50+ New Yun Tal Interactions - Bel'Veth E, Twitch Ult, Viego Q and More!

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Күн бұрын

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Chapters:
00:00 - Does it stack?
00:25 - Bel'Veth E
01:05 - Jinx Q
01:16 - Twitch R
01:34 - Hurricane
01:45 - Yasuo Q
02:06 - Yone Q
02:12 - Towers
02:31 - Briar W
02:39 - Urgot W
02:46 - Zeri Q
03:01 - Zeri Q + E
03:08 - Zeri W
03:13 - Graves Passive
03:18 - Aphelios Severum
03:26 - Aphelios Infernum
03:32 - Aphelios off-hand
03:42 - Aphelios Tower
03:48 - Sivir W
03:54 - Empowered Pantheon W
04:01 - Bel'Veth Q
04:07 - Ashe Passive
04:13 - Ashe W
04:20 - Gangplank Q
04:25 - Gangplank E
04:31 - Fiora E
04:38 - Nilah Q
04:44 - Miss Fortune Q
04:49 - Miss Fortune Ult
04:58 - Shaco Passive + Q
05:08 - Rengar Q
05:18 - Talon Q
05:23 - Garen Q
05:28 - Garen E
05:33 - Samira Q
05:39 - Samira Ult
05:44 - Master Yi Passive
05:50 - Master Yi Q
05:56 - Vi E
06:01 - Kayle Passive
06:07 - Jayce W
06:16 - Shyvana Q
06:22 - Viego Q
06:28 - Lucian Passive
06:35 - Akshan Passive
06:40 - Jhin Ult
06:53 - Sundered Sky
07:11 - Rageblade
07:30 - Shadowflame
07:37 - Fake Crits
07:43 - Additional Bug
08:06 - Yun Tal vs. IE
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@HextechLab
@HextechLab 29 күн бұрын
Timestamps: 00:00 - Does it stack? 00:25 - Bel'Veth E 01:05 - Jinx Q 01:16 - Twitch R 01:34 - Hurricane 01:45 - Yasuo Q 02:06 - Yone Q 02:12 - Towers 02:31 - Briar W 02:39 - Urgot W 02:46 - Zeri Q 03:01 - Zeri Q + E 03:08 - Zeri W 03:13 - Graves Passive 03:18 - Aphelios Severum 03:26 - Aphelios Infernum 03:32 - Aphelios off-hand 03:42 - Aphelios Tower 03:48 - Sivir W 03:54 - Empowered Pantheon W 04:01 - Bel'Veth Q 04:07 - Ashe Passive 04:13 - Ashe W 04:20 - Gangplank Q 04:25 - Gangplank E 04:31 - Fiora E 04:38 - Nilah Q 04:44 - Miss Fortune Q 04:49 - Miss Fortune Ult 04:58 - Shaco Passive + Q 05:08 - Rengar Q 05:18 - Talon Q 05:23 - Garen Q 05:28 - Garen E 05:33 - Samira Q 05:39 - Samira Ult 05:44 - Master Yi Passive 05:50 - Master Yi Q 05:56 - Vi E 06:01 - Kayle Passive 06:07 - Jayce W 06:16 - Shyvana Q 06:22 - Viego Q 06:28 - Lucian Passive 06:35 - Akshan Passive 06:40 - Jhin Ult 06:53 - Sundered Sky 07:11 - Rageblade 07:30 - Shadowflame 07:37 - Fake Crits 07:43 - Additional Bug 08:06 - Yun Tal vs. IE
@SkinShowcase-zm3rs
@SkinShowcase-zm3rs 29 күн бұрын
Great video! Always helpful.
@reaprsoza4656
@reaprsoza4656 29 күн бұрын
does chakram passive stack it?
@yun754
@yun754 29 күн бұрын
where us kata ?
@houki6776
@houki6776 29 күн бұрын
How about yasuo E+Q
@SkinShowcase-zm3rs
@SkinShowcase-zm3rs 29 күн бұрын
@@houki6776 I will check
@NCognito
@NCognito 29 күн бұрын
The only requirements for Yun Tal to apply are that the damage critically strikes and the damage applies On-hit effects. Every ability interaction shown is functioning how it should, except for two: Shaco Q and Akshan Passive. They critically strike, and they apply on-hits, so what's the deal? After doing a little testing, I found out something: THEY ARE FAKE CRITS. They are completely ignored by the "Critical Resilience" passive on Randuin's Omen. Although the descriptions say "the attack critically strikes" like every other ability that crits, the damage is only reduced by the "Rock Solid" passive. That's why Shaco Q only applies the burn if he has actual crit chance, cause the original Attack crits, not the Q. So, if you've been building Randuin's Omen into a Crit Akshan, you are actually getting trolled by riot and taking about 12.24% more damage than you should be taking! If you've been playing Crit Shaco, you actually do more damage if you backstab someone with Q and DON'T crit. At 173ad, a Q backstab does 322 damage, "increased" to 255 if you crit naturally! How awesome, I love Riot Games :)
@Bigkingnecromancer
@Bigkingnecromancer 29 күн бұрын
Thanks for the research fellow faceless one Can Shaco Q double crit? As in natural backstab plus a crit from critchance?
@Briezar
@Briezar 29 күн бұрын
​@@Bigkingnecromancer if 2 crit effects overlap, the higher damage is applied.
@clovened4351
@clovened4351 29 күн бұрын
holy fuck
@Briezar
@Briezar 29 күн бұрын
ackshually the technical term is "cosmetic crit" ☝️🤓
@ceyx1201
@ceyx1201 29 күн бұрын
I mean with this analysis, you should make your own vid.
@pedromilesprouwer1283
@pedromilesprouwer1283 29 күн бұрын
Belveth 💀
@Yenandorr
@Yenandorr 29 күн бұрын
with guinsoo 💀💀💀
@LeLouisLafontaine
@LeLouisLafontaine 29 күн бұрын
@@Yenandorr omg yeah, guinsoo 💀💀💀
@HextechLab
@HextechLab 29 күн бұрын
@@Yenandorr imagine Riot wouldn't have backed out of the melee Runaan's changes...
@dariusfilip4695
@dariusfilip4695 29 күн бұрын
belveth eating good this patch
@user-xh1on8qt3g
@user-xh1on8qt3g 29 күн бұрын
Useless item on bel, no hp and bel doesnt build crit
@VocalMabiMaple
@VocalMabiMaple 29 күн бұрын
This item is just a knowledge check item lmao
@Camiddle
@Camiddle 29 күн бұрын
As far as I can tell, it just seems like it checks to see if both a crit has occurred and an on hit is applied in the same instance, and you *should* be able to just make a list of abilities that can do both? Like, it makes sense that Urgot W wouldn't apply, because while it applies on hits, it can never crit. On the flip side, it explains why Twitch R bullets and Hurricane projectiles both apply the burn, given that both sources can crit and apply on hits. Jinx rockets/Zeri Q only apply on hits to the primary target, so even though they can crit multiple, only the target that can be hit by both in the same instance would take the burn. A few of the comments seem to think it's just rolling the dice for each champion, but I think if you know how said champions work, you should be able to accurately guess which champions/items/abilities it works on pretty easily. The only ones I'm surprised about is Shaco Q not proccing unless it was a rolled crit rather than forced and Akshan 2nd auto, but I suspect that's just classic spaghetti code. Thanks for reading, and while I can't promise it's the case, I think it's close enough to the truth that it's worth mentioning! (also I love the content, as always, and thanks for showing!
@saul2416
@saul2416 29 күн бұрын
We should also test if each of ashe's q bullet count or if it is like zeri and only the first bullet is checked for the crit (ashes q bullets roll for crit individually, so im talking about not having the 100% crit)
@Camiddle
@Camiddle 29 күн бұрын
@@saul2416 I think it's almost definitely just one proc per auto, given that she only applies one instance of on hit per auto regardless of her flurry count.
@NCognito
@NCognito 29 күн бұрын
dropped a longer reply in the comments somewhere, but basically Akshan and Shaco both have fake crits, even though the ability descriptions word it as if they are "real" crits, and every other ability worded that way function correctly
@HextechLab
@HextechLab 29 күн бұрын
Yes on-hit effects + crit is the requirement (and Akshan and Shaco are not real crits which is very surprising as NCognito pointed out). Still, I think the most important result for gameplay from this video is that modifiers like Bel'Veth E and Aphelios Severum which normally balance the insane amount of attacks are not applied to the burn. This makes it very strong on these champions (and useless on everybody else). After testing 5 or 10 champions I probably could have just stopped and concluded that on-hit effects + crit is the requirement. After testing a few champions with modifiers I could have also concluded that all modifiers are not applied. But at that point I just wanted to show all interactions, especially the strong ones. Which is good, since otherwise I wouldn't have found Akshan who I tested almost last. Sadly, I was so sure that Akshan is a real crit that I just thought that there are some real crits who don't apply and that it is just kind of random, so I did not put on-hit effects and crit as a requirement in a final conclusion into the video.
