Hidden Tang Take-Down-ish Fighter

Hidden Tang Take-Down-ish Fighter | Knife Making

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3 жыл бұрын

Hope you guys love this build video as much as I enjoyed making this knife! While this knife was not truly a takedown knife; it was the first hidden tang knife I've build in the "spirit" of take down knives.
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@RedBeardOps 3 жыл бұрын

Hope yall enjoyed this build! Links to the 1/16'' hardened dowel pins are in the description. 🙌

@hamitup01 3 жыл бұрын

Hey! Thanks for the video. I converted my mill, which is similar to yours, to DRO’s a while back. Fairly simple and only cost me maybe 120.00. I used igauging DRO’s from Amazon. It took me maybe 3 1/2 hours to complete. Best time and money I have ever spent. Message me if you would like some tips or pics of the project. Take care!

@RedBeardOps 3 жыл бұрын

@@hamitup01 Thanks man, good to know you like yours. I've heard many people say that it's the best money the spent on their mill. Cheers!

@rontremblay719 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the video. Your attention to detail is amazing and I hope to learn a great more from you down the road. The liquid you sprayed on your Scotch-Brite belt was that just water? to keep it cool?

@RedBeardOps 3 жыл бұрын

@@rontremblay719 Hey Ron, that was WD40. I feel like it keeps the belt cleaner

@kennycampbelljr5896 3 жыл бұрын

When I first saw it I thought it was a canister damascus blade. That handle is absolutely stunning.

@patrickshaw7983 3 жыл бұрын

A beautiful knife. As a maker myself there are always little things that could be improved upon that anyone else looking at the knife would not notice. We strive for perfection but seldom achieve it 100%. Nevertheless we keep trying. I like your style of narration, you are a natural speaker and your explanations are clear.

@RedBeardOps 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much Patrick! I'm stoked you enjoyed this one!

@russellfaulkner9074 3 жыл бұрын

I don't find myself telling folks they're overly humble, but you sir, fit the bill. That is great work you're doing and your skill and attention to detail are great to watch. Great job and I look forward to the next video.

@RedBeardOps 3 жыл бұрын

THank you very much Russell! Your comment is much appreciated!

@maverick5006 3 жыл бұрын

OMG, your attention to detail is ridiculous!! I mean that in a good way. I'm not a knife smith, but appreciate the art, ingenuity, and talent that goes into this craft!!

@RedBeardOps 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Maverick! I'm stoked that you enjoyed this video!

@robertdodge8587 3 жыл бұрын

That is a knife of true beauty, a superbly crafted item, Exellent!!

@RedBeardOps 3 жыл бұрын

Much appreciated sir! Glad you enjoyed it!

@Joe_Bandit 3 жыл бұрын

I have to say you are making some of the best videos out there, your explanations, techniques, and finished products are totally on point.

@RedBeardOps 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks a bunch Joe!

@Bootes1 2 жыл бұрын

I'm not a knife maker but I know beauty when I see it and Wow what a Beauty you made there. I'm afraid I can only dream. Thank you.

@RedBeardOps 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much!

@ronamedee2475 3 жыл бұрын

You threw around some "Big Hitters" when naming knife smiths but missed Jim Keeton. Nice job an keep 'em coming.

@RedBeardOps 3 жыл бұрын

Lol, thank you sir, glad you enjoyed this one!

@blufordbirdsong1834 3 жыл бұрын

Great video. I've watched so many of your videos. It's really cool to see how far your skills have come since the early videos. Your build process has really come along as you've added equipment and knowledge. I have only made four knives myself, but that's enough to appreciate your journey. Finally, I like how you are giving back to the community with these videos. Keep up the great work man. God bless you.

@RedBeardOps 3 жыл бұрын

Glad you like them! Thank you sir!

@bhein67 3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely enjoyed watching this build. Excellent description of what you did and why you did it. Some real patience with the details! Very nice looking knife! Cheers from Canada

@RedBeardOps 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Cheers from Texas! Hope your weekend is going well.

@Vijay-cg8fm 9 ай бұрын

Wow, this man clearly explains everything, and the handle is soo good.

@RedBeardOps 9 ай бұрын

Thank you!

@waynecurie71 3 жыл бұрын

Love the style of this knife and your tutorial on how you made it is clear and prisice 10/10 chap

@RedBeardOps 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Wayne! Glad you enjoyed it!

@theriversexperience9383 3 жыл бұрын

Man, you absolutely killed it on this build. It turned out fantastic.

@RedBeardOps 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you sir! The forged hidden tang knives take me out of my comfort zone for sure. Take longer and are harder to make... but the feeling of success when they're done is worth it. I have a ton to learn

@MrSoloun 3 жыл бұрын

Great Knife and amazing detailed build, was good to see all the steps and what worked, what didn't and how you overcame things. You should be proud of that finish it looks super tight and clean. I love that stone wash finish on the blade :)

@RedBeardOps 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you ! Really glad you liked it man. I'm pretty proud of how this one turned out for sure. The stone wash on a hidden tang seems a little unique.

@drakos2000 3 жыл бұрын

Crazy fit and finish! Good job sir!

@RedBeardOps 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Petru! Glad you liked this build!

@andrewneilson227 3 жыл бұрын

Bro that's some crazy craftsmanship. Kudos. Really like the way it came out.

@RedBeardOps 3 жыл бұрын

I appreciate that! Cheers Andrew

@sare1052 3 жыл бұрын

Learned a lot watching your videos, thank you very much and keep up the good camera work and the conversation mode you have honed so well! Jim

@RedBeardOps 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome, thank you! Have a great rest of your weekend!

@peterchristensen2528 Жыл бұрын

That is a beautiful take down knife.

@donrsanders4772 3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely beautiful.

@RedBeardOps 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much!

@spurs3483 10 ай бұрын

Beautiful job, brother! I really like this one.👍

@RedBeardOps 10 ай бұрын

Thank you! Cheers!

@markfulmer67 3 жыл бұрын

Wow! Pretty complicated build, turned out great! Very impressive!

@RedBeardOps 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Mark! Glad you enjoyed this one!

@johnnyp628 3 жыл бұрын

It’s a beautiful piece.

@RedBeardOps 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@shawnoubre2171 3 жыл бұрын

Your one hell of a narrator man. Great video and most of all .... one beautiful Knife. I like the way you show theres no room for short cuts and taking your time produces extreme top quality results!!!

@RedBeardOps 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much for your comment Shawn! The narration takes a ton of time... since I'm actually not that great at it! I end up saying the same thing 3-4 times before I like it, lol.

@SchysCraftCo. 3 жыл бұрын

Looking very good. Keep up the great craftsmanship and hard work my friend forge on. Can't wait to see what you decide to forge on next.

@RedBeardOps 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you sir!

@SchysCraftCo. 3 жыл бұрын

@@RedBeardOps ur very welcome sir

@craig2963 2 жыл бұрын

Beautiful final product. I am a new sub, so I am going back through your library. So I am commenting on some old videos, lol.

@RedBeardOps 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome! Thank you!

@gjkymsafishing45 3 жыл бұрын

your knives are awesome, i can just dream to make something this gorgeous. you are phenomenal.

@RedBeardOps 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much sir! Glad you're enjoying the videos. Have a great holiday!

@mitondo6123 3 ай бұрын

Beautiful work!

@RedBeardOps 3 ай бұрын

Thank you! Cheers!

@gurvinderkau1e5w18 3 жыл бұрын

Beautiful knife. Great tutorial. Really like the handle👍👍👍👍

@RedBeardOps 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Glad you liked it!

@kasiakowalska500 3 жыл бұрын

It is a beautiful job too!

