Let’s hope they are successful. Thanks for your feedback

We do all wish them well, but success in the current environment is unfortunately looking less and less likely

I wouldn't call gbp7000 as cheap. I own a 21 interceptor 650 and I'm amazed at the quality of engineering I get for the price. Moreover, it's fun to ride as well.

@@RocketMan_Moto I just don't agree. There are no comparable bikes for this money!

Agreed 100%.

Yes but would you take your hard earned $ out to buy this bike? Very few would and I think that is the point of this video. But yes I am very thankful to them for bringing this market. I wonder if my gratitude will help keep them afloat.

Very true. The BSA's switchgear looks nasty close up

And the RE handles better.

The beauty of the Goldie is that big ally air cooled engine. This one looks nothing like it.

And the BSA is a single whereas the RE is a twin - way overpriced on that fact alone - can’t see many going for it

@Manuel the BSA, Jawa, Yezda and SWM marques are all in Classic Legends motorcycle portfolio. Classic Legends parent company is Mahindra, they are a huge Indian owned automotive business.

Yes, that's the problem: it's about $1000 too expensive, and in this market segment, that is too much

A REAL OLD 500 GS IN THE UK AROUND £20,000 . WITH MATCHING NUMBERS .🙃

Actually, Steve, if you are right handed, cerebral dominance states that the shift lever should be on the right side. Plenty of performance oriented bikers have corrected this for their bikes.

It shifted on the right side, you just rode on the wrong side! 😂😂

Hi Steve, I started my BSA life 44 years ago in New Rochelle New York. 69 650 Thunderbolt for $650. I knew nothing about them I called the local Harley shop and they said it’s a strong running bike. I still have the bike and use it all the time. You are right they are so much fun to ride.

I would agree, Matthew. I'm luck enough to own an 'expensive' Speed Twin, which is fabulous, but if I were going for a 'small' bike (which I may well do), then I would much prefer a Meteor, or a Classic, or maybe the new Hunter. Basic can be great fun, but it has to be cheap :)

I totally agree Mathew , I've had my Meteor SupaDooper since May . So far it's doing over 100mpg , will travel up to 75mph . I think it's a great bike for the money , £3600 ( bought mine 2nd hand with 700 miles on it ) Perhaps underpowered for Motorways but will hold 70 if needed . I tend to stay in the slow lane around 65 . No issues at with the build quality or reliability so far . Nice ,smooth engine with little vibration . Very pleased with it .

What "bugs" have you had?

@@fasthracing EML light kept going on and off. Oil temperature sensor as it read but apparently due the strict emission tolerances, it triggered to easily. Royal Enfield themselves released an ECU update to dealers last month to deal with the problem. Also the cat due to its location on the exhaust generally rots quickly, basic issues but easily resolved

@@matthewS993 thanks for the info

Good point

My Tracer 9 has the same valve check interval.

Agreed. Thanks for your feedback :)

I can assure you the original Gold Star could be a nightmare to start with the GP carb

@@hullygully1135 I know, and if you got the advance and retard a little wrong, she will kick back like a ba57@4d.

@@hullygully1135 Like any old bike if its not set up right its a 'nightmare'. Many confuse poor maintenance and poor technique with a 'bad' bike. I have a '57 Goldie with a GP carb and I don't have any problems.

iirc they BSA gave each bike that would reach 100mph a goldstar, hence the name.

More myth than legend, I like that :)

BSA Gold Star and Norton Manx is like comparing apples and oranges. One is an out and out racer the other a road bike. If you must make a comparison with Norton choose the International, an anachronism from decades before that the Goldie would leave standing. Your comparison is like that of an MV GP bike v a Honda 750/4.

@@RocketMan_Moto Matt’s dad. Norton Dominator 600 back in day. Seriously built up, vertical head, Dunstall valve train open intake ‘ exhaust, by first owner in UK. BSA always a “pretty bike” especially with a gold badge, chrome tank etc but most bigger bike riders in my college town rode 90% Bonnie’s and the rest Norton and Beemer. And about a dozen Harley’s at a college with 20,000 students. My Dom could outrun anything and still do the ton easily. My idea of a “proper British bike“ for today is a approximately 2000-2010 Hinckley Triumph. Lots of styles, plenty of power for today, minus tons of electronics and emissions restrictions. I went with a 955i Daytona myself. A cherry example with a racing pedigree. Power, handling and midrange power for me is worth giving up 25 mph above 160. UJMs don’t do much for me. My prediction is that once scenarios evolve a bit, Hinckley Triumph May end up taking over both Norton and BSA if the economy doesn’t tank too hard. PS triples are amazing engines. I understand why they went to 600cc class engines for the track, but a liter is more robust where it is all open class and most racing is informal. Less stressful on the engine to gen 150+ hp from 1000cc than from 600-675cc. And anyway if I run it, it will be in the quarter. 11.0 at 128mph in quarter stock. Then there’s the cans & tune from a dealership owners by a multiple land speed record holders. That & a little secret sauce think I can beat it by a few tenths. I love riding. Sometimes quickly…

Wrong bike wrong time. Should have been a 650 twin.

