Here's Why the Navy's New Budget is Dangerously Low

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Ward Carroll

Ward Carroll

Ай бұрын

Commander Bryan McGrath, USN (REt.) returns to the channel to explain why the U.S. Navy's latest budget submission is dangerous because of how it fails to either address current operational tasking or meet the threat posed by China in the coming years.
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@philipmoll7459
@philipmoll7459 Ай бұрын
“Managed decline” Perfect wording and goes for the entire country
@RyanRuark
@RyanRuark Ай бұрын
Not the whole country. Our billionaires are richer than ever. Americans are cowards by allowing themselves to be robbed cold blooded by such mediocre people.
@tango_uniform
@tango_uniform Ай бұрын
Sequestrations didn't help either.
@freddieward5860
@freddieward5860 Ай бұрын
Infiltration by Mexico...
@garybaldwin1061
@garybaldwin1061 Ай бұрын
Nothing better on KZfaq for military matters from the big picture perspective.
@richardprice5978
@richardprice5978 Ай бұрын
pass there 1970's chicken 🐓hacks, Monroe is foundation doctrine usa 🇺🇸 doesn't need a french forever foreign leaguen or more airplanes/aircraft-carrier probably has to much as is for defending lower 48 but is definitely lacking BB62 and heavy gun-boats and armour/something that can take hits/fire hello red-scare tactics 🤦🏻‍♂ definitely pass for me
@marktisdale7935
@marktisdale7935 Ай бұрын
Commander McGrath was an amazing XO on CG-59 USS Princeton. That was the best command team I served under.
@sshumkaer
@sshumkaer Ай бұрын
Good reporting on the show
@knoahbody69
@knoahbody69 Ай бұрын
The Princeton that destroyed records of UAP activity?
@marktisdale7935
@marktisdale7935 Ай бұрын
​@knoahbody69 That occurred, what I believe was 2 command teams after Commander McGrath left the ship. It was after I left the ship, but I know people who were involved in that situation. I can tell you this it was not ship's company that "destroyed" any records.
@leeg4804
@leeg4804 Ай бұрын
That sounds awesome. That means he must be a regular guy. Cares about his sailors
@xprettylightsx3781
@xprettylightsx3781 Ай бұрын
May God bless your family , thank you for your service and sacrifice. I made the sign of the Cross and said a prayer for your continued success and welfare. Thank you sir.
@jamesfinley1075
@jamesfinley1075 Ай бұрын
While serving on Enterprise undergoing a yard period at Newport News, I was involved in the keel laying ceremony for Eisenhower in August of 1970.
@JohnWilson-kt3ze
@JohnWilson-kt3ze Ай бұрын
Ward, excellent discussion, I hope leadership sees what you and CDR McGrath so clearly laid out. Checked into my first squadron as a newly winged ensign in late 1980. They had just returned from a nine month deployment on USS Constellation (CV-64) that had been mostly MODLOC’d on “Gonzo Station” in the North Arabian Sea as a result of the Iranian Hostage Crisis and “regional instability.” Few port calls, tales of powdered milk, powdered eggs and bug juice made with “JP-5 Water,” morale was low. Of the lieutenants in the squadron, one stayed on active duty, although he changed communities. The rest got out. You can flex and “suck it up” for a time, but there has to be relief in sight and there wasn’t. Antiquated aircraft and ships that couldn’t accomplish their missions, limits on flight hours and weapons expenditures, high OP/PERS tempo with no relief on the horizon all led to retention issues and a downward spiral that Secretary Lehman and leadership saw and set about fixing with the “600 Ship Navy.” We’re no longer facing the Soviet threat, but I’d argue the challenge now is infinitely more complex. Who do you plan on fighting? China? Iran and its surrogates? ISIS? Russia? Not to make light of a serious discussion, but it’s like a global, high stakes version of Whack-a-Mole. Thought provoking as always Mooch, thanks for taking the time!
@marcusmorehead7038
@marcusmorehead7038 Ай бұрын
Outside of the super fantastic information provided. Wards dog looks to be the most relaxed individual in the room…
@danam0228
@danam0228 Ай бұрын
Lol, has got a nice manspread going. A phrase I hate, but we're talking about a dog here lol
@dennishayes65
@dennishayes65 Ай бұрын
USS Eisenhower was laid down in Aug. 1970, launched in Oct. 1975 & commissioned in Oct. 1977. Almost 461/2 years of service !
@aaronwilkinson8963
@aaronwilkinson8963 Ай бұрын
What worry about is. when these ships are sunk. Can they be replaced. I dont think America can build Carriers.
@anotherHelldiver
@anotherHelldiver Ай бұрын
Man, 416 divided by 2 months. Quite the history.
@spartancrown
@spartancrown Ай бұрын
@@aaronwilkinson8963seeing as they’re currently building two I’m not sure I follow you.
@ronniemask5921
@ronniemask5921 Ай бұрын
@@aaronwilkinson8963 Your bot speaks English poorly.
@aaronwilkinson8963
@aaronwilkinson8963 Ай бұрын
@spartancrown They are already built but they keep breaking down. One of them is called HMS queen Elizabeth
@markcorbett9916
@markcorbett9916 Ай бұрын
It isn’t just the Active Duty Navy that’s having recruitment and retention problems, but the one in five U.S. Navy ships that have the prefix USNS and are manned by Civil Service personnel (CIVMAR’s) are having trouble in that area as well. Without Logistics, the rest of the Navy won’t be able to function very well.
@pi.actual
@pi.actual Ай бұрын
The future is impossible to predict. When I was in the Navy we were part of one of the first task forces sent to the Persian Gulf with the USS Kitty Hawk during the 1974 Arab oil embargo. Ironically one of our liberty ports of call was Bandar Abbas, Iran.
@sshumkaer
@sshumkaer Ай бұрын
Agree, but regardless of the time it is super clear that the Navy needs a massive upgrading and ship building programs. After all we aren't fighting the Flintstones in the future like we did the last 30 years. And this interview gives you deep dive, granted most of this is the same arguments of my entire life and I'm 41, but so many people just don't know. For example the navy hast been able to replace air craft fleet because the Airforce never bought enough aircraft, not only for the Airforce but the navy as a hole. Yesterday we were talking F-18 super hornets for the navy but even the Airforce never bought enough F-18 for the Airforce, so you can't even upgrade them and send them to the Navy. Today's argument is the same one, just a different aircraft. The Navy want X amount of F-35s once again to replace several 30 and 40 plus year old Aircraft and it doesn't look like it going to happen. We're a professional military everyone along the chain makes a professional salary with full benefits, Then there is Maintenance cost which also includes spare parts cost. We also have boot camp. We have R&D, we have new Procurement the buying of missiles and bullets and so on, than you have a budget for ship building which is tiny. All that to say with both current and recent events anyone should be able to see if since October in the Red Sea if the Navy and Airforce used 300 missiles/ bombs and we know some of that was Interceptors which we have the lease amount of that we aren't even replenishing our arsenal at used levels. This doesn't even cover Ukraine or our 30 years of playing around in the deserts. America going back to the 1800s nickname was the Arsenal Of Democracy, we aren't anywhere near that today, but as a 5 year goal it would be nice to get back to that place, in the single most important category Defense of our nation.
