HH Digital Effects Unit Repaired!

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Mend It Mark

Mend It Mark

Жыл бұрын

Mark repairs an HH Electronics Digital Effects Unit, which was designed in 1977, using super rare BBD chips (Reticon SAD1024A / CC100D). Is luck on Mark's side, or is this one for the trash?

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@impetus444
@impetus444 Жыл бұрын
My only complaint about your videos are that there are not thousands of them for me to binge watch!
@Fanan67
@Fanan67 Жыл бұрын
Hi Mark, start to see your videos last week I can't stop. I think it's because you do serious repairs in a very funny way. Keep pushing!
@puciohenzap891
@puciohenzap891 Жыл бұрын
Fully agree!
@Jesselovespinball
@Jesselovespinball Жыл бұрын
He’s amazing ! Love his personality!
@phillcrossland6394
@phillcrossland6394 Жыл бұрын
Hi Again Mark, another excellent video on how to repair electronic equipment, as a veteran Engineer I love your presentation and sharing your methodical fault finding skills on video. Now this module for the 1980's was revolutionary and I did quite a lot of development using the SAD1024 and reversed engineered this module for the requirement of repairs back then, as the circuit diagram you have was not available. There are some scanning/printing omissions on your drawing around the connections in the chain of SAD1024's but for repair purposes i don't suppose it matters. Your presentation has prompted me to dig out my original drawings from the 1980's and prototypes of this module for a further look at. I also have 2 of these modules one in the superb SM200 Mixer Amp you featured and 1 in HH's 16/2 Mixing Desk from the day, the desk one does have a fault which i have not been inclined to fix, however, after watching your repair it gave me a nudge to get on with it, maybe my module will have the same IC fault as your repair. One of the features of this module you did not explore was the use of the red button this allows a form of phasing to occur which if used correctly gave quite a convincing double tracking effect to the vocal. I used this module in a 16/2 mixer in the 80's and as one of your followers correctly said HH Electronic Kit was exceptionally rugged, my HH 2KW rig performed night after night, gig after gig throughout the 1980 without a flicker and i would wager would still out perform many of today's examples. Your follower Wildchurch does bring up a good point regarding the term "Digital" in fact the only true digital IC in the module was the CD4013 however analogue is coming back. A last note from my research back in the day, I added another CD4013 into the clock circuit to divide the clock frequency by 2, this gave the module some incredible long delays and very accurate repeats without suffering too much distortion or clock pulse breakthrough. The SM200 mixer amp you featured was also an under rated performer in the 80's giving a great 150w per channel integrated into a 6 channel mixer, again quite revolutionary at the time. HH Electronics were certainly on top of their game pity they went bust. Keep up the great videos and keep that enthusiast flowing we need more of it today. Best Regards Phill
@danpro2002
@danpro2002 9 ай бұрын
Thanks Mark for the inspiring videos! I have been watching quite a few in the last days; I like the varying camera views, the fast pace, and your good spirit to top it all off. Congratulations for a great combination!
@wildchurch
@wildchurch Жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this one and had to comment. A nostalgic bit of kit for me - used a lot of HH gear back in the 80s - all second or third hand, of course. Two things: first, that mixer is in amazing cosmetic condition. Really nice to behold. I recall HH gear being exceptionally rugged - despite being dropped, thrown around in the back of a transit van, left set up in a field overnight to gather dew, etc., it would just keep working. Second thing, these days we tend to look back at BBDs with analogue fondness, but here it’s proudly labelled ‘Digital’. I guess this is 1970’s digital? Which is my favourite kind. Lol! Oh, third thing - it’s nice to see the UK does still have competence! Keep up the great work!
@jegjessing
@jegjessing Жыл бұрын
I too have become a big fan. It is so amazing what you are able to fix, sometimes it's almost art. And seriously.. I can't stop smiling seeing the videos - have you ever not smiled? It's contagious... 🙂
@tuc-dh4df
@tuc-dh4df 11 ай бұрын
H H, that brings back memory's My brother got a new 100w amp with reverb, broke out of the box!. Great channel Mark.
@D.Hozzie
@D.Hozzie 8 ай бұрын
Mark I hope all is well for you! I am digging back into some orders vids until you have time for some current ones. Thanks and take care.
@paulanderson7796
@paulanderson7796 Ай бұрын
HH has made some good stuff over the years.
@Gannett2011
@Gannett2011 Жыл бұрын
Great video as always. I remember seeing BBD echo chambers and components in the Maplin Catalogue in the late 80s, though they were becoming obsolete even then. Should have picked up a flat of chips back then, made a mint! I have to say your channel is my favourite at the moment. You remind me very much of an old mate of mine who had a workshop like yours, loads of test equipment, drawers of components, and would fix up anything. I only ever had a passing understanding of electronics repair, but it was great to spend the evening with him while he fixed up someone's busted old telly.
@rustythompson8415
@rustythompson8415 Жыл бұрын
Your videos are a treasure. I adore following along with you as you diagnose and repair. Great work sir!
@wolfganglohrie6820
@wolfganglohrie6820 Жыл бұрын
Hi Mark, I have identified your channel just some days ago. I like your detailed serious repairs. Will enjoy your channel a lot.Thanks for your efforts.
@hermesserranoaudio
@hermesserranoaudio 3 ай бұрын
Wow !! Around 1979 I’ve got the 12 channel version of this mixer, and bought also the digital unit (what a luxe those days!!). So useful…. So NOISIE !!!!!! 😂😂😂😂😂
@AllenCavedo
@AllenCavedo Жыл бұрын
Excellent deductive approach to a successful repair.
@MrMegaTubs
@MrMegaTubs Жыл бұрын
Love your videos. Please upload more! Great stuff.
@briangoldberg4439
@briangoldberg4439 Жыл бұрын
Good catch there with the comparator! That's a beautiful old unit!
@boredwithusernames
@boredwithusernames Жыл бұрын
Hi just wanted to say that I really like the way you present these videos and I like your methodical approach to repairing. Please keep these coming, people can learn a lot from your techniques here. 👍
@HeavyMetalTones
@HeavyMetalTones Жыл бұрын
i just found your videos and not only do they itch the part of my brain that loves people who can fix not just throw away but you also my love of ( as a man of a certain age) older stereo equipment a time when thugs where meant to be repaired. Also your enthusiasm and fun doing it. Keep it up mate it keeps us all so entertained
@rodneydelaney9227
@rodneydelaney9227 Жыл бұрын
The way you use the term "straightforward" tickled me. Love it 👌
@EricTViking
@EricTViking Жыл бұрын
Another great video Mark - thanks for sharing. A tip for production - better to talk to the camera lens not the monitor, otherwise it feels like your looking at someone over my shoulder.
@merlin5476
@merlin5476 Жыл бұрын
I have merely a fraction of your intelligence but around 26 yrs ago i was given an old Moog keyboard to repair ( i just loved tinkering & only knew the basics) keyboard had around 5 keys not working so i just assumed the M083 chip ( if i remember correctly) sitting in front of the dead keys was to blame, swapped them around & hey presto. The chip was well out of manufacture... i ended up being given the phone number of Rod Argent who actually had a junkbox full of very useful bits including an M083. Hold your head up Woah, Hold your head up, etc
@donlunn792
@donlunn792 Жыл бұрын
Excellent vid Mark. Wish I had your skills. Best electronics channel on KZfaq.
@xpump876
@xpump876 Жыл бұрын
What a trip down memory lane .. fun to see an early BBD's deconstructed . I guess the method HH used to plug in the standoff pcb's was serviceable, but id have to think this made a lot of units sketchy over time as mixers take a lot of wear and tear transported to/from shows.
@thejoyoffix4720
@thejoyoffix4720 8 ай бұрын
I had one of these reverb units in an HH mixer back in the early eighties. Confused the life out of people when I fed my voce through it over the C.B. radio.
@James_Bowie
@James_Bowie Жыл бұрын
Had to read up on the SAD1024A/CC100D chip. I see it was quite popularly used in guitar stomp boxes back in the day.
@lookoutleo
@lookoutleo Жыл бұрын
Love watching your repair videos, your so positive :)
@shaunmorrissey7313
@shaunmorrissey7313 Жыл бұрын
That was an unusual one, your client got very lucky, roll on the next one.
@tim0steele
@tim0steele Жыл бұрын
Always a good idea to wear a static wrist strap when handling rare static sensitive CMOS chips :)
@dwalshaw
@dwalshaw Жыл бұрын
The best electronic fix it channel on KZfaq, keep up the great work Mark 😊
@user-gu5kk7wr5q
@user-gu5kk7wr5q 10 ай бұрын
Absolutely astounding work there Mark enjoyed every second of the video.
@TheDavidPoole
@TheDavidPoole Жыл бұрын
Just came across your channel. You do great work. Nice to see someone putting the love back into old gear. Subscription no-brainer! 👍
@gdj6298
@gdj6298 Жыл бұрын
Just watched two of your vids today regarding HH - all very familiar! The S-500D (not my band, but mates of mine) that went DC and took out their four Bose cabinets.... The Digital FX module - again, not mine, but the mixer was house gear on many cruise ships at the time - never found one with a working module...to be fair, it was cutting-edge value for money at the time - until the moment that it wasn't. (I later bought a used HH mixer as a stopgap when ours blew up - and it had the FX module. And that one didn't bloody work either.) I love seeing work done with components that are visible to the naked eye !
