestop.

@oldman4440 3 жыл бұрын

Some of us use a controller due to a physical disability which prevents the use of a keyboard and mouse which of course is the preferred. Personally I cannot spread out my fingers nor flatten my left hand due to severing the ulna nerve at my elbow in a car accident. This makes a standard controller hard to use and the keyboard almost impossible; I prefer the "elite" Xbox since it allows the relocation of the bumpers to the underside of the device allowing me to only use the thumb and one finger of the left hand. I will agree with you that it is a poor engineering decision to use a component with such a high failure rate and not make it user replaceable. This is compounded by their poor manufacturer's warranty; if I remember correctly my "elite" was only warranted for 90 days . If it were not for the "elite" controller and mapping software I would lose the ability to play most games and as an aside I've had more problems with Logitech G502 mice failing than my "elite" controller.

@matthewperham5963 3 жыл бұрын

@@allansh828 You must have a special Gamestop. Every Gamestop I’ve ever been to will offer $10-$15 for an Xbox One controller. Anyway, the best method is just to buy your controller from Costco and return it for a full refund every year and buy it again.

@Adioownz1 3 жыл бұрын

@Mr_Battlefield 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah spending over $100 on a controller only to find out it uses the same part's as the original controller's is cheap and a rip off not to mention a scam from the manufacturer.

@naeemmerchant2184 3 жыл бұрын

imagine him being ur uncle and being able to fix ur controller lmao

@mrwendigo3374 2 жыл бұрын

I would be a lucky nephew if i had him as my uncle

@J.T.25 3 жыл бұрын

I have yet to have an issue with my ps4 and ps5 controllers having any drift, I have used both for well over 1,000 hours of gameplay, I wish the same luck for others. Great vid!

@janlowie4478 3 жыл бұрын

I got my ps5 when it released and after only 1 month the controller already drifted so bad it made games like cod unplayable

@amyhoard1222 3 жыл бұрын

Sounds about right, if you get a max of 400hrs (or less) before it happens. I hope you get it fixed sooner than later so you can play CoD again

@boogeymechas 3 жыл бұрын

At least you were lucky by being able to buy one

@aymen8751 3 жыл бұрын

Not cod only apex pubg Battlefield alote more futur games xD

@eduparada970 3 жыл бұрын

I play hours with my Xbox Series X and my controller works fine, the thing I hate but at the same time I love are the batteries

@r4z0r-x45 3 жыл бұрын

I use mouse and keyboard for cod. It’s much better especially at 120 FPS

@KZ1994able 3 жыл бұрын

So basically, you're gunna need more than $70 for controllers

@hyljix 3 жыл бұрын

what are you talking about

@hyljix 3 жыл бұрын

@Lil Neptune my dualshock 4 is still fine after 6 years

@MrDrManPerson 3 жыл бұрын

I got my got my QnBa Obsidian arcade stick used for 100$ and it's fantastic. I also just use a old Ps2 controller for other stuff on PC. The converter was like 10$.

@mrcat3493 3 жыл бұрын

I didn’t know the potentiometers had such a short cycle life. That is incredible.

@FurryMcMemes 2 жыл бұрын

One of mine have started to drift, and I find it difficult to decide if I should send it off to be fixed or try to do it myself.

@rafaelsilva7227 3 жыл бұрын

my ps4 controller has almost 8 years never drifted, my ps5 controller with 2 months started drifting

@Cryptic0013 3 жыл бұрын

They use the same sensor, so... you got (un)lucky there.

@ThomasHBeck 3 жыл бұрын

Same 🙃

@Kirokill1 3 жыл бұрын

I had 5 dual shocks across Ps4 lifespan and all of them drift. I don’t take care of them.

@ratchetptnr 3 жыл бұрын

Bought on Feb 2 n it's already drifting 🥲

@MrBombastix1 3 жыл бұрын

How is it not drifting? When i bought my ps4 a couple of years ago my controller started drifting 6 months into gaming and its been drifting ever since. I even cleaned it and all but its not worth it anymore and i am too scared to take it apart because of those 2 little cables you have to Pull out to reveal the sticks .-.

