Here's Why The Omega Globemaster Is A Perfect Modern Tribute

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4 жыл бұрын

A Discussion and Review of the Omega Constellation Globemaster. The Original Constellations showed promise and gradually changed over the decades to keep up with the fashion of the times and popular trends. When the Globemaster was released a few years ago, we saw how vintage elements were fused into a timeless design creating a perfect modern tribute.
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@ID-Guy 4 жыл бұрын

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@tomthompson7400 4 жыл бұрын

very sleek , but very Rolex , that may be the down side , just looks like you wanted a DJ and couldnt afford one.

@kadenmekhi4737 2 жыл бұрын

instablaster

@zazamchedlishvili1626 3 жыл бұрын

Had to choose between Globemaster and Datejust. My mind was telling Datejust, and my heart was clearly with Omega. I choose Globemaster two-tone and never regretted. I smile every time I put it on my wrist. Absurdly accurate, aside from being aesthetically so pleasing. Tool watch, dress watch, family heirloom all in one piece.

@anthonystevens8683 3 жыл бұрын

I was just browsing Omega watches last Winter, lots of Speedmasters, Seamasters etc but one Omega model stood out above the rest to me. An elegant watch that could be worn for any occasion from a wedding to a football match or even when hiking. That watch was the Globmaster with the pie pan dial in blue (it looks more like a teal colour in real life) on the very dark blue leather band. It's not an in your face "look at me I'm expensive" design but just oozes elegance That watch was my first Omega purchase and should I fall on hard times it will be the last watch of value that I'd sell. It is a watch that from a distance looks just like a tool watch that can tell the time but the wearer knows what it is and that's what counts.

@johntoomasian8279 3 жыл бұрын

I first saw a Globemaster in Lugano, Switzerland. I never thought, based on that first look, I would ever own one. As time went on, I never could dismiss it. After doing more research, I was able to purchase a blue one a couple of years later. I adore this timepiece and realize how significant and timeless it will be . I wear it almost everyday. I really appreciate the review.

@Mint-cb2vc 4 жыл бұрын

Cross shopped this with Rolex Datejust and Grand Seiko. Had no warm feelings towards Datejust, yeah it's a Rolex, looks nice and keeps it's value but Omega on my wrist kept me happy.

@VmanStudioz 4 жыл бұрын

Strong contender for an ONLY watch! Truly versatile and beautiful, dressing up and dressing down. This watch can run with any company in high horology that will get a head nod without breaking the bank. Nice review....

@res00xua 4 жыл бұрын

I love my blue Globemaster and it gets the most wrist time of all of my watches.

@ID-Guy 4 жыл бұрын

Seriously underrated and here's hoping they'll stay that way ;) Keep enjoying your piece in good health Stephen and thank you for the comment!

@mohitmehrotra3026 3 жыл бұрын

Bought my Globemaster in 2019, and have admired it every single day since then

@548vikings 4 жыл бұрын

I like this channel. Some episodes go on for hours and I put it on the tv rite before bed. I wake up and the channel is still cycling thru your videos. Your voice is easy to listen to.

@JohnSmith-qx8ll 3 жыл бұрын

The Globemaster is way classier than the Datejust. More mature, understated, elegant, unique and durable with the Tungsten bezel.

@jameshoward9700 4 жыл бұрын

Great discussion of the oft-overlooked beauty. Such an elegant face - perfect script and subtle batons. Blue face shaded to perfect. Tungsten bezel is amazing. One of Omegas best looking watches on bracelet or strap, hands down better looking than a Datejust. But... it wears big (as does the Aqua Terra, but there is a smaller one of those). Launched in 2015 no one thought watches would be getting smaller, but they will and are, leaving these big formal/dress watches looking dated. 2mm smaller would be perfection.

@samuelhopely4853 4 жыл бұрын

The perfect occasion for the Globemaster is what makes it so desirable to me: Business class on a British Airways 747 at midnight, floating 30,000 feet above the Atlantic below with the warm glow of interstitial reading lights softening the wall before you. Haven't yet found another watch that captures this so perfectly for me.

@stuartclubb4302 4 жыл бұрын

You almost made flying sound attractive again.