@Inkling777
@Inkling777 Ай бұрын
True, but more that any other service, the Navy can adapt to changing troubles. A single U.S. carrier can transfer on of the largest air forces on the planet to any region on the planet at 30 mph.
@sshumkaer
@sshumkaer Ай бұрын
@@Inkling777 There is ZERO picking favorites, they all need money to achieve the same future objectives of the future
@christopho3255
@christopho3255 Ай бұрын
The U.S. heavily supported Iran under the Shah. Shortly after 1979 the U.S. pivoted to support Iraq against Iran.... Then there's operation Ajax and the foreign meddling in Iran that in part led to the revolution of 1979... Talk about a cluster. The Navy can't even get existing projects finished because the prime contractors have no incentive to deliver on time or anywhere near on budget. LCS class debacle, SIOP cost overruns, Constellation class delays despite being based on existing ships... On and on. The American people are being robbed by prime contractors and the military brass are complicit.
@jtjames79
@jtjames79 Ай бұрын
​@@sshumkaer 2 billion and I could secure the entire ocean with semi autonomous drones, with multi-decade lifespans.
@natopeacekeeper97
@natopeacekeeper97 Ай бұрын
I trust Ward and Commander McGrath's analysis and experience over ANYBODY in The Beltway or Washington. Thanks, guys for another timely and informative episode!!!
@sshumkaer
@sshumkaer Ай бұрын
Good stuff, old issue, as the decades go past they have different aircraft
@cvr527
@cvr527 Ай бұрын
@natopeacekeeper97 Not quite true both of them live just outside of Wash DC. McGrath works at the US Naval Institute. They are both insiders.
@richardprice5978
@richardprice5978 Ай бұрын
o don't this mistake/mindset got the USA 🇺🇸 into nam and more than one gulf/Muslim-war including afaganistan, a place were national's go to die aka no-one have won a war with them ever, and now you're on team let's pick a fight with USSR/Russian's ethic groups 🤦🏻‍♂ how dumb are people in the western world? hopefully not napoleon or 3d-rike stupid or stubbornness, best the usa vs putan can get based off historical knowledge and figures is a draw/stalemate aka no-one win's but more likely outcome is bankrupt USA 🇺🇸 and losing like japan's ww2 happened
@user-bt8vn3dj6o
@user-bt8vn3dj6o Ай бұрын
I joined the Navy in 1974. As an organization we were undermanned, overworked, retention was in the toilet, it was hell. Sad that we are in this situation once again. (Read his substack, great stuff)
@Idahoguy10157
@Idahoguy10157 Ай бұрын
When supervisors and commanders and admirals ignore the needs of their troops. When a potential career sailor wants a career enhancing position or promotion. When at twenty years service time they retire rather than staying in. When you return from deployment and get almost no time off and away from the ship. All these actions gut the skilled manning the navy needs. Then the newest shiniest equipment won’t get properly maintained or used as it should be.
@henrycarlson7514
@henrycarlson7514 Ай бұрын
So sad , but to True
@adamyoung9132
@adamyoung9132 Ай бұрын
Why would we want a bunch of 20+ year people outside of the admirals and generals? That would slow promotions all the way down the chain and make it harder to implement new technology and ideas.
@Idahoguy10157
@Idahoguy10157 Ай бұрын
@@adamyoung9132 … not my point. The navy is notorious for treating junior sailors like crap. Along with promoting the officers who are happy to continue the tradition of treating people like crap. The only believable part of the Top Gun Maverick is the douchebag LT in the first movie made it too Admiral
@henrycarlson7514
@henrycarlson7514 Ай бұрын
@@adamyoung9132 There is No substitute for Actual experience and knowlege
@adamyoung9132
@adamyoung9132 Ай бұрын
@@henrycarlson7514 it's called innovation
@christopherbartleson8918
@christopherbartleson8918 Ай бұрын
USS Eisenhower is almost 50 years old, I can't believe it's already that old.
@robzilla60
@robzilla60 Ай бұрын
I made the maiden Med deployment aboard Ike in 79. It was six months long. We had 13 deployable carriers plus the Lexington for training.
@sshumkaer
@sshumkaer Ай бұрын
Yeah time flies lol
@sshumkaer
@sshumkaer Ай бұрын
@@robzilla60 great experience
@danielclawson2099
@danielclawson2099 Ай бұрын
The height of dissonance leading to tragedy: hear an adversary proclaim publicly they are preparing for war, observe the adversary prepare for war, watch them advance their relative combat capabilities, yet soothe ourselves that everything is okay, we can wait.
@jonahhekmatyar
@jonahhekmatyar Ай бұрын
Russia invaded crimea and started a civil war in eastern ukraine in 2014 and the Ukrainians were still caught with their pants down in 2022. I can only hope we aren't betting on the chinese being a paper tiger when the end of the decade gets closer.
@jyy9624
@jyy9624 Ай бұрын
If they create amphibious capabilities at scale they will be read the riot act, but the outcome will not be in doubt. You're right though budget constraints unrelated to requirements is bad news for the country, especially since they are related to out of control entitlements spending
@jonahhekmatyar
@jonahhekmatyar Ай бұрын
@@jyy9624 the problem is that china already has the amphibious lift capacity for a Taiwanese invasion. They build their civilian ferry's to fit military roll on roll off and have high enough ramps to be used at any conventional harbor. Not including the military vessels.
@jyy9624
@jyy9624 Ай бұрын
@@jonahhekmatyar yes that is worrisome if they continue and even with current capabilities. They are close to having the full range of capabilities for an amphibious assault of Taiwan. They will still lose, but no complacency
@GintaPPE1000
@GintaPPE1000 Ай бұрын
The Navy is only able to spend the budget that Congress gives them. If you think we’re not spending enough, don’t vote for politicians who passed a “Defense Fiscal Responsibility” Act last year, and especially don’t vote for clowns who think holding the FY2024 defense budget hostage 6 months over a partisan cat fight is a smart idea.
@MrOmega52
@MrOmega52 Ай бұрын
The problem is we are facing a financial cliff in this country, because our national debt is 35 trillion and our payment on that debt is almost a trillion dollars a year. Second, the cost of military hardware is so super expensive, it unreal. The Chinese can spend the same as we do and ger twice as much because of the cost of doing business in this country is the highest in the world. So were facing a loosing proposition anyway we look at it. I'm pro military but we waste too much money on projects that never get anywhere and the defenceman Industry knows it won't go anywhere and they take the money anyway. Also we left billions of dollars of equipment in Afghanistan that we could have sent part of that to Ukraine. Our goverment waste too damn much taxpayers money year after year, decade after decade.