What rubbish, the manx was a race bike, it could not be used for any distance on an open road. The gold star could.

I agree that initial press reviews have been quite positive, but the truth is that, 6 months on from when I made this video, customers have still not received their bike and I find that worrying.

@@RocketMan_Moto Agreed I think the marketing dept of BSA dropped the ball here and mis-timed the launch of the Gold Star when they had little product. Likely a common event of start up companies. Keep the videos coming. Portugal looks lovely.

Thanks, Ronald. Ride safe :)

@@RocketMan_Moto Thanks, you too.

I agree. I wish them every success, but I'm doubtful, especially in light of all the comments in this video.

take a look at Kawasaki W800

The W800 sounds the best for sure

Agreed, by far the best looking and I want them to succeed. At the very least you should at least support them because competition will keep Enfield on their toes and producing better and better bikes

The bsa is just another one to add to the stable. I’ll buy one once available in the USA. Same a the Triumph 400. Just will wait a year and buy a used one. There will be plenty of disappointed owners out there. They just need to realize it is a thumper. I ride many different bikes. My favorite is a 84 XL350r If it had electric start it would be my daily ride. At 63 it is getting rough on the leg Maybe I can find a newer model enduro with both kick and electric.

Thanks for your feedback. I have to say I agree.

They should drop the "A" for arms and just call it "BS"

Errrr Triumph....Norton.....Brough Superior.....

Same with the new Royal Enfields, no real comparison with the orginals

Totally agree see my comment!

I think you hit the nail on the head, Carlton: the Gold Star is just too expensive. £1000 less and they'd be on to a winner, but the RE Classic makes more sense to me. Ride safe :)

Thanks for your input, George. I saw your video as I was finishing off this. It was your comment about preparing lots of parts for the Gold Star that struck a chord: it’s good business for you, of course, but you really shouldn’t have to. The bike should be rideable out of the box. Anyway, I look forward to seeing how you get on👍😊

C'est tout à fait ça, Pierre. BSA a râté l'occasion et j'ai bien peur que la Gold Star soit un poil trop 'ordinaire' pour détrôner la RE. On verra bien. Ride safe :)

@@RocketMan_Moto surtout avec la RE Hunter 350 qui va tout rafler sur le monocylindre. la seul porte de sortie est un prix tres bas

As you say, time will tell. It certainly is a good looking bike

Thanks for your feedback

Sadly it's a big simple but not what I'd consider a 'thumper'. Enfield get the difference. BSA aren't bothered.

@@heithwatkins with respect it's just a badge on a product that has very little if any connection with the firm or bikes of BSA of old.

Thanks for your feedback, Ian. I fear you may well be right, but I do genuinely hope they will succeed.

Spot on, Ian. Since you are one that appreciates the BSA brand and understands it... your opinion will most likely be in line with BSA aficionados and ones that understand heritage. This bike had my attention as soon as it was announced... I was waiting with high hopes for a genuine rendition of a truly classic and iconic bike. But, I too feel this attempt falls short in every aspect with the exception of the tank logo and how it looks from the side at a distance. Up close and from a front angle that garish radiator kills the look... and I still see absolutely no advantage for a water cooled engine in this type of bike.

I agree, they should have begun with a Lightning twin, lost the water-cooled system & made it both kick & electric, but what's done is done. I keep hearing of the anti-motorcycling laws being bandied about both here & across the pond, so it's truly too little, too late, and wrong all the way around.

I had a C15 back in the 67/68 and into 69 as an apprentice. I was interested in your comments. I have not seen one yet. I was hoping it would be a bit more like the original. But that's maybe not practical.

Good choice, the MT03 is a great 'little' bike - enjoy :)

Great choice Barrie! Way better machine overall than any "retro" lookalike budget bike :)

You have got me thinking, I am 77 and have an old VFR750, the MT03 could be a good idea.

Me too i have an xjr1300 which i love but it is too heavy, my Mt03 is the bike i use the most.