@jumboJetPilot 4 жыл бұрын

Well said! I fly 747’s.

@jumboJetPilot 3 жыл бұрын

Coming Soon Very cool! My aunt worked for Boeing for 40 years.

@alfaazpanjshir7345 2 жыл бұрын

took a screenshot of this 👆 comment

@csabah.6251 4 жыл бұрын

I think one the best but yet underappreciated model in the current catalog

@JohnBuckmaster-sw3wm 4 жыл бұрын

As my watch tastes have changed over the years the constellation has moved from an afterthought to front and center. It’s become a must-have that I’ve saved for many months to acquire… Thanks for the informative video as well as entertaining me while I am sheltered in place!

@ID-Guy 4 жыл бұрын

It's funny how we go (or grow) through our phases. I see something very unique in the Globemaster. Of course it's not for everyone, but hell, it manages to ride of line of being exciting and restrained extremely well. And thank you for the comment John!

@jamessymington2466 4 жыл бұрын

I used to be all chronographs and dive watches 20+ years ago but now the Globemasters do it for me and the Sea Dwellers and Explorer IIs have gone.

@Sammeeee 4 жыл бұрын

I have a 1957 gold Constellation Pie Pan, love it. Might buy the Globemaster some day

@ID-Guy 4 жыл бұрын

I'm blown away by the all gold Connie's of the 50's... Seeing them on mesh bracelets with gold dials... just gorgeous. Thank you for the comment, brother!

@OmegaFanMan 4 жыл бұрын

Trinity 57 Seamaster and then a Globemaster review - You have a very good eye and I always gain an increased appreciation for my collection from your considered and balanced reviews - thanks

@cedarcanoe 4 жыл бұрын

I really can imagine owning one as an everyday piece. Great content mr. iDGuy!

@midas1929 4 жыл бұрын

Truly enjoyed this great video about the Globemaster, which is often underrated and neglected by other reviewers.

@DavidDatura 4 жыл бұрын

Great video! The Globemaster with the pie-pan dial design and tungsten coined bezel/steel case is my favorite contemporary Omega.

@absmalhotra 4 жыл бұрын

I have been following your channel since a couple of weeks now and your videos really resonate with me. I have no formal training in design, but I initially got into watches just for the design. I started with my first luxury watch as the Seamaster Professional 300 (the 1957 Seamster 300 came in a close second). I have my eyes set on the Junghans Max Bill and Seiko SARX033 for my next couple of purchases. Or maybe even a Hamilton Khaki Field Auto. I came across some vintage Constellations while browsing online a week or so ago and that got me lusting for the Globemaster (white dial annual calendar version). Long story short - your videos so often make me feel like you put my thoughts into words and that we might have pretty much the same taste in watches!

@blueshirtbuddah1665 4 жыл бұрын

Another fantastic video IDGuy, thank you so much. The blue dial Globemaster is one of my favorite Omega releases from the last several years. It can be both a sports and a dress watch. As you stated, it completes quite well against the Datejust for a terrific all around everyday watch. Thanks again for the great video.

@ID-Guy 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks a million, Blueshirt! I feel the same about this piece (next to the 57 reissues of course) ;) Hopefully they'll remain underrated for a while. Oh! And I'd love to see this piece released in Titanium one day!

@Thomas_Burnett 4 жыл бұрын

A great release from Omega over recent years, the Globemaster is not only a great looking but, with its movement, also functioning watch. It can be dressed up or casually worn and looks great on a bracelet but, really comes into its own on a leather strap. The choice of dial colours are very legible and the blue dial is such a smart looking watch. The date at 6 o’clock is well positioned and even though it shares a fluted bezel with the Datejust, the lack of a Cyclops lens looks so much more appealing aesthetically. A really good looking watch from Omega I feel but, commercially popular? Only time will tell. Yet another great video from you my friend. I hope that you’re enjoying your new Omega too! ✊

@ID-Guy 4 жыл бұрын

Hopefully it'll stay under the radar for a while. I must say these Co-Axials really aren't marketing hype... with the META's certification they are formidable. Thank you as always for the comment, brother! I hope to see you on Saturday (some unreal pieces arrived in my mailbox this week) And I hope you're taking care of yourself!

