Hermann Prime Test Results [loses duels; wins KvK] Rise of Kingdoms
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Күн бұрынIn this video sponsored by the makers of Rise of Kingdoms, we'll review why I'm hyped for Hermann Prime by showcasing 1v1 and 5v5 test results.
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0:00 Introduction
1:28 Skills Review
6:44 Best Talents
8:03 Should Hermann be primary?
9:15 Duel Test Results
17:28 5v5 Test Results
23:33 Summary
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@Chisgule 5 ай бұрын
WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THESE TEST RESULTS? WILL YOU BE MAXING HERMANN? subscribe with notifications on so you don't miss a video! discord.gg/chisgule
@RizaGames-et4gd 5 ай бұрын
imagine 10 players had expert herman ...its going insane at field
@ultrafiregaming8066 5 ай бұрын
actually, im broke. so nah
@winstonwolf6791 5 ай бұрын
Interesting results. I would need to see testing where archers are hit first, not last. That is more realistic and if the Herman side was still winning, would be impressive and more definitive.
@AbkiRashi 5 ай бұрын
Stupids, test un kvk map o Home kingdom map
@waltercariani4.20 5 ай бұрын
Please, do a 3v3 or 5v5 against Ashu/Hermman, and swarm Ashu eailer to see if he is relevant tank. If both get swarmed: more stats and more poison(gain more rage).
@kimkong4163 5 ай бұрын
WE really need an Archer Special next nonth,for all those lost Souls WHO still have that100%Archer focus❤
@ngocquoc2828 5 ай бұрын
everyone keep saying this commander that commander will get focus but in real fight they play with dot mode 😂
@Chisgule 5 ай бұрын
This is the real truth.
@IVANKEMP 5 ай бұрын
Great testing, love to see tommy test in 5vs5 too!!
@mkdsb123 5 ай бұрын
waiting for that
@grit117 5 ай бұрын
If you didn’t target archers first before, you will now 😝
@winstonwolf6791 5 ай бұрын
Will know more after kill event but initial kingdom tests show that when Herman is targeted makes all the difference. If he is hit first that player gets destroyed. The longer he is able to not be targeted the better you do. Going to make it tough for archers as a whole, as they will be targeted even more than they already were.
@acrracing2494 5 ай бұрын
Dot mode
@milad3675 5 ай бұрын
Great video, at how many skills he is better than boudica?
@GrowmietheGreen 5 ай бұрын
In the 5v5 scenario, did you by any chance try ysg with zhuge in the mb opposing the zl herman? Assuming since the march was missing an entire aoe commander, that could be the make or break right there. Hermans aoe is a big deal alone, let alone the poison stacks. Edit: asked too soon😂😂😂
@Caradune22 5 ай бұрын
Waiting on Tomy's report. Ty!
@ghostshrimp7847 5 ай бұрын
Could you do testing with equipment? Since cavalry has mostly health buffs I think it would do a lot better and Im curious if it would win.
@prettyeyesclef5018 5 ай бұрын
Wow who would’ve thought
@omega7824 5 ай бұрын
can you test his expertise? is it possible to apply it?? or should we go 5551 ???
@ariane8559 5 ай бұрын
Does the poison stacks from tomarys stack with or separetely with hermans?
@sukeforth7043 5 ай бұрын
William is going to be insane this meta. Since cavs counter archers but also he negates all the bonus skill damage. It'll be interesting to see how the fights happen when both are on the field, in the same fight.
@alexread4904 5 ай бұрын
William won't do anything about poison, it's skill damage taken not skill damage dealt
@waltercariani4.20 5 ай бұрын
Ashu with him will be sooo intersting mainly if ashu get swarmed. I would love to see. Please test in the future
@ostreych3403 5 ай бұрын
Yeah if Ashu gets swarmed paired with Hermann, he dies very quick that’s the reason you have to pair him with Henry lol
@Samurai_000_ 5 ай бұрын
So how does that exp. skill work?
@Himdell17 5 ай бұрын
OK 😂the best part of this video no probably caught chisgule voice ( they got mad when this happen when I bump commanders down but here here we are consider subscribing lmaoo the most funniest moment
@realjohnlove 2 ай бұрын
How does Hermann Prime’s expertise work? If the first skill resets at 15 stacks of poison, do the next 10 stacks not count towards the 25 activation? Or does there need to be multiple Hermann Prime’s on the field in order for his expertise to activate?