@@hullygully1135 I also have an old VFR750 and have owned newer bikes. I think that the VFR is actually better than many more recent machines.

Thanks for your input. Interesting you changed your mind. I too was enthusiastic at the beginning, but I just don't think it's going to work. Unless it's absolutely fabulous to ride, but I fear it won't be...

Good point. Thanks for your feedback😊

Totally agree with you, Paul: I wish them every success, but judging on the comments received, it's looking ever more unlikely

I agree, and that's why I appealed to BSA to let me have a Gold Star to test properly - if it's good, I will say so :)

As an owner of an Interceptor and a new Classic 350 I can attest that the 350 has better quality switches and touches... however, both of my RE's have a beautiful engine and chassis. RE has done their homework at a level that exceeds this attempt by the current owner of the BSA name... there is literally no heritage and from what I see in the bike, no actual BSA fingerprints or DNA... sure, it looks really good in the photos and videos... that BSA tank logo is perfect. However, that does not change the fact that this is an off the shelf, Rotax water cooled engine. Kind of reminds me of the kit cars that were really popular in the 80's and 90's... like the fiberglass bodies one could purchase to put on a few optional auto chassis. If one is just about a look... then this BSA may be exactly what they want. In my humble opinion this is a "retro" styled bike and nothing more. Classic motorcycle buyers tend to appreciate considerably more depth to a product than just a look.

Unfortunately, yes :( I do hope BSA get their act together and take account of the comments here. Everyone seems to be asking for more or less the same things. Thanks for your feedback :)

Thanks for your input. The price of this BSA will be its downfall. It's neither cheap, nor premium. Middle-ground mediocrity, I fear.

@@RocketMan_Moto Well, a year on from the trickle of BSA bikes hitting the market and only one, demonstrator bike, has made it to the place I live. (Guernsey.) That is with an independent bike garage and there is still no BSA dealer here. No-one seems to have taken the plunge to buy one local to me, yet. However, France is close to me and I've seen a few there, where they seem to have a following equal to the Royal Enfields of a similar size. It appears to be a success as "Classic Bike clubs" there have readily accepted them into their ranks. As an owner of a Royal Enfield Continental GT I can say that the RE does suffer with its cheap finishes on some of its cast alloy parts. The BSA seems to be a slightly better made and finished thing. Maybe that's where the extra cost of the BSA has come from. Despite the reservations about the radiator and huge exhaust pipe, they seem to be quietly selling in good numbers. Time will tell if they can keep it up!

Made me laugh too

:)

😊

Thanks for your kind words of encouragement😊

Thanks, Pete. I would definitely take a Classic 350 over the Gold Star, even if I genuinely do hope RE pull off their comeback :)

@@RocketMan_Moto I'd have to agree with you there. A "Modern R.E. classic 350" has already had all the bugs ironed out of it. There is a MASSIVE array of merchandise available for owners "Vanity purchases" and a very healthy club in the UK. BSA have a real mountain to climb and their pricing is going to be their biggest obstacle. The other thing is that "If" you have the sort of money BSA are asking for their Retro, you may be able to stretch to a genuine period bike instead.

Agreed. Thanks for your feedback :)

We're not going to have brand new air cooled only these days. Just blame Euro 5 emission regs ! I don't think it's possible to meet them with air cooled engines.

@@karlosh9286 You could make a euro 5 air/ oil cooled engine ok. Problem is when regs go to euro 6 it probably would not make it through, thus reducing the productivity lifespan of the engine. I think we are going to loose a lot of bikes when that comes in.

I’m not sure that BSA would have had the option, as the engine had originally been designed by Rotax, as a watercooled engine, when it was first launched in the early 90’s.

@@Jon-zj2nj I did not realise it was an existing engine. Prehaps they just re- sculptured the outside to make it a bit more retro looking, leaving the internal components as is. I want to have a test ride on one ....... eventually. If they get the dealer network sorted. ttfn.