@passtheparcel2024
@passtheparcel2024 5 ай бұрын
I had an H&H SM200 6 channel stereo mixer amp on a stand with sound effects, like reverb an echo. I used it for my Pearl Electronic kit (Drum X). It was perfect for it. As I had the effects built in, never needed to get a seperate box for it. I also had the boxy H&H monitor combo with a u shaped bar to alter the angle of it.
@Corp0ralPunishment
@Corp0ralPunishment Жыл бұрын
You need to get an IC Extractor! 🥳
@butcharmstrong9645
@butcharmstrong9645 Жыл бұрын
BRO,,I love your channel. you are so much fun to watch and llsten to. You have a great attitude too. You''d be a chum to have a beer or 2 or maybe even too many!
@simonlevett4776
@simonlevett4776 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic stuff, it's a shame he doesn't upload more fascinating videos, such as this.
@TrevorsBench
@TrevorsBench Жыл бұрын
I remember Radio Shack selling these BBD chips. I bought one to toy around with. I think I still have it here somewhere
@Super8Rescue
@Super8Rescue Жыл бұрын
What a fabulous bit of kit
@Oldgamingfart
@Oldgamingfart Жыл бұрын
I recall JVC's first consumer front-loading (and rather advanced) HR-7700 video recorder from the very early eighties, which also featured a BBD. Thus enabling stabilised audio playback in x2 play (i.e. no 'chipmunks!'). The Ferguson Videostar 3V23 clone was more common sight, and/ or a badged rental (Baird, DER, Mulibroadcast, etc), but I digress. I wonder if it used similar chips?
@patprop74
@patprop74 Жыл бұрын
keep posting, I get the feeling you'll gain lots of subscribers, although your channel is more of a niche channel, there are still a lot of us out there interested, I personally would like to see more on your hybrid dead bug/manhattan/ island circuit board style.
@barcooter8248
@barcooter8248 Жыл бұрын
Some of the best Techno of recent years at the end there
@leevonpetrak199
@leevonpetrak199 Жыл бұрын
me and my 3m old son watch you while I feed him :) thanks for the content
@canguler710
@canguler710 2 ай бұрын
Güler yüzlü,işini severek en güzel şekilde yapan değerli adam.
@everTriumph
@everTriumph 11 ай бұрын
Can't say I was ever fond of those sockets. Sometimes the chip left its pins behind when you levered them out. But the old 'Texas' sockets were worse. The 'fingers' that 'pinched' the pins were so weak the contact failed over time. A board full could be a nightmare.
@SwingBandHeaven
@SwingBandHeaven Жыл бұрын
Number 5 is alive - you've obviously seen the film "short circuit" :)
@schummiehugo
@schummiehugo Жыл бұрын
woooow olso a nice fix.. good job happyman ! gr fr holland
@ricfair9919
@ricfair9919 Жыл бұрын
Another great video Mark! I always learn something watching them. Wish I had some of your test gear! Could you post a TV power supply repair, I'm stuck on one that is dead.
@MendItMark
@MendItMark Жыл бұрын
Hi Ric, I don't have any TV's in for repair (I stopped doing them - too many screen rebuilds!). A quick trouble shooting: If the fuse is blown, look for a shorted transistor on the primary (mains) side. If the fuse is not blown, check for shorted diodes on the secondary side. If not, check for faulty capacitors... Have fun!
@MikeGervasi
@MikeGervasi 7 ай бұрын
I've got a stock of LM339 chips. Used all through pinball machines.
@timhull8664
@timhull8664 10 ай бұрын
That test gave your cathode ray scopes a bashing😂
@raceingdemon6464
@raceingdemon6464 Жыл бұрын
Nice Work Mark Regards mike.
@RedHeadGuitar
@RedHeadGuitar Жыл бұрын
There are tools for pulling ICs out of their sockets :)
@cgavin1
@cgavin1 Жыл бұрын
Beautifully engineered! Modular, lovely boards, great solid mechanical switches. Made in England!? :)
@jonbeecroft1102
@jonbeecroft1102 9 ай бұрын
There wasn't much "digital" logic in that box. Love the video though!
@wagsman9999
@wagsman9999 11 ай бұрын
awesome
@S-Theo
@S-Theo Жыл бұрын
This guy is incredible
@spottedtauren
@spottedtauren Жыл бұрын
Johnny 5! Funny to hear a Short Circuit reference.
