Herschel Infrared heating - The smart route to net zero heating (Fully Charged Plus)

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Herschel Infrared heating - The smart route to net zero heating (Fully Charged Plus)

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Herschel Infrared Ltd

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@mary-anntarver5137 2 жыл бұрын

I've had infrared heating in my all electric flat for 3 winters now and fully endorse everything they claim about it.

@dansmif 2 жыл бұрын

I wish the government would offer incentives to install IR heating like they do for heat pumps. I bought one of Herschel's small 220W under desk IR heaters out of curiosity just to try it, and it really is a very pleasant gentle warmth that they emit.

@jamesray1131 2 жыл бұрын

Great video looking forward to seeing this at fully charged 👍

@transitiontelford473 Жыл бұрын

There heritage lamps really fit in well with Ecocurch.

@bujin1977 2 жыл бұрын

I've been looking into options for replacing my gas boiler and am intrigued by IR panels, particularly after watching this video on Fully Charged. I'm trying to cut through the marketing hype to get to the really useful information as it's an expensive thing to install only to find out that (a) they don't work effectively, or (b) they cost twice as much to run as my gas central heating does. I've looked around at a couple of other suppliers and each one seems to recommend a different panel output for the same room size and composition values - for example, on Herschel it tells me that I need a 600W panel for my living room (approx 4m x 4m), whereas on another supplier's site, I'm told I need a 1200W one. Fair enough, I imagine that different panels are built to different specifications and some may be more efficient than others, but that's a *big* difference! I don't want to buy a panel and then find out it's either not powerful enough and I freeze in the winter, or too powerful and I spend a lot more money on heating my house than is necessary. It would be reallly good if someone offered the ability to "try out" a portable panel for a week or two, to see if it does the job. The one thing that all vendors of IR panels say is that it "only takes a few minutes to feel the heat from the panel". Yes, great. But what I want to know is how long does it take to heat up the *room* - the whole "walls absorbing and radiating back into the room" thing. And how long does that radiation last before I need to turn the panels on again? Granted, not an easy question for anyone reading this to answer as it depends on insulation, etc... and everyone will be different. What I don't want is to have to run the panels all day long just to feel the real benefit as that could work out very expensive. For anyone reading this who has replaced a gas boiler with IR panels, how do your heating costs compare? (And I mean people who still rely on the national grid as I don't yet have solar panels - it's something I'd like to do in future, but not yet).

@billm7037 2 жыл бұрын

Last winter, I replaced my gas central heating boiler with a complete, whole-house FIR system and can give you detailed feedback if you want. In short, it works very well and uses far less KWh compared to gas. All your questions are very valid and I can answer them directly if you want.

@bujin1977 2 жыл бұрын

@@billm7037 Thank you Bill. I would appreciate hearing of your experience.

@billm7037 2 жыл бұрын

@@bujin1977 Answers from my experience 1) What wattage? - different suppliers have slightly different ways of calculating the required wattage for a panel. One like Herschel's takes good account of the key variables over and about the room's dimensions, which includes the levels of insulation, size of windows, type of building materials etc. It also depends on the target temperature assumed as well. It doesn't save you heating costs by putting underpowered heaters in, I would always go over rather than under. 2) Time to heat up - yes the panels heat up quickly and you feel the effect quickly if you are under them, but optimal efficiency is gained when you have a decent baseline temperature through the gradual heating up of the room's surfaces, with the heat only topping up when you're in the room or to keep a baseline temperature sustained. It can take several days to get the background heat up, but that does not mean the heating has to be on continuously, just that the thermal mass temperature increases more gradually (for example, as the fabric of the house reduces moisture levels). 3) On all day? - Levels of insulation are key (as you will seen if you play around with the online wattage calculators with different thermal values. My experience is that they don't have to be on all day by any means. Also, when they are set to be on, they don't stay on continuously, the go on and off during the period set to on. But to give you an exact answer, based on my experience, it is probably better to have an offline email conversation. There are several other factors to take into account, which will be particular to your circumstances.

@bujin1977 2 жыл бұрын

@@billm7037 Thank you, Bill. I appreciate you taking the time to share your experience. It's given me a few things to think about. It's probably the wrong time to start thinking about installing panels at the moment with summer on the way, so they won't get a proper testing until the end of the year. But I have a plan! I'm in no major rush to install anything new as my current gas central heating is working well enough. So I may look at trying a single panel in my bedroom (which can get quite cold in the winter, even with the central heating on) and give it a trial. If it works well enough, I can start to look into fitting them in the other rooms in the house and moving away from gas.

@billm7037 2 жыл бұрын

@@bujin1977 I tested with one rad to start with like you. If you work from home at a desk I'd also recommend the under desk heater. However if you're going to go to a full house system, it is much better to use a proper heating management system such as the Salus range as these are much better suited and more durable.

@nicholasritchie742 2 жыл бұрын

I enjoyed your video, which was very helpful in expanding my 'home heating horizons'! However, after some thought, I realised that no mention was made of water heating. If one goes the Infrared space-heating route, is one then stuck with the manky old immersion heater in the hot water cylinder?

@rachelatbluedoorestateagen6613 2 жыл бұрын

Nicholas, you can keep your immersion, put it on a timer and heat your water at night on a low tariff with Octopus Energy. Then when it dies, you can replace it with a Heat Store. Sunamp make an amazing one that has been reviewed by Fully Charged too. The heat store can be charged via a heat pump, or solar, or plain electricity just as your current tank is. The solutions are out there and are much more flexible than you might think. Happy exploring!

@nicholasritchie742 2 жыл бұрын

@@rachelatbluedoorestateagen6613 Thank you, Rachel - much appreciated your response.

@drzavahercegbosnaponosna5974 4 ай бұрын

too good to be true.

@amoryblaine1102 Жыл бұрын

Hi .would a 800 watt panel fixed on the ceiling above the bed be able to heat directly underneath quickly? Not worried bout heating the room just the person directly underneath. The distance from the panel to the bed below would be 5.5 feet.

@williamwofford4919 2 жыл бұрын

Id be very careful by saying any resistive load is more than 100% efficient. not comparing like for like with a convection heater. How do they compare to split AC? or ASHP?