@nickschaus7785
@nickschaus7785 28 күн бұрын
Along your same lines of "If you know how they work", Shaco Q is a visual crit but not an actual critical strike. The most common example, mage spells with shadowflame ,'look' like crits, but really they are just damage modifiers and are not true critical strikes unless the attack itself was a crit. The only shockers in this video are the damage is not reduced by onhit reduction modifiers like belveth passive/e (This will likely be added before release or else this item will only be viable on like 3 champs and terrible for everyone else or viable for others and those champs will be permabanned) and that akshan passive does not work. Last one is just weird because it applies on-hit/on-attack effects and can critically strike, so there should really be no reason something like that wouldn't apply the effect twice.
@DillonMeyer
@DillonMeyer 29 күн бұрын
For Ashe, with JUST the arrows, your hits on targets slowed by her passive will always apply it, as her passive simply makes every hit a crit with severely reduced crit damage. It's worded to say it doesn't crit, but coded to always crit, even with 0% crit. The damage scales with both crit damage and chance. One thing you didn't touch on is if her autos after activating q apply it multiple times as it is multiple hits.
@Stachelbeeerchen
@Stachelbeeerchen 29 күн бұрын
Only Ashe's first arrow of a Q autoattack applies on-hit so it only applies once per auto.
@DillonMeyer
@DillonMeyer 29 күн бұрын
@@Stachelbeeerchen Makes sense.
@sentro5382
@sentro5382 28 күн бұрын
are you sure? im not sure that's the case. I thought ashe DID have crit chance, her crits just multiply the slow instead of dealing bonus damage (given her bonus damage is applied to already frosted targets as she builds crit chance). Remember that just because there's a crit icon doesnt mean an attack or ability crits, riot often use it to add satisfaction and clarity to bonus damage amplification.
@afterlyte
@afterlyte 28 күн бұрын
That's not how her passive works. Her attacks apply Frost which slows and causes subsequent hits to do bonus damage scaling with crit chance/crit damage multiplier. She still has standard crit chance, but instead of doing bonus damage it increases the slow from the Frost. It will still only apply the item burn on attacks that actually crit and apply that stronger slow, the only exception being her W which is a "cosmetic" crit that simply is there to show that her W always applies that stronger slow, but isn't actually a critical attack
@Flechashe
@Flechashe 28 күн бұрын
No, Ashe critically strikes like any champion in the game, she simply deals no bonus damage when she crits and instead applies a stronger slow. To compensate the damage she deals bonus damage to Frosted enemies, which is further increased by crit chance and crit damage, but that doesn't mean it's a critical strike.
@frequenista
@frequenista 29 күн бұрын
2 minutes ago lesgooo!!! The Bel interaction is crazy tho, I wonder if it will become meta for her
@sadjhin103
@sadjhin103 29 күн бұрын
Don't forget, we're back to our original Crit Damage bonus of 225% with Infinity Edge. Yasuo and Yone, Rengar and Tryn are going to see a significant uptick in play with those items to deal with slippery enemies. Rengar and Graves are going to be utilizing this item since their crits are stronger with their usual building lethality.
@6athory858
@6athory858 29 күн бұрын
we are not going to be using this on rengar man
@torahama362
@torahama362 29 күн бұрын
Graves too won't be utilizing this well imo. Cause the dot stacks, the best users are the one who attack fast, even better if they use hurricane.
@SwoggersLOL
@SwoggersLOL 29 күн бұрын
no. yas wr tanked after tempo nerfs. and ie had 225 since patch 14.6, which still didnt improve his wr. yone is still yone, so people will always win with him. I expect windshitter brother's winrate to tank since Tempo wont exist and they'll be forced to use inferior conq
@freshlymemed5680
@freshlymemed5680 29 күн бұрын
@@SwoggersLOL Winrate is gonna tank for the people who relied on it and even then all it did was give them early game advantage. Now they have slower early game but once they get tier 2 boots its back to the same bs but this time they do even more damage.
@andyvirus2300
@andyvirus2300 29 күн бұрын
@@freshlymemed5680even with that early game rune they were shit, so considering it is being removed, well lot of games are going to be finished before they are able to do anything
@soniclechat2825
@soniclechat2825 28 күн бұрын
so it's an on-hit effect that olny porc if the attack is a crit also for shadow flame, use it with a spell that applies on hit like WW Q
@travisatessier
@travisatessier 27 күн бұрын
It's always so interesting to see what does and doesn't qualify for meeting certain conditions in this game.
@pamdabeep
@pamdabeep 29 күн бұрын
Sooooo it's just old draven passive in item form, but better. Right.
@Rigele100
@Rigele100 29 күн бұрын
yes, at the moment i have seen this item the very first time, im instant remember the old draven passiv
@InnerTriggerer
@InnerTriggerer 27 күн бұрын
How about Shadowflame WITH Katarina R and passive? seem like criteria is Apply on hit AND can Crit. Since the spells are already apply on hit adding "can crit" item might make it work ?
@patty4449
@patty4449 29 күн бұрын
7:58 Yea check out your timer in the top right corner, it counts 2-09, 2-10, 2-10, 2-11 That bug is related to the old bug of false time... The clock in the top right is the ingame time which on the regular counts a second double, during this second tons of bugs happen.... This bug has existed since season one and is yet to be fixed... Ever...
@balrg
@balrg 29 күн бұрын
Whatt?!
@drinkingguy3168
@drinkingguy3168 29 күн бұрын
Can't seem to google it, can you give us the name of the bug?
@VegetaPixel
@VegetaPixel 28 күн бұрын
No? Maybe this bug exists but this sure isn't an example of it. It switches from 2:09 to 2:10 at 7:55 and 2:10 to 2:11 at 7:56.
@amethonys2798
@amethonys2798 29 күн бұрын
"Stacking" is a bit of a misconception and I think people are getting the wrong idea down here. It is moreso not overriding previous applications so you aren't punished for applying multiple instances. Each "stack" is treated individually and independent of others.
@Zwodo
@Zwodo 29 күн бұрын
I'm surprised we didn't get to see Aphelios' Chakrams. Or the interaction with healing reduction, which is only minor, but still. Thanks for your efforts, this was super interesting! I thought from the get-go that this item would need a hotfix buff because it's garbage, but it looks like it might have some unique use-cases. Although Bel'Veth looked a bit too insane ☠
@scamkick
@scamkick 29 күн бұрын
Aphelios’ chakrams only apply burn once, consider it the same interaction as Zeri’s AA
@Stachelbeeerchen
@Stachelbeeerchen 29 күн бұрын
I think Aphelios's Chakrams apply on-hit once just like the jinx rocket and sivir W did.
@haannguyen8749
@haannguyen8749 26 күн бұрын
GP autos apply both his passive and the item passive which burn you true damage and crit damage, combine with first strike.
@renneverbright
@renneverbright 27 күн бұрын
can Senna's Q apply the burn? I'm fairly certain it just can't crit, though the wiki says that the code just applies a basic attack to all champions hit by it, but just wanted to check
@edaxnex1560
@edaxnex1560 29 күн бұрын
Shyv empowered q applies on hit to multiple enemies. I suggest trying that out. Since if it works,you could apply this to the entire enemy team
@spicytunah8043
@spicytunah8043 26 күн бұрын
Her Dragon form Q can only crit once, it can’t crit both times. You’re better off going with something else. The current Liandry’s build on her works just fine for this purpose.
@crydegolem4135
@crydegolem4135 16 күн бұрын
Yun tal procs on “Basic Damage” types, usually in the form of an auto, can apply on hit effects (the 1st condition usually guarantees they already do) and it must be able to crit/ have a crit modifier. If something doesn’t apply the burn that you thought would, then that something might be a different damage type that doesn’t work, doesn’t apply on hits or isn’t capable of crits. Sourced from the LoL fandom wiki. Edit: forgot to mention that a cosmetic crit doesn’t count (it is used for clarity on damage increase due to conditions within the ability itself), similar to Karthus’ Q on single targets and which should include shaco Q.
@jae7798
@jae7798 29 күн бұрын
Does ashe's passive work on this? If her target is affected by frost shot, she deals crit damage on her AAs. She can basically proc this everytime building this first.
