Thank you so much for making these videos. I know it must have been really difficult to sit through those "reviews", but. Thank you so much. I thought for the longest time I was being dumb for loving this show while growing up.

Why do they call it oven when you of in the cold food of out hot eat the food

thanks for putting the effort into this, was really enjoyable to watch

This is Amazing!! You deserve way more views!!

As someone who *did* get to experience Steven Universe proper when it first came out, but never got to see all the episodes because of his Spectrum TV subscription getting cancelled by the time season 5 was getting started, I actually forgot that season 1 ends with Steven getting back his right to watch TV. Like, we had a 3-part episode to cap off the main plot of the season and Rebecca Sugar and Ian James-Quarterly gave us 2 normal episodes end the season proper. Like, I have to wonder if that was Rebecca Sugar and Ian James-Quartey's idea a Warner Bros.' mandate to maintain the episode count, because either way it's one of the funniest decisions in a TV show I've ever seen.

Dang, I never even thought of that.

That was one of the most interesting parts of her character: Seeing the reverse development. Unfortunately, most people (and I sometimes feel even the writers) didn't have that kind of object permanence back when season 5 and Future came out. So Rose became the ultimate evil while the other diamonds got away with a gentle scolding.

@@frauleinzuckerguss1906 i feel like the only reason the other diamonds get away with a gentle scolding, at least from everyone except Steven, is because they are literally like gods and can't really be punished in any real way.

​​@@singingice Yeah, that's exactly it. And it makes me sad that people dont realise it. The CG dont trust the diamonds, Steven is still actively avoiding them and uncomfortable. They're not friends, Steven is 'blood' related to them at best. However, they're space dictators far more powerful than Steven and the CG. So if they stop their reign willingly, you go along with it. The only reason steven has any power in this situation is the familial issues.

@@singingice yeah like, they have literally tried fighting the diamonds before, and the most they were able to do was move blue diamond like, 2 feet away

I hadn't considered that before but it's a great point. I'm happy to see people discussing the show years after it ended. It still feels fresh in my mind somehow.

I hadn't 100% understood that beyond "remaining homeworld prejudice" It also really adds to the queer interpretation of those episodes since much like fusion for gems womenhood is something a lot of transphobes try to limit it to only cis women while calling trans women inappropriate

ooooooooooooooooooo this is cannon to me now

It also serves as further proof that Rose and Greg's love was indeed valid and natural. Pearl attempted to invalidate their relationship by dangling fusion over Greg's head and in the way so far still thought it to be a half-valid argument as we know that Pearl often grasps at straws when her beliefs are challenged. So not only did Garnet say "Yes, they did fuse" back when they saw Greg attempting to do so with Rose, but NOW Steven blatantly shattered the last of her argument by physically performing the feet. Pearl is forced to confront the fact that Greg and Rose's feelings toward each other were, in fact, just as strong if not stronger than Pearl's feelings about Rose, so no wonder it hurts like hell even if she doesn't consciously realise the reason. Funny how I rewatched that scene many times over the years and only just now do I pick up on this.

That is how I have always interpreted her reaction too.

It's a big issue even from some creators that feign left wing aesthetics

​@@HidinginPrivatethat's probably why i rarely watch reviews on recent media, they're always felt..odd with their arguments when it's about social commentary, which it only attracts bigots

Yes, exactly this! Is like they heard "the left really doesn't want you to mess with kids" so suddenly is open season to accuse the creators of having some sort of p3dophilic agenda indiscriminately and overanalyze every detail as this confirming it and smugly folding their arms to also claim "wow, and you say Rebecca Sugar is nonbinary?? Doesn't that make the LGBTQ community look really bad???". They heard "The left wants you to respect women" and since all the characters are fem adjacent then they'll cherry pick any flaw on their characters as the creators being also secret misogynist and point out oh, how ironic it is from a "progressive" show full of so called "queer" people to portray women as anything else but perfect flawless beings (when we know that if they were portrayed as perfect they would also take issue with it and call all of them unrealistic Mary Sues or something...) In a weird attempt to go "We're not so different, you and I..." But with politics. Is like they take any concept that's simple and easy to understand and twist it to their most shallow literal and rigid interpretation and run with it blaming the creators for not sticking to their own fun house type interpretation of what they (in their bigoted eyes) understand of the word "progressive"...