@RedBeardOps 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@TheFlyingKiwiNZ 3 жыл бұрын

Love the look of this knife!

@RedBeardOps 3 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it!

@carlosargueta3005 3 жыл бұрын

That’s some nice work man. I enjoy your work and your voice over style Videos.

@RedBeardOps 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Carlos! Glad you like em

@vathouisk 3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely gorgeous

@RedBeardOps 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you sir! Have a great weekend!

@stanstanley8400 3 жыл бұрын

Great work mate! Well done.

@RedBeardOps 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Cheers!

@peterkanzler7397 3 жыл бұрын

I like your addicton to precision. Very nice knife.

@RedBeardOps 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it.

@klimeksam 3 жыл бұрын

Amazing work as always!

@RedBeardOps 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you sir! Have a great weekend!

@polaris8126 2 жыл бұрын

WOW! Beautiful work! 😉

@RedBeardOps 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Cheers!

@clintonshank5137 3 жыл бұрын

Loving the channel, I'm a new knife maker and learn allot from you. Thanks

@RedBeardOps 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you sir! Really happy the videos are helping out!

@sudo_nym 3 жыл бұрын

This is yet more evidence, if it were needed, that the more effort you put in to your project, the better the outcome will be! Awesome job, James. Picking up new skills AND making a kick-ass knife - can't fault that! 🇬🇧🤜⚡️🤛🇺🇸

@RedBeardOps 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much sir! Glad you enjoyed this one.

@thefamily_ak1863 3 жыл бұрын

the one weve been waiting on , ❤❤❤

@RedBeardOps 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Hope you like this one!

@RyanJohnson-yv7te 3 жыл бұрын

Just beautiful!

@RedBeardOps 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Cheers!

@indiedavecomix3882 3 жыл бұрын

That is a gorgeous piece!

@RedBeardOps 3 жыл бұрын

Much appreciated!

@deansmallwood4652 3 жыл бұрын

Exceptional work there chap!!

@RedBeardOps 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Cheers!

@kevincolwell9575 2 жыл бұрын

I really like that jig! The straightening jig. Good work. thanks for teaching us about the scotchbrite surface conditioning stuff, also. I love the creativity on the tumbler. I only hand sand, but maybe some day I can find something different when I make using knives for friends and family. You are getting very good. congrats.

@RedBeardOps 2 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful! Cheers Kevin!

@Lambman001 3 жыл бұрын

Give the man a BELLS. beautiful knife!!!

@RedBeardOps 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you sir!

@williambundick349 3 жыл бұрын

Bro I always in joy and learn something from every video keep on making

@RedBeardOps 3 жыл бұрын

Heck yeah thanks William!

@DB-qt1kh 3 жыл бұрын

Fantastic knife. Thanks for sharing.

@RedBeardOps 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you sir! Glad you liked this one.

@nojustno1216 Жыл бұрын

Very beautiful knife. Incredible talent!😊👍

@RedBeardOps Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@MrMchussey 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome as always man!!

@RedBeardOps 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@mute4471 3 жыл бұрын

Nice

@RedBeardOps 3 жыл бұрын

THanks!

@Gabriel_Uramoto 3 жыл бұрын

Very good material and knife. Thanks for share it.

@RedBeardOps 3 жыл бұрын

Cheers sir! Thanks for watching!

@nightwalker2830 3 жыл бұрын

That knife looks amazing

@RedBeardOps 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Glad you like it!

@nightwalker2830 3 жыл бұрын

@@RedBeardOps hell I loved it so beautiful one of the nicest knife i seen

@terryzimmer5151 3 жыл бұрын

I think that’s really a sweet looking now did a good job

@RedBeardOps 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Terry! Much appreciated!

@RyanKirk99 3 жыл бұрын

Love these videos - thanks man!

@RedBeardOps 3 жыл бұрын

Glad you like them!

@prywatnepriv5866 2 жыл бұрын

Beautiful knife !!!!!!!!!!!!