@runswithraptors
@runswithraptors Ай бұрын
Glad you recognize that one can only rule by projecting force through debt and waste 😞
@MrOmega52
@MrOmega52 Ай бұрын
@runswithraptors at some point in the near future, we will be unable to make the loan payments, and then we will be in default and of coarse bankrupt. At that point your government will no longer be able to provide social services such as Medicare and, for that matter, anything else. And of course, how do we pay the military? Remember what happened in Russia after the Russian government fell in the 90's.
@wisenber
@wisenber Ай бұрын
@@runswithraptors Except what he described wasn't projecting force. It was projecting poor policy choice paired with poor execution.
@runswithraptors
@runswithraptors Ай бұрын
@@wisenber the problems exist in the context of the US maintaining military bases across the entire globe (that's every continent my guy.) Is that not projecting force? What role do you think a global navy plays😂 Sorry I'm not military I know you guys have trouble seeing the big picture, you can get there read some more history
@wisenber
@wisenber Ай бұрын
@@runswithraptors The problem with that assertion is ignoring that the US managed said locations (and more) for decades while also ignoring the explosion of domestic spending that did not exist during those decades. The groundwork for the debt bomb wasn't laid until the 2008 crash fell into the "never let a disaster go to waste" category. Then the US doubled down with piling on unneeded COVID spending (after a year of ridiculously high COVID spending) paired with "green" spending to the moon. The next decade looks to revisit the stagflation of the 1970s, except the US national debt was under 50% of GDP in the 1970s.
@Crooked_Clown
@Crooked_Clown Ай бұрын
The real reason that it cost so much is that these private Companies are charging the DOD an arm and a leg for everything. The US Government needs to demand these Companies to lower the cost for the US. They can charge the regular price to overseas purchases
@courtneyturner5083
@courtneyturner5083 Ай бұрын
you're taking the fun outta the game. LOL. The goal is to get rich off the gov't taxpayer!
@brucedklein
@brucedklein Ай бұрын
It also sounds like maybe we're building way too few of each item, especially the smaller ones like missiles. There is understandably enormous cost to design, develop, and build manufacturing capacity for the first unit of any model. What if instead of 25 Tomahawks we ordered 250, 2500, or 25,000, all under a program where govt manufacturing cost experts (not private profit corps) were overseeing the mass production buildout. Ordering in such small quantities is basically inviting the contractor to barely even consider optimizing for unit cost or production capacity, while in a real war that very much matters. (I also worry that in Ward's summary we didn't hear anything about mass offensive and defensive drone fleets, maybe/hopefully because that's classified, not because we're sleeping on it.)
@whaaaat_scoobs
@whaaaat_scoobs Ай бұрын
Exactly! I’m just a lowly taxpayer and I’m over here listening to this going “ok, I get it, we need more ships and all that. Where did the $68 Billion a year for the last twenty fiscal years go then? Why do we need to keep throwing more $$$ at the problem and why are we criticizing the folks who are saying wait a minute, maybe we already have the budget we need and we can reallocate some of the $$ we already give them.” I understand it costs money to be the top military in the world. But we are how many multiples of the annual spending of all our adversaries combined and somehow we are still worried they will beat us in a peer conflict? How is that possible if not for immense waste, and why can’t we fix THAT problem? I’m just not understanding it.
@DrewNorthup
@DrewNorthup Ай бұрын
The requirement to underbid competitors has been driving real costs up for 150 years. For some reason we just refuse to learn.
@dahllia1
@dahllia1 Ай бұрын
We should threaten these companies with nationalization. Then the country becomes the most important shareholder....
@TheRaginCajun6
@TheRaginCajun6 Ай бұрын
What's crazy is the budget is nowhere near how much the us spent during the cold war. It was closed to 1.3 trillion with today's money/inflation.
@corsair6
@corsair6 Ай бұрын
There was ZERO increase in this budget
@TheChodax
@TheChodax Ай бұрын
Too many corporations paying next to zero tax. The coffers are empty unless they keep extending the debt books upwards and upwards. Any decent president would be looking to increase tax receipts from the corporations and the super rich to make up the difference.
@TheRaginCajun6
@TheRaginCajun6 Ай бұрын
@@TheChodax they could but they don't want to lose their pocket money and upset them.
@kaesees
@kaesees Ай бұрын
Inflation-adjusted, the FY2024 defense budget is slightly higher than the FY1987 budget, which was the peak of the Reagan buildup ($850B for 2024, versus $304B 1987 which inflation-adjusts to $830B in 2024 dollars) . You're thinking of defense spending as a percentage of GDP, a measure by which the FY2024 budget is substantially lower than the FY1987 budget (about 3% versus about 6%). Now the question becomes, how much of this gulf (and the gulf between capabilities then versus capabilities now given we're still spending enormous sums) is due to truly awful procurement and maintenance and manning decisions made by the brass, versus awful decisions made by politicians, versus industry consolidation (which naturally reduces bang-for-the-buck since there is less competition), versus industry graft.
@TheChodax
@TheChodax Ай бұрын
​@@kaeseesa very significant portion of it is spent on boondonggles and keep senators happy. That money could go much further if spent properly.
@user-vq2ji7om4i
@user-vq2ji7om4i Ай бұрын
Want to add Ward how much I enjoy your channel and the information you continue to share.
@MrHappy4870
@MrHappy4870 Ай бұрын
Mooch....I can tell that your dog feels happy, safe and loved. Informative video as always. Kudos.
@archstanton9206
@archstanton9206 Ай бұрын
This is one of those cases where every direction you look mistakes are the rule, not the exception. One cannot continue to deal with the "right now" and not fund the future for long, because the future becomes the right now...sooner than ya think. I spent a lot of my career figuring out how to do a heck of a lot more with a heck of a lot less...less gear, less people, less time, less training, less of everything but missions. We got more of those. This doesn't end well. We know that because we can look at history and see where we have made these mistakes before...a frustrating and downright dangerous path.
@stevendubin3584
@stevendubin3584 Ай бұрын
it can only make sense if you are expecting a hot war in the very immediate future
@ShakazuluJones
@ShakazuluJones Ай бұрын
Sounds like some action is required, thanks for the update WD. Read Baloo's story and am a bit soggy eyed, as well. very nice tribute to him from the commander. Great beasts are always difficult to say goodbye to and it reminded me of the times we had to make those decisions. Carry on.
@billpayton5748
@billpayton5748 Ай бұрын
Is that a horse on your couch? Ha ha, ha. Nice touch, love it. Saw that I was immediately at ease.
@spaceburger80
@spaceburger80 Ай бұрын
Shout out to the fuzzy buddy maxin and relaxin ❤
@essthrice
@essthrice Ай бұрын
I don't think he moved an inch 😂
@vicnighthorse
@vicnighthorse Ай бұрын
McGrath is clearly a very intelligent and diligent fellow but he doesn't seem to acknowledge that the US has over spent to the point where there are only bad budget options.
@bryanmcgrath3887
@bryanmcgrath3887 Ай бұрын
McGrath might believe that if it were true.
@vicnighthorse
@vicnighthorse Ай бұрын
@@bryanmcgrath3887 I really appreciate that you spent the time to monitor this conversation about your talk. I hope you are right about the fiscal state of the country.Thank you.