They often try to find flaws so they can say "Ha! This progressive media is actually racist/bigoted" so they can "beat them at their own game" and act like they have the moral superiority when they don't actually care about what they claim to defend.

Could you give a timestamp to when they say this?

And yet it may be taken down for reasons

That part always gets me too. Being a bastard in a heavily Christian family has made me share the sentiment over the years.

Michaela’s delivery of that line is so damn good

It's fun

The Steven Universe libel lawsuit

@@HidinginPrivateit’s fun to watch!

@@HidinginPrivate fun *and* cathartic!

Yeah. I'm glad the show takes some time to heal regardless of what those online "critics" said otherwise.

I agree. Peedee is high-key chill

I also agree! Peedee didn't hardly get any screen time which was a shame. Ronaldo had a *sliver* of a chance in Horror Club with his complicated relationship with Lars. Too bad that was the first and last time we saw of it! After that he just became the strawman character and the joke character,I think he had potential.But they went about dealing with him in all the wrong ways. Like he could've started off as the know-it-all- conspiracy theorist that has a poor social life, sort of lacking empathy and learned to be better. Like Lars and Sadie, but nope.

Yeah when I watched this show as a kid I liked peedee, hes a great character and when I re-watched it it was a damn shame he didn't do much Hes a pretty cool analogy for rose but I still wish he did more 😭

Yeah I wish they showed more of peedee

​@@cyruscrompton8221 wait how is Peedee an analogy for Rose???

She would def be the best OSU player, but without Ruby's personality she probably wouldn't find natural interest. They bring out the best in each9ther

It's really funny to think that in future Steven was really careful over what games to introduce to garnet/sapphire/ruby because if they hyperfixated too much no one would see them for weeks

Thank god we have garnet, ruby would spend all their money on gatcha games

Au where Garnet becomes the best Osu player of all time to fill all the free time she has after Steven moved out

That's what I assumed from the get go Especially with her third eye the way ut was showed while she was playing

That's a good observation. I agree

Good observation

Also, the thing is, Steven develops throughout the whole series. He grows more mature while still retaining his positivity and empathy. He isn't just that sorta cringe kid the whole time.

I'm the exact opposite. I refused to watch the show when I was a kid since I assumed based on the animation style that it would be this annoying and childish show with no appeal for anyone who isn't really little and I only watched it this year for the first time. I'm a huge fan now and I'd love to talk about it. The thing that stood out the most about the show is that for something that has this much of a cutesy animation style, it has some really dark and disturbing themes that do not seem childish at all if you really think about them

Me too, the show was probably the main reason i got into art and animation, so seeing so many videos just dunking on it really hurt where it stings :(

​@@thevarietychannelofyoutube4769What you described isn't being the "exact opposite"

We should all start a Steven Universe discussion group (I just finished the show and I’m obsessed)

@@lucidmoth1023 Yeah, I felt the same way when I finished the show last year. I refused to watch it as a kid because the art style made me think I would hate it if I watched it but I watched it for the first time and loved it.

It needs the slander ngl

​@@thomaskramer3470 Nothing deserves to be lied about.

@@thomaskramer3470 it got and it was basically dramatized for YEARS

@@thomaskramer3470 It got more than enough slander already, it's about time the show got more praise.

@@thomaskramer3470 it got slandered so bad that people just started lying about it, its flawed but its not what people have been saying it is

I think that makes sense as an interpretation, if that was the intent though I wish they would have made it more clear.