@user-zt7ez6zj7n 5 ай бұрын
When can we see a take on Herman tomy? It will not be great in duels but trigger Herman’s aoe poison plague much much faster in a bit brawl that should have way more effect than Tommy removing stacks from one target which would be mostly dead at that point anyways
@cyberlord645 5 ай бұрын
Chisgule its like your last guide came from someone with 5 years experience when you bumped up herman and down boudica
@Sowletah 5 ай бұрын
Did you try him as secondary to Hera?
@anlintang 5 ай бұрын
what if next leadership open field commander has the ability to clear debuff in active skill, will Herman still worthy
@carpeng4129 3 ай бұрын
Is it best to max skill herman? Or stick to 5551?
@wc4gaming91 5 ай бұрын
can you make a video about kingdoms for new player
@Marqweez 5 ай бұрын
I think Hermann prime is a must have for B+ seed kds, but you won’t really need em in a lower seed kds
@mohammedzee2416 5 ай бұрын
How about 2 archers. Boudica/Liang and Nebu/Herm ?
@iamSUKR 5 ай бұрын
Chis help all players , Only 1 archer march already have max boudica zgl Is zgl herman p 5551 better than boudica zgl ?
@user-yn1lp6wt2z 5 ай бұрын
The difference between HumbleFarmer and Mori's Boudica/ Zhuge Liang march was also the civilisation. Mori was ottoman, whereas HumbleFarmer was not, which heavily influenced the strength of the march. Hope that helps.
@MervinLee-mp7li 5 ай бұрын
how about agaisnt Gorgo LC in field ?
@maranat045 5 ай бұрын
Could Hermann make a difference in a 5v5 as a primary due to its suppor tree? He might be even useful in 5v5s with as primary
@tahahasan236 5 ай бұрын
He would likely be the first one out of 5 to be removed from the field first hand
@nirmitdwa7108 5 ай бұрын
In that case, though epic, Kusunoki's first skill could be possibly used to counter Hermann prime. Is there any legendaries that that does similar Dispel effect?
@nirmitdwa7108 5 ай бұрын
Great test by the way. Thanks
@samtasticninja3409 5 ай бұрын
Yes boudica prime..
@DDKKAY 5 ай бұрын
Pakal, dispels Poisons in third skill but with 20% possibility .
@larsschafer2948 5 ай бұрын
Gj !
@gaara6189 5 ай бұрын
17:11 Wrong. Humble farmer didn't have Ottoman civ and Mori had Ottoman with archer special unit.
@lampzwyd9585 5 ай бұрын
I have a question chisgule , whats your opinion on tomyris with herman ?
@MrManguns 5 ай бұрын
f2p already have boudica&YSG. Who he must choose: zhuge liang or Herman P ?
@john2g1 5 ай бұрын
I think you need to ask yourself two questions: 1. Is Boudica/YSG your primary fighting march/alter march? 2. Do you get your butt kicked all the time in the open field? If the answer to both questions is yes then you should definitely swap YSG for Zhuge Liang OR go all in on getting your archer gear to iconic level 4. After that it becomes a question as to whether or not you're getting enough kills. If the answer is no then you should replace Boudica with an AOE commander... Like Hermann, but not necessarily Hermann.
@johne9819 5 ай бұрын
And then Lilith brings in leadership commander that removes “increased skill damage” from near by allies. Similar to William 😂
@Amir-zg2pb 5 ай бұрын
When is the next update coming
@twin__turbo__8980 5 ай бұрын
Time to think about commanders for cancel this poisen , like boudica prime expertise
@kureha6663 5 ай бұрын
What should I do get gorgo to replace my outdated Harold or get Herman to replace my aethfled which is being paired with zhug. I am running 3inf 1cav 1arch
@Coregame3 5 ай бұрын
hermann
@realjohnlove 5 ай бұрын
Hermann lol.
@zkx2417 5 ай бұрын
Hermann! Why are u using aethl with zhuge thats so glasscanon
@sirmix272 5 ай бұрын
Can you for sure say that none of the murder ball marches had equipment on ?
@serhatgurkan8341 5 ай бұрын
I was Ramesses -YSG and Boudi 5551-Liang till now and a Nebu 5525 Benched, could i go Ramesses-Nebu Boudicca-YSG and Liang-HermannP now?
@gaiblexx1919 5 ай бұрын
Sounds good to me!
@Itachi-ph1sl 5 ай бұрын
Why did you bench Nebu for Ramses? At 5525 he has pretty much 95% value and is clearly still used from archer people unlike Ramses But yeah you can do that new setup, eventhough i woudn't recommend anyone 3 marches of one troop type if not a whale, as rss in that direction are then gone so fast, especially archers with a Ramses primary that everyone will first target.
@serhatgurkan8341 5 ай бұрын
@@Itachi-ph1sl ye i dont have any other marches, my acc is like 4-5 years old with breaks in it, and i always focused on archers and i still do, i have only Equipment for archers and nothing else unfortunately
@ostreych3403 5 ай бұрын
Ramses is outdated since 2022 lol 😂
@serhatgurkan8341 5 ай бұрын
@@ostreych3403 still getting good trades
@mehmetdereroberer5553 5 ай бұрын
Boudicca zhue or zhue hermann?
@Deehyaz 5 ай бұрын
I think, if all your after are the poison stacks in a big brawl, you don't even have to expertise Hermann. Just get him to 5111 (5511 is better) and your KVK brawls will be good.
@karlitofitness48 5 ай бұрын
How did you come to that conclusion lol
@Deehyaz 5 ай бұрын
@@karlitofitness48 this is from a Kingdom perspective, not individual. If your kingdom has more Hermann (expertised or not) than the opponent, then your KD will be winning brawls.
@alessiogiglio5889 5 ай бұрын
Paired with who?
@JKM1313 5 ай бұрын
5,5,1,1 is good, but the def reduction on him is very powerful so 5,5,5,1 is VERY good, but yeah he is crazy, but I have to skip him for now😢 cuz I still didnt max my Liu Che
@OST1909 5 ай бұрын
@@alessiogiglio5889with Normal Herrmann 😅😂
@pound4pound380 5 ай бұрын
I knew just by reading his stats he is open field and canyon and swarming rally and Garrison. 1v1 is just to test a commander skills out and to see if he or she is primary and secondary abd simply how to get the skills to line up properly with the best commander. Huo / Nevsky isn't losing one on one plus if you are bringing that to the open field you are losing to much value. You can't use Garrison and rally fighting styles in a group fight.
@manuelvelasco2761 5 ай бұрын
I only use inf and just 1 archer march. Thing is, with inf becoming all about smite idc about hernan debuf, just want my archers to give good trades. So.. boudica or him for my expertise zl?
@simbatheking2686 5 ай бұрын
the difference between humble farmers report and mori one was also that mori was using ottaman civ and humble was not
@EM_opposition 5 ай бұрын
chisgule have you ever considered a restart? i feel like it would be fun and refreshing to go through kvk 1 and be a part of a really special kingdom. i also would love some more early game based videos. no matter what keep it up bro u got me in to this game and ive watched you for two years straight.
@TJMiton 5 ай бұрын
the account he did this testing on is literally that, he just did it a while ago.
@walterventuri8179 5 ай бұрын
Visto che in molte delle sue abilità, non è specificato arceri, si potrebbe usare in combinazione con Scipione e fanteria?scipio +herman prime?
@jimibones178 5 ай бұрын
They didn't flip. Your herman is reducing skill damage. That hits a nevsky march hard, but doesn't affect a march doing smite damage
@nattacka 5 ай бұрын
should i get Zhuge or herman first?
@KarasuHarumichi 5 ай бұрын
zhuge definitely. no contest
@ostreych3403 5 ай бұрын
In other words, another delicious snack for Huo 😂
@charon3444 5 ай бұрын
just wait 4-6 months until you get a good pair for Huo then you get big snacc
@Oliver-bh5tr 5 ай бұрын
Cav mains rise up
@DDKKAY 5 ай бұрын
I think next Cavalry commander will be immune to Poison 😃so everything that Comes from Hermann will be useless 😂
@ramos_pinho117 5 ай бұрын
I m cav main and already maxed him So hou march nev, xy marches do bigger damage
@ramos_pinho117 5 ай бұрын
If you are just 1-2 marches players than yeha skipp. You don t have much dps anyways. But it helps your alliance
@bugrahanaydn5329 5 ай бұрын
Hermann Pirmary and YSG secondary would be good ? my YSG is sleeping at the moment and ı need to utilize it ?