2023 launch stateside

Thanks, Jeffrey. I’m with you on the nostalgia factor, but as it stands today, the bike just doesn’t do it for me🙁

Probably nothing, but you never know :)

Thanks for your feedback

Absolutely. Can't wait to try it out myself

Well put. As you say, the days of unbridled consumerism are well and truly behind us :(

Thanks for your feedback, John. I tried the Super Meteor a couple of weeks ago and was quite surprised by how much I liked it (for a RE): kzfaq.info/get/bejne/i7d-qZqCm9G1hac.html I haven't had chance to try the BSA yet, but then neither has anyone else; deliveries are still way behind schedule :(

The Interceptor certainly seems the safer bet at this stage

True, the sound is good

@ Willy Scooter - Unionism, UB40 destroyed whatever was left of the British work ethic after WW2. Fortunately Britain's design talent still thrives. Which is why outsourcing manufacturing to Asia is the only option to save British brands. Having bought fairly high-end British brands of cars and hi-fi equipment, and experiencing pathetic QC, I've sworn to never buy anything "Made in UK" ever again. But when Britain started selling its heritage (JLR, Aston Martin, MG, B&W, Norton, BSA, MG) brands to wealthy anglophiles across the world, i was reminded of the Genesis album, "Selling England by the pound". And today, when the most educated candidate for Britain's Prime Ministership is of Indian origin, I sense that the sun has, finally, set on the British Empire. Amen.

Agreed. Thanks for your feedback :)

Lol, nice reference

You could be right about the RE prices. Thanks for the sub😊👍

Exactly

Thanks for your feedback, Gary. Well, I certainly hope you're right :)

Thanks for your feedback :)

A Kawasaki Z650RS is 650cc, standard bike classic styling and starts at 8000 pounds

I had to look that bike up and it does look somewhat doable. However and this is a personal thing, but the Kawa has ugly exhaust pipes doing a squiggle bend right under the radiator, preventing one from a larger radiator. On the T120 it's easy to mod the radiator and get the 170 cooling I want. The goldstar radiator looks Bid enough to cool to 170 stock. On the kawa-doesnt like very big and doesn't look easy to modify.

@@j.d.mcginn6946 You want a bigger radiator? I thought the point was for these modern classic to have as small or unnoticeable radiators as possible? Something the Goldstar does not accomplish.

I learned a long time ago that ideally, if one wants them to last a long time- one runs a 160 degree thermostat with 170 degree water temp. Now most manufacturers don't do that likely because they aren't interested in the motorcycle lasting virtually forever, they want it to wear and need more frequent oil changes valve adjustments radiator hoses and sensors close to heat will wear out much faster too. Some motorcycles, ie my friends BMW, runs 170 stock. My triumph T120's dinky little radiator looks awful to me and indeed it runs 230 stock. Mine now runs 170 all day, since I installed a 160 stat and had a radiator custom fabbed that's dimensionally 300% larger than stock and it looks beautiful to me. Since the goldstar 650's radiator looks much larger than my T120's - I'm hoping it runs 170 stock water temp. Yes the radiator looks gorgeous to me and even has a cap where a radiator is supposed to, and no over flow tank- just like the old days! Very cool!

Thanks, you too!

Good points, thanks for your feedback :)

I have to agree. Unfortunately :(

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The big single is appealing, I must admit

No, I think you're point is completely valid :)

Agreed. Thanks for your feedback :)

Very valid point

That's my take on it too.It's not a BSA other than in name and it's not a Goldie other than in name. I'm not saying it's a bad bike as I don't know if it is or not,but the bike is a pretence of what once was and that grates a bit with me. Andnas others say the RE Interceptor and the T100 are too strong competition for it.

But then again a Royal Enfield is not the British Enfield that ran the streets in the UK. It's basically an Indian Eicher who simply attached the Royal infront of the Enfield badge after they bought it in the 90s.

@@kyakaruvlogs2784 take time to look at how Royal Enfield came to be manufacted in India and how long that mark has been made there. It was a natural progression of the mark,a very different story than a company buying a brand name,then manufacturing a poor copy of the flagship of that company's motorcycle,then pricing it waayyy above it's worth.

@@johnwood4448 yes... kinda like Jeep Wrangler... Jeep as a brand has had several owners and because of continuous production and adherence to product design... it survived and continues to thrive as a brand. Arguably the most famous... Royal Enfield is more genuine in it's heritage than most any motorcycle brand on the planet, in line with HD. RE has a rich and uninterrupted UK/India history.

And 8 months on from when I made this video, bikes are only just beginning to be delivered :(

All good points👍😊

Thanks, Dan. The Hunter now has my full attention - basic is fine, as long as it's cheap

I really don't see why people by the Royal and Fields there are so many nice restored rideable British motorcycles available especially in Europe and the UK I really don't see the reason for writing a phony British bike when you can have the real thing. A bsap 40 makes a perfect commuter bike Everyday by and it's good to up for when you do have to hit the freeways to get to the nice roads. You can get parts for them left right and Center and you can get better stuff than the factories put out when they were in operation. A 350 or 441 shooting star is the perfect size not too big not too small. Parts available out the wazoo. Plus you get to show all the dingleberries out there how they start with a real motorcycle with a Kickstarter and not a pussy button.