​@@HidinginPrivate I honestly always interpreted it as homesickness over all else. I honestly adore Space Race because it's one of the first episodes that gets into the side of pearl that isn't her being obsessed with rose specifically, and more her desperate longing for the life she left behind in general. She left everything behind to be on earth with rose, but rose left her behind. Now she was stuck, she could never go back, not even to reminisce on old times. A lot of her memories of rose/pink were made on homeworld/in space, and she missed not only rose but the past in general and homeworld was a reminder of that past she longed for. In Space Race, her whole bit is that the minute space travel gets brought up, it doesn't even have to be to homeworld, she just misses space and wants to share her passion with someone. She says that she'll "fly steven out to the nearest solar system" but she never actually intended on going to homeworld. She just despirately wanted a taste of somewhere other than earth, and got hyperfixated on the idea of space travel when she realized she could actually accomplish such a feat, and despirately wanted to share her past and experiences with steven. Idk, I never found this episode out of character, I even think it's one of my favorites of the whole season. And maybe that's just cause I'm the kind of person who easily gets swept up in my own little world/in my excitement in a similar sort of way. She wasn't willfully ignoring greg or trying to be petty, really, she was just so fixated on the thought of showing steven space that she couldn't think of anything else or the thought that perhaps this wouldn't work out perfectly like she thought it would. And the ending of the episode with steven talking pearl down from this somewhat hyped up delusion always gets me in the feels, and then the two of them floating back down to earth with pearl settling back into the reality of the situation and remembering what she *does* have on earth with steven and the gems; what she has in the present day. It's a step towards her eventually coming to terms with the past and looking away from it as she starts to live for the here and now. it's honestly quite a beautiful episode, and I wanted to shed some light on that. (sorry for the long comment from the aspiring video essayist; I respect the hell out of what you're doing w/ these vids 👍)

Looking back, I feel like Pearl only really became "free" the moment she stopped seeing Steven as Rose, up until then she was still serving her purpose and acting the part of a free gem. It might have been mostly subconscious and not Rose's intention, but she still never got to think completely for herself until after Rose died, so in a sense she's had less time to develop than Amethyst. Add in to that all the complicated feelings of abandonment and loss, and its no wonder she had an episode.

​@@SophieSquid thats a wonderful comment, thanks for sharing your perspective, it really makes me appreciate more the show, the character and the episode, very well written and very well thought out 🥰👏

And see, the worst part is, Rebecca Sugar themself is the definitive reason for this. I know this because I can tell, they are secretly a birds aren't real activist, and this is blatant propaganda. I personally won't stand for it, but please reply (maybe leave multiple replies) if you disagree or have more to add to my points.

As a bird community advocate, thank you for finally bringing awareness to this issue.

This comment is incredible!

I do think it's kind of weird that when Steven isn't fused, he's the only navel gem who can have his gem covered up by his outfit despite the flashback with him as a baby implying that its really uncomfortable to cover up your gem but when he is fused, that's no longer the case. The way gem outfits work is really weird and confusing

I'll try my best!

Why must you make me cry

It's 100% foreshadowing, not only for Garnet's fusion, but arguably for the death and ressurection of Lars. It also gives the audience information in relation to the pink dimond/Rose mystery.

I feel the same way. I joined the fandom in season three, and since then my identity has completely changed to be farther and farther from the norm as I discover myself. This show and its message is really important to me, and having the general consensus be that it's only mediocre at best and problematic at worst, really made me question my own judgment. Watching Hiding dismantle every argument against the show and show that no actually, season one is not filler at all - it's been really validating.

@azureblooet5053 are you still alive…?

Same unfortunately...

Onion Gang was squad goals imo 💯

It's so wholesome and fun tho

I’ve heard an interesting defense of it in the past, but I unfortunately don’t remember anything about said defense.