@billlee5307
@billlee5307 Ай бұрын
Thank you both. Very important viewpoints.
@SpikeJackson
@SpikeJackson Ай бұрын
I just love it when I get a notification that Ward has posted. Get in!!
@GTGibbs
@GTGibbs Ай бұрын
It was 50 years ago that I was in the Navy. I feel for my shipmates deployed. But I swell with Pride when you show us steaming. We are the Under Cannons Generation.
@MargieDorothy
@MargieDorothy Ай бұрын
Dude, your videos are awesome, keep it real
@nommadd5758
@nommadd5758 Ай бұрын
More great insight as always. Thank you!
@D5Pasadena
@D5Pasadena Ай бұрын
Ward, I love your dog photobombing this episode. It brought the biggest smile to my face today. Always welcome!
@redrover9988
@redrover9988 Ай бұрын
Thank you Ward and Bryan for this eye opening episode, it was very interesting and informative.
@n539rv
@n539rv Ай бұрын
AWESOME information and perspective!
@twooldcampersandadog8169
@twooldcampersandadog8169 Ай бұрын
Always appreciate the analysis!
@archiehenderson2744
@archiehenderson2744 Ай бұрын
Sorry for your loss, Commander. 🥲
@carpetbagger652003
@carpetbagger652003 Ай бұрын
Agreed with everything in this visit. Always love seeing your dog on the coach behind you!
@Idahoguy10157
@Idahoguy10157 Ай бұрын
“Managed Decline” is the perfect term. Reminds me of the British Empire after WW2.
@seanwalsh2055
@seanwalsh2055 Ай бұрын
Talking about the age of the Ike gave me a flashback. When I was the Boilers Officer on USS Tattnall (DDG 19), in January 1978 we in Christmas leave period with half the crew gone. One Friday afternoon the Chief Engineer was called to the CO's stateroom. When he got back he told me we had orders to get underway as soon as possible and rendezvous with the Ike down in the Caribbean which was on its shakedown cruise. The story that we heard was that during an Atlantic Fleet briefing, Admiral Ike Kidd asked what destroyer was escorting Ike. The answer was that she didn't need one because she didn't have an air wing aboard. WRONG ANSWER! We recalled the crew in the local Mayport area and got underway with about 2/3 of our normal crew. I'm not sure about the other departments but in engineering we stood port and starboard watches (and didn't worry about paperwork). Our biggest shortage was mess cooks. We were also scheduled for CARRIBEX in February so when we left we didn't know if we would be back before that (as it turned out we did get back briefly). The rest of the crew was flown down to Roosevelt Roads and joined us there. Doing the math then, Ike is at least 47 years old.
@sshumkaer
@sshumkaer Ай бұрын
Sounds like a great experience
@courtneyturner5083
@courtneyturner5083 Ай бұрын
Maybe the low out year budget number are due the $35 Trillion debt. Also, excellent point on recruiting and retention!
@keithstalder9770
@keithstalder9770 Ай бұрын
Another great interview Ward and Bryan, many thanks. The increasing use of deployment extensions are reminiscent of the Viet Nam war days with ever longer deployments and shorter turnarounds. The eventual and accumulated effects on the Navy were devastating; low retention, low morale, increased drug use, lower readiness, higher aviation mishap rates, sabotage incidents, racial turmoil, etc. It took many years to recover. Granted, those were pre- All volunteer Force days, but that won't prevent similar problems from surfacing again. Break, break, we are not really deterring the PRC in any meaningful way right now. They are getting ready to move on Taiwan when they are ready. In fact, our so called strategy is actually "don't trigger a war with the PRC" in some way. That's not deterrence.
@dirtdiggity1714
@dirtdiggity1714 Ай бұрын
Somewhere in America, a vo-tech school is celebrating the donation of a used lawnmower engine...that was made in China with Russian steel...😑.
@sshumkaer
@sshumkaer Ай бұрын
That could be true
@magicone9327
@magicone9327 Ай бұрын
And that happens from a corporate decision to increase profits since they can’t sell the products unless they can make them cheap.
@chickenfishhybrid44
@chickenfishhybrid44 Ай бұрын
When I was on Votech not too long ago we had lots of engines donated from GM and other domestic manufacturers
@sshumkaer
@sshumkaer Ай бұрын
@@chickenfishhybrid44 praise the lord
@brucelytle1144
@brucelytle1144 Ай бұрын
​@@chickenfishhybrid44my vo-tech got a new 69 Fairlane, that Ford turned into a "cutaway" after it had fallen off a railcar. Mechanically fine, body "kinda" damaged, mostly, cutaway.
@MultiCconway
@MultiCconway Ай бұрын
Once again the observation is too few assets trying to cover too many tasks. Our good Cdr makes an excellent argument for "Lightning Carriers" that can fill CSG slots in areas where a full CSG capability is not needed. TORCH OUT
@michaelmcnally2331
@michaelmcnally2331 Ай бұрын
Not exactly a new idea. Zumwalt proposed lower cost carriers to provide numbers and basing forward where the full carriers not needed, even using them for the routine operations and keeping the proper carriers nearer to home where would be harder to pre-emotive attack them, then surging the proper carriers out to the hotspots as required. And that was back on 70s
@Inkling777
@Inkling777 Ай бұрын
One of the best arguments for the naval version of the F-35 is just that. It can operate off smaller carriers.
@hoghogwild
@hoghogwild Ай бұрын
@@Inkling777 USAF=F-35A CTOL(conventional take off/landing, USMC=F-35B STOVL(Short Take Off Vertical Landing, USN/USMC=F-35C CATOBAR(Conventional Assisted Take Off But Arrested Recovery.
@grahamstrouse1165
@grahamstrouse1165 Ай бұрын
The problem is you can only embark a handful of -35s and/or Harriers from an amphib. And they’re not really ideal aircraft for a conflict of this magnitude.
@grahamstrouse1165
@grahamstrouse1165 Ай бұрын
@@Inkling777But not in useful numbers.
@rogerwhiteway5741
@rogerwhiteway5741 Ай бұрын
I worked warfare requirements for 6 years at Lantflt. I don’t see procurement lines increasing short of a major conflict. DoD budgets are competing with servicing our expanding debt.
@thormusique
@thormusique Ай бұрын
Great information, thank you! I shudder to think how things might come about with such budgetary shortsightedness. Not good.
@Lensman864
@Lensman864 Ай бұрын
I don't want to worry you Ward but there's a very large dog mooching behind you. 😉
@subcreecha
@subcreecha Ай бұрын
Man sorry about your dog !❤ great show mooch.
@user-lq3ss9xf8c
@user-lq3ss9xf8c Ай бұрын
The interest payment on the government debt is now close to the military budget.
@ralphmarkasher
@ralphmarkasher Ай бұрын
Ward, I'm the N8 for FNMOC that submits POM. As a retired Army Officer I have been saying for several years that the Navy doesn't have enough money to cover all the things it needs. There needs to be a mindset change to how to deal with requirements.
@patgiblinsongs5
@patgiblinsongs5 Ай бұрын
Condolences to Commander McGrath. Saying goodbye to our furry friends is gut wrenching.
@1superloki
@1superloki Ай бұрын
I was on IKE in the early 80s...so 40+ years ago
@aaronwilkinson8963
@aaronwilkinson8963 Ай бұрын
Must have been well built to last so long.
@oldgoat142
@oldgoat142 Ай бұрын
I was on Ike from '83-'86 as part of VF-142. Nice to come across a shipmate from those days.
@1superloki
@1superloki Ай бұрын
@@aaronwilkinson8963 ...and insanely well maintained by well trained people
@xprettylightsx3781
@xprettylightsx3781 Ай бұрын
@@oldgoat142 I want to thank you for your service and sacrifice to our beautiful country. There are still millions of us out there that love our sailors. Godspeed and God bless yourself and your family.
@oldgoat142
@oldgoat142 Ай бұрын
@@xprettylightsx3781 Thank you. I really appreciate that. May God bless you and your family as well.
@oldgoat142
@oldgoat142 Ай бұрын
Even though it sucks big time, it's nice to see my old ship, the Eisenhower, doing what she was built to do. She's only 11 years younger than I am, (I'm 61). She was built to last. I'm proud to have once been a part of her crew.
@sshumkaer
@sshumkaer Ай бұрын
Lol great experience I'm sure
@oldgoat142
@oldgoat142 Ай бұрын
@@sshumkaer Yes it was.
@sshumkaer
@sshumkaer Ай бұрын
@@oldgoat142 That would have been exciting for me personally
@oldgoat142
@oldgoat142 Ай бұрын
@@sshumkaer It was for me. I was assigned to an F-14 Tomcat squadron, VF-142, which was part of carrier air wing 7 assigned to the Eisenhower. Working on a top fighter jet while on a great ship is the highlight of my younger years. It's also one of the highlights of my professional life.
@sshumkaer
@sshumkaer Ай бұрын
@@oldgoat142 For sure, the ship is a legend and so is the Jets envoled. Totally amazing
@bennybenitez2461
@bennybenitez2461 Ай бұрын
Cdmr. McGrath brilliant presentation excellent video a 4.0 Gypsy Roll.
@randybentley2633
@randybentley2633 Ай бұрын
Given the lack of ability to fold up like its older brother, the Osprey, the Valor’s opponent, the SB-1 Defiant, could well be worth looking into by the Navy.
@joecannuck5291
@joecannuck5291 Ай бұрын
Equipment: When was the last time the other side advertised it’s capabilities/stores/inventory! Re Manning: Retention is as or more important than recruitment! Am a Retired Herc driver who left the service because I was underpaid and there was no time left for a family life! We Needed more “drivers” with enough experience to command and you don’t learn airmanship on a two month course! Takes years wearing a flying suit to accomplish! Si vis pacem para bellum!
@andywindes4968
@andywindes4968 Ай бұрын
Eisenhower was laid down 54 years ago and commissioned 47 years ago.
@aaronwilkinson8963
@aaronwilkinson8963 Ай бұрын
Was it the first hull of its class
@psychohist
@psychohist Ай бұрын
@@aaronwilkinson8963 No, the Nimitz was.
@andywindes4968
@andywindes4968 Ай бұрын
@@aaronwilkinson8963 Nimitz will turn 50 next year (going by the commissioning date).
@aaronwilkinson8963
@aaronwilkinson8963 Ай бұрын
@psychohist Ofcourse they are the Nimitz class. Thanks. I think it's a testament to the people who designed and built these carriers to make them last so long. They are still the corner stone of the US military and the US strategy. My biggest concern is that these ships can still be lost. And they can't really be replaced
@psychohist
@psychohist Ай бұрын
@@aaronwilkinson8963 Thanks, as I was responsible for Nimitz reactor engineering for a time - though this was in the Operating Plants group, so it was more maintenance, including life extension. We really need to keep ordering two Fords at a time to build on the Nimitzes.
@Freedom1776usa
@Freedom1776usa Ай бұрын
Great episode. FACTS makes sense.
@bobwferguson
@bobwferguson Ай бұрын
It’s hard to play sandbag when you know how fast at this point technology is going forward
@subroc12
@subroc12 Ай бұрын
Can u imagine the navy we could have if we didn’t piss away the tax payers money? And actually cracked down on contracts? Insane!
@heikojakob6491
@heikojakob6491 Ай бұрын
As long as the Navy can waste taxpayers money on building new littoral combat ships just for the junk yard, the budget is still way too high and/or plain out way too stupid.
@testerjs
@testerjs Ай бұрын
If they had used that money to build destroyers and back the Iowas China would become wetting themselves right now.
@therealuncleowen2588
@therealuncleowen2588 Ай бұрын
That was a program trying out new technology which didn't pan out. One has to do such things occasionally to advance technology. Not every program will succeed. They are killing that program as quickly as possible while making some use of the existing hulls where it makes sense to do so.
@ObsidianB8
@ObsidianB8 Ай бұрын
yep, we need that constelation class asap instead of more Littoral Crap Ships
@heikojakob6491
@heikojakob6491 Ай бұрын
@@therealuncleowen2588 Doesn't matter if it's new tech or not. It's still nonsense to buy more just to directly send em to the junk yard.
@johnbronco8678
@johnbronco8678 Ай бұрын
@@therealuncleowen2588 from day 1 that sold that ship as all things to all missions and anyone with half a brain could see it would never be that. Billions of dollars and years wasted. DoD has done this over and over again and throwing more money at them has never changed the behavior, only made it worse so they can now saw oh, look how bad off we are, give us a LOT more money to fill our bucket that we already acknowledge is leaking h from the bottom. Insane
@archiehenderson2744
@archiehenderson2744 Ай бұрын
Great presentation again. 🇺🇸⚓️
@overhead18
@overhead18 Ай бұрын
Hey, at least we have a few of new, functioning (assuming the hulls have not cracked or been weakened by galvanic corrosion) LCS to use in the upcoming and current conflicts! It is nuts there are still more being built right now.
@scottrichardson608
@scottrichardson608 Ай бұрын
The particularities of the next conflict may be unpredictable. The outcome of failing to fund readiness...not so much.
@sshumkaer
@sshumkaer Ай бұрын
True and all 4 branches including cost guard are short money
@DavidHamby-ORF-48
@DavidHamby-ORF-48 Ай бұрын
A multi legged creature upstaged you shortly after the opening. Dysfunctional Congress makes regular order budgeting and strategic planning impossible. Neither party has the deep subject matter expertise that the post WWII era congresses had. Committee processes have atrophied relative to the Cold War era.
@patgiblinsongs5
@patgiblinsongs5 Ай бұрын
Thank you, Ward. I hope that someone of influence in the DoD is watching and learning!
@jrmotorsports5532
@jrmotorsports5532 Ай бұрын
Excellent analysis, definitely worrying what the future holds.
@davefellhoelter1343
@davefellhoelter1343 Ай бұрын
Moral in all branches is the missing link. No need for new equipment if we have NO ONE competent or willing to use any equipment. How long before the "draft?" may be the real pink elephant in the corner? or correct question at this time with three wars! or three? fronts?