@saul2416
@saul2416 29 күн бұрын
You can actually tell when ashe crits. The slow is bigger when the attack crits(the font tells that too). The damage modifier is a completely different thing. What we should test is if her q works (each individual bullet) since they are considered separately by crit chance and you can pretty much garantee the bigger slow with 25 crit on every auto
@PinHeadSupliciumwtf
@PinHeadSupliciumwtf 29 күн бұрын
Thought the same
@Stachelbeeerchen
@Stachelbeeerchen 29 күн бұрын
These are "fake" crits. Ashe can actually critically strike but it only affects her slow so you can critically slow. I think this item will work when you critically slow someone. Otherwise it would be busted.
@Stachelbeeerchen
@Stachelbeeerchen 29 күн бұрын
​@@saul2416Ashe's tooltip of her Q specifically says that only the first arrow of her Q volley applies on-hit. So only the first tick of one auto will apply the burn.
@donange-louisorsini8062
@donange-louisorsini8062 13 күн бұрын
does it prock with the crit the yorick's ghoul do when you hit someone with his E ?
@kassaken6521
@kassaken6521 10 күн бұрын
Yuntal Twitch with runnans is actually crazy. Its the new static shiv burst
@puregameplay7916
@puregameplay7916 4 күн бұрын
Rushing this right after a sheen on my jungle wukong has been insane. Finish it, finish trinity force, throw an infinity edge on top, and then last item is situational, either phantom dancer or blade of the ruined king. If im facing a WW jungle or a briar or yi, I build executioners calling right after the sheen, completely shuts down their healing. Finish it into mortal reminder as my situational item right after the infinity edge. Wukongs never felt so powerful lol.
@gerjose3944
@gerjose3944 27 күн бұрын
So it’s just a twitch 4th item? (also maybe jinx) bc viego and velveth aren’t building crit
@TukangReport
@TukangReport 19 күн бұрын
Of all the items, even in the recent update, the damage from everything is still sick and seems to require some balancing on several items and the abilities of the champions.
@dfrostbite4327
@dfrostbite4327 29 күн бұрын
I wonder if the new zephyr counts towards kalista's passive jump distance
@somaundead964
@somaundead964 24 күн бұрын
a good question would be does gangplank's barrels apply them alone?
@viket8316
@viket8316 29 күн бұрын
you forget about smolder since he transform crits into damage
@xaviergoulet-samoisette6023
@xaviergoulet-samoisette6023 26 күн бұрын
Yeah but it's fairly clear: Smolder's Q does not crit, its damage is *increased by crit chance. So it presumably doesn't work
@KhangTran-df1qx
@KhangTran-df1qx 28 күн бұрын
I wanna ask, can you build IE with navori now since navori lose the damage amp
@hoangao5487
@hoangao5487 8 күн бұрын
was hoping so much for sivir W to work, damn it
@georgyhoodini325
@georgyhoodini325 27 күн бұрын
What about yasuo E Q combo? does it apply on every target hit or just one?
@RexRagerunner
@RexRagerunner 29 күн бұрын
Yooo, they made Draven's old passive an item!
@RavenDumpster
@RavenDumpster 29 күн бұрын
cant wait to have this and IE on lethality senna :)
@Frightning
@Frightning 16 күн бұрын
hmm, Akshan double autos *not* applying Yun Tal's passive seems like a bug/oversight given that it applies other on-hits twice (or is this item treated as *on attack*?)
@Sol-gl3nl
@Sol-gl3nl 23 күн бұрын
yasuo and yone q only apply on hit effects to first target affected, so its normal.
@anthonyosei-kufuor2784
@anthonyosei-kufuor2784 29 күн бұрын
People need to understand that while it has some really strong interactions, you should realize that with these interactions it might see some play and even then it gets outshined by a good number of other crit items (Especially IE). However if it doesn't stack, the item won't see play AT ALL, since the entire appeal of it was that it stacks a lot and does a good bit of DoT as well. People screaming to get this changed should realize the implications of it. The item ceases to see any real use if it gets changed.
@curydude
@curydude 28 күн бұрын
they should rebalance it so it doesnt rely on niche interactions to be viable and instead doesnt stack but the burn is stronger and/or doesnt need crit and on-hit to be applied
@dooddoingstuff
@dooddoingstuff 27 күн бұрын
​@@curydude maybe it could just be an on hit, that gets increased damage when you crit? Sounds better for consistency
@CorpseGodX
@CorpseGodX 27 күн бұрын
Nah it would be garbage if that were the case its not ment for everyone just like how some adcs go crit and others on hit it just comes down to your champions skill set
@anthonyosei-kufuor2784
@anthonyosei-kufuor2784 26 күн бұрын
Issue is this item is made for people who do multiple crits at a time realistically, hence Belveth and Ashe being decent candidates. Other crit champs kill you with the crit they have pretty quickly. So quickly that it really isnt worth getting the itme anyways and youd rather just get IE to one shot better.
