Thomann's Guitars & Basses We get plenty of Rob. Too much tbh. Can’t get away.

I posted a bit more of a comprehensive comparison here. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hNp6p6-lx7Gad4k.html

I’m a gal from Kalamazoo and I concur!

Yup I say heritage and Collings outclasses Gibson USA without question. I still find many custom shop ES models to be “better” but you’re pretty much there with a heritage without spending 6k+. I will say that Collings is perhaps the closest thing that beats most Gibson custom shop models I’ve played.

He can, and he will lose.

The Les Paul story is a fictional story. The history of the Les Paul Guitar is total Bullshit. I'm tired of hearing the Bullshit. Type in O.W. Appleton, this is the true story of the Les Paul. For those CUNTS at Gibson to go public and say play authentic, is total Bullshit, they them selves are FRAUDS.

Dion J. Pierre . Gibson already started. They will lose,,, again !

I know right? I don't get the thinking behind this video except the fact that one was double the price (and the added opinion of it sounding better).

...And of course they only test what they have in stock.... Pretty dumb really. Compare price point with price point unless there's a really good reason for doing something else.

This review is more about some guys enjoying their own company. A bit useless indeed.

The Heritage still blew it away LOL a standard creamed the CS.. Go Heritage!!!!! Woot Woot

Agreed. I have a "Custom" Heritage and it plays, and sounds, almost exactly like my early 70s Gibson LP Custom. Same neck feel, and I mean almost exactly. WAY closer than any newer Gibson Les Paul. I noticed a difference when Gibson left Michigan. No newer Gibson, other than Custom Shop, feels like an older Gibson. They just don't. I wish they would have compared a standard Gibson LP to the Heritage.

@@ThomasMcDrum being as I’m from Kalamazoo…Bingo!

If you're gonna buy a les paul its gotta be with the right headstock in my opinon, same with SGs.

It looks a bit weird on a les paul, but is the Heritage way to improve tuning stability.

@@felixapps5523 the only I don't like about SG is the body.

DINOSHAURIO :V I only like them in white but i hate how thin the body is doesn’t feel good on the leg after a while

But it is a better design to improve tuning stability

My H170 smokes every other guitar I've ever played. Including Gibsons. Heritage power! 👊

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@Marcellino Sananto for sure.... and once again for dinner....

The peghead is ugly, but it's the one legally defensible part of an instrument, so no copying once the brand leaves town. The original gibson had a lot of professional design time spent on it, and willy nilly changes don't look as good. That's life. My real issue with a heritage vs. a gibson is that you have to change out fizzy duncans if you want the guitar to sound like a gibson. I've owned both. No great fan of either compared to other options available (high end vintage japanese for cheaper if you're on a budget, or collings if you're not - have those, too).

Fundementally it's not the most attractive design but I think when it's bound it's actually pretty nice, if not very distinctive.

I was just about to type the same thing. As far as I am concerned, Heritages' standard line of guitars quality is were Gibson's custom shop begins. Better quality materials and craftsmanship from the Heritage side. That is why Heritage is growing and Gibson's future as it stand right now is very shaky. Gibson didn't move from Kalamazoo Michigan to hillbilly land to build a better guitar, they wanted to build it faster and cheaper while charging the same price and resting on the laurels of the craftsmanship and product produced in Michigan. Which is still the same level of craftsmanship and materials used at Heritage today,"

Heritage is 2500 magically so is the les paul standard sooo make your desicion yourself

@@dtbroad5862 Racist

@@dtbroad5862 Hillbilly land? I have you know that more "hillbillies" place value in hard and hands on work than 95% of city slickers do. You build your own house? Make your own furniture? Plenty of those "hillbillies" even in this day and age STILL regularly do that. Not all but some. However ALL "hillbillies" DO have that mindset drilled into their brain by heritage. They/we like things right and don't want to dick around doing it. You see a hillbilly arguing at work it's because something isn't right and he's trying to make the floor supervisor pull his head out of his ass to see what is wrong and do something about it. If management won't fix shit we are perfectly happy standing there with arms crossed while the factory burns around us. Then we'll stand there in the ashes looking said floor supervisor in the eye saying "I told you this would happen, you damn stupid MFer". We'll do excellent work if excellent work is the focus (no corner cutting). However we absolutely won't pander to or play polite "company politics" with dickheads that don't listen when things start to go wrong. That's the way "hillbillies" are. We carry pride in what we do and don't like jackasses mucking shit up just because they "think" their smarter because they have a slip of paper "saying" they are smart.