@Ossory88 4 жыл бұрын

Oh ,look! Its Thomas Burnett!

@TruckeeDoggo 4 жыл бұрын

A really nice design and a tastefully brushed case and bracelet. The lack of high polish finishing makes this watch classy and understated.

@berylphilip2171 3 жыл бұрын

My Constallation will celebrate it's 50th birthday next year!

@williamfavara7565 4 жыл бұрын

Fantastic video on one of the most underrated watches available today.

@ericjackson6501 4 жыл бұрын

The Globemaster is one of my favorite watch. The Blue dail one is my Grail at the moment. Great video. Hope you are enjoying the Seamaster 300, another great watch!

@vitorpanca4832 4 жыл бұрын

The blue dial looks gorgeous.

@ID-Guy 4 жыл бұрын

I'm very interested by the white dial variant. But then, after seeing the gorgeous 50's pieces... I'm very torn haha! Thank you for the comment Eric! The SM300 never gets boring ;)

@kirkl3106 3 жыл бұрын

Great Video. Looking back in future years this will be a piece more wish they’d taken note of being Omegas first Master Chronometer with all its origin cues...timeless as you say..

@jamessymington2466 4 жыл бұрын

Well done - great video. I have both the blue and opaline versions and they are wonderful. The blue has charms that are immediately obvious - particularly in good light - but the silvery opaline dial is quietly and subtly stunning.

@dgarrido3381 4 жыл бұрын

Globemaster is a superb watch! The blue version is just sick ! Love it and I own it.

@TheCronan 3 жыл бұрын

Great! Love it! Now make it 36mm....

@temujen 4 жыл бұрын

Love the larger than normal seconds hand, something really bold yet elegant about the size and shape.

@ID-Guy 4 жыл бұрын

Nicely said. They also have a vintage callback to them (almost like Speedy MK2 Seconds hands from back in the day) Ah, it's an interesting watch and thank you for the comment, Temujen!

@jackflowers9144 4 жыл бұрын

we learn a lot from Omega new models, thank you !

@shaverray4462 4 жыл бұрын

Great video, really coherent analysis of the Globemaster’s appeal. I’ve got both a ‘66 pie pan and a ‘69 C-Case Connie in my collection and have been considering adding the Globemaster as a contemporary element of what would make a nice trilogy. This vid has spurred me to stop procrastinating and actually make the purchase. Thanks for the quality content.

@tippykaffu4047 4 жыл бұрын

The Globemaster is what I would have bought when I am going to buy my first Omega.

@ID-Guy 4 жыл бұрын

I'm really considering a white dial for my old man in a few years. Thank you for the comment, brother!

@tippykaffu4047 4 жыл бұрын

@@ID-Guy Btw, whats your next video?

@vdan2879 11 ай бұрын

For every minute you were talking, I was furiously looking at this on Chrono. Haha

@SHONUFF772 4 жыл бұрын

ID guy is the man.... much love from NYC!

@alfaazpanjshir7345 2 жыл бұрын

This voice.!!* subscribed instantly. It gives seriousness that compliments the relevant serious watches.

@joelmoore3804 3 жыл бұрын

This is a beautiful watch. I'm new to watch collecting, but this is a grail watch to me. I'm saving now, and hopefully in a couple years I'll be able to purchase it. It sucks sometimes to be responsible.

@eus9 7 ай бұрын

Did you ever get it?

@joelmoore3804 7 ай бұрын

Hahaha, nope I got sidetracked with other watches. It's still on my list though, so maybe one day.

@watchinout1897 3 жыл бұрын

Outstanding review!! 👏

@antoinemozart243 3 жыл бұрын

All constellations during yyears are absolutely stunning !

@MusicCityMafia Жыл бұрын

An awesome video. Thanks for putting this together.

@s3077769 4 жыл бұрын

I'm very impressed by the globemaster, especially the annual calendar, that moves it into next level mechanics

@atoast9768 4 жыл бұрын

I don't know why I can't get excited about this watch, since on paper it's exactly what I want. Maybe it's the overbearing bezel or the proportions not being quite right, who knows. I adore the new steel Tresor though so I'm saving for that instead :) I wonder if we'll get a redesign in the near-future, given the GM allegedly was a flop sales-wise

@Hard_7_Iron Жыл бұрын

Love the Globemaster…❤ One day, maybe I’ll have one. 😊

@watchnerds 4 жыл бұрын

Glad that I had both c shape and pie pan at the same time

@feedthefatrabbit1073 3 жыл бұрын

My favorite Omega stylistically.