@firelynx1266
@firelynx1266 21 күн бұрын
i mean looking at the item, it seems its riots way of adding back the missing crit dmg to adc without making them too burst heavy. Placates persons that complained about adc's losing 200% crits.
@Lilybun
@Lilybun 29 күн бұрын
on-attack with crit conditional. think "can this apply runaans and crit" and it's pretty easy to understand at least for ranged.
@Flechashe
@Flechashe 28 күн бұрын
The burn is not affected by Bel'Veth's E modifier but it IS affected by her innate 75% damage modifier on basic attacks
@crydegolem4135
@crydegolem4135 16 күн бұрын
May be worth noting Ashe’s interaction with Yun Tal is still constrained by if she would hit a crit without her passive, she still won’t proc it consistently without 100% crit.
@my4stringsandme
@my4stringsandme 29 күн бұрын
I was kinda hoping it would proc on shadowflame. That would lead to some entertaining builds.
@kraftyevan
@kraftyevan 20 күн бұрын
I think this will be way stronger on rengar than people think. He can go Hubris into Yun Tal + Passive AD. His AD is so extremely high it will give really strong burn
@jannikwesthues1972
@jannikwesthues1972 28 күн бұрын
love you Videos. but try to get the text langer in the Video so i can read without having to pause the Video. other than that great job once again
@bahamutzero4903
@bahamutzero4903 26 күн бұрын
Just what I want in my crit build; 50 burn damage. Wow.
@sadjhin103
@sadjhin103 29 күн бұрын
Damn, didn't think IU'd see the day that my beloved item,Y̶u̶n̶ T̶a̶l̶ W̶i̶l̶d̶a̶r̶r̶o̶w̶s̶ Lightbringer would be back.
@Pigraider268
@Pigraider268 27 күн бұрын
Wait what?
@sadjhin103
@sadjhin103 27 күн бұрын
@@Pigraider268 Look it up. This new item is based off that old one.
@Cat-kv7jo
@Cat-kv7jo 24 күн бұрын
We were blessed by gods with that garen e not applying stacks
@va3lan992
@va3lan992 20 күн бұрын
ty for doing that but u forget katarina r and her dagger passive (sundered sky + this item),and akali e (sundered sky + this item),with that skills both of them can proc sundered sky both of them can crit that way ,and the item can proc the yun tal passive
@gabubfmvforever
@gabubfmvforever 29 күн бұрын
So a full crit Twitch with this item + Liandry must be fun
@navi5324
@navi5324 26 күн бұрын
Will it work on Teemo E with shadowflame?
@KontrolYT
@KontrolYT 29 күн бұрын
The best use I can see of it over IE is on fast attacking champs fighting tanks with thornmail and randuins, you would rely less on high damage crits that would get blocked and reflected more by thornmail and instead you could stack more damage with a burn. I could be wrong though, would have to test.
@HextechLab
@HextechLab 29 күн бұрын
Thornmail does not reflect damage based on damage dealt anymore since quite some time.
@santi3256
@santi3256 28 күн бұрын
Yun tal do AD damage so still the same. This item is just trash, i see only a good use on twitch and belveth (but belveth not gonna build it because crit belveth is just troll.
@KontrolYT
@KontrolYT 28 күн бұрын
@@HextechLab I meant that it could maybe require less autos to do more damage as you could get damage off with burn instead of just auto attacks, but I'm not sure if it would actually reduce the amount of autos required because you lose the extra crit damage.
@KontrolYT
@KontrolYT 28 күн бұрын
@@santi3256 Yes but the damage from the item doesn't crit, which is why I thought it would be better than IE against randuins because randuins reduces crit damage.
@santi3256
@santi3256 28 күн бұрын
@@KontrolYT Well that makes sense. But still not worth the damage difference wouldnt be too much and it would only work against the champ that have randuim.
@KIN65UPER
@KIN65UPER 29 күн бұрын
I'm glad they removed the item from ARAM and brought it here. The old look of the item is present in the arena mode, but its features are different.
@slloyd9892
@slloyd9892 28 күн бұрын
Hmm wonder if Yorick's ghouls apply it? Or is it ranged on hit only?
