Ubisoft: C&D, PEASANTS!

​@@darkdillUbisoft attacks with bad luck!

They often do major updates at the end of year.

I believe all HotA updates come out around NYE, but this time we had no warning. Very pleasantly suprised

This soundtrack was written by the original Heroes 3 composer. He wrote all other songs for the game.

@@Edarnon_Brodie bruh, what? HotA tracks are written by other composers.

@@Edarnon_Brodie i was aware that Docent Picolan is the composer for Cove and Factory R.I.P.

is it a mod?

@@TheAleksandros Yep, from HotaCrew - creators of Cove city (Horn of the Abyss).

​@TheAleksandros honestly is the best mod for H3 that feels like an official expansion.

@@justacatwithghostlygibus9823 IT IS an official expansion

@@justacatwithghostlygibus9823 With 100% honesty, H3 Complete from NWC is super outdated and Horn of the Abyss took it's place officially. Hota is the most popular game mode out there and is treated as the sequel of SoD, AB and RoE, since it builds on the already Completed H3 game.

go, go, power rangers :)

Paul Romero himself composed it

@@iPostiPodiEatiYuri He didn't. He did the campaign theme.

Yes but music rights and also professionals need for those town themes . Great that HOTA team have them all! We may do Conflux (13th town) to 7.5 mod but music rights and engine mod possibilites not always good for new theme sadly.

tbh I think Cove doesn't look good. It's kinda squished together and there's not enough visual contrast. But this one looks great. If I didn't know I'd believe it's an original H3 town.

@@JN-hs5xl I kind of like that about Cove's design. The town looks like a cove with a cliff where smugglers escaped to sell their loot, which over time as the hideout became progressively more wealthy grew into a thriving criminal community. It's good visual storytelling.

​@@JN-hs5xl, fully built Cove with Grail looks amazing tbh

Yes this is really similar to Forge. Xel is a little too from H 7 7.5 mod.

To be fair if you read descriptions of heroes most were druids, mages, beast lords, barbarians, etc.

It is kinda romantic in campaign - the Inventor, Romantic-imagineer halfling and her folk suffered an kreegan invasion and still, trying to build a new home on a new continent. That's kinda tragic and inspiring at the same time.

@@ArturFlintchannel Good answer. I'd say 'steampunk' is, at its heart, a romantic genre, and that seems to be what flows through this faction.

I feel like Tower already occupied the niche of inventions and science, making this theme less original.

tower theme is also romantic - like and works great

@@randompimp8192 Necropolis are also those mages, but in spirit section. And with more capilatism. While Factory are more like free inventors, compared to strict rules in Bracada. Tower is Soviet-like university and Factory is "Tesla doing mad things, but they actually work". IMHO, of course, but since Yogg campaign from NWC and some of Horn of the Abyss texts are moving towards that direction (and Factory slaps hardly on that even in first scenario), I bet, there is some truth in that.

Конечно, потому что её оригинальной композитор героев 3 сделал. Его попросили)

@@Edarnon_Brodie Серьёзно, Пола Ромеро?

@@TheGoodLuc нет, чел не в курсе. Музыка Пола звучит в меню кампании, а не в городе

@@Edarnon_Brodie Его попросили и он облажался. Поэтому его музыку в меню кампании поместили. А для города написали новый трек.

@@Crazy-Drokon То есть? А откуда информация?

I has already been released with the latest version of HotA on the last day of 2023.

@@youdonegoofed is that truth? I remember I heard something about Factory, checked HOTA and nothing... You gave me hope... Gonna check it once I get home... I hope you are not mislieading me... that would... broke my peni... i mean heart...

Yes it's out and its amazing!

@@ladislavprchal7537 yeah its out! in all its glory

Кстати, не подмечал. Тут на форумах активно вспоминали, что Фабрика - это маги из 2ых героев. Но ведь домики полуросликов - это точно такие же дома огров... (И сюжетно даже имеет смысл, ведь во второй миссии полуросликов именно в пустующие дома огров и заселили)

Lol.

