Watchfinder, the type of guy to make Doug references unintentionally.

Doug's the type of guy to wear a timex in his Ferrari

I understood that reference!

*QUIRKS INTENSIFIES*

And he didn't mention his column on autotrader/oversteer

Bang on the money Dan - it’s the art and the appreciation for the time and effort gone into producing it.

lol

I much prefer the newer version 5231J

My thoughts exactly. In general, PP seems to not pay any attention to typefaces, using very generic ones, which is a huge mistake IMO. Being conservative is one thing, but using Arial on a timepiece worth thousands, is a completely different story.

As a type designer and graphic designer, I second that. It's a crime against humanity using the default all caps for a script typeface, and the letter spacing is awful, everything is butted up against each other, it's as though the designer just picked the free font from the list without even choosing ligatures or swashes.

Tommi Selander defo

😂

They're so out of touch in the mountains of neutral switzterladnzx, they probably think they nailed it.

Tommi Selander Its not supposed to look modern.. I have nothing against it, wouldn't like it on a omega for example

Yeah, sadly comic sans was made too late :(

Yes and the logo on the bezel is so tacky 🤮

Theo, u must be one of those people who thinks just because it's super expensive that it's infallible

Yep

the hole mapa-mundi is the size of a fingernail, you only notice the fails at the wire ends bc its magnified, and the only way to get rid of them would be to melt them together.

@@iutlu No. The highly paid Swiss artisan, of this super expensive watch, who works under a microscope, with expensive Swiss tweezers, can close those up and form them better. There are better examples of cloissoné on far less expensive pieces. Just not necessarily on watches.

ok i stand corrected sir. nevertheless its kind of a nitpick since you wont really be able to see at naked eye. Its not like the guy buying the watch will go - oh i just realized this microscopic imperfection on my 100 000£ watch, my day is ruined, guess i'm getting on my bugatti and just go back to my castle!

@@iutlu The gaps in the wire are visible to the naked eye. That's a lot of money for sloppy cloissoné.

Well Patek didnt think so either considering the original price point of 45,000, but the market has said otherwise lolol. Also, the price is not just for the Cloisonne, but for the movement, finishing of the movement, brand name, etc, etc im sure ;)

Pretty sure no one gives a fuck about your vases...

@@yungnietzsche2302 no one gives a fuck about this garbage overpriced watch. Intricate work or not, all high end luxury watches are made with precision and expertise. Watchmaking isnt a formulae where all inputs equal an exact output ( price). The cost of the materials isnt worth over a grand. so is the workmanship worth 100 000? are the watchmaker getting paid that money? or the stockholders who get all the profits but merely pay the watchmakers a salary? bet they got profit margins of 90%

And that font is atrocious. Like someone given ms power point to an 8 year old.

Original price point or the market price?

I think he means the map... so... 20% of the world is missing.

Even some timezones are missing

thats because Patek knows anything outside Europe is irrelevant

Supply and time.. These watches from patek take anywhere from 4 to 8 years to make.. No joke. Not many watches come out ta market every year.

dear sir, all these watches are made in China for 5$ each... they cost thousands because stupidity must be punished and the mother of idiots is always pregnant

Is 60K total movement/case production per year enough for you?

A fool and his money are soon parted...

No CNC to help on the cloissoné.

95% marketing

You're 100% poor and jealous of others.

nurkijao I have more money than all your ancestors and your future relatives combined multiply by 100... Patek is for the poor people who want to show they have more money than they actually do

Sure you do.

nurkijao want to make a bet?

Id say supply mostly.. Lets not act like all Pateks dont gain value with age.. But i dont get it either because their watches ARE perfect. All of them... Except this world model. : /

It is not about high class vs poor. It is about an appreciation for skill, craftsmanship and rarity. A poor person can appreciate all those things even if they can't own it. I cannot afford a lamborghini miura but I'd stop and talk to a person who does to share in the nostalgia. The same with this watch. I can stop and talk to the owner and discuss the movement in his watch vs my Daytona 4130. We could talk at length about Rolex's marketing vs Patek. I know the owner of this watch would appreciate all those things and I'm sure they would enjoy the conversation as much as I :)

As a watch enthusiast for 50 years, I have a handful of friends who are multi-billionaires. None and I repeat none, would buy this piece. Some would shell out $ 50 K for a Calatrava, VC or Piaget, but this piece is way overpriced.

@@alexp3752 There is no Calatrava that would cost $50,000.00 and yes if you really had friends like that some of them would have a watch like this or even one from the 1950s that would have put them back over a million dollars.

@@joebryant8500 Actually the only thing that justifies the price is that people are willing to pay it and that is what anything is worth, what someone is willing to pay for it.

LiamE69 very good point, well spotted.

as long as you can sell it for more and make a profit while wearing it... I would wear it because of this. Patek has made themselves the next step up from Rolex. Clever marketing but so so watch!

Paul Newman's Rolex Watch was sold for 15 Million Dollars...

Theo My point was I’d rather have the house then a watch

great video tho!

as soon as you drive the car you have lost 25% of its value, PP hold value and appreciate over the long term, i rather have the watch and a driver

yes, worth, if you stupid! Tell me, what is wrong if I(you) buy : frederiqueconstant.com/watch-finder/manufacture/classic-worldtimer-manufacture-fc-718brwm4h4/ ? Nothing! Sometime in the future, if a defect occurs, you will need to pay the entire fortune to be repaired this PP watch.

Even his dial looks better IMHO :)

No. High BUDGET people buy them, with huge disposable incomes.... you can have a ton of money and not be " High Class". Class is about character, not currency. As to its "worth"; things are generally Worth what people will pay... if nobody buys one, the price goes down. COST vs WORTH is very subjective.

@@novica.m This looks nicer. LOL.

footballcoreano Please do not offend me. I am a watch lover, I have 14 pieces of watches, my collection ranges is from $ 500 to $ 6000. The watch which is the most expensive in my collection is JL Reverso Classic Large Small Seconds, I also own Omega, Tudor, Longines, Hamilton, Frederique Constant (clock from the link) Sinn, Seiko, Tissot, etc. All of these watches work almost perfectly and I have not had a malfunction. The point is, the companies that produce these extremely expensive watches know that it's not worth the model for that money, but they also know that there are millions of extremely rich people in this world (who own over $ 100 million) and do not care much if they spend half million dollars on a wristwatch, because it is important for them to be viewed with a brand that is luxurious and very popular, simply they embarrassed to wear Seiko, Hamilton or Sinn ...

Not really. 100k for bits of hard plastic in the interior and doors that sound hollow when you close them. A Porsche Boxster or Cayman on the other hand, and even the Beetle... I mean the 911 is much better for less money.

Well, the market determines the price, so it is indeed worth 100K. Its a physical commodity you can buy and sell. Talking about our own ideas about value is not really of interest, but the reality is that this watch is more likely to retain value in the coming years compared to the BMW M5, so if I had to put my money somewhere I would take the watch any day, dispite the fact that it looks awful...