@johnbronco8678
@johnbronco8678 Ай бұрын
$35T debt and growing by $1T every 100 days. Don’t disagree more assets are probably needed but the entire federal budget is bankrupting us. Fact. And, DoD Absolutley sucks at spending money wisely and efficiently, and we all know that. Easier just to ask for more
@regbale
@regbale Ай бұрын
Perhaps true; however, I’d rather see the economy driven off the DoD than the $ go to China and unbalanced trade and green climate fever dream.
@ponz-
@ponz- Ай бұрын
Like them wanting a train on the moon?
@July41776DedicatedtoTheProposi
@July41776DedicatedtoTheProposi Ай бұрын
TAX all wealth, all income, go to war footing, quadruple all shipyards, weapon supply chains, implement 2 months on one off, for NATO and America.
@vicnighthorse
@vicnighthorse Ай бұрын
The republic has already failed. The voters have proven incapable of balancing income and spending.
@courtneyturner5083
@courtneyturner5083 Ай бұрын
as a former DOD contracting officer, it's not that the government sucks at procurement.....the issue is the Defense Industry is an oligopoly. They set the price....little to no competition for the bigger ticket systems.
@jaredwren9304
@jaredwren9304 Ай бұрын
Thanks, Mooch.
@michaelmeehan9083
@michaelmeehan9083 Ай бұрын
Our shipbuilding and repair industrial capacity is woefully inadequate to maintain parity with our "pacing threat". Our current readiness is inadequate, and our capacity to ramp it up isn't there. We need more shipyards doing construction, maintenance, and repair.
@user-gf3lw5pi4t
@user-gf3lw5pi4t Ай бұрын
China has 300% more ship building capacity , and growing
@christopho3255
@christopho3255 Ай бұрын
Ward.... Consolidating prime contractors are a large part of the problem..... SIOP projected costs are billions higher per drydock site year over year based on GAO reports plus the Navy didn't even require a full cost projection. Every major ship under construction is far behind schedule and far more expensive. How many billions are literally wasted on the LCS class debacle? The USS enterprise CVN80 is delayed 18 months. It's going to take 10 years to build. The Constellation frigates are 3 years behind despite being based on existing ships... More money isnt the solution for a cost plus procurement system when prime contactors have zero incentive to deliver on time and on budget.....
@BCSchmerker
@BCSchmerker Ай бұрын
@christopho3255 *Thus the delays refueling the U. S. Navy CVAN-68 Class.* And constructing the CVBN-78 Class.
@adorabledeplorable5105
@adorabledeplorable5105 Ай бұрын
Looks like Xi and the big guy are in tune together . And not just 10% .
@Arturo-lapaz
@Arturo-lapaz Ай бұрын
We desperately need a militia of volunteers, not a restricted national guard, in the exact meaning on the constitution
@BV-fr8bf
@BV-fr8bf Ай бұрын
Excellent analysis. Sad situation for the US Navy and Marine Corp.
@rinchy1
@rinchy1 Ай бұрын
Sir. I will be visiting the DC area at the end of April. I would relish the opportunity to buy you a coffee (or frosty beverage). I'm a 20 year retired HM1(FMF) and greatly value your frequent updates on our BELOVED Navy. I'm happy to share contact details at your leisure. Thank you sir.
@MrHAPPYHAWAIIAN
@MrHAPPYHAWAIIAN Ай бұрын
The Military Industrial Complex. Always saying it’s broke. Also the Black OPS budget. No one really knows how much money is spent in this area.
@randogame4438
@randogame4438 Ай бұрын
If by no one knows how much goes into BOB, it means our adversaries don't either then Bravo.
@mitchconner403
@mitchconner403 Ай бұрын
When anyone says, “military industrial complex” unironically 👀
@Ranchhand323
@Ranchhand323 Ай бұрын
And the new builds are seriously behind schedule.
@aaronwilkinson8963
@aaronwilkinson8963 Ай бұрын
Who can build these ships anyway.
@robertf3479
@robertf3479 Ай бұрын
@@aaronwilkinson8963 We have only a handful of shipbuilders in this country able to build frigate sized or larger surface combatants and submarines. These have become so specialized that asking them to build anything else only earns you a stony glare. We really don't build much of anything other than warships in this country and not enough of those to keep those yards busy enough to keep them efficient.
@aaronwilkinson8963
@aaronwilkinson8963 Ай бұрын
@robertf3479 I'm British and we managed to build a couple of futuristic aircraft carriers. Only if they worked mind you. I hear one will be mothballed and used for spare parts. Scrapped in effect. We don't have any jets to put on them any way. We sold off all our Harriers to the US marines. The truth is if we did go to war with the Russians and the Chinese and we came into range of those hypersonic missiles they have. Those carriers would be at the bottom of the ocean within a flash. But the real truth is that they are so valuable and irreplaceable we probably wouldn't ever commit them.
@Belisarius1967
@Belisarius1967 Ай бұрын
@@aaronwilkinson8963 Where did you hear we are mothballing one of the carriers ? The fact you repeat the tabloid BS about having no jets to put on them causes me considerable scepticism as to your knowledge of the subject.
@aaronwilkinson8963
@aaronwilkinson8963 Ай бұрын
@Belisarius1967 Just done a Google search. There is talk of mothballing one of the carriers but the MOD Denies it. That's where I have heard it. Just because the MOD Denies something doesn't mean you should believe them. Like they need to tell us the truth.
@blt981
@blt981 Ай бұрын
That’s very interesting. I don’t have a naval background but understand as a retiree in public safety how this impacts the US
@banger1965
@banger1965 Ай бұрын
Thank you
@stevesangster626
@stevesangster626 Ай бұрын
I want a new car, but it is either that or no groceries for 3 years. I chose food, and to keep my current car in well maintained condition. There is only so much money to go around..........
@kCI251
@kCI251 Ай бұрын
Our elected officials just keep spending money and expect our Grandkids to pay it off.
@wayne9287
@wayne9287 Ай бұрын
​@@kCI251Because most of them are there for benefits and opportunities. They don't care about your family or your culture.
@sshumkaer
@sshumkaer Ай бұрын
It's not the same thing. There is modernization needed, that happens to platforms that can be modernized, than there are the thing's that have no use any longer, than there are the big ticket generational builds best off generational technology discovery. You can maintain your car, but the military can't role the ball down the road like that. It's all the branches. The only thing that keeps a solider alive in the modern battfiled is expensive technology that protects them. We don't even say the Coast Guard they need new ships as well.
@sshumkaer
@sshumkaer Ай бұрын
@kCI251 incorrect, the military has nothing to do do with your nation financial issue, it literally only makes up 16% of the nation budget. However those 3 things that no one want to fix are bankrupting your country Social Security, Medicaid, Medicare in 2018 made up 60% of the entire national budget, it's higher today
@sshumkaer
@sshumkaer Ай бұрын
@wayne9287 and none of thar matters, either way they have become soldiers and they are entitled to those benefits, less than 3% of the nation is military none of this is hurting the country.