Wtf

📍😭📍

now i can't unseen this xD

HOTA not entirely Russian team. They confirmed that when war started, Ukrainian teammates couldn't work on project the same as before, so that's why development of Factory really slowed down and postponed to 2023-2024.

Dunno, for me it feels odd that they rejected the track made by Romero for this town.

I don't want to disappoint you, but the Factory soundtrack was written by original Heroes of Might and Magic composer, Paul Romero. He is not Russian.

@@Edarnon_Brodie Paul Romero wasn't the one who make Factory's town theme. It was made by Docent Picolan (the leader of the HotA crew) and Maigret, who I think is another member of the crew(?). Paul Romero is the one who made the campaign's theme.

@@andrzejnadgirl2029 It wasn't that good, you can still hear it in campaign menu and it sounds like good background music, nothing spectacular

Хз, эту музыку Пол Ромеро писал, он все остальные саундтреки к Героям написал.

@@Edarnon_Brodie конкретно эту музыкальную тему написал не Пол (прочитай описание к видео). Музыка Ромеро звучит при выборе миссий в кампании фабрики

No, he's not. The initial intention was like that tho.

Nope. He got switched to made the campaign's theme instead because they felt it fit better.

@@Crazy-Drokon well that's odd. I wonder why would he quit

@@koneliw7240 It doesn't sound like his version on NY from 2020, so team transmitted it to campaign theme. You could find more info on ForumDF2, somewhere in Factory topic.

He is not credited, even thought this theme sounds very similar to his

It's used for Factory's campaign theme. IMO, his take is too understated to work as a town theme, so I agree with the HotA crew's choice to go with this theme instead.

@@murlocaggrob2192Honestly speaking, I like Paul Romero initial trailer take on piano the best. Two other versions are not as pompous at it was, I think it would fit well for a city. Not changing the music itself, just making it play at faster rate and hitting harder like that piano take.

@@dziku2222 That was Docent Picolan's version. Romero just promised to complete the track after Docent passed away.

Actully because Hota crew are fixed bags, and also they CAN a do something new.

It's added in the Horn of the Abyss mod

Yesterday they posted a release with a factory where they added a campaign with it

I know because I've already been through their company since the third time @@dmitryzhukov6164

Пока планами на новые города никто не делился

Он согласился написал, команда послушала и определила его музыку в качестве темы кампании (на канале тут же есть рядом), а для города другой человек эту мелодию сделал.

It's used for the campaign. The HotA Crew said a few years ago that they didn't feel like Romero's score fit what they had in mind for the town.

@@murlocaggrob2192 So the HotA Crew think they know better than original Heroes 3 composer? O_o Hmn...

@@Olagfigh Well you should listen to Romero's track and I'm sure you would agree with Hota team's decision.

@@Olagfigh They're under no obligation to be forced to use something they don't want to use. It's their project. If they want to put in the extra legwork to make it perfect, all the power to them.

@@Olagfigh Because it's *their project* so probably that's why they can know better ??

It has been released 2 months ago.

The music is so romantic (and not mechanical) because it tries to convey the mood of a bright future for the settlers from Eofol.

He was working, but the final track didn't sound like town theme and was used in campaign.

@@Crazy-Drokon ty for clarifying 💜

Nieprawda ;) Ja mam zainstalowane w zupełnie innym miejscu niż domyślna ścieżka i hula.

both this theme and Paul's theme are based on melody composed by Docent Picolan. They have similar parts but only because they both are a "remix" of the initial music piece

@@Crazy-Drokon oh, I understand, thanks

Ага, только под видео с музыкой Пола, плиззз)) Это произведение написал не Пол)

Вроде бы он

@user-zs6lf5gl5o тогда кто такой Maigret

@@tardeistv7322 я выяснил. Тему для компании писал Пол Ромеро. Тему города доделали хота крю

То что написал Ромеро было использовано для новой компании

Тогда ясно

It's actually good one, but team forgot to script that) At least, they're saying that in Forum DF2.

it makes for me no sense that Elementhal is neutral and this new faction is a good one.. that makes no sense to me :) @@ArturFlintchannel

@@koda8565 Why elementhal is neutral makes no sence to you?