That’s okay! Not many people do. Personally it’s one of my favorite episodes! But that’s because I’m someone who enjoys filler and looking into the lives of the characters, but I know not everyone is like that and onion gang unfortunately gets a lot of hate because it’s filler, and that’s perfectly okay! Not every episode is gonna be liked and that’s okay too. My least favorite episode is the uncle grandpa one- but I think everyone hates that episode especially because they put important plot details in it near the end :/

It would have been cool to get more background into these sort of foot soldier like gems

I think you're probably right. Thank you for this comment.

I think Rebecca sugar said that she found out it was toxic some time after making the character, either way perfect symbolism

@@shadypixel4478 It really is. This show really is so much more clever than many give it credit for.

I don't know if it goes against Future or not but I feel like a (HBO) Max sequel would be interesting. I was already feeling that way a bit with the Adventure Time specials and last season of Samurai Jack, but Fiona and Cake really made me hopeful. I feel like a reboot would be resetting progress, while a sequel would be able to continue to theme of change and show how Steven is adapting to the world around him. Idk just a thought.

I don't think they realized their error. From what I've read in interviews, executives thought a post-series movie would be popular. Then a post movie mini-series. They didn't think about wrapping things up, the terrible release schedule, or anything story related. They just wanted to milk the series while it was popular.

I was so happy when they ate Pizza Steve. It was symbolic.

Not only that! But the fact Uncle Grandpa hints at Rose being Pink via the throwaway line of Steven's gem cut is crazy awesome! So much foreshadowing in such a funny crossover episode.

@@4zumarill from what i've heard, it was pure coincidence and the writers did not think that much through. uncle grandpa has more knowledge than people writing lines for him.

@@justdenys1421 "Character is accidentally more intelligent/insightful than their writers intended" is not something I ever thought I would attribute with Uncle Grandpa.

I heavily agree with this. Had some of the best emotional moments here, too! Season 2 doesn't slack off either!! Full Disclosure and We Need To Talk are actually in my Top 3 favorites.

I think you're spot on, insofar a Pearl's mindset goes. Concerning space travel in this series, it's just a mess and makes little to no sense. You can tell the priorities where on emotional resonance of any given plot line and things just kind of moved around that as needed. Same thing, in fact, with Earth history as the level of disruption possed gems was not really considered fully either.

actually, you’re genuinely right. it is ALWAYS queer focused shows getting an extreme amount of criticism. It’s something I’ve noticed and is heavily offputting. Southpark is right there and everyone is okay with it? Yet, TOH, HB, SU are bad because.. queer and dark themes??

I hate that people just shit and criticize anything that have anything remotely queer ,like ppl want good queer stories ,but they do not want it to be queer?? Ppl shit on adventures time final because it has a gay kiss☠️☠️☠️

@@meh4294 at, su, hh, hb, toh. all perfectly good shows with normal mistakes. yet they get hate trained… wonder why

@@palemeadows don't forget the legend of korra

​@@palemeadowsbecause it's shoehorned in there. next!

I’ve always thought of her as asian too! Mostly because of her VA but those are all great points

That’s valid, but to mostly list regressive stereotypes as a reason for her coding is kinda…

Agreed! I say embrace the flaws. Flaws are a necessary part of groundbreaking art. I'm a Trekkie, and I think most Trekkies agree that Star Trek is extremely flawed and every series has garbage episodes. Hell, even the most acclaimed show yet of the 21st century, Breaking Bad, has flaws. We don't have to justify liking something with flaws!

And there's people with the audacity of saying the representation is """bad""", like, did we watched the same show?

​@@nicoleflores2054Yeah, I've read dozens of KZfaq comments from LGBT people saying that the show helped them realize their identities and helped them feel confident in who they are when they were younger. The representation seemed to resonate with people really well.