@ovalwingnut
@ovalwingnut 7 ай бұрын
That repair was music to my ears.. well, almost
@chrissimons9733
@chrissimons9733 9 ай бұрын
The effects sounds like every old sci-fi movie ever made.
@nikolaykamerrer7659
@nikolaykamerrer7659 Жыл бұрын
You are so positive person!! =)
@marioluc1105
@marioluc1105 Жыл бұрын
Very strange that HH called this module "digital effects"... the circuitry is based on purely analog BBD "Bucket Brigade Delay" ICs manufactured by Reticon (SAD1024). As always, your work and skills are GREAT!
@rhkavli
@rhkavli Жыл бұрын
It had a digital clock generator. One have to milk the cow, since digital was a big selling argument at that time.
@marioluc1105
@marioluc1105 Жыл бұрын
@@rhkavli right !
@45150sylvain
@45150sylvain 7 ай бұрын
18:04 This is a sound effect often used in the space : 1999 series. 🤔😜
@ProfSimonHolland
@ProfSimonHolland Жыл бұрын
good good mark ...H/H
@Zomboik
@Zomboik Жыл бұрын
Just discovered your channel, nice work, I'm really enjoying your energy, I have a question, how the hell do you have so many ICs?!
@cptyler150
@cptyler150 Жыл бұрын
Johnny 5 is a neat way to look at it
@zbaby82
@zbaby82 Жыл бұрын
You make really good videos.
@lifeisfuneh
@lifeisfuneh 8 ай бұрын
2:38 Challenge accepted ! 🤣
@waynemasters8673
@waynemasters8673 10 ай бұрын
A 339 betrayal, of all things.😢
@davidblankenship7985
@davidblankenship7985 Жыл бұрын
Coolaudio makes new BBD chips, but nothing that's compatible with the SAD1024A
@sidefish8362
@sidefish8362 Жыл бұрын
I'm very surprised there isn't something that could substitute for the original.
@1ralton1
@1ralton1 Жыл бұрын
But who did HH think they were fooling by calling this a digital effects module when everyone knew that BBD were analogue delay devices? They were so easy to spot because of the amount of background noise they generated.
@sw6188
@sw6188 Жыл бұрын
"Digital" was the buzz-word of the 90s. Simply by adding it to anything electronic you were bound to increase your sales because everyone wanted this "new" "digital" technology. I remember seeing home stereo units with "DIGITAL" emblazoned on them, and there was absolutely nothing digital about them.
@user-ez8hk6pe2d
@user-ez8hk6pe2d Жыл бұрын
Гарна робота, Марк!
@t55a2
@t55a2 Жыл бұрын
Nice unit that
@paulmeynell8866
@paulmeynell8866 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video, what did you use to clean the switch contacts? And how do you manage to get schematics for everything?
@giggling_boatswain
@giggling_boatswain Жыл бұрын
If there are no new, but obsolete parts, they are soldered from old boards. Not a problem at all. Or order a Russian or Chinese equivalent. The manufacturer of the original may no longer produce this chip, but other countries produce its exact analogue under their own name and marking.
@nakfan
@nakfan Жыл бұрын
“No serviceable parts in here” I have never seen any of these before 😇
@meowcula
@meowcula 10 ай бұрын
that was lucky!
@johnwakefield3141
@johnwakefield3141 8 ай бұрын
The guy from genesis returns.
@doublebass5y
@doublebass5y Жыл бұрын
Dont you have chip removers.
@shanenorman7262
@shanenorman7262 Жыл бұрын
I hope you charge appropriately for this painstaking work
@radarmusen
@radarmusen Ай бұрын
Sounds like it could have been used in moon base Alfa
@codebeat4192
@codebeat4192 Жыл бұрын
Very nice repair on very nice equipment! But.... there must be a reason why the chip died. Any thoughts on this
@sebastinanthonyraj6788
@sebastinanthonyraj6788 2 ай бұрын
Sir, kindly advise me for arranging an audio test bench and equipment needed,.
@sucalescudaniel9771
@sucalescudaniel9771 Жыл бұрын
👍
@sigma9102
@sigma9102 6 ай бұрын
Somebody could use a chip puller.
@andrewsawesome
@andrewsawesome Жыл бұрын
Where do you get a bunch of that black foam?
@drummerhammar
@drummerhammar 7 ай бұрын
Hi mark, do you salvage parts from parts whom are unreparable?
@matthewseymour8972
@matthewseymour8972 Жыл бұрын
Actual Startrek noises
@phillcrossland6394
@phillcrossland6394 Жыл бұрын
Just a follow up to my reply below, I have watched your video a couple more times and my comment about your drawing not being clear is wrong, my screen grab from your video caused some resolution error on my part, however, when i looked at the "official" service manual from the HH spares supplier MAJ Electronic it turns out that this also has scanning/printing resolution errors showing the same fine line omissions as the screen grab. Your copy of the circuit is a far superior copy, where did you obtain that from?, As usual keep up the good work,, another very interesting module from HH Electronic in the 80's was the so called Valve Sound Module fitted to the VS Musician Range of amps and combos, again i did a lot of work on these modules and I thought you may do a teardown of this if ever one comes your way. As usual keep up the good work
@MendItMark
@MendItMark Жыл бұрын
I got the schamatics from MAJ... I do think HH schematics are done 'half hearted'... Like an afterthought....
@danp7372
@danp7372 Жыл бұрын
I have one of these modules that doesn't seem to work. I can't find the schematic you show in your very good video. Clock gen is fine, think it something to do with input or out as it overloads with 10mv in. Are you able to let me know where I can download it from? Cheers, Dan
@truthtorpedo99
@truthtorpedo99 Жыл бұрын
Was this used for all the sci-fi audio effects back in the day? Sounds are very familiar
@warphammer
@warphammer Жыл бұрын
The effects aren't unique to this unit. Flanging and other phase tricks in particular are favorites of sound effects. Early on you didn't even need a chip to do it! The bucket brigade chips are a nice neat solid state way of doing things originally done with fancy tape machine tricks...
@motodjp801
@motodjp801 Жыл бұрын
Hi I have a Tandberg 10XD reel to reel with a preamplifier problem Just wondering if you offer repair services
@MendItMark
@MendItMark Жыл бұрын
Yes I do. My website is www.perton-electronics.co.uk
@The_English_Miner
@The_English_Miner Жыл бұрын
Just out of curiosity, Where abouts do you order your electronic components? Im looking for a reputable website in the UK, Something similar to Mouser, But has to be UK based.. I found Digikey website, Looked promising, Stocked pretty much anything i searched, But after registering, i found out its actually USA and deliveries take weeks... I also found Enrgtech, which looks pretty good for stocking most things, But it says on the website "delivery to UK"..... So that makes me think that ITS NOT actually in the UK :( - I find myself needing to order quite often, And cant be dealing with waiting weeks for orders.. Thanks
@MendItMark
@MendItMark Жыл бұрын
I get them from anywhere I can. Preferably UK stock, but some vendors prices are not amusing, and they still take over a week to ship. I try to stick with RS Components, CPC, Farnell, Digikey and Mouser. Sometimes, eBay is the only choice. I think you have to sense check what you are buying. New Old Stock tends to be genuine, but I wouldn’t trust any power transistors from China. I have no idea how it is economical to manufacture a tiny BJT silicon, and bond it in a big TO-3 case etc, because they do not sell these fakes for big money. Honestly, if they are clever enough to make a working silicon die at all? Why not make proper power transistors???
@absurdengineering
@absurdengineering 10 ай бұрын
@@MendItMarkThey probably buy whatever BJT dies they can get their hands on - can be rejects or what have you. I bet the quality of the TO-3 packaging job also would be somewhat lacking. After all, as long as it sells, it's making money. Most people don't bother returning and that's how they make money. Little by little. :(
@CoockieClassiCKeks
@CoockieClassiCKeks Жыл бұрын
Jonny five is alive, watched this movie a few day ago on my vhs recorder
@montygore1200
@montygore1200 9 ай бұрын
Hi Mark. Let me know what that chip number is. I might have them from days gone by. If I do I will contact you and get info where to send them.
@futu1983
@futu1983 Жыл бұрын
A bit noisy in the shop, at times quite hard to hear you.
@MendItMark
@MendItMark Жыл бұрын
Unfortunatly, Bill Gates left a bunch of morons in charge of Windows updates. After some update, I have driver issues on my laptop. Some "service" is stomping on my sound card's I/O, and I get a lot of random noise and volume jumping around during playback! Pfffft. Are you sure it's not my black country accent? Keep watching, I'm still learing to edit....
@futu1983
@futu1983 Жыл бұрын
@@MendItMark Use LTSC version of Windows (2018 still works fine for me), disable all updates. Thank you for your films.
@aliwho
@aliwho Жыл бұрын
So wot was wrong with it
@sw6188
@sw6188 Жыл бұрын
He explained several times what the problem was, including right at the end.
@beernutsonline
@beernutsonline 3 ай бұрын
I'm amazed (or appalled, rather!) that you do not have an IC extractor, Mark! :p
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