@wielbladtibijski
@wielbladtibijski 18 күн бұрын
ITS CRIT YOU DONKEY
@NikolaNiKucu
@NikolaNiKucu 29 күн бұрын
But, did you try Galio's passive smash with it? That one can crit!
@dizzyheads
@dizzyheads 15 күн бұрын
Only the main target
@RK99KR
@RK99KR 28 күн бұрын
This new item with collector seems strong.
@KodamaVictor
@KodamaVictor 25 күн бұрын
You forgot about Katarina’s passive and Ult, which I think are gonna be one of the most busted ones 😮
@lilliacaridadgardner6903
@lilliacaridadgardner6903 29 күн бұрын
Basically, it's Liandry's torment in ad
@ayas5050
@ayas5050 29 күн бұрын
what about aphelios's stacked chakram autos? or his ult?
@ebobab9564
@ebobab9564 29 күн бұрын
it's crazy it doesn't proc on shadowflame consdiering that in Arena you can proc hamstring/divine sunderer with abilities that crit via jeweled gauntlet
@Scotch20
@Scotch20 29 күн бұрын
Does wukong w apply the burn, and it is reduced?
@Tiksny161
@Tiksny161 11 күн бұрын
if you put shadowflame on kata and use her passive, shouldnt it work? It crits and does on hit damage. Same for R
@accountname902
@accountname902 28 күн бұрын
I would have liked to see if a forced crit from Shadowflame would work on abilities that apply on-hits, such as Evelynn's E, since the rule seems to be "It must both crit and apply on-hits"
@firelynx1266
@firelynx1266 21 күн бұрын
no, it states critical attacks, so only autos. unless weird bug/interaction.
@accountname902
@accountname902 21 күн бұрын
@@firelynx1266 right, but other abilities like belveth's e can apply it
@firelynx1266
@firelynx1266 20 күн бұрын
@@accountname902 Belveth's E is a basic attack modifier, so she still auto attacks during E. Shadowflame is weird tho, since it does interact with IE but only on the extra dmg.
@tazotazo8969
@tazotazo8969 16 күн бұрын
wished to see if shyvannas ult q applies yun tai to every thing it hits
@skelet8337
@skelet8337 28 күн бұрын
Yun tal+titanic hydra bel veth seems scary
@TvoyKami
@TvoyKami 16 күн бұрын
Лайк за проделанную работу)
@Numan_Ozakcil..
@Numan_Ozakcil.. 19 күн бұрын
There are no fake crits from skills.Those are actually max damage from skills like Aatrox Q or Karthus Q etc and they may seem like crit but they're not.
@lordmonocr6206
@lordmonocr6206 29 күн бұрын
Urgot w can’t e it anyways so that makes sense why it wouldn’t work
@earthsauce696
@earthsauce696 27 күн бұрын
samira abilities like q and ult should apply it because they can crit
@caseykong158
@caseykong158 29 күн бұрын
do stacked aphelios chakrams apply the burn? Aphelios can stack up to 20 chakrams and each one can crit.
@Stachelbeeerchen
@Stachelbeeerchen 29 күн бұрын
Like with other adc's probably not since abilities with multiple dmg instances only apply on hit once.
@-furiel2808
@-furiel2808 29 күн бұрын
Basically counted like on-hit effect
@hunteradams3269
@hunteradams3269 29 күн бұрын
Is this like old draven passive where on crit and q hits they would bleed?
@dorians2138
@dorians2138 27 күн бұрын
Riot need to watch this video and bugfix things accordingly. For example Bel'Veth's W needs a modifier, Akshan's passive should 100% work with this and other things
@foxstrut432
@foxstrut432 12 күн бұрын
I think the bug you mentioned is due to the nature of the game's tick rate
@renzjocefnavarro5001
@renzjocefnavarro5001 28 күн бұрын
yeah how about ashe with runans hurricane q active ? I'm talking about the unique interaction where ashe can attack multiple targets with runaans hurricane with q activated
@natsudragneel977
@natsudragneel977 14 күн бұрын
I was so excited to use this on samira…. :(
@MangaGamify
@MangaGamify 29 күн бұрын
esport matches are the only thing that has fixing *💸*
@jessblues848
@jessblues848 29 күн бұрын
damn. that end note made me real sad as i hoped it would be good on jhin!
@zerikiryuin4787
@zerikiryuin4787 27 күн бұрын
So they made a Crit Adc item, That Work on half of the Adc.. But Work Greatly good For fighter Bruiser?