​@@thevarietychannelofyoutube4769right? SU personally introduced more about the LGBTQIA+ community than i've ever knew before and in such a normalizing way as well

@@nicoleflores2054 Yeah, the show really does a good job at actually being empowering to LGBT people in a meaningful way. Rebecca Sugar got into a lot of conflicts with the people who work at Cartoon Network over it

​@@nicoleflores2054I think that's because some people want LGBT stories to be sterilized so they can go to straight people and say look, we're just like you. Instead of showing the nuances of being LGBT that straight people might see as bad.

It was intentional lol

I agree with you, season 1 remains one of my favourites of the show due to the wonder and the mystery it still gives me when i wacth. I also (unpopular opinion) really like early steven's personality, how goofy innocent and playful he is, and it makes his growth ten times better

@@simonebressanin2012 I like cute steven too, and I don't think it's an unpopular opinion. I like how he was... underestimated, but still prone to make mistakes.

Also, Lily mentioned at the end that she would love to do a podcast with someone who genuinely loved Steven Universe and could defend it. I was thinking you would give the show a great defense. But I also totally understand if you didn't want to be on a podcast with her. Just wanted to put this out there if you were interested because I would *love* to hear a debate between the two of you

Sure thing! She sh*t talked my defense of video without even apparently watching it and she only approves comments that agree with her, as well as spreading that I misgendered her (which anyone can prove for themselves isn't true) so honestly I don't think she would want to talk. If she had someone on who liked the show it would almost certainly be someone who wouldn't challenge her or would be very agreeable to all her bad criticisms.

@@creditsong7369 With everything I know about Lily, I really don’t see a conversation between her and *anyone* trying to defend Steven Universe being civil at all.

@@missminglesYeah, it's a terrible idea. Especially since she implied people who like SU can't defend it coherently. HiP is better off debating a brick wall.

ah yes, lily orchard's "Doubling Down: The Video"

It sure has taken a lot of time! Lol but it's been enjoyable and my interaction with SU fans so far has been really pleasant

@@HidinginPrivate There’s another false perception about this show regarding its fanbase specifically. Due to terrible actions made by a small group of people years ago, the entire fandom, made up of millions of people, has been generalized as one of the most toxic fanbases out there, when in actuality most SU fans are really chill and just happy to see more people appreciate a show they love.

​​@@Mr.DelicateTouchI will have to say I disagree with the sentiment that there aren't toxic fans, since unfortunately there are still some pretty toxic and nasty people in the fanbase. Though it does depend on what platform and which space within the fandom you find yourself in. I've unfortunately gotten a lot of nasty encounters in mainly the AU side of the fandom, such as death threats, harassment, stalking and seeing others bully each other, lashing out on each other and this all happened in these recent years way after the show had already ended. And these aren't the ones who critique the show, they love the show but harass and quite literally lash out others over the most minor stuff (such as others showing off their OCs or for other people simply drawing Connie and Steven together, I've even gotten lashed out at for not leaving a comment on every single artwork and that's not even a single person but several unconnected people behaving like that). Of course, this again is dependent on which space in the fandom you happen to find yourself in. I believe the more casual part of the fandom is quite nice actually! It's just sad that I do think the casual part of it did get discouraged by all the SU negativity, so having these recent positive and defence videos of SU helps creating spaces where people who love the show can freely discuss and engage with it. I think the "normal" and casual part of the fandom had just been kind of becoming a bit more inactive which makes sense that the show is over and that people tend to focus on other interest, plus the negativity leading to less open spaces to find the casual fandom. Interestingly enough, I do find the SU fandom on youtube to be the nicer ones (given that you of course don't go to the critics videos but rather works created by fans who love the show), and I see a lot of creative work done for SU here! Also the fanfiction crowd also seems like a nice place too. Also for those curious where the negative spaces I've personally experienced the SU fandom on, it's mainly on tumblr and specifically the AU side of it. It's kind of a thing where it seems nice and innocent on surface, but then when getting to know these people and interacting with them, they're surprisingly quite toxic. I guess it can draw parallel to Undertale's AU stuff where it's simply a symptom of being too deep in and that can possibly attract a certain extreme crowd? Unfortunately these experiences were quite harsh for me that it did made me afraid to be in the SU fandom and so much I've even needed therapy for it. And that's just a shame because I do love the show a lot and I do desire to have a space where I can talk about the show without having to feel that discomfort, because of having plenty even recent encounters with toxic fans who do love the show but are mean to each other. Sorry for the wall of text here. I just kind of wanted to share my experiences and maybe even heed or inform others that there are some pretty bad spaces in the fandom. I do hope that these videos that talk about the show in a positive light and try to heal the wounds the fandom has can make space for the more casual/relaxed side of the fandom too!