@RedBeardOps 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@craig2963 2 жыл бұрын

I have noticed that your mill could use a set of stops for the table. Here is a new project for you when you get some free time, you can make a nice set of stops for the mill.

@DESERTTACTICAL1776 3 жыл бұрын

Heck yeah, new video!

@RedBeardOps 3 жыл бұрын

Hope you enjoy this one Jeremy!

@adrianhernandez974 3 жыл бұрын

Hola amigo, cada vez está más sorprendente tu trabajo, eres un artista. Felicidades !!! Un abrazo desde Ecatepec, México 🇲🇽

@RedBeardOps 3 жыл бұрын

¡Muchas gracias! ¡Salud desde Texas!

@shanetranchell5247 3 жыл бұрын

Jim, I just wanted to say that I came by your videos by chance. I was never into knives until I watched one of your videos. Now I'm hooked. Im even considering buying one from you if possible. I just need to factor in the cost including shipping. Great work man. Plesse keep it coming.

@RedBeardOps 3 жыл бұрын

Welcome aboard! Glad you're enjoying them, sir! I really don't sell many now days since my volume is so low. I'm also not taking any custom orders due to the commitment. But when I do have one available for sale I post it up on Instagram. Cheers man, have a great weekend!

@dalibortrkulja9582 3 жыл бұрын

Great job, cheers from Croatia

@RedBeardOps 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much!

@mariomagana130 2 жыл бұрын

Congratulations, great job...

@RedBeardOps 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Cheers!

@oathman1 2 жыл бұрын

What a scientific knowledge you put on to this knife mate Love it super like 👍

@RedBeardOps 2 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it!

@pablomyerspy 2 жыл бұрын

I love your job. And this is a proof that even with machines the result isnt 100% perfect. But beautifull knife 🤩😍

@RedBeardOps 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Pablo

@jacobbrooks1574 Жыл бұрын

Great build your very informative great tips to

@RedBeardOps Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

@christiaanjordaan8428 3 жыл бұрын

Beautiful

@RedBeardOps 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Cheers!

@jaimeherrera5892 3 жыл бұрын

Wow man, hermoso trabajo, saludos de Chile

@RedBeardOps 3 жыл бұрын

¡Muchas gracias!

@mattgreef1676 3 жыл бұрын

Beautiful mate im just starting my first hidden tang. As always learned alot

@RedBeardOps 3 жыл бұрын

Good luck! Glad you liked it!

@JK80s 3 жыл бұрын

Super clean Nice blade

@RedBeardOps 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks 👍

@rickhall5399 3 жыл бұрын

All that being said excellent job

@RedBeardOps 3 жыл бұрын

Appreciated!

@Stefanhallusa 3 жыл бұрын

Stunning man🤘

@RedBeardOps 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks dude! Much appreciated!

@workshopredraven 2 жыл бұрын

У Вас очень ответственный подход к работе! Отличный нож получился!!!

@RedBeardOps 2 жыл бұрын

Большое спасибо! Ваше здоровье

@Denis_Smolov 3 жыл бұрын

Very beautiful!

@RedBeardOps 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Cheers!

@KarlBAndersen 3 жыл бұрын

Nice job on the guard shoulders. It's all about repeatability and using whatever tools you need to suit your building style.

@RedBeardOps 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you sir! And thanks for replying to my DMs on Instagram. Along with your videos on youtube they really helped my process. Cheers sir!

@KarlBAndersen 3 жыл бұрын

I also trust the dial indicator more than I do a DRO. It's just me.

@KarlBAndersen 3 жыл бұрын

And thanks for giving credit where credit is due. There's not enough of that in the knife world.

@RedBeardOps 3 жыл бұрын

@@KarlBAndersen I do my best to! I learn so much from you guys! Thanks for all you put out there.

@d.comeaucustomknives2677 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent presentation. Next stop...folders.