@xyannail4678 3 жыл бұрын

PS5 owners: "My controllers drift!" Nintendo Switch owners: "First time?"

@FatBird56 3 жыл бұрын

@BIG HEAD no need to be salty that he got likes

@miceatah9359 3 жыл бұрын

@sakle xbox one dont drift tho only nintendo and sony ps4 was the same crap had to buy almost 10 pads during its lifetime never broke one allways the stickls start drifting in2 cases right out of the box lmao never had that issue on any xbox from og xbox to series s

@jayskoapsk6389 3 жыл бұрын

@@miceatah9359 my Xbox one controller sadly drifts 😔

@fynkozari9271 3 жыл бұрын

What is drifting?

@NaoUtao 3 жыл бұрын

@@miceatah9359 mine drift 🙂 they are equally poor quality and demanded to be replaced for a new one once in a while.

@fearthisgamerneed4gs-skysu485 3 жыл бұрын

After dropping my PS3 Controller it chipped and I had a (non working) spare so I just swapped the half of the shell that broke. Interesting that it had the same style joystick inside. Seems like a basic and easily fallible system for what's basically used/has the most input for a console controller

@justin2movies 8 ай бұрын

Outstanding video. Thank you!

@PMVault 3 жыл бұрын

The stick drift on my Dualsense is starting to drive me a little insane with games that don't have software calibration kinda being the norm. Update: The drift is now random intense movements but not constant, weird and kinda glitchy. However, I've found if you pull the stick out drift goes away (strange) and if you push it a bit hard in it goes away for up to 30mins ish.

@photonboy999 3 жыл бұрын

Well, software calibration mostly doesn't work anyway. Like the video said it tends to just create a bigger DEAD ZONE so that it ends up not registering the stick unless you push it out of the now larger area which is going to affect gameplay usually in a negative way. Maybe they looked at the issue and thought "rather than create a workaround that doesn't work properly we'll just NOT do that and force the user to buy a new controller!" Having said that, I've used software to fix drift in the past on a controller that wasn't even defective so I don't completely understand what's going on. It was one game that had issues. Worked with a different controller yet the one it drifted with worked in all my other games. Weird. (PC not console)

@pedrohenriquemorais4979 3 жыл бұрын

@@photonboy999 the drift will only get worse and the dead zone bigger....

@martheunen 3 жыл бұрын

what we need is software calibration that we then can upload to the firmware of the controller itself for a new centerpoint after replacing pots or the whole joystick. But you know, they want your money, so they won't allow that.

@hector7100 3 жыл бұрын

Increase your deadzone settings in games

@faceplants2 3 жыл бұрын

@@martheunen It's not just the centerpoint though. If there's not a consistent gradient of voltage across the full range of motion of each wiper, it will not be able to determine position as accurately.

@center4nerds 3 жыл бұрын

Almost like they were designed to fail but weren't supposed to fail this quickly...

@mrburgerlover5393 3 жыл бұрын

I hope you live well fellow minecraft player and all shitblox kids must have cancer

@shahinkabir5566 3 жыл бұрын

planned obsolescence?

@meowrjuana1838 3 жыл бұрын

@Lil Neptune it sounds like you’re being willfully ignorant of a company’s malpractice

@xanlord2k 3 жыл бұрын

@Lil Neptune no, this is basic electronics. Don't talk out of your ass.

@mikeduff3431 3 жыл бұрын

it was a joke on the scalpers and ppl who supported the scalpers, so far i have no problems and im hard on my controiller.

@slendydie1267 3 жыл бұрын

My 360 wired controller that i use on PC is almost perfectly fine on it's 8th year granted after the 3rd year i stopped using it for about 2. I'd say its on it's 5th year of use. Only problem is that the D-pad is a little inaccurate but that's all or that the triggers squeak a little when pressed but they still work as intended so its not a problem.

@33shin33 Жыл бұрын

how is it today?

@longnguyen-li5oe 2 жыл бұрын

Crazy expertly explain....thank you

@SuperWhacka 3 жыл бұрын

The Dreamcast controller used Hall effect sensors, a lot more robust than potentiometers.