@monkeyrun 5 ай бұрын
I think hermann should be hidden behind someone. otherwise he will be targeted first.
@Coregame3 5 ай бұрын
@@jimjohnes not in d kingdoms
@Coregame3 5 ай бұрын
@@jimjohnes not in D kingdoms that are 4 years old
@Natalious2001 5 ай бұрын
Will other herman primes stack each other?
@Chisgule 5 ай бұрын
Yep. There can be a total of 15 poison stacks and they all share one debuff designation, “poison”
@desovl9685 5 ай бұрын
All will focus archers first
@omaralmousa2162 5 ай бұрын
I have 3 march now Nev / Jan . Juan /scipi Hua /william . what the 4 march ? Liu chi with Sargon Or laing /Herman
@stevie_tv3198 5 ай бұрын
I'd go for zhuge hermann and afterwards liu che instead of guan. He's so much better.
@user-cy9fp3nf9j 5 ай бұрын
As someone who doesn’t own Boudica prime. Do you think I should go for Herman instead?
@Itachi-ph1sl 5 ай бұрын
yes 100%
@Coregame3 5 ай бұрын
duh
@WillofD18 5 ай бұрын
Better have ZL too
@XanderROK 5 ай бұрын
ZL 1st
@DDKKAY 5 ай бұрын
Boudica is strong, but now is third Archer commander priority, 1.Zhuge Liang. 2. Hermann Prime.3. boudicca or Ashur.
@dawoodmalik2252 5 ай бұрын
Hi
@snabygamer 5 ай бұрын
Asurabani test combos
@originalsabo9372 8 күн бұрын
Hermann Need maxxed?
@wintermansion 5 ай бұрын
Hahahaha. Someone in my kvk maxxed this new commander, and got owned instantly 😂😂
@winstonwolf6791 5 ай бұрын
You would need to do the 5x5 test where the archer march is focused down first before you can claim he is a kvk winner. In my experience archer marches are usually focused first and with Herman that will almost certainly be the case. If you have a bunch of Scip/Liu marches focus down the ZL/Herm marches before the poison is able to max stack, the results could be flipped on its head.
@jigga123 5 ай бұрын
yea i agree, content creators like to make bold claims early. we need to see a lot more real-world testing to form an actual opinion.
@adrianvega3229 5 ай бұрын
Most people play in DOT mode so they don’t choose who they target and if you’re not playing in DOT mode then you are not doing it right lol. People swear they can organize a bunch of players to just focus down on a single commander.
@winstonwolf6791 5 ай бұрын
@@adrianvega3229 Depends on your tech. If you can play without lag and are playing in DOT mode, then you are not doing it right. 😉
@TJMiton 5 ай бұрын
there's going to be a tipping point in the field where you dont get any value from more hermans since theyre going to stack to max very quickly. IMO people who run 1 archer march and already have boud/ZL should not be looking to invest here.
@manuelvelasco2761 5 ай бұрын
I only have zl expertise. Boudica or hernan now? I dont care about debufing with my arches, for these march i only care about trades
@siloecontreras8185 5 ай бұрын
NOTE pakal is immune to poison 😈
@assassinwolf7216 5 ай бұрын
"Decimate" means to kill one tenth of an opponents troops.
@john2g1 5 ай бұрын
Well just one tenth of anything... Originally decimate meant to kill 1/10 of your own troops as a collective punishment. But that's not how anyone uses that word anymore... Except you and a few other people from the "well actually" crowd. Don't worry I see the irony; I'm a card carrying member of the "well actually" crowd too.
@Coregame3 5 ай бұрын
"a couple" also just means 2 (not 3 or 4).
@zmobelz 5 ай бұрын
So who do i pair him with? Boudica? Zhuge? Hermann first or second?