@RedBeardOps 3 жыл бұрын

Lol! no joke man. Thanks for your comment!

@Waskul72 3 жыл бұрын

Really nice video, I also recently made my first hidden tang knife using a different method but I gotta say hidden tang knives are so much more work but once done correctly the work is worth it. I think the more you make hidden tang knives it will get easier, thanks.

@RedBeardOps 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks John, I agree!

@NRiggiKnives 3 жыл бұрын

Great looking knife James- you certainly do get your moneys worth from the 45 degree jig and your 123 blocks!

@RedBeardOps 3 жыл бұрын

Lol, for sure! Cheers Nick! Thanks for stopping by

@valentinigarageworks 3 жыл бұрын

NICE JOB!

@RedBeardOps 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Much appreciated!

@JesusLopez-fc7bd Жыл бұрын

Good job Big Red.!!

@RedBeardOps Жыл бұрын

Cheers! Thanks

@JesusLopez-fc7bd Жыл бұрын

Where can I get one like that??

@philochristos 3 жыл бұрын

That turned out really nice. Kyle Royer inspired me to make a through tang knife, too.

@RedBeardOps 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Sam, he is a ledged!

@XBullitt16X 3 жыл бұрын

@@RedBeardOps Kyle is amazing, makes the prettiest knives and swords I have ever seen and has a fantastic work ethic.

@FredrikSpare 3 жыл бұрын

Super sweet. You really stepped it up with this build! One method I would use since you seem pretty handy with the mill, is to mill down some shoulders on the tang to make the fit-up with the guard even smoother and easier.

@RedBeardOps 3 жыл бұрын

I like it! Cheers sir!

@ClenioBuilder 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing Sir.

@RedBeardOps 3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it, as always!

@andrewroberts707 3 жыл бұрын

Very neat!

@RedBeardOps 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Cheers!

@skipwatson5258 3 жыл бұрын

Man I always look forward to your videos.

@RedBeardOps 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you sir! Glad you're enjoying them! Have a great weekend!

@skipwatson5258 3 жыл бұрын

@@RedBeardOps home recovering from a heart procedure and can't get into my own shop for awhile. So I enjoy watching for relaxation.

@RedBeardOps 3 жыл бұрын

@@skipwatson5258 Excellent sir! Get well soon!

@wintercustomknives13 3 жыл бұрын

man that came out sweet

@RedBeardOps 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Glad you enjoyed the video!

@alexanderkalandarishvili4547 3 жыл бұрын

love your content man keep it up

@RedBeardOps 3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoy it!

@alexanderkalandarishvili4547 3 жыл бұрын

@@RedBeardOps please make a fun video where you make a knofe with the material you find in the streets or maybe backyard or abandoned train station or whatever i love your vids your content is amazing and it motivates very well ❤️❤️❤️😻😻😻 never stop makin videos

@alexanderkalandarishvili4547 3 жыл бұрын

I wish i had sruff to make my own knife . Like from my design because i live illustrating and drawing and designing sruff 🥺❤️❤️❤️😻

@georgeskandalaros8661 3 жыл бұрын

Nice. keep on.

@RedBeardOps 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you, I will! Cheers man

@ahmetvarlk1114 3 жыл бұрын

Great MASTER....

@RedBeardOps 3 жыл бұрын

Thankss!

@MrMarsBlades 3 жыл бұрын

Wow, nice work man, I must look into getting one of those mini mills, cheers

@RedBeardOps 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you sir! It is handy for sure. If you're going to be buying one like mine, make sure to get the little machine shop version of the machine...

@MrMarsBlades 3 жыл бұрын

@@RedBeardOps cool, thanks for the tip

@franotoole2702 3 жыл бұрын

Turned out very nice m8!! Hidden tangs take alot of work to get right, ironic tho considering they are an easy knife to build!

@RedBeardOps 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you sir! For sure!