@@RocketMan_Moto if the hunter or meteor had the 650 engine of the interceptor i would buy one . 50 hp is really all you need .

@@frankmarkovcijr5459 come on. An old British bike is not going to be reliable. Some people who are time poor want to ride not wrench. If you haven’t ridden a RE twin you won’t believe how charming they are. I bought one and have no interest in an old British bike. I bought it as a fun second bike to modify and play around with. Like most who buy them I love it

@@morri03 British spikes can and are used for everyday Transportation I know because I rode my TR6 for 40 years and I still have it of course I had to do maintenance to it and I had to do repairs as needed but not as much as what people think when you have when you do it right the first time in the parts and the suppliers are much better than they were in the high day of the British motorcycle Empire

I think a lot of people would agree with you. The selling price is about £1000 too high. Pity.

I think they have slimmed down the exhaust for the production bikes

Good points, Robert. Thanks :)

Valid point, Graham, but I think many people fall for the looks before the spec sheet.

@@RocketMan_Moto I suppose so, as in lots of things these days.... Oh eck I said "these days"... Showing my age.

It is sort of a competitor for the Interceptor. It's a retro, based on classic British bikes. The pricing is in a similar ball park. I'm with Rocket Man on this. For it to compete with the Interceptor , it'd need to be cheaper , and not more expensive. I prefer a twin , well really I prefer triples ! (but that's a different conversation ) Currently if I was in the market for a £6K retro, I'd take the Interceptor. In reality, I'd spend quite a bit more and get a more powerful Triumph.

@@karlosh9286 Yes I see, but again the interceptor isn't really true competition for the triumph. The triumph is a deliberate retro styled bike, built by a company that can build any style. The interceptor in my opinion, is simply the best bike RE could build at the time (yes I know they are a huge organisation). If you Ride the triumph back to back with the RE, you would feel a world of difference in quality. That's not say I don't like the interceptor... I do,, for the price. But the goldstar will appeal to the older and therefore smaller generation (nostalgia) than me... And I'm old haha

@@Grahamvfr Just over 3 years ago I was looking for a retro twin bike . My first big bike after passing my test as a middle aged newbie. So basically my searching ended up with Triumph's modern classics, and at the time, the very new RE Interceptor. The Interceptor was appealing on price. I never did get to have a test ride on one at the time, still haven't. Triumph's were test rideable. That's what probably got them the sale. Now, if I'd got a go on an Interceptor, with my lack of experience on bikes , might I have got one ? I really don't know. The price was really appealing. At Triumph, at first I was going to get the 900cc Street Twin, and I almost got one. However I did test ride the Speed Twin, and I blew the budget , spent way more than I originally intended to, and bought a Speed Twin. At the time, coming from a 125 , they were all really powerful. So as surprising as it may seem, it was a bit of a challenge for me truly telling the difference between the 900cc Street and 1200cc Speed Twin. I was a bit too terrified to pin the throttle on the Speed Twin to truly tell. Mainly on the angle that I'd be much less likely to grow out of the 1200cc Speed Twin than the 900cc Street Twin, I got the Speed Twin. Not sure if I really needed that much power. This is pretty much what happened. I have ridden a 900cc Street Twin recently, and I'm now very happy I went for the Speed Twin. The difference between the two is now much clearer. Now I've had more experience on bikes more powerful than a 125, I would have been wanting to get rid of the Street Twin by now. I'm still happy with the Speed Twin. I would have almost certainly wanted an upgrade on the Interceptor. So I dunno, on paper and price , the yes Interceptor, Street Twin to Speed Twin don't look like competitors, but I was only going to buy one bike, and they were all on my list. Maybe this was because I was a newbie on big bikes, and really didn't have a clue what I wanted !

My thoughts exactly🙁

Don't forget the big ass USB box on the left bar, or the BSA stickers on the engine casing

True. Really not very elegant, are they :(

how about long term RE650 ? is RE650 popular in UK ?

@@adisakapichai5512 are you kidding, the Intercepter is hugely popular in the UK

Agreed. I would rather BSA sell their bikes for £2k more and fit them out with some decent components

I agree the pricing is critical. Thanks for your feedback :)

My thoughts exactly🙁

c90s a better bike,at least it was honest and real@@RocketMan_Moto

Lol, that's one way of looking at it $$$ :)

True

Like you, I prefer the modern heritage look

Do you think people will buy it?