@madmax2069 3 жыл бұрын

Exactly, hall effect are very robust, still have my dreamcast and it's original controller, I've used it so much the thumbstick itself is worn down, and the hall effect still works flawlessly to this day. BUT there is still an issue where the plastics in the self centering mechanism wear down and the spring compressing (no longer providing the tension it one did) causing slop in the thumbstick. Each power up the controller would calibrate, if the thumbstick had too much slop it will calibrate to wherever the thumbstick was at that moment of power up.

@madmax2069 3 жыл бұрын

@Lil Neptune what do you mean

@madmax2069 3 жыл бұрын

@SiLLy SiiLiiNdur actually they aren't, it has already been proven that they aren't. many input devices use hall effect and due to this don't end up having issues unlike with their counterparts that use potentiometers that start to suffer from jiggle and have intermittent input.

@madmax2069 3 жыл бұрын

@Lil Neptune hasn't been an issue in any controller that use them, many flight sticks, joysticks and a few controllers use them with absolutely no issue. it would literally take a few hundred years before the magnets used in these controllers to loose their magnetism (aka not in out lifetime). and you can shield from outside influence pretty easily and cheaply.

@madmax2069 3 жыл бұрын

@SiLLy SiiLiiNdur i've never seen an instant knockout failure in any controller that uses hall effect, the failure rates of hall effect are not as high as pots, and would take hundreds of years before the magnets stop producing a magnetic field, so really its a non issue.

@DerpyLaron 3 жыл бұрын

It's all on purpose. Let's be real here. Cheaper parts combined with an increased price show a clear intension. They seem to view controllers/joy-cons as an additional stream of revenue. One unlike games you are forced to get ro even use the hardware you dropped hundreds of bucks on. It is absolutely consumer unfriendly. The fact Nintendo at no part committed to changing parts to fix the issue that got them sued is strong evidence for that

@blazinpuffs 2 жыл бұрын

Which is why I have no problem returning them to Walmart to get my money back when I buy a new one.

@matthewgalaxy9663 Жыл бұрын

Planned obsolescence , look it up my friend

@linhza501 Жыл бұрын

it is definitely planned obsolescence on their part. We all know Sony and Microsoft are selling at a huge loss for these consoles, they have to make their money back somehow and this is one of those strategies.

@trappolice9560 2 жыл бұрын

I don’t have drifting on my stick drift, but when I move my left joystick to the right it will sometimes move back to the left after letting go or if move right slightly it’ll just go left. Wondering if anyone else had this issue or if you guys think it’s a spring, joystick cap, or wiper problem

@R1ZZyD1ZZy2 2 жыл бұрын

great info!

@wolfgangkoeppen52 3 жыл бұрын

"Made by alps" I hear all of r/MechanicalKeybards screaming and crying rn, as they used to be the MX Cherry of keyboards in the early years of computing

@iFixitYourself 3 жыл бұрын

We actually had a line about this in the original script!

@samueldsouza8797 3 жыл бұрын

alps switches used to be actually good

@jacintfodor2372 3 жыл бұрын

Nah that sub dislikes mx cherries, mx cherries are popular for gamers.

@Bitbatgaming 3 жыл бұрын

Yes we are

@Nandru85 3 жыл бұрын

Remember when alps made quality products? Pepperidge farm remembers!

@korinogaro 3 жыл бұрын

Well when you sell $69 controler you don't want it to live forever. Just long enoug to get past warranty time.

@khalled2419 3 жыл бұрын

Yea but it’s not even getting that far rn. If u play an fps and try advanced movements, you shorten the lifespan incredibly

@korinogaro 3 жыл бұрын

@@khalled2419 yeah but you ignore the fact that Sony has stats of millions of gamers from millions of consoles. They KNOW how much average gamer plays a year.

@biscuitsntea421 3 жыл бұрын

@@korinogaro if thats the case then why are most of the controllers being replaced before warranty is ended Right now they're losing money from this

@kropking 3 жыл бұрын

And by that time, a bunch of new colors have been recently released, so you're excited to get a new controller anyway, and you'll willingly spend the money. These companies are pretty smart.