@geojoshi7448 4 жыл бұрын

I love watches and love the stories behind but I’m yet to find one watch that strongly resonates with me.

@craig2100 4 жыл бұрын

Beautiful watch, and a great movement

@ID-Guy 4 жыл бұрын

The movement, oh the movement. These Co-Axials are the business... Someone just needs to wear one to know that it's not just marketing. 1 and a 1/2 months into wearing my SM300 daily and it's currently sitting at +2. Unreal. Thanks for the comment Craig!

@bluecataldar5068 4 жыл бұрын

Love globemaster ... hopefully it can get bigger market and recognition . Should omega come out with smaller case size , for the female buyer and smaller wrist market ?

@mountainpeakcloud8442 3 жыл бұрын

Great video. I love my white dial Globemaster so much that it’s been on my wrist since the day I got it back in 2018. I have both the bracelet and dark charcoal leather strap and love them both. The strap is so comfortable and really brings out the blackened hands, contrasting beautifully with the dial, where as the bracelet blends so well with the case. I don’t feel like I need another watch after this.

@jiebenz9548 4 жыл бұрын

Globemaster silvery-white dial, tungsten fluted bezel and SS bracelet.. will be a future collectible... 🕺🎉👍

@MrEnterainment 4 жыл бұрын

Very good video!

@mrandmrswheels1142 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent video cheers

@thewristwatchexperience8153 4 жыл бұрын

Great video. Interesting that you mention the polerouteresque cross hairs on the Constellation as the original Polerouter was a Genta design and it was Genta that Omega turned to - to redesign the Constellation.

@Ben-yw8be 2 жыл бұрын

HIGHLY UNDERRATED. Fantastic price for what you get too.

@Spook291 4 жыл бұрын

What would really be interesting is a comparison between the 2012 Prototype Rolex Deepsea Challenge watch that James Cameron had attached to his sub that broke the record. And the recent Omega Planet Ocean Ultra Deep Prototype that recently broke the record from Rolex. Lots of views there

@ericb8888 4 жыл бұрын

N D and depth discrepancies;)

@ID-Guy 4 жыл бұрын

I'm going to get onto this immediately and thank you for the suggestion, brother! I saw a headline about the POUD (but never investigated it)

@ericb8888 4 жыл бұрын

IDGuy The depth measurements are all , at best , variable . Challenger Deep has three basins ( Just South of Guam ) , West , Central and East all of which have slightly varying depths . Multi beam sonar will give different readings to an ROV ie plus or minus 20m . Recorded depths vary between 10928 to 11034 so who knows which one actually went deeper . I'd warrant the Omega has the edge and I'd definitely wear it ... slips under the cuff nicely ;)

@tippykaffu4047 4 жыл бұрын

@@ID-Guy They lost the Omega in the sea for some time and the watch kept an accurate timing.

@Ossory88 4 жыл бұрын

Great video!!!

@ID-Guy 4 жыл бұрын

Much love, Tau! Thank you!

@akcoop Жыл бұрын

Well done sir

@markymark3572 3 жыл бұрын

Loving the look of the new 2020 models😎

@gcsd6158 3 жыл бұрын

😇😇😇😇😇😇😇🇮🇶

@maninahat1417 3 жыл бұрын

so classy..

@davidb5720 4 жыл бұрын

Loving the Omega content! Great vid in a classy under appreciated watch. It maybe one for the enthusiast but that makes it more appealing and it’s a better watch overall than others in that price bracket. I thought the 8 stars signified the various wins Omega took in observatory timing competitions?