@@Bananabread-and-Icecream I wasn’t trying to say there aren’t any toxic fans out there since that’s obviously not true. I was more so saying that most fans from what I’ve seen seem pretty chill. Sorry that happened to you tho. Harassing people and sending them death threats is insane no matter what, but especially so over a cartoon.

@@Mr.DelicateTouch Thanks for your kind words. I also do get what you were trying to say that there are people who are chill in the fandom and that is important to remember! I think that's true with a lot of fandoms that there are people who enjoy it and are chill and then there are toxic parts of it, and with each fandom it varies with the frequency of how many are chill or toxic and how widespread or active each of these types of people are. I was moreso trying to comment that it's not quite accurate to say that the fandom has its toxic reputation from just how a small group of people acted years ago (it's actually surprisingly quite complicated with what happened to SU, and interesting to go into the history of SU's fandom during 2015-2018, which was probably the peak of the SU discourse online. There are quite a lot of different factors in play there and there wasn't one group of vocal but multiple different things happening for multiple reasons (there is of course the critics that nitpick everything, there was the bleed-over of the political situation in the US in 2016 which coincided with episodes that were dealing with the politics of the gem war which caused a big stir in the fandom back then since a big part of the fandom weren't happy with the direction and this caused quite a rift and negativity in the fandom, the long hiatus that soured a lot of peoples feeling over the show and so much more that I can't give a proper introduction to without going on a whole essay). I remember seeing a good post about it that went into detail of everything that happened and why so, but I don't think youtube allows links. I've really wanted a youtube video breaking down just what happened in SU's history because it really is something that deserves its own essay, since what happened to SU was pretty special.) I do understand why SU's fandom back then got a quite negative press since it was unfortunately victim to all of this heated discourse and whatever, and I've heard several members of the Crewniverse getting harassed by fans for several different reasons and across several different times, whether it was early or late in the show's runtime. (There is of course Rebecca's constant harassment she received, but also different storyboarders and even voice actors receiving heat for simply voicing characters people didn't like.) I guess I just wanted to clarify or not undermine that the fandom had some pretty bad apples and that it wasn't a small group but quite many different people for different reasons but they all did get encouraged by the negative environment there was around SU. And because of that I wanted to share that even nowadays there are still quite toxic fans out there that aren't small groups but multiple different people and groups and even pretty popular people in that part of the fandom, so much so I even got bullied for speaking up that I had been bullied by these popular people until others also got bullied themselves. I guess in my perspective, it was important to address this part of the fandom, since it's doesn't feel like a small incident but it is a problem in the fandom? But it is one that indeed can be counteracted by a positive wave like these videos that address what has previously been harped about and letting a space for the relaxed discussions of SU exist and letting the positive and rational side thrive. SU has a quite complicated history with its fandom, and I know there are many wonderful people out there and I really do want to see the positive side of the fandom flourish! Usually it surprises me to find some hidden gems of videos on here that lets fans get excited or happy to watch.

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I was wondering if that part would ever get followed up on. I really need to go rewatch it as I kind of overlooked it at the time.