The history tells that the elemntahls with theeire fayries and phoenixes are allies to the humans and elves .. they all fight íng for mother nature u know :) @@ArturFlintchannel

@@koda8565 Well, NWC's elementals are wild powers, so like true neutral - will help against kreegan (yet after Escaton's drive them into madness), but only to protect their former planet, even if they are prisoners because of the Ancients. I bet, they'll try to destroy all humans if they stay in free after M&M VIII and HoMM III, not like "oh, your masters and creators trapped four of us inside 4 spheres, so we will help you because we're so kind!"

The main popular music style during the Industrial Revolution was Romantic music. Just because a culture becomes heavily industrialized doesn't mean they want to hear it reflected in their music. People listen to music to relax and disconnect from their daily toil, not to be reminded by it. The world hasn't all switched to techno or some other "futuristic" genre just because we've moved past the year 2000 like the naive sci-fi of the 40-60s was portraying it.

@@xKinjax The entire heroes soundtrack is orchestral, nobody talking about synths. Each town has its own distinct orchestral sound: Necro, horror Rampart, nature Tower, christmas waltz etc. In that context more percussion would have been appropriate. Spicatto, Staccato articulations on brass, an exotic instrument. A work bell, like in a western or an anvil being hit at the start of every other bar or at the start of a section. This theme could fit for other factions with begs the question, why a factory themed faction? It's not as strongly associated with the faction as say the necromancer or cove faction music is to their respective towns. It doesn't scream gears and industrialization at all which is why it's not a great theme for this faction. It's good music but it doesn't fit well.

​​@@DanIel-fl1vc It's a remnant from when the town was much more heavily cowboy-themed. Compare this track to The Ecstacy of Gold from The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly, and you'll catch more than a few similarities. I still think it fits. Factory isn't just about gears and technology, but also a new people settling a country in a harsh frontier.

@@murlocaggrob2192 I didn't pay enough attention to the background, the spinning star in the upper left corner. The tower with the circular windows on the right side. You could interpret those as "steampunk, height of science", (Myst the game). Then the bombastic atmospheric heightened music could fit. Read too much into the name "factory" as well as the arid beaten down look of the landscape. They should have called the faction "Science", or "Academia", not put the buildings in a dust bin. Then it would be a perfect fit. A simple color correction on the background might accomplish it. Less saturated, more white desert dunes look. It looks dirty, the music sounds clean.

Yeah, the main sad part of this was definitely that they didn't use what Romero played. Hope they change the music back to Romeros sample from that video

@@khansterbeam95 how can you use a wip from youtube, please tell me

@@Crazy-Drokon I'm sure you can download it and swap it with the current used version in the files, but I'd much rather they change it officially, which they can if they want 🙏

Not this faction. This is Steampunk. The cancelled faction was called Forge and had cyborgs. So the idea was toned down a lot. But I find it ironic that the Factory has giant robot with laser but now people are okay with that.

​@@Crazy-Drokon Well, yes, I agree. Heavily reworked. But the strategy fans didn’t really like the concept at the time 😃

​@@Crazy-DrokonThe big laser robots is way more Steampunk than a cyborg-tank Naga with flamethrowers and plasma blasters.

Well, Romero's one for this city, but after 2020 wasn't great too (I think, you could hear maestro's version as campaign theme right now).

100% agree

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@@ArturFlintchannel Yes,I dont know why but new campaign theme not good too :(

@@JackLaw12 Docent plays it in "Factory Leitmotif Streamfest 2023" and Romero plays how he's evolved it at the 1:30 mark in "An Address to the Horn of the Abyss community"

Like a bit,yeah

Это написал не Ромеро. Этот трек написал Maigret. Трек Ромеро, который не взяли в качестве темы города, выложен на этом канале в другом видео.

