HiFi vs Home Theater Speakers. What's the difference?

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Erin's Audio Corner

Erin's Audio Corner

2 жыл бұрын

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@nonametofame
@nonametofame 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Erin, this was such a badly needed video. I learned a lot, and I hope others do too. You are truly helping to bridge good data and grounded listening impressions. And now you're helping to bridge the 2ch audio purists and HT crowd. Both camps are often misunderstood, and misguided. Thanks for being a voice of reason.
@ErinsAudioCorner
@ErinsAudioCorner 2 жыл бұрын
Man, that's really appreciated. Thanks for the kind words.
@djfirestormx
@djfirestormx Жыл бұрын
its so nice to watch videos where the person ACTUALLY knows what they are talking about. too many channels get into topics they really have no clue and just blurt out what they thought they understood. your channel is one of the most accurate out there, good work
@slaytonfitts4572
@slaytonfitts4572 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, Erin. I have only recently discovered your channel but really appreciate your straightforwardness and your ability to explain complex topics. I look forward to continuing through your catalog and your upcoming videos. Take care!
@keepingupwiththejones2933
@keepingupwiththejones2933 2 жыл бұрын
Man I wish I had watched this video sooner. So entertaining in the beginning and educational for the duration. You are wicked smart. Crash course was definitely appreciated.
@MsSgent
@MsSgent 2 жыл бұрын
Erin this maybe your best video yet. Keeping it (relatively) short while still going through the major points of reading a spin and extraordinarily educational -- using examples, etc. Thanks!!
@ErinsAudioCorner
@ErinsAudioCorner 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that!
@mikewaters6980
@mikewaters6980 2 жыл бұрын
Likely your best video yet mate. Pretty obvious the extended amount of time and effort taken to put this together. You’ve managed to simplify these complex concepts and teach them so we all can learn and understand. Thank you for ur hard work.
@ErinsAudioCorner
@ErinsAudioCorner 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thanks!
@phantomiiist
@phantomiiist 2 жыл бұрын
Loved it! We need more of this cutscene “Erin” action. Made it light/funny and educational. Thanks for what you bring to the table!
@ErinsAudioCorner
@ErinsAudioCorner 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@f1shb0n3d
@f1shb0n3d 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing education about what actually matters in speakers - the most important factors and tradeoffs to consider for each use case. Thanks for explaining such a complex topic in a simple and understandable way!
@ErinsAudioCorner
@ErinsAudioCorner 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@davidkalil5698
@davidkalil5698 2 жыл бұрын
I couldn't agree more. Great job, Erin!
@ErinsAudioCorner
@ErinsAudioCorner 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidkalil5698 thanks! 🙂
@keepingupwiththejones2933
@keepingupwiththejones2933 2 жыл бұрын
Your additional work and effort absolutely shined through on this video. Talk to you later. Really a masterclass in how speakers interact with your ears, your room and each other and how that what you hear shows up in the data. Thanks again.
@artmusselman4875
@artmusselman4875 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, Erin! You've gotten very good at this. Great job. And thanks for moving the ball forward on my understanding of loudspeaker performance.
@ErinsAudioCorner
@ErinsAudioCorner 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thank you!
@MichaelLHill-fd3kw
@MichaelLHill-fd3kw Жыл бұрын
I am not sure how I missed this video but I am so glad that I got to watch this video because I am working on my home family room theater and this is what I needed to see if I can make my system better than it was before. Thank you for sharing your experience and knowledge with us and I hope you continue to drop your enthusiasm and wisdom on this topic.
@APSuk2
@APSuk2 2 жыл бұрын
Great video Erin, very much appreciate the effort & detail you went to explain the differences between the two & what to pay attention to. The visual aspect really helps me to understand what is actually happing in the room & how that translates to the measurements. So easy to forget how the data effects what you perceive in room when you are just looking at data on a page.
@ErinsAudioCorner
@ErinsAudioCorner 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad to hear that! Thanks for the positive vibes. :)
@biff196972
@biff196972 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Aaron, it blows me away how much I learn watching your vids. You got some unreal teaching skillz brother
@ErinsAudioCorner
@ErinsAudioCorner 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind words!
@jandrehattingh
@jandrehattingh Жыл бұрын
Erin, excellent content. from all your Subscribers, thanks for your efforts and attention to detail. You are a gifted teacher!
@Clayshooter100
@Clayshooter100 2 жыл бұрын
This is your best video yet. Thanks for the time and effort you put into making it.
@ErinsAudioCorner
@ErinsAudioCorner 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@boydrijkvan6500
@boydrijkvan6500 2 жыл бұрын
Your best video yet, great stuff. I learned from it while being entertained as well. Thanks Erin!
@ErinsAudioCorner
@ErinsAudioCorner 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thank you!
@jvburnes
@jvburnes Жыл бұрын
This is a tremendously educational video. Its like a short course in speaker acoustics. Thank you.
@BatteryAz1z
@BatteryAz1z 2 жыл бұрын
This is an awesome video, Erin. You really know your stuff!
@FernandoGastelo
@FernandoGastelo Жыл бұрын
I'm all of the guys in the beginning I love listening to vinyls, cds, cassettes, DVDs, blurays, 4k, I consume it all. I love it all. Love your channel, you are not just reviewing equipment but educating and that's something almost no reviewer does
@danny51577
@danny51577 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks brother, this is good info that applies to a wide range of people. Anyone that understands what you are saying, also understands the amount of work you put in to get these type of results and details.
@ErinsAudioCorner
@ErinsAudioCorner 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that.
@vintageflanker7096
@vintageflanker7096 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent work as always, Erin! Happy new year 2022, BTW. 🙂
@ErinsAudioCorner
@ErinsAudioCorner 2 жыл бұрын
Happy new year!
@ronnzi
@ronnzi 2 жыл бұрын
This was an EXCELLENT video. While I had a good understanding of most of this stuff, this video really simplified and clarified that understanding. Thanks for the amazing work!
@ErinsAudioCorner
@ErinsAudioCorner 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thanks!
@jeff-zd2bg
@jeff-zd2bg 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Very informative. Appreciate what you do Erin. Thanks
@ErinsAudioCorner
@ErinsAudioCorner 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that!
@GadgetryTech
@GadgetryTech 2 жыл бұрын
Great job man, well done!
@ErinsAudioCorner
@ErinsAudioCorner 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot!
@we8463
@we8463 2 жыл бұрын
That’s why I like KEF LS50 Meta same vertical and horizontal responses also the UNIQ rocks! Every time I want to refresh my memory about a specific Audio subject, I go back and look at your video. Thank you very much for your willingness to create these educational videos without any pretentious! Continue the great job!
@ErinsAudioCorner
@ErinsAudioCorner 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@we8463
@we8463 2 жыл бұрын
@@ErinsAudioCorner Welcome, in your analysis of both the LS50 meta and the R3 which one did you like best and which one do think would work best for home theater?
@JosephTongret
@JosephTongret 2 жыл бұрын
I'm having a tough day. It's been a tough month to honest. I died when I saw the second scene with the popcorn though. Your facial expressions really got me right there, and I watched it back twice just now, laughing my @$$ off with nobody here but me and the dog! I appreciated the $h!T outta that so much today 😉
@ErinsAudioCorner
@ErinsAudioCorner 2 жыл бұрын
Man, that's awesome! I'm glad I was able to help you have a bit of a chuckle today. Keep your head up, man!
@JosephTongret
@JosephTongret 2 жыл бұрын
@@ErinsAudioCorner Always bro 👍ty
@TheReverendSlim
@TheReverendSlim 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, Erin! I definitely feel like I'll get more out of reading your measurements going forward.
@ErinsAudioCorner
@ErinsAudioCorner 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome! That's why I do this. :)
@Porfmasterflex21
@Porfmasterflex21 2 жыл бұрын
Great video Erin. 👍🏼👍🏼 Really appreciate it.
@ErinsAudioCorner
@ErinsAudioCorner 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@joshhaimes
@joshhaimes 2 жыл бұрын
I definitely learned something. Nicely crafted video, thanks!!
@ErinsAudioCorner
@ErinsAudioCorner 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thank you!
@leonnoