They probably won't because of current contracts, for this generation I mean

Potentiometer joysticks have planned obsolescence built in so the average consumer just ends up buying more controllers, which is better for Sony/Microsoft/Nintendo in monetary terms

@@Mariobius I mean that's the problem in general with controlers these days. I mean planned obsolescence is one thing but this is literally designing something to fail so you can sell more.

@@JohnDoe-wq5eu Which is alot of products nowadays. They can b made to last ALOT longer, but most are designed to live a certain life to push consumers to buy more or willing to fork more on longevity.

@@Daigon95 And then of course you have people like apple who go out of their way to create as many roadblocks as possible with new products to make it nearly impossible to fix on your own. It's amazing how both aggressively anti-consumer companies have become and at the same time how little pushback there is from the general public. Do you hear people grumble and whine about these problems but they just accept it in the end. That's the pathetic part there's not nearly enough pushback, not nearly enough actual outcry and anger. Just eventual resignation and acceptance which is just sickening.

It's something that 8BitDo is SOMEWHAT friendly with. The SN30 Pro Plus has buyable parts, but they don't tell you that it comes with "tapped" (aka pre-stripped) screws of a custom size. Can't buy aftermarket screws to make it more friendly. Hopefully this Ultimate one doesn't use pre-stripped screws too since the battery is not easily replaced.

i talked with an employee about replacing parts a month ago. there is no such thing in work. maybe it will change some day. but i think, most of the parts are repairable with ebay parts anyway.

@@mr.number9279 that's true, this battery does not look easy to replace. I haven't broken any screws the times I've repaired my pro Plus so I fortunately never had to realize that myself but I agree, hopefully they are untapped and standard size.

@@mattyg_hd I didn't "break" the screws either, they came that way. It's the consequence of "self-tapping" screws. The Steam Deck, most Nintendo products, and most ASUS/MSI laptops use them too. They're either pre-stripped or will strip if ever turned due to being way too soft to actually use (MSI mostly), essentially making them pre-stripped.

aside from the soldered on joysticks yeah looks really nice for easy repairs.

Yea and it works beautifully

Really? That’s brilliant, totally getting this one.

I was about to ask this, I was Hoping that was the case. OP AF!!!

that's awesome to know, i just bought one online and was thinking on where to plug the cradle in before seeing this

wouldn't that cause more lag though as there are multiple attach points now

This is what I wanted to know from this video

brilliant !

Ok now I'm buying it lol

Can you use it like this for the PC too?

Wym dongle?

That's not saying much 😐 ...sorry 😄

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Consistently F's & D's, jk jk

Lol ur still at that point in life😂

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I'll get the Ultimate and a receiver for my Pro 2. I'll use the Ultimate for PC and Switch and I'll use the Pro 2 for playing PS2 games on an emulator since it has the same stick layout

yeah it's awesome, I like that they've supplied updates since release.

That is a good controller. Even the regular snpro is good

had my sn30 since release and no stick drift,battery problems or button degradation also the best feeling controller with paddles for me. I plan on picking up the Ultimate soon though.

I see what you did there because now stadia is now in the past, and therefore ’retro’

ouch 🤣

brooooo 😭

I'm glad I wasn't the only one who made that connection. Sadly I didn't come up with as clever a joke as you did.

DAMN SON.

You’re using it on an Xbox or on PC? Can’t find info if it works with Xbox series X or not

@@jimmyconte2009 yeah there’s one on Amazon that’s for the Xbox series x/s

@@ARod3 so you know if the Xbox branded one has the Hall effect sticks in it as well? That’s my main draw.

@@jimmyconte2009 no, it doesn't, just this one for now, but i think 8bitdo sell a stick to play with this controller on xbox wireless

@@jimmyconte2009 only the 70$ model with the switch layout has the hall effect sensor. got it confirmed by 8bitdo support. the cheaper xbox layout has no halleffect sensor.

wanted the king kong pro too. but it seems like the chromatic stuff on the controller does not last for long. and the 8bitdo looks promising. kk2pro seems to have some quality check problems too. and no buttons on the back.

@@Erbsengeneral i have the KingKong Pro 2 and haven't had any issues at all, but the back buttons have got me tempted to get the 8bitdo

@@Erbsengeneral I just found a problem that might be a deal breaker for me. I found ETA Prime's video and it mentions that on PC and Android, Bluetooth mode is only available as D Input, which can lead to some incompatibility issues. This isn't much of a problem for PC since you'll probably just use the 2.4GHz dongle, but it's a pain in the ass for Android if you want to use it for emulation since you'll have a dongle sticking out of your phone if you want to use X input on it. Furthermore, the 8Bitdo Ultimate Controller is around 20 USD more expensive than the Kingkong Pro 2, which can easily switch between X and D input. Kingkong Pro 2 sounds a lot more attractive to me because of this.

@@xykros hope its get a firmwareupdate. seems fixable

i know cause some humans were born with Shorter right arms and cant reach the top joystick like regular normal same sized armed people where naturally there thumbs lay at the same level

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Does the mechanism use any springs? The issue I've had with Xbox controllers is the analog stick sticking to a drift in forward or back direction and not returning to neutral.

@@akashmakkar7187 I have the same question. Whoever can answer?

I believe they are making a new wired version that matches this one rather than the Xbox branded one, and that might possibly have Hall Effect sensors?

How does it compare to xbox series x controller or switch pro controller?

@@zkatt3238 They do have a couple variants of this like the wired one you mentioned and the 2.4GHz only version, but as far as I can tell the Hall effect sticks are only in this more expensive version. Would be great if they brought it to everything though.

@@Marko-ij4vy Sort of a blend between the two, like the one in this video. Series X layout and texture, but a very nice membrane d-pad instead of clicking. Solid pivot point so you can't mash the whole d-pad down at once like the Switch Pro Controller. Membrane LB/RB instead of clicking as well. Triggers feel a bit different from the Xbox, but they work well.

@@Cetega Do you prefer it over switch pro/xbox controllers?

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For games that support HD rumble its great, but for every other game which is 99% of them, I find regular rumble preferable. More meaty.

What do you mean about HD rumble ? Are there type of controllers that have this feature ? Any suggestions please ?

@@naam4769 That's the marketing name for the haptic feedback used by Nintendo, but it's a tech available to any party. Nintendo uses it in their Joycons and Switch Pro controllers. And Sony uses it in their DualSense, specifically in the triggers I believe. Those are the only three controllers I'm aware of, 3rd party included. It's a much finer rumble that is able to mimick various feels or even sounds when programmed to. Old-school rumble (GameCube, Xbox360, etc.) is also haptic feedback, just a basic form of it with less variant potential.

With basic mechanical and soldering skills should be a breeze to replace,

Yeah, surely they could be mounted magnetically somehow?

Yeah, it's a shame that they are using Nintendo's layout for the buttons instead of the standard PC/XBOX button layout, that's the one big turn off for me since I would want it for PC gaming.

@@sandrahiltz The Bluetooth version of the Ultimate Controller is marketed towards Switch users. Of course it's going to use the Nintendo layout. What you're asking for literally already exists because 8BitDo also made a wired XBOX version and a 2.4G version.

@@spinzaku97 unfortunately they cheaped out on the analog sticks on the 2.4G one so no hall effect sticks, otherwise that would be perfect

@@sandrahiltz Exactly. I want those sticks. It would be awesome if the buttons could be switched, like A could fit in the B slot, etc. Then anyone with a screwdriver could disassemble, change, and it would work great!

how good vibration is on Ultimate controller ? Even on here it says that is just regular vibration, but nothing so special. I'm a bit concerned that this controller may have an even less vibration than a 10 dollars cheap controller that i got about a decade ago... Would appreciate the info.

@@naam4769 I haven't bought it yet. I'm planning on waiting a little until Zelda: TOTK releases to get the controller (hopefully at an even cheaper price). However, I've tried other 8Bitdo controllers in the past and the vibration in them is quite strong. I'd think it'd be the same for this Ultimate Controller, but it'd be worth asking others who have already experienced it or watching other videos where people talk about it.

@@moviegametime3891 Could you please tell me which controllers you used ? I may get a Pro 2 soon but I do not know how good or bad vibration is in there...

@@naam4769 Of course. The one I tried was the 8bitdo sn30 pro, and the vibration was definitely strong. And that one even "looks" more like a cheap controller than the Ultimate Bluetooth or the Pro 2, but it had a really strong vibration. I suppose that if 8bitdo can make that work on a controller that small, they can do something similar for bigger controllers.

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@@alvallac2171 thank you, my autocorrect threw that up for me lol

I agree, my favorite set pu was the wii u style with the sticks up

Cool, didn't think any cheap ones had NFC 🤔

Ngl I can live with no NFC if it means that you get Hall effect sticks AND a good SNES style d-pad for the same price as a Gulikit KK2 Pro. Plus I don't have any amiibos anyways. I'd gladly pay more though for Android support, NFC, a carrying case, and a phone clip. Hell, I don't even have an Xbox or a PS5 but put that in there too. I just want the whole package tbh. Now that'd be the ultimate controller.

Just buy both and compare them yourself and return the one that doesn't satisfy you for a refund.

@@PSYCHOV3N0M I hate having to go through online return processes and it's not like my controller is broken right now. I'd just like a better one. Since I'm only curious for convenience, I'm not that invested to trouble myself to do that kind of testing myself, but I'd totally watch a video on it and use that as a reference point for a single purchase decision. If the 8bitdo controller had amiibo support, I'd probably just buy that one.

The King Kong has more input lag than the 8bitdo.

@@DerekMoore82 Oh, that's good to know. I wonder if the Zen Pro update to the KingKong2 fixed that at all

@@Chronoflation I've heard that the update fixed it by one guy in a comments section, but can't verify it personally.

Kingkong 2 pro has better face buttons. They are somewhat mechanic, like keyboards. They use a spring to push a ruber on the contact so it fells like a membrane button that most ppl are use to, but actually can last way longer. For me this is a must since I'm tired of changing the membrane on my 8bitdo's already.

@@Aragoness kk2pro is great until the triggers give out

@@rileytedrow6732 The R1/L1 or the magnetic trigger?

@@Aragoness the triggers, r1 and l1 are bumpers

Dude my KK2 Pro I was loving it but my left trigger just died on me after like a week! What is the story w the triggers? I've been trying to findout if others have had this problem or if I just got a lemon.

I wouldn't be surprised if another ultimate is released later on, "Ultimate +" or something, that has all the different profiles and such. 8bitdo has a history of iterative changes like that.

Adam do you know the title of the switch game thats tested out in the video. Couldnt hear the title correctly.

@@dannygonsalez27 he was playing Bayonetta 3

just beware this controller is using the switch button layout. they offer an xbox layout version that is 2.4 ghz only, not bluetooth and no magnetic sticks.

Hall sensor and gyroscope

I've got the wired Xbox versions of both the Pro 2 and the Ultimate. On the Pro 2 the rear buttons poke out just a slight bit making it easy to bump them. I don't have any issues with accidentally hitting the rear buttons on the Ultimate, on the Ultimate the rear buttons fit nice and flush to the controller, I rest my middle fingers on top of them the whole time I'm holding the controller and I never manage to press them unintentionally.

I own a Pro 2 and I wouldn't say it's a frequent issue. However, I'll note that by default those back buttons do nothing.

Average is around 4.5 ms with jitter rate around 0.1ms from my tests. Cant get it lower than that average so far. This is wired.

There’s a varient with the a/b and x/y swapped for Xbox/steam layout!

@@Darkscore8 yes but that variant doesn't have bluetooth

​@@jcmorales18is there anyway to fix the swap. I play Wuwa. The game says press B to procceed. But physically it wants me to press A on the controller because A is placed on the right side not on south. Help me.

Yes Bluetooth connection does that. I do wonder how the systems default controllers avoids this issue. Using wired or 2.4 Ghz solves this issue for most 3rd party controllers tho

I have 8bitdo dongle for sn30pro+1 and Xbox dongle for win Xbox pad + wireless Xbox headset, yes that make me calm (that must be better that Bluetooth), but you very fast get used to, and think that wired will be better 😅

I was about to pick up this controller until I read your comment I bought the Gilikit King Kong 2 Pro and it had really bad lag both Bluetooth and wired

@@c2ironfist oof sorry bud. It’s been hit and miss for me. It’s like it works well with some games but every now and then I’ll have to switch modes or plug it in and it’s just really inconsistent. I’d say 8bitdo probably does make the best 3rd party controllers though. I’d say go for the 2.4ghz connection controller if you can find it. Saw one in bestbuy today.

It's already bad enough that Nintendo's official Pro controller has 12ms more input lag than the official Joy-cons's, I can't see this 8Bitdo controller doing any better. If anything, it's probably has even more latency. Plus no haptics/HD rumble and it's gyro might not be up to snuff either. I don't like it's boring sterile minimal design either. A little bit of colour would of been nice! :P

It's better than the KK2 for one reason: that 8bitdo d-pad. I was thinking of getting either the KK2 or the 8bitdo Pro 2, racking my brain over whether the Super Nintendo style d-pad or the Hall effect sticks were the better investment. But now that Gulikit and 8bitdo have partnered up to release this controller that has BOTH at the same price point, I'd be insane not to go with this. That said, if you plan to use this to play mobile games, it doesn't have official x-input support for Android, so it'll act like a Switch controller there. Also, they haven't released a phone clip for it yet like they did their Pro series controllers. So if you're big into mobile emulation, then I suggest you get the Pro 2 with the dedicated phone clip. Gulikit doesn't have a phone clip so the Pro 2 is the best bet for mobile. Also games like FFVII are better played with a good d-pad anyways. I have the Pro+ right now with broken analog caps and the phone clip and use it to play games like Final Fantasy IX. If you're wondering why the stick caps broke, I transported them without a case, and didn't realize the sticks were so susceptible to friction.

@@McCaroni_Sup it should probably be noted that the Android/iOS mode on KK2 Pro just emulates an MFi controller that's also compatible with Android. You can, however, use the Xbox mode just fine with devices that support Xbox controllers. I think the gyroscope only works in the PC mode though, but I'm sure that'll work with some 3rd party drivers on Android if it does not work out of the box. Also the 8bitdo Pro 2 in my opinion seems to not have very pleasant ergonomics

@@Piipperi800 I have the SN30Pro+ which is basically the Pro 2's predecessor, and it is very comfortable to use. My hands don't cramp up when using it and I have decently big hands. The assymetrical sticks might turn you off, though. That said, the d-pad placement is really good for JRPGs. I'm playing Persona 5 Royal right now and it's in just the right spot to make menu navigation a breeze. It's also great for older games that mostly use the d-pad.

have you tried it? and is it possible?

@@lordkaiser1404 it didn't arrive yet, it probably arrives this week. Not sure if I'll try so soon, but definitely it is possible because of some teardowns I've seen.

Good to know about x-input. Kind of an important tidbit when you consider how widely compatible x-input is, in good part because it's often the only available option.

Can you wake it when wired?

Have you scene much of the gulikit kingkong 2 pro? it might have good gyro

I wonder how many of us there are that are just looking for the ultimate Splatoon controller 🙂

Have you tried any of the 8bitdo controllers cos most of them do have good gyro and good setting for them

@@BobzBlue That controller amazingly also has amiibo support, I think it's the only third party controller that does.

I have the king kong pro 2 and use it on switch mode on the pc and th3 gryo works great. I use rewasd to configure it.

Hi one question this controller have connect for headphones ?

I'm curious too

Companies tried it and it failed… hard…

Very difficult to do

Have you tried using the USB-C wired? Does the controller work in wired mode even in X-input for 2.G mode?

@@nursejoy4439 I don't have the ultimate controller so idk, watch reviews

@@nursejoy4439 wired and dongle with make the controller x-input. Bluetooth makes it a switch controller. If you wanna use it on pc best to use wire or dongle

@@rafunson7321 you have 8bitdo ultimate Bluetooth? It work ixmput mode on PC? With Bluetooth or 2.4? I want to buy it for PC gaming

@@Dima26363 Hi, yes I do have it. X-input for pc works for EITHER WIRED/2.4 ghz connection. Connecting the controller to your pc via bluetooth will turn it into a switch controller. In case you are wondering, the 8bitdo ultimate bluetooth can be connected 3 ways (Wired, 2.4ghz, and bluetooth). Also, when in X-input mode you can ignore the switch design of the controller.

Thank you been trying to figure that out

Does it need to have the dongle inside the dock? Or can the dongle be out but as long as the dock is plugged in it'll work?

Nobody cares about your preference

Dual sense is way better

Got it for 22 :) (weird color, but still)

I got the Bluetooth one for 35

The last thing you said was probably because you didn't configure it properly with the Ultimate Software. I've used a Pro 2 and the paddles are different buttons that can be assigned to any button on the controller.

Seems like something isn't working correctly, I have two of those wired Xbox controllers and I have not had that issue. I typically have A and B mapped to the paddles, but I still use the original buttons for menus or panic dodging in Elden Ring when I inadvertently revert to muscle memory.

@@manujerozx9492 I use it on xbox. I didn't install any software.

@@Cetega do you play on Xbox?

@@kringhetto Yes, I have two of the Xbox Ultimate Wired controllers that I use on Xbox One and Series consoles. I set up the button profiles with the 8bitdo Ultimate Software app you can get on the Xbox itself.

Rechargeable Li-Ion battery will last for years and replacement is very easy, I'd always take Li-Ion over AAs that you can "run out" of, and have to go to a gas station in the middle fo the night

@@zlac He literally said in the video that the battery is welded in. And it's likely proprietary. Again, compare to their previous controller which gave you the option of what to use. Also, rechargeable AAs are a thing.

@@spiritmacardi9300 "welding" a battery is not an issue for me, and you can solder any Li-Ion battery that will fit, 1000mAh is plenty.

It looks like it can just be replaced with something like a standard 18650 if it comes to that 3.7v and 1000mah is in line with those, the form factor looks correct, and it probably wouldn't be difficult to work in. Honestly wouldn't even surprise me if that's just an 18650 in a sleeve so it doesn't look like one. Bought a speaker at 5 below like that once, it was just powered by a standard 18650 battery, put into a padded rectangular sleeve meant to make it look like it wasn't

@@liamstanks1547 18650 is more like 2500mAh. This might be 14500, the standard AA sized Li-Ion.

Prob because its uni

Because of hallway effect thumbsticks I guess

It's the hall effect joy sticks, they are much more reliable than the piezoelectric joy sticks all the first party companies use and are much more resistant to stick drift. Ironically Nintendo was the first to use this tech back on the Nintendo 64.

Obviously the stick layout is different. The Pro is great for 2D games but its shape and stick layout isn’t super ergonomic for 3D left stick heavy games.

Right? I swear some youtubers are doing it intentionally at this point. It's been confirmed multiple times by people at 8bitdo that it is pronounced do, not doh.

No one cares.

I saw that. I believe those guys also sell their joysticks for the Steam Deck. I really want to see a comparison between these two controllers.