@ID-Guy 4 жыл бұрын

It's clearly Omega Week hahaha! (unplanned) - Omega seems to always offer that extra 20% in it's price range (maybe that's another reason why the brand is loved by so many?) AND regarding the stars... I might've botched that one... One article seemed adamant about it's chronometer testing (linked to METAs), but then the vintage constellations also had them... Goes to show how bad broken telephone can get

@davidb5720 4 жыл бұрын

IDGuy I’m an Omega fanboy anyway with 2 in the collection so loving it and think you’ve also bought the perfect watch (jealous! 😉) look forward to more great content! 👍👍

@crappyluxurypdx 4 жыл бұрын

Blows away the hackneyed Datejust.

@Ossory88 4 жыл бұрын

You think? I think the datejust is rightfully a revered watch. But what Omega with the Globemaster did was creating something completely new yet taking elements from the past to fuse all lose ends together. It's more of an accomplishment because the task was much more difficult for omega than it is for Rolex to make yet another datejust. Though being this consistent with the watch models like Rolex is a virtue all on its own.

@kencur9690 3 жыл бұрын

Great example of silly comments which show only bias and complete ignorance (the OP’s) and balanced, thoughtful replies which actually approach a subject intelligently and objectively.

@peterste8652 4 жыл бұрын

Did you say in the video--the 50s bumper is made of beryllium copper? Makes sense. Mine is 70 years old and insides are still bright.

@jaysikes4256 4 жыл бұрын

Beautiful dodecagon dial, in particular with the blue colour.

@ID-Guy 4 жыл бұрын

I find the subtlety of the pie pan even more exciting. Seriously interesting piece from the family (and I'm sure it's going to remain underrated) Thanks for the comment, brother!

@dimitriostsiganis 3 жыл бұрын

A Globemaster with salmon dial would be a killer watch!!!

@manuel_winde 4 жыл бұрын

The gap between the bracelet and lugs is probably very slight but at that level could annoy me. The strap in general I think is the let down but it’s a great watch, I came close to purchasing it but all in all I always think Omega continually falls short. Other than the speedy pro I always feel disappointed with omegas offerings. (I own a speedmaster Mitsukoshi dial and a vintage seamaster deville so am not an “omega hater”). This globemaster on leather is an awesome watch though but I think I will go for an Explorer over this. Great video and some excellent footage

@G120gameguide 4 жыл бұрын

Fat-Sam FatSamEIE I wouldn’t say omega always falls short, but I think where they’re letting themselves down lately is as you said with the bracelet on this model. Seems a complete afterthought and secondly, the thickness. I appreciate a really tough antimagnetic shock resistant movement in a diver but I’d rather something a little less robust but much thinner in a watch like this

@closer71 2 жыл бұрын

I desperately want one of these with the navy leather strap but it has to be platinum. I’ll settle for rose gold but I absolutely want the Platinum. Finding one is another story…

@AK-jl5xt 4 жыл бұрын

Classy.

@ID-Guy 4 жыл бұрын

Sophisticated ;) Thanks for the comment Andy!

@trevbarlow9719 3 жыл бұрын

I'd prefer this over any current DJ.

@waterfordrs22 Жыл бұрын

I read somewhere the Globemaster was used in the United States until the mid ‘50s. There was a trademark dispute of some kind. Lockheed Martin was producing a passenger plane by the name Constellation through the mid to late ‘50s, no idea if that was the source of the conflict, but it’s a possibility

@abishev 3 жыл бұрын

4:50 - Do you still plan on making that video?

@jumboJetPilot 4 жыл бұрын

I’d like to see Omega switch back to dauphine hands on this model just to harken back to its heritage. Maybe a light blue dial with blued steel hands and indices. How about a salmon dial with blued steel hands and indices? Deep forest green dial and strap would be cool too. As would burgundy red.

@dnlmoretti 2 жыл бұрын

I was blown away when I saw these in the metal - pictures (and even videos more often than not) don’t do these pieces justice imo. I find them to be far more beautiful then their Rolex counterparts.

@the3cl3ctic 4 жыл бұрын

If only you could get a version with the cognac leather strap that comes with the Globemaster AC :/

@SuperMAYUSAMA Жыл бұрын

I wonder where the name glovemaster comes from. is it a sub category of constellation?like aqua terra within seamaster?

@mountainhobo 3 жыл бұрын

The original pie pan Constellations had elegance and finesse that none of the later releases could match. That modern cushion case is not dressy enough. To me the modern watch is better that the interim pointless, flat, lost-in-the-crowd versions, but even this latest one is still not sure what it wants to be.

@jim2950 4 жыл бұрын

I am wearing a 1944 18k. Omega bumper. It is in beautiful bumper watch. It is very accurate. If you looked at, you could not date it. It is 76 years old.

@khphou 3 жыл бұрын

I wish there was not 'date' on the dial of this new Globemaster.

@Frytsz Жыл бұрын

can you do a video on Junghan max bill?

@runrin_ 4 жыл бұрын

i really like this watch, but its about 3-4mm too large for me. design nitpicks: i wish omega would move the lugs inward to be more like the early models. i feel like nearly all of omega's watches have overpowering lugs. they try so hard to blend them into the watch head that it almost looks like a stretched cushion case. i also really dislike the typography on the annual calendar version of this watch.

@ID-Guy 4 жыл бұрын

Most brands are really trying their best to make their pieces have the most "presence" as possible... it definitely irks me too. And well said about the typography! I find the script quite fitting for it's vintage-esque styling, but the hand for the month... that really looks like it comes out of the 30's or 40's haha! Great how our tastes are so different and thank you for the comment, runrin!

@lamadoo 3 жыл бұрын

If only it was thinner.

@nudgedoink55 3 жыл бұрын

the lack of half links or microadjusts is a deal breaker for me. Which is so unfortunate.

@gcsd6158 3 жыл бұрын

Omega 🇨🇭🌍🇮🇶💪🙂👍روووووووووووعة

@spidadoc 4 жыл бұрын

Great watch. However, I don't think it will knock the Skyfall Aqua Terra off my wrist.

@JayB-lz6yd 4 жыл бұрын

coin edge throw me off this watch.

@Sandouras Жыл бұрын

This is supposed to up against the Datejust and yet it is brushed. The Aqua Terra which is supposed to go against the OP and maybe DJ is polished to all hell. This is a great watch but needs more bling and a better bracelet (as does every omega).

@Gnaixwh 3 жыл бұрын

just slightly too big for watches of this design. It would be perfect with 37-39 dial size.

@krugmeup2162 3 жыл бұрын

Measure it

@Spike123.98 2 жыл бұрын

Oh Mee Ga 😂

@stevefox8605 4 жыл бұрын

Should have given it lyre lugs & got rid of the hideous fluted bezel (which ruins the watch IMHO) I like the pie pan dial, & put it leagues ahead of the fugly date just. Good vid, Cheers. Stay healthy everyone 👍🏻👍🏻

@andycorso8498 4 жыл бұрын

I love mine......even more after I actually got it. It’s appeal cannot be appreciated from pictures......

@ID-Guy 4 жыл бұрын

I know the feeling, man. And let's not forget about the accuracy... Their co-axials are damn brilliant. Thanks for the comment Andy!

@andycorso8498 4 жыл бұрын

IDGuy omega are underrated both technically and from an aesthetic point of view imho

@DGoetz26 4 жыл бұрын

Would love to hear what makes you love it more. Bc I think it’s great but can’t tell if I’d like it less or more once buying. What is your insight? Thanks.

@MiloPragerSE 9 күн бұрын

I own Rolex and Omega. I really can’t feel that Omega lines up with Rolex in any means or vice versa. The models of both brand are simply different concepts. And IF someone consider to buy a Constellation for saving money on a Datejust but falls more for the Datejust. Please, do not go for the Constellation. Go for the watch you love more.

@rsr789 3 жыл бұрын

I really wish it didn't have a date window.

@gioraus Жыл бұрын

Omega should start making their watch thinner, it's so bulky it looses the fineness of what constellation series were meant to be.

@ili4707 4 жыл бұрын

Dunno, I just don't like the watch. I think it is because of those curved? lugs. I like the lugs on the Nomos Tagente and hate the Orion. I can't explain it.

@ID-Guy 4 жыл бұрын

It does borrow quite heavily from vintage influences and the case I'm sure would divide opinion. It looks very sixties/seventies in the way they curve around the dial. And talking about the Orion and Tangente, I feel the exact opposite to you, so it shows that our tastes are always subjective ;)

@ili4707 4 жыл бұрын

@@ID-Guy Thanks for the nice answer!