@DonWan47
@DonWan47 Ай бұрын
Only in America could a trillion dollar budget be described as defence on the cheap. Ridiculous.
@stevenwiederholt7000
@stevenwiederholt7000 Ай бұрын
@DonWan47 "Only in America could a trillion dollar budget be described as defence on the cheap. Ridiculous." Ever look at Entitlements? THAT is 1. Where The Real Money is, 2. Talk about waste!
@DonWan47
@DonWan47 Ай бұрын
@@stevenwiederholt7000 Have a look at corporate welfare and tax breaks for corporations and billionaires, there’s you’re problem. Every civilised nation has universal healthcare but you prefers people to die in poverty.
@richdurbin6146
@richdurbin6146 Ай бұрын
The federal govt. spent 6.1 trillion in 2023. Less than a trillion on defense. So what can we defund to shift to defense, and who is going to scream like a stuck pig when we do it. And that’s with spending a couple trillion more than revenue as it is.
@jessehachey2732
@jessehachey2732 27 күн бұрын
@@richdurbin6146Stop giving g tax cuts to the ultra rich. For starters! That alone put y’all a trillion more in debt. You could provide everyone with decent universal health care if you actually taxed people proportionally…🙄🤦🏼‍♂️
@DonWan47
@DonWan47 8 күн бұрын
@@stevenwiederholt7000 I have healthcare funded through my taxes, my country has no mass shootings, I have six weeks paid vacation, my wife has maternity leave and maternity pay, my kids go to great schools, and the police answer to the people. What do you have?
@michaelmeehan9083
@michaelmeehan9083 Ай бұрын
When you stop building ships, you lose shipbuilding skills...ramping back up becomes extremely difficult. Those skills take years if not decades to develop.
@user-gf3lw5pi4t
@user-gf3lw5pi4t Ай бұрын
They have shipped the industrial base to China , they have 300% more ship building capacity , we will never be able to win a major war with a peer combatant , its going to be a one shot deal , then nothing, it’s time to exit nato and any Asian defense agreements we have , trying to be the cop of the world will lead to the destruction of our Republic
@charlesfox8638
@charlesfox8638 Ай бұрын
I've been mega keen for this..ordered from 2 different suppliers. for some reason UK11/US12 /EU46.5 my usual was slow to launch. But after some midfoot pain in my torin 7s I went uk11.5/us12.5/eu47 and am very happy. First run a hard 25km workout. The a 13km including 5k race PB - then my A race this Sunday - Brighton marathon. Felt great. As I hadn't had tons if distance in them I had my mum and wife on the course with some Escalante racer and saucony endorphin speed 3 backup options. - didn't need then. Was happy with the shoes. Went out too hard at 2:48 pace (was shooting for sub 3 pace) 40 minute 10k - 1:26 half and succum ti cramps from 30k - 7 x cramp walk rest pauses slowed me to finish 3:05:10. Hamstring/quad cramps did me. First half of course quite hilly and windy and pushed too hard... Slight wear now after 80k. But nowhere near what everyone reported for the VC1s - should get 300km plus. Only problem is I love them - so don't want to destroy them on a potential small club trail/path marathon in a few weeks that scuffs things up a lot for another sub 3 attempt. May try endorphin speed 3 for that. Or find a better surface and go with the VC2s again.
@ricksizemore8637
@ricksizemore8637 Ай бұрын
9+ months?? Limited port calls = I wouldn’t want my married spouse on that cruise!!
@randogame4438
@randogame4438 Ай бұрын
When I enlisted in '73 a 9 mo tour was standard.
@babboon5764
@babboon5764 Ай бұрын
And THAT is why recruitment & retention will get harder & harder
@benjaminperez7328
@benjaminperez7328 Ай бұрын
If the Navy wanted you to have a wife or husband…………. something, something about a seabag?
@ricksizemore8637
@ricksizemore8637 Ай бұрын
I met with one of the first female enlisted to serve in an aircraft carrier while going to a school near Quantico Virginia. Discovered this in our conversation about our experience in the Navy. I told her I was against this policy. She was shocked, so I went on to explain why. After discussing the advantages and disadvantages she actually agreed with me. I served at sea on six carriers. One active duty CVN65 77-81. And five east coast carriers 1985-1992as a F14 civilian radar tech rep. Times be uh changing I guess. 👍👍🥃🥃🍺🍺😎
@Inkling777
@Inkling777 Ай бұрын
This issue seems to have begun back in the 1990s when the USAF began to demand that married men spend duty time in Minutemen silos with a woman-two being required to launch the missiles. No opting out, even for men wanting to save already shaky marriage. And when you're talking about long carrier assignments, the problem doubles. It also becomes, "Is he/she cheating back home because he/she thinks he/she is cheating on that carrier?" Long ago I talked to someone who'd been given 45-minutes notice to go on a six-month carrier cruise with a wife eight-months pregnant. As he told me, "I went, but from that moment on I was out of the Navy." *Some of those who provide our military with the best service are precisely those who made deep commitments. They will leave the military rather than put their marriages and children at risk.*
@michaelchan1081
@michaelchan1081 Ай бұрын
great topic and broadcast. couple of thoughts. our adversaries probably read our budget more than our congressmen/women. this emboldens the bad player. they are planning based on our posture and capability in the future. we, at least at the political level, do no planning. dod procurement is a slow slogging process. not too different from turning a large ship. things change, sometimes significantly, during the acquisition process. this adds to the complexity and cost. if you want red china controlling the supply of iphone chip production, we are headed in the right direction. most people don't understand that dod's budget affects our whole society. disclosure: worked at china lake for 39 years. r&d administration/execution for most of that time. followed the fydp page by page, not must for china lake programs, but programs that were relative/competitive to those programs. not only do we need to resupply operational inventory, but if we don't invest in r&d, the inventory does not keep up with adversarial capability. the world is a dangerous place and getting more dangerous by the day. we ignore that at our own peril.
@teashea1
@teashea1 Ай бұрын
very interesting indeed
@Dogwalkeroftwo
@Dogwalkeroftwo Ай бұрын
Love your dog lounging on the couch!
@Forthecasuals
@Forthecasuals Ай бұрын
This is where light carriers were so important to the Navy in the middle of the last century. They were so much cheaper to operate and could be interchanged much easier than just having Mega Carriers like we only have now. Having a more mobile force with more Task Forces available to interchange seems like it would be the way to go in today's revolving threats. Asking a dozen-ish carriers to provide security abroad, and for general upkeep, and training is starting to really show it's worse for wear on our Navy.
@DennisTedder-wj5ln
@DennisTedder-wj5ln Ай бұрын
You're an analyst for...whom?
@Forthecasuals
@Forthecasuals Ай бұрын
@@DennisTedder-wj5ln Didn't know you need to be an analyst to see obvious glaring holes in your countries military. Hence, you know, what these two Military professionals are discussing.