@glenpaul3606 Жыл бұрын

Beautiful bevel grinds ! Someday I hope to be able to do that , although that may not be possible with a 4x36 belt sander. Having the right tools helps no doubt.

@RedBeardOps Жыл бұрын

The right tools do help! And practice... I still mess up on them from time to time. The variable speed really helps.

@glenpaul3606 Жыл бұрын

@@RedBeardOps Yes they do. I like your 2x72 and surfacing attachment. You've gotten really good...your knives are awesome.

@chrisroosendaal4169 3 жыл бұрын

Those shoulders looked awesome and solid, worth the effort! And so did the ones one the knife

@RedBeardOps 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Chris! I'm stoked with how this one turned out!

@jclardy3710 3 жыл бұрын

Very nice

@RedBeardOps 3 жыл бұрын

Cheers sir! Thanks for watching!

@buddyhutchins3782 3 жыл бұрын

Almost a perfect Nomad style which I consider to be the very best all around for bushcraft ..... Well done, a beautiful knife. Saludos, Anaco, Anz.

@RedBeardOps 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you greatly Buddy!

@buddyhutchins3782 3 жыл бұрын

@@RedBeardOps Keep up the good work.....I've watched several of your videos and all are very professional and educational.

@RedBeardOps 3 жыл бұрын

@@buddyhutchins3782 Thank you!

@rickhall1381 2 жыл бұрын

I have a couple tips for you , number one , make your guard a little bit thinner they look more pleasing to the eye around 150 Thousands on guards . When slotting your spacers to go on the tang make them tight Press fit like the guard that way they don’t move around and would eliminate the use of pins from the spacer to the guard, so when you pin your handle to it it’s always in the same spot no movement will help you a lot. On the pommel Take a punch and peen around where the pommel nut meets the pommel Been grind it off those seams will disappear. When grinding your handle to your spacer put one wrap of gorilla tape Around your spacer then grind the handle Until you just dust the tape all the way around that will give you your perfect museum fit , then just round over slightly with sandpaper. That’s all I have for now you’re doing a great job keep up the Chase for perfection It’s never ending.

@RedBeardOps 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the tips Rick! The journey continues

@danielivanov3463 3 жыл бұрын

Exellent congratulations

@RedBeardOps 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@nickg5473 3 жыл бұрын

Love the mini mill action alot people own them but there isnt many videos on them

@RedBeardOps 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Nick, man... the thing is handy!

@evloftis4143 3 жыл бұрын

nice job bud

@RedBeardOps 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks man!

@carycleland9506 3 жыл бұрын

Great job. I love how you find ways to use your other tools to help you along the way. Are you still happy with your mini mill?

@RedBeardOps 3 жыл бұрын

Hey Cary, I am!

@matthewlynne6570 3 жыл бұрын

You’re coming along! Keep at it. This is how I build all my knives whether they’re takedowns or epoxied. Good video

@RedBeardOps 3 жыл бұрын

Heck yeah, thanks Matthew. I really enjoyed this build

@jeenumahabhoj3232 3 жыл бұрын

Nice kinef 👍👍👍⚘

@RedBeardOps 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@TyrellKnifeworks 3 жыл бұрын

It turned out great! Love that handle wood! Perhaps another takedown in the future... hmmmm. 🤔😜

@TyrellKnifeworks 3 жыл бұрын

Oh... and definitely get a DRO! I got when installed when I bought my mill and I'm not sure what I'd do without it!

@TyrellKnifeworks 3 жыл бұрын

On the Bowie... that is a type of fighter. Bowie classic design is (typically) 7"+ blade and has a guard and clip point, sometimes with a false edge. I think this is close to a bowie but isn't that long.

@RedBeardOps 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you sir! I foresee a take down in my future. This one was the training wheels version (lol)! I can imagine the DRO is a game changer for sure... It's high on my wish list. Thanks for the info on the bowie vs fighter! Cheers sir!