@Jiroscopio_
@Jiroscopio_ 20 күн бұрын
Nah the biggest abuser will be Aphelios, Bel'Veth doesn't want to go crit
@roohni2226
@roohni2226 29 күн бұрын
So.. we added draven’s old passive to all adcs now? The passive that was so broken it was very quickly changed. Sure it procced on his Q but the power creep on this is insane.
@ix_risor
@ix_risor 29 күн бұрын
I mean… you have to buy it, and it gives less damage than infinity edge. On most champions, this is worse than IE, so you’re only buying it if you plan to stack them
@fozzyalfonso
@fozzyalfonso 28 күн бұрын
@@ix_risor but it applies burn to every crit attack..... imagine jinx and her passive. heck this item is basically dravens original passive. and that was instantly changed cause of how broken it was
@ix_risor
@ix_risor 28 күн бұрын
@@fozzyalfonso imagine that same jinx with infinity edge instead, and she would be doing more damage. Something that was broken as a champion passive is probably fine as a passive on a 3000 gold item
@hoangdoanh2100
@hoangdoanh2100 29 күн бұрын
I think as long as its crit and apply on-hit effect then it should procs YunTal
@Stachelbeeerchen
@Stachelbeeerchen 29 күн бұрын
That's in deed how it works. Yet Shaco and Akshan should proc it but don't for no reason other than spaghetti.
@jinxclaessen1544
@jinxclaessen1544 29 күн бұрын
wow the item works as inteded amazing
@cornwell4156
@cornwell4156 26 күн бұрын
let's see if the item is good enough to take 4th slot over other crit items now that they removed lethal tempo and crit champs has to buy attack speed items
@XxHumnanxX1
@XxHumnanxX1 29 күн бұрын
what about akshan any it seems to work on him but doesnt stack on e
@metarmored
@metarmored 28 күн бұрын
People don't even remember that this item existed in twisted treeline :c
@ancientflean7594
@ancientflean7594 29 күн бұрын
i thought it was a new cham, i didn't recognize the camp on thumbnail
@klydemeneses5559
@klydemeneses5559 27 күн бұрын
Aphelios' R also applies bleed
@froztygaming4857
@froztygaming4857 9 күн бұрын
Surprised no test with kats ult tbh
@KrnKiiD
@KrnKiiD 23 күн бұрын
What about with Gangplank passive or barrels?
@rodrigoacha
@rodrigoacha 28 күн бұрын
it would work with Udyr's empowered Q?
@user-vn8wl7ch7c
@user-vn8wl7ch7c 27 күн бұрын
does it work on aatrox q crits?
@Ris4RogueYGO
@Ris4RogueYGO 27 күн бұрын
Would this work with rek sai E?
@feline9197
@feline9197 23 күн бұрын
I smell that this item will work well with Katarina 💀
@OtoriDaisuke
@OtoriDaisuke 27 күн бұрын
So bel with yun tal+rageblade will be stupidly broken?
@igorzukow859
@igorzukow859 29 күн бұрын
What with ashe q? And she apply it every time even with 25% crit chances cuz of her passive? To much questions
@Stachelbeeerchen
@Stachelbeeerchen 29 күн бұрын
Nope. Her passive is a separate form of crit. She can regularly crit with no extra dmg but a critical slow which they use for the effect. Also her Q only proce on-hit once.
@AlienSliker
@AlienSliker 28 күн бұрын
So it works just like onhit. But does it mean that belveth E can oneshot just with bork?
@SirCrusher
@SirCrusher 29 күн бұрын
Does this item lock you out of infinity edge?
@Pigraider268
@Pigraider268 27 күн бұрын
Wait so genuinly strong almost balanced item? GJ Riot :D
@TheWasylator
@TheWasylator 29 күн бұрын
Wasn't Draven's original passive a bleed on crit and they changed it cause of how strong it was :thinkingemoji:
@SpielMitMirSession
@SpielMitMirSession 25 күн бұрын
I was curious about Xayah feather hits...
@lokir2809
@lokir2809 29 күн бұрын
People forget (or just dont know) that on-hit abilities dont crit and the fact that ability has crit modifier doesnt mean your ATTACK crits.
@Braxtonkai
@Braxtonkai 25 күн бұрын
aren't hurricane bolts on hit?
@jadenp2996
@jadenp2996 29 күн бұрын
You forgot about dragon form shyvana q on multiple targets
@giatoannguyen8172
@giatoannguyen8172 28 күн бұрын
I was wondering if Rammus is gonna benefits from this update
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