@edl653
@edl653 Ай бұрын
One of the issues with the smaller carriers is without catapult and arresting gear, the aircraft on board will have limited range. Additionally the would require the same amount of protect as a "Mega Carrier" in a hot zone, so the Navy would be using the same amount of assets defending a significantly less capable one. - However sail the smaller carrier to less hostile areas is a way to minimize reduce the burden on the larger fleet. LHA 6 and 7 can fill that role if needed.
@pogo1140
@pogo1140 Ай бұрын
Light Carriers don't have catapults. Without those you don't have E-2 radar planes. Each Carrier Air Wing has 4 of them in order to provide 24hr coverage.
@corsair6
@corsair6 Ай бұрын
The problem with the mini-carriers is they're unable to launch a sizable strike package given their inherent space limitations and number of catapults. Remember USS Midway upon her retirement, only had TWO catapults, France's similarly sized but nuclear powered CdG only has two catapults. The magazine and fuel capacity of a mini-carrier, is limited requiring replenishment every 3-4 days. A mini-carrier would be conventionally powered requiring much more internal space devoted to machinery and internal duct-work, further limiting magazine depth and fuel capacity. IN short, the study to produce Ford, found that the mini-carrier has A LOT of limitations, which would require a complete rework to NAVAIR doctrine; 25-30 of these mini-carriers would be needed, in order to duplicate the current number of super carriers along with a comparable increase in auxiliaries.
@PecosChico
@PecosChico Ай бұрын
What use is a military in a country without borders?
@jamesshaw194
@jamesshaw194 Ай бұрын
Have we explored to concept of Blue and Gold crews for our forward deployed systems?
@WardCarroll
@WardCarroll Ай бұрын
Yes, with LCS. Didn’t work.
@Tacticaldave1
@Tacticaldave1 Ай бұрын
Good post Commander! There’s never enough money.
@lawrenceralph7481
@lawrenceralph7481 Ай бұрын
Saw a disturbing (but limited) simulation compaison of a 140 anti-ship missile barrage from flights of Backfires against a single carrier group with full escorts. In the 2000s version the fleet slaughters the decoys, the missiles and the Backfires without a scratch. But in the 2025 version with hypersonic mach 5 + Kinzahlls at 100 mi, over a hundred penetrated the screen. They were just too fast to get 100% intercept even with 300 + sm5 type missiles launched in15-20 seconds. Close in deception and ecm and towed decoy effects were NOT included, but it seems that the saturation is overwhelming. The fleet is decimated. The fleet doctrine probably needs a complete modernization or it may not be able to perform it's mission against massive, well armed modernized land based peer adversaries.
@abefroman4953
@abefroman4953 Ай бұрын
NAVSEA needs to be held accountable for the FFG(x) debacle THEN talk about tossing more money at "Big Navy".
@corsair6
@corsair6 Ай бұрын
More like the LCS & DDG-1000 debacle, which forced the hand to rush-source FFG-62, which will now be THREE YEARS late because the country doesn't have a maritime strategy ergo the rapid shrinking of the shipbuilding industry, hence FFG-62 and its own problems.
@abefroman4953
@abefroman4953 Ай бұрын
@@corsair6 Those people are long retired and working for contractors. FFG(x)/FFG-62 is unfolding before our eyes.
@AlanCoffey
@AlanCoffey Ай бұрын
I agree that a balance must be struck between mission and cost. I strongly suggest we work to adjust the mission. Realistic limitation seem to be lost on our politicians.
@YTRocketMan
@YTRocketMan Ай бұрын
Oh! To have these two guys leading naval operations!
@davidgleinbach7316
@davidgleinbach7316 Ай бұрын
I'M FOCUSED ON THE DOG, SOOOO COMFORTABLE, HE HAS HIS PRIORITIES CORRECT.... WHATS HIS NAME? SHERLOCK? GREAT TRAIN OF THOUGHT. GREAT SHOW. WOULD YOU CONSIDER A VISIT TO THE USS NEW JERSY, AFTER HER CURRENT RE-FITTING IN DRY DOCK. CURRENTLY IN DRY DOCK. IS IT POSSIBLE TO RE CHRISTEN A US NAVY SHIIP? A CONVENTIONAL LITTORAL CLASS OF SILENT STEALTH UNDERWATER BOAT WOULD BE ADVISABLE IF WE LEARNED FROM LAST MEDITERRANEAN SEA GAMES AIR CRAFT CARRIERS ARE VULNERABLE TO THIS TYPE OF SUBMARINE WITH AN ELECTRICAL DRIVE WITH CLASSIFIED "STEAM" ENGINE TO RECHARGE LI=ION BATTERIES?
@benjaminperez7328
@benjaminperez7328 Ай бұрын
Her. Her name is Ingrid.
@johngyllenswan3818
@johngyllenswan3818 Ай бұрын
Love the dog on the couch! Hilarious, living the best life ever!
@DrewNorthup
@DrewNorthup Ай бұрын
Smaller investment often leads to higher TCO. Required underbidding to actually secure contracts always leads to cost overruns-and as underbidding gets more aggressive so do cost overruns, but as an increasing percentage of TCO. Cutting programs (like the F-22) short always increases cost-smaller economies of scale, fewer sales to allies, and longer lifetimes of legacy platforms & equipment. These are universal principles, even outside of the military.
@Syndr1
@Syndr1 Ай бұрын
Hi Ward, is there anyway to fix a problem without throwing money at it?
@ropeburnsrussell
@ropeburnsrussell Ай бұрын
Not any national security problems.
@benjaminperez7328
@benjaminperez7328 Ай бұрын
Rarely.
@psychohist
@psychohist Ай бұрын
Depends on the problem. Shipbuilding requires money.
@heikojakob6491
@heikojakob6491 Ай бұрын
@@psychohist But why does the navy require the building of new LCSes that will directly go to the junk yard?
@sshumkaer
@sshumkaer Ай бұрын
No, putting badges over deep cut doesn't heal the wond. As mentioned in the video you can't decommissioned 29 ship and build less when the stated goal is to increase the size. China building 4 to 6 big ticket ships per year. We can't even build 2 per year big problem
@marioncobaretti2280
@marioncobaretti2280 Ай бұрын
I see your cutie dog on the couch
@babboon5764
@babboon5764 Ай бұрын
Yeah - it looks a really neat dog Is it a Setter or a big Spinnone maybe?
@hillyseattlenarrowstreets6087
@hillyseattlenarrowstreets6087 Ай бұрын
Smart dog, slept thru interview and got up at the end. Wonder if he heard the music due at the end of program.
@tynelson4672
@tynelson4672 Ай бұрын
I don’t know if it would make any sense economically or practically. But I always thought that the A-10 warthog would make a perfect anti-pirate platform. So I’ve always wondered why there’s not a naval version of the A-10. Just thinking out loud.
@markb.1259
@markb.1259 Ай бұрын
ANOTHER... A+++ video!!!
@lupita3689
@lupita3689 Ай бұрын
That’s what happens to any budget when you decide to let inflation run wild and now all your budget goes to paying interests.
@Commissar0617
@Commissar0617 Ай бұрын
inflation was caused because of supply chain issues and shitty right wing fiscal policy.
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