@dream8870 3 жыл бұрын

@@kropking and we humans are absolutely sheeps, lol these companies know exactly how to exploit us

@01MeuCanal 3 жыл бұрын

Dreamcast joystick used a Hall effect sensor where there's no contact between the joystick and the sensor thus no wear and tear!

@samisonline99 8 ай бұрын

holy!! this is beyond my expectation of difficulty to fix ! and selly me bought the stick modules already! 😅

@kpag3030 3 жыл бұрын

Interesting. Fun fact... my PS2 controllers still work just fine while I’ve had to either replace or fix my PS4 controllers twice. No ps5 yet.

@Adioownz1 3 жыл бұрын

@ducasse8473 3 жыл бұрын

@@Adioownz1 tell me why I play thousands of hours of overwatch and cod on PC and I have like a 30 dollar mouse and keyboard and none of my equipment breaks like this. But I literally put like a month of play of overwatch into a brand new 70$ controller and it drifts. I dont drop anything. I actually bought the playstation back button attachment so I don't have to press L3 or R3 for alot of games I play. I've reset and recalibrated all of the broken controllers. I've taken all of them apart and cleaned them multiple times to try and fix things. And yet they still drift, Everytime. Console gaming in its current state is luck. That's why.

@xx_mysticwolf_xx1492 3 жыл бұрын

@Jefferson Lopez you’re ps5 controller won’t be for long

@lukyrium5876 3 жыл бұрын

@Jefferson Lopez “yeets his controller at the wall because the game bullshit hella hard”

@cb6667 3 жыл бұрын

@@Adioownz1 Bec ps2 controllers are simple the more hardware you put into something the higher the fail rate ps5 controllers are incredible and really feel next gen never played with a controller like that before to bad for the drift hope they fix it soon

@VincentLloydM 3 жыл бұрын

It's amazing how old controllers in my experience at least, never drifted.

@nicholasweiss4662 3 жыл бұрын

Well the thing is, that old controllers usually did not use potentiometers but instead used hall effect sensors (dreamcast) or optic sensors (N64) which dont suffer as much from mechanical wear. In the N64 Joysticks grime could accumulate in the light path making the stick unreliable, but that can be fixed by cleaning it. Potentiometers are cheap and wear out and thus not suitable for applications where they are actuated a lot but manufacturers simply dont care, good for them if people buy more controllers.

@requiem165 3 жыл бұрын

I know right

@zerom.7642 3 жыл бұрын

It will never happen for me not on the switch and not on the ps5 because i play normaly I think people are playing too agressiv that is why they have drift it doesnt matter how long you play if someone plays not normal 😂

@danielhaase6738 3 жыл бұрын

Jup never experience this issue.

@WTB1327 3 жыл бұрын

My PS2 (after many years) and my Xbox 360 controller (again after many years), as well as my Joycons developed drift, however, neither my Xbox One or Series X controllers ever developed drift

@oscr_zen 2 жыл бұрын

[Question]: will a nail polish (Acetone) going to damage the wipers/graphite track in the potentiometer disc housing? I did cleaned them with Acetone and it completely fixed my drift issue but I dont know if I just subtracted my joysticks life hehe

@nynshawty5608 11 ай бұрын

I believe PlayStation should have a lawsuit about the faulty controllers and replace any controller that’s less than a year for free, they know their product is a lemon

@jadekaay 3 жыл бұрын

PS5: *Tokyo Drift*

@litchtheshinigami8936 3 жыл бұрын

the joycons that came with my switch: AND I SKRRRRR ! (i mean the red one i got on there now creaks when you turn the joystick.. it's done that from the moment i pulled it out of the box.. so far it works perfectly though.. so i'd rather have a noise than drift )

@PLK123 3 жыл бұрын

joystick go brrrrrr

@evolvedcopper2205 3 жыл бұрын

I'm just gonna throw in an obligatory donkey kong reference to add to your comment

@Cay9z 3 жыл бұрын

@@PLK123 bad jokes go brrrrrr

@asmranonymousgaming901 3 жыл бұрын

If they made joysticks easily replaceable then they wouldn't make money lmaoo.