I'm gonna interpret that as my videos and say thanks

@@HidinginPrivateyour vids are too good!😂

Also I meant to mention this but her design also took inspiration from the hindu goddess Kali the hindu goddess of destruction and destroyer of evil but still known to go overboard with her chaos hence why sugilite is the way she is and had a strong resemblance to her, she has a really fascinating story highly recommended checking it out 💗💗🫰

​@@rotten_eyeballs6513 Apparently, Rebecca said that coding was used intentionally in the show. That's why people criticize the racial implications of the show very heavily.

Yeah, season one was really dense and packed with a lot of stuff regarding character exploration and worldbuilding while simultaneously never feeling overwhelming, which is definitely helped by the 52 episode count.

Thanks for the nice words. I'm glad I could bring attention to some of the more subtle details

Well I'm glad to hear it. I was mainly brought to be interested in defending the show by the sheer disconnect in the show itself and the claims people made about ut

@@HidinginPrivate that was the main thing that sold me on it. Despite never seeing a single episode of the show I had all these preconceptions about it. Preconceptions that originated in part from videos like those ones. I thought it was crazy that I had biases about a show I had never seen, and the best way to fix that was to give it a shot

@@JustAnderw That’s the unfortunate thing about criticism. If it’s inaccurate, it can cause a lot of people to develop a false perception of the show, leading them to miss out on an actually great story filled fun and important life lessons that can stick with you after the show is over.

I never thought about it that way but that does make sense. You see that a lot in western media. It's interesting.

It can be a vibe

Did people talk shit about the music? I've seen people talk shit about the writing and I think somethings weren't written too great but, eh I think overall it's a good show. But I never saw many people talk bad about the music much?

Ronaldo was seriously fumbled, not sure why really. They spent all that time in Horror Club just to shelve it, but maybe they felt other characters needed more airtime? IDK.

It has arrived

It's always the ones who hate reading 😂

I think it helps the world feel lived in and I loved learning about the town folks. (Except Ronaldo)

Thanks! It sure took a while

Also Episode 24: Connie literally takes the rose colored lenes out of her glasses. It's fantastic, I love it

(Spoilers for SU and SU Future) It was both fascinating and horrorifying seeing it gradually go from Steven being this energetic fun loving kid, to a troubled depressed adult with PTSD. At first I found it so relatable but didn't think much of it. So when they went back and went "actually that's not good parenting and a traumatic childhood" it really hit hard. Then when rewatching the show you see all the signs Steven was struggling with low self esteem and parentification long before it loudly boiled to the surface.

Oh lol, I misspoke

Hopefully they changed their opinion and aren't just making a clickbait title.

@@bayardkyyako7427 tbh i have no interest in watching their video. if they changed their opinion, that's okay, it can happen, it's just funny how HIP released so many videos addressing the criticisms from every youtuber on top of doing it around the time Rebecca sugar comes back and hints she may make more SU content, is interesting timing

@@ShanaReviews I never really watched Lily orchard so idk about them politically, they seem to be either trans or just use differing pronouns, but the SU review almost comes off as a far right level of media literacy, so if they're a lefty it's a very strange set of beliefs and argumentations.

interesting take on the Steven POV thing.

I watched Steven universe when I was a kid without any outside influences too! (Mainly cuz I got a bad feeling from those "criticism" videos AND IM SO GLAD I DID) Steven universe fan til the day I die 😎

Same here. Maybe it was because I was young and had no idea what “fandoms” were + nobody at school liked it but my enjoyment of the show was at it’s highest when i didn’t interact with anyone else who watched it. Once I got older I will admit I did really enjoy posting in the SU amino and once I got a little more older, the subreddit. But I started to see all the discourse and it made me start to lose interest around the time Future came around. But I still love the show and it’ll always hold a special place in my heart. I still have my cheeseburger backpack

Is it weird that I refused to watch the show until this year, as an adult, and only became a big fan this year? I refused to watch it as a child since I thought the animation style made it look like it was just going to be meaningless, hard to sit through and annoying. I'm not kidding. I was expecting something completely different until I read the TV Tropes page about the show