@@RocketMan_Moto Hi Rocket! I think there's a chance that the BSA will sell, given that weight and good handling are no longer significant. Why? Because for example the winding country roads of northern New England or the hedge lined lanes of Kent or Devon have been turned into boring, empty straight lines. The roads of my youth were a test of a rider's skill, and the rider depended on the handling, braking, and roadholding of his bike. In a world of straight roads punctuated by suburban stoplights there will be no tests for this boring BSA. Thus, it may gain some acceptance.

I agree… and I want one of those badges😊

Thanks for your feedback, John :)

I would much prefer the Meteor over this. I almost went for the Scrambler 411 when it came out :)

Agreed. Thanks for your feedback😊

I’ll do my best😊

I grew up riding on the back of a 66(?) BSA Lightening that my dad assembled from parts. The nostalgia is strong, but if I were to add another bike it might be the Classic 350; it’s less than a new dual suspension mountain bike 🤯 Cheers…

Haha, I’ve been looking at MTBs lately. Promised my son I’d ride with him once I’m back in France. Couldn’t quite believe the prices. As you say, I could easily get a Classic 350… He might notice, though🤔

I have just noticed that you were kind enough to give me a SuperThanks and contribute $5. Apologies for not seeing this sooner, I only activated the option a few days ago and honestly didn't really know what I was doing or expect anything to happen. Anyway, I am humbled and honoured by your generous gesture. You are my first (and maybe last??) Super Thanker, so thank you very much; it is really most encouraging :)

Haha, oh yes, those cross plys... :)

I agree, and nearly 2 years on from when I made this video there are still no signs of the bike outside the UK. I have never seen even a dealer, and don't know anyone who has actually bought the bike. Now that the hype has died down, it does seem that the brand is doomed to fail.

Thanks for your feedback👍😊

Completely agree

Thanks for your feedback :)

Thanks for the feedback and the sub :) I completely agree about the Z900RS - it's a bike I've been trying to test ride for months, but the only dealer down here in southern Portugal can't get a demonstrator. I actually prefer how it looks over the Speed Twin, so I would love to see how it rides. If you ever stop by the Algarve...? ;)

@@RocketMan_Moto You have a few options. You can fly over here and I'll put you up for a few days and we can ride the roads of southern Ohio. Or you can locate a local rider willing to loan you his for a review. Or, just buy one for yourself and sell it a few months later if it isn't your cup of tea. You should be comfortable with the third option judging from the volume of bikes that have passed through your hands in your videos :^)

Thanks for your input👍😊

Thank you :)

Completely agree. I wasn't joking when I said I might just order the badge :)

Yes, the Classic 350 is astonishingly well screwed together, considering the price👍

I genuinely hope you have great fun with it :)

I love the badge, so old school

They have at least slimmed down the exhaust down pipe on production models

Yes, very competitive pricing

Yes, I think the Hunter is set to be a massive hit

Oh dear, that doesn’t sound too good. Still no sign of a BSA dealership in Portugal… or any EU country afaik. Thanks for your feedback👍😊

@@RocketMan_Moto I think the ache may be due to age and injury and adjusting the bars may make a difference.

Possibly

Agree with all of that. Thanks :)

I think they were just trying to be different, as you say

Sounds as if you got a great bike there, Pedro :)

I hear your optimism, but I fear it may be ill-placed. We shall see... :)

An Indian enterprise has bought the rights to a badge ! BSA are not 'building bikes again' An Indian company with zero connection to BSA are building bikes and putting a badge on that they bought. I personally think it looks a lovely bike..., but calling it BSA makes my toes curl

Agreed. Thanks for your feedback :)

Thanks for your feedback

Agreed

Wow😀 Very interesting feedback. Thanks👍😊

Regrettably I was somewhat underwhelmed by your concept Guardsman - although you are obviously very talented. Whilst not particularly impressed with the Gold Star reincarnation I find it much less ostentatious than the Guardsman. My suspicion is that once the sales plateau (which doesn't mean low sales) Mahindra will then commence offering many & varied 'upgrades' a second front anchor being potentially (given the present single anchor's bad press) one of the first options available being retro fitted or as standard on the later models. Likewise the suspension units, personally I deplore the exposed spring fashion & enclosed units would also be available etc.

Sounds appealing

I think you're right. Such a shame; a wasted opportunity :(

Possibly, although I enjoy underpowered bikes also. My ADV only makes 30hp, but it's good fun :)

Haha, me too :)

Thanks😊