Of course he's not going to Dis Gibson LOL #1 They pay a brutal amount of money (Extortion)to carry Gibson, Thats like a baker tell you the competition is better, The test should have been blind no hands on prior to playing, But that being said most who played a Heritage and just love guitar in my experience and not worshipping the name on the guitar have said the Heritage was the real deal. The hardcore Gibby guys usually default to The headstock is ugly on the Heritage LOL ok well the mustache looks dated and btw fix that headstock angle. Ill go with Gibson made in Kalamazoo and the now Heritage. The same guys made the Holy grail Les Pauls that go 200.000 plus so .. saying the Heritage is lacking somehow is saying the Vintage Gibson's are lacking. Nothing has changed that factory except QC, headstock angle and pitch and employee owned now.

You have to play them both and then make a decision.

both guitars were made in the same Factory by the same staff the difference is the name on the headstock and the date it was made. Gibson moved to Tennessee around 1984 and the former employees of Gibson bought the factory a little bit after

@@jefffredenburg7231 Hello Jeff Fredenburg, that's a really interesting point I had not thought of it in those terms, thank u for visiting I appreciate it!

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Mason Hutchinson Great reply and I'll take you at your word. Good to know about the cutoff. I'll remember that. Heritage was founded almost 35 years ago and it's very improbable any of the original people remain. And the good thing about buying Heritage used is that the price is usually very, very attractive, like pre-owned G&L (edited to correct my math).

The new heritage guitars are excellent. In Australia the Heritage H-150 is still much cheaper than a standard les paul and a custom shop les paul is nore than three times the price of the Heritage. It's a no brainer over here.

Good to know. I have an old Heritage, and its really great. Sad that capital always take over....

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Can buy a new Gibson, too.

I have both Heritage and Gibson guitars. They're totally on par with each other. Can't fault either.

Well, I can hear much difference on the cell phone. I'm going to have to find it on the pc and listen on the headphones.

@Soren Richenberg is true

What do u mean half priced? You mean if I buy a used one from a desperate junky?

@@blastofo I bought a 99 black H-157 for $2,000. I have a 89 black custom Lespaul that I paid $4,000 for. They are almost identical except for the headstock shape and horn. Love them both. I'm glad Heritage is finally getting some recognition though.

I thought the heritage sounded better. It would probably sound really similar with the same pickups and wiring. As far as I know all heritage guitars are completely hand made so they are equal to custom shop. Pre 2016 they did everything by hand. Not sure what the new owner did though. He didn't seem like he wanted to change that.

A Heritage Custom Core H-150 would beat it.

This was an infomercial, not a review.

I think Chapman is pretty honest. He could be pushing his own brand. You never see Paul Reed Smith saying how great a Fender or a Gibson is.

Let's be fair - the custom shop for gibson isn't really a custom shop. It's a separate production area, and it's still not as good as the better makers like collings. But collings can't legally put an open book peghead on their guitars, so I guess people will always buy gibsons.

Headstocks are often a division point with guitarists. Certainly is with me, although I wish it weren't.

At least they stay on the guitar

I bet the Heritage will stay in tune better because of the string pull.

@@roscoepcoltrane23 they do stay in tune better with no famous tuning issues with the G string.

@@kikomarty4337 I got rid of 2 custom shop Les Pauls because of that same issue. Both of them had it!! I just ordered a dirty lemon heritage h-150. Hope it compares well to the Gibsons I sold.

I am the same situation now. Comparing Gibson custom shop and heritage special order and I feel heritage might be better. so which part did you customise it?

Oilid I totally get it. It applies to other things too. For example, Rob is far more talented and successful than me but for some reason, people are attracted to me. Funny old world... //Andy

check the Hot Crazy matrix it works for guitars too ie. stock ibanez well call it a 5 will get the job done, but a full hand built custom will be your unicorn ....unless its a dude!

@@ThomannsGuitarsBasses Because size matters! ... Looooool Sorry not sorry. 😁

Oilid never apologise. NEVER! //Andy

@@ThomannsGuitarsBasses 🤣

You're arguing against a subjective observation. Weird.

a buggered set of tuners can be to blame. You could try a new set, or even a locking set. If there is excess play in the string shafts with no strings on it's very suspect. Best of luck. The last gas uh oh result is that maybe the wood is a little weak at the headstock and it's flexing with string tension. you might could try a top wrap on it as well. Often times the old bendy headstock 3-4 minute up down up down tuning to get everything at the same pitch is just a bad guitar trait that can't really be solved though.

Luke Wells ohh yes he did. He’s still asking about it. Haha! It’s a ridiculous instrument for sure. //cheers, Kris

The head stock design is way better than the Gibson, less string drag on the nut stays in tune better.

But they also all want an expensive guitar.

Just buy a made in Japan Tokai

@@lucbos7516 buy a dean ... 😂 Gibson will enjoy being mad because they are no longer about guitar but money only.. Heritage better then Gibson....

But after you play a Gibson it's hard to go back to a Epiphone tho 😂

I kept reading that on hardcore Les Paul forums where they all discuss single cuts, that nowadays Heritage is basically where Gibson was at in the 2010s but minus the resale value.

I worked on a Heritage guitar some years ago. It had been purchased by a very experienced session musician who selected it as the best, from quite a number of guitars that the main importer had at that time. It was a beautiful, well made guitar, that sounded fabulous. BUT the fretwork was appalling. With the strings removed you could see multiple file grooves all across the fret board at every fret where the frets had been 'dressed'.

I think a lot of the employees that left were folks who had been there a very long time. Until then, I had considered buying a Heritage. Now? No thanks.

The gist of it from one of the articles was that the older workers didn't mind some cosmetic variation and the newer management applied a rigid "quality checklist" type policy. They butted heads, and I'd imagine getting rid of the higher cost older employees was something they'd love to have an excuse for anyway. My opinion - when someone buys a brand, they have debt and they love to use the brand value to hold on to customers while cutting costs at the same time. Any well-run ethical business that has steady revenue and high expenses is an easy target for chop shop type management. I get the sense also from the original article (just my opinion like all of this) that the site might have more value than the business (thus the production was moved out of the site). After taking some criticism about the changes, it appears that the heritage youtube channel has chosen to just get rid of the videos and show production in the old factory. No surprise - not particularly honest in my book, but no surprise.

Mister Tee your right they sold it.

Mister Tee I'd agree, because apart from what otheres have said about Heritage being sold, the company has been around for almost 45 years. Even a kid who started there at age 20 would be Social Security age by now. Not likely!

It is, no issues with the G

There's a pretty big difference between different densities of mahogany. It's not magic, it's just the result (mostly sustain difference) of different samples of wood. Gibson is using heavy mahogany in a lot of guitars, but saving the lighter for their overpriced "custom production" guitars. The solid 8 1/2 pound les paul is in style now, and the 10 1/2 pound les paul isn't. Different pickups between the two, also. Duncan can copy gibson's pickups, I'm sure, but their production models don't really do it. Other than that, not much difference, but those two things make quite a big difference if you''re comparing les pauls. Not so much if you're comparing les pauls to strats.

@@daw162 the Duncan 59s in the Heritage H-150 guitars sound great. I would expect a more expensive guitar to sound better, considering the Gibson is three times the price. Comparisons should have been made with standard models. Rob is just a tool and his comments and playing are poor. I have a les paul standard and a H-150 and the H-150 is the nicer sounding guitar through my setup.

Change the pickups in the heritage and they sound the same, as does any decent gibson. They're just average or lower wind pickups with no potting. If you wax pot a higher output pickup, or even one of the same output, it's always going to lose some sizzle in favor of it being quieter live.

Rob should never have picked up that Gibson. Troublemaker! //Andy

Justin Garcia I'm not surprised at the possible changes within the company. Heritage was founded almost 45 years ago. What has become of its original leadership---or even some of the early employees---in all these years later? There's probably very few, if any left.

Who am I???? //Andy

The strongest man in the world right??

Was thinking the same thing. :D

hahaha x3

sg old man I would watch that movie. //Andy

Fender forever …

The Gospel of Mark on the way, mate! //Andy

there are still many original staff members working at Heritage, namely, Rendall Wall, who is a good friend of mine

I have a 1988 H-535 that I'm very happy with. I did buy it s/hand rather cheaply after it had been sat in its case under someone's bed for the best part of two decades and it did need some work as the electronics were f***ed! It's the only guitar of its type that I've played that didn't have serious feedback issues and with the new pickups (BKP 'Mules') has a tone like warm chocolate. I've had two H-140s as well but sold them because I had to not because I wanted to. My only beef with Heritage guitars is that they don't hold their value the way Gibsons do although given that all of mine were acquired s/hand that worked in my favour.

I still have my '89 H535ASB. There's absolutely nothing wrong with it after 31 years. Maybe you bought a dud....

they ship with it in the case.