@frank234561 3 жыл бұрын

They could sell us the replacement joysticks.

@hiddensinix2767 3 жыл бұрын

@@frank234561 but then they can't charge full controller price for them

@Deceptikhan 3 жыл бұрын

This is 100% the issue. They want to sell you another 70 controller, or two...or...

@attackoncake4851 3 жыл бұрын

It's 100% this. I'm surprised at how many people in the comments don't see that... "why does my PS2 controller still work flawlessly after all this time!?!?!" Like guys, long gone are the days when these companies actually cared for the consumer. The business side of gaming has almost completely engulfed most of our favorite companies turning them into sleezeballs... these are the same companies pushing microtransactions, subscriptions, etc...

@asmranonymousgaming901 3 жыл бұрын

@@attackoncake4851 exactly

@matthewspearman9334 2 жыл бұрын

Are there any higher quality thumbstick modules on the market that can be used to replace these Alps thumbstick modules because I am tired of sending in my controller and buying new ones?

@TheMoshnak 3 жыл бұрын

My dads right trigger broke just after 1 week. Now it super sensitive and will recognize the slightest touch. Super bad in certain games.

@gb7814 3 жыл бұрын

My R2 came broken out the box. I cant even use the R2 button on any FPS games. Ridiculous. I’m not good with switching from L1 & R1 either..

@axlelijah2327 3 жыл бұрын

I did that on purpose cause i mainly play fps and racing games😂

@Fabian-pp9rw 3 жыл бұрын

@@gb7814 bro you got warranty, if it doesn't work out of the box you can get a demand a replacement unless sony proves that you damaged it (which they probably can't)

@darkdraconis 3 жыл бұрын

@@Fabian-pp9rw yeah, people act like they got scammed. If its broken send it back and get a new one lmao

@doctorsaab5138 3 жыл бұрын

Sony: it's just a software issue and will get solved in upcoming updates

@bybes8524 3 жыл бұрын

Sony: Updates the software and makes it even worse

@threefeetpete2010 3 жыл бұрын

Did you hear, the ps5 SOC die has been reviewed by high end gaming pc professionals and it turns out Sony lied alot about the ps5's capabilities, Sony? Lie? Personally I'm still waiting for the PS pro to have 8.4 tflops through 16 bit operations like cerny said 4 years ago..... Oh wait

@alecatttheman896 3 жыл бұрын

@@threefeetpete2010 you remember that too looks like the ponies forget what they want to 😆

@chapman2001 3 жыл бұрын

@@threefeetpete2010 sounds like a lot of bs ahahaha

@captainMony 3 жыл бұрын

@@bybes8524 my oldest controler can agree

@BronzeLincolns81 Жыл бұрын

The biggest problem is planned obsolescence. They want you to buy a new one.

@ttvtlar2113 3 жыл бұрын

This is why I’m happy that my ESports team has a controller sponsorship

@Bunjamin27 3 жыл бұрын

As long as these companies make a profit off of selling faulty products, they'll keep doing it. Thanks for such an informative video, iFixit!!! Great script and explanation.. more more more! 3:50 - should have been Doritos with some Mountain Dew in the background ;)

@Sufinsil 3 жыл бұрын

@kazefalke They they did for the Vita. The Vita Joysticks were separate, connected by a ribbon cable.

@mjc0961 3 жыл бұрын

@kazefalke It's a fault. These controllers are only a few months old, none of them should be failing already.

@thebigsad5402 3 жыл бұрын

@@mjc0961 New technology will always have problems. It's like this with every console generation. The first year is usually filled with hardware/quality problems. The only difference this year is it's just harder to properly fix.

@weaverquest 3 жыл бұрын

@@thebigsad5402 Except the problem here is the old technology that is already known to cause problems. Though I had no issues with my two DS4 controllers in 5 years of heavy use so hearing it's the same tech doesn't make me that worried tbh. I guess keeping the controllers clean goes a long way.

@24321619 3 жыл бұрын

@@thebigsad5402 New technology will always have problems:- answer not new it has been around for years