@user-zt7ez6zj7n 5 ай бұрын
Pretty sure this is all covered in the video
@rainmaker8451 5 ай бұрын
he is a support commander.. he is not good in one ve one.. but in group fight.. he is so good
@sukeforth7043 5 ай бұрын
Look at Scipio P. He's a support commander but he's amongst the strongest in 1v1s. Just bc you're a support commander, doesn't mean you suck in 1v1s.
@rainmaker8451 5 ай бұрын
@@sukeforth7043 you do not know what herman effect when he is in murderball.. he is just like joan of arc doible aoe
@sukeforth7043 5 ай бұрын
@rainmaker8451 Oh I understand him. I'm just pointing out your logic is flawed. Not all support tree commanders are not good in 1v1s. Literally the best 1v1 commander pair is a support commander as primary.
@bjross82 5 ай бұрын
RIP wood
@ghostshrimp7847 5 ай бұрын
So basically zhuge herman is good in big balls but weak in open field and 1v1s.
@RandyRodgirth 5 ай бұрын
Murderballs is open field, just not a great 1v1 march, which doesn’t matter at all.
@ghostshrimp7847 5 ай бұрын
@@RandyRodgirth open field I mean like attacking stragglers, like the ones nitpicking at each other, no murder balls. It's just for my kingdom in kvk1 and kvk2 there were a lot of stragglers mostly high-tech or whales.
@rashidahmohd9760 5 ай бұрын
If you wanna hit moving single target at field, you need cav(speed) aka huo because he single target com, or use nevsky 😊 archer is slow to chase 😂 so don't worry that herman P will lose 1vs1 because you not gonna use him to chase or run, just need him in the ball 😊
@bjross82 5 ай бұрын
archers will be targeted before 25 stacks hit. Not a good investment.
@mularider5632 5 ай бұрын
Mixed kingdom ark teams will come
@sabo512 4 ай бұрын
I don't need herman prime we need sun tzu prime🗿
@Sheriff_Universe 5 ай бұрын
I feel like Trajan / Herman will be op, I just don't play this game anymore to test it
@ninjaofthenastypr 5 ай бұрын
Pakal shrugs poison off
@XanderROK 5 ай бұрын
Pakal still gets destroyed.
@ninjaofthenastypr 5 ай бұрын
@@XanderROK idk i still trade positive when he gets swarmed
@georgiminkov3078 5 ай бұрын
wow bro, the game slowly but surely is going for high spenders 😢 it was community based now is only stupid stats and deep pockets 😒
@curtispavlovec 5 ай бұрын
Been that way for years already
@georgiminkov3078 5 ай бұрын
@@curtispavlovec now its the peak point... this constant rolling out of new commanders that dominant and all kds are looking for whales only. no room for low spenders any more but I'm find will just STOP loosing time on it and focus on RL and (for some players) Yes there is RL too 😆
@YeahBundy123 5 ай бұрын
Other then that it’s time based right? Because I’m almost 60 mil power 99% f2p and if a whale started now and wanted to unlock t5 early game it would probably cost 10k or more. The entire time Ive played I keep boosting up in ranks in the kingdom. I was well around 500 for awhile stuck in the 2nd alliance now I’m around 100 in my kingdom in the main alliance. Consistently is definitely key.
@realjohnlove 5 ай бұрын
@@georgiminkov3078even the younger kingdoms are trying to customize whale 1 alliance kingdoms.
@elijahh9 5 ай бұрын
Just swarm the archers first, problem solved lol
@Oske-kb3eb 5 ай бұрын
first
@JustGreendude45-vu4hg 5 ай бұрын
You are second.
@HavyzNyx 5 ай бұрын
he winning kvks LOL
@tobias_rieper6963 5 ай бұрын
Herman really sucks in open field, easyly crush by my martel x LC
@robchef32 5 ай бұрын
Tommy herman sucks
@aedam98soon92 5 ай бұрын
this dude noobbbb totally does like cavalry LOL especially Huo Quibing 😂 we never subcribe u lol . Huo qubing with william boudica and nevsky destroy everyone . guys wake up guys this dude not fair
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@Alertthememory 5 ай бұрын
Should i replace my ysg expertise or invest 390 heads on him to pair with ZL? Im short on heads 🥲 pls help
@kangkopi1865 3 ай бұрын
do you have the answer bro ? , i also have the same problem
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