@@Ell_Dea нашёл Ромеровскую. его мне не понравился совсем.

@@DenisZolotcev Команде тоже не зашёл в виде темы города, поэтому и перекинули на кампанейский, да.

In what place?

@@goldy8278 oops my mistake. It’s 3.5

​@@Vlagnar3.5 is often considered as WoG add-on, while this one is HotA ;) developed, but Heroes 3 still.

@@goldy8278 where can I get it?

what exactly is "less fitting"? And what is the problem with cove?

@@Crazy-Drokonrobots, lasers and western shooters are less fitting, flamethrowers are less fitting. just as yarr pirates and cannons are less fitting to a game that was supposed to be about mythology. and just overall the creatures, towns and items lack the imagination that the official content has. it reeks the forced fan fiction content it is. i don't mind if someone else likes it but at least allow people to turn it off and just enjoy the balance and qol improvements.

@@Eye_Exist Might & Magic is a sci-fi game. Gods are technologically advanced precursors, the Kreegans are invading alien locusts, and Angels are robots built to exterminate said aliens. If you play through Factory's campaign, it marries the Heroes of Might & Magic side with the original Might & Magic games. It's VERY faithful to the original lore.

@@murlocaggrob2192 irrelevant, because HoMM3 was a mythological medieval fantasy game until the introduction of hota, which further changed the concept into scifi world and some western nonsense by introducing factory town. it's irrelevant if it's faithful to the M&M-lore, because it's not faithful to the theme of the HoMM3 game itself. it's all good if they choose to create this type of content, but as the 'the' modernization of the HoMM3 game they should at least allow people to choose whether they want to take the different path with them and let to choose the content they want to include in the game. who would that hurt?

@@Eye_Exist You know the OG creators New World Computing was going to introduce Space Orcs (which the OG creators of HotA took inspiration of Factory and toned it down) after Conflux and both Devils and Angels are actually Robots, Kreegans (Devils) are from another planet like aliens right? Like it's totally a canon lore. Not to mention Mana is cosmic energy (magnetic energy to be precise) and not magic. It's a thorough Sci-fi game. On a regular basis, where Aliens can travel through space and angels being mechanical robots, Factory struggling to be a Victorian Era faction is mild at best.

Тут ни паропанка, ни стимпанка (одно и то же), а давно уже дизельпанк. Увы.

> ...я понимаю что его мелодию засунули в компанию... Жалко, что не ту, где был кусок, потому что его то как раз Пол и не развил, а сделал тему то ли с нуля, то ли со своих заготовок, но ИМХО, среди трёх тем Фабрики, версия Доцента и арранжировка Пола Ромеро выглядит самой мощной. Что не убавляет крутости текущей темы города. Всё же в ней мотив Доцента чувствуется.

Разрабы говорили что ожидали от Ромеро то что он играл в Випке, а потом Ромеро выдал финальный трек и он звучал совершенно по-другому.

@@Crazy-Drokon Понял, жалко конечно

Разве? А в что не так?

​@@vas_._sfer6157очень большой контраст по сравнению с оригинальной музыкой. Совершенно другой характер звучания. Нет того огонька. Хоть в оригинале все мелодии разные, но они в целом обладают общей аурой. А эта не вписывается в общий настрой.

@@Efrim_Timofeev Ну так уже и не классический музыкант допиливал, по сути своей. С другой стороны, Пола Ромеро тоже куда-то не туда унесло с темой города.

@@ArturFlintchannel потому что когда Ромеро писал свою музыку для третьих героев, он был в кураже. По строению и звучанию музыки, было видно что автор испытал огромное вдохновение. Тут не просто красивая музыка, она наполнена какой то "магией" , она создаёт невероятную атмосферу в игре. Конечно же спустя время тот же автор уже не сможет повторить прежнее исполнение, для этого нужно поймать ту волну, которая давно уже прошла и не вернётся.

It does suit the vibe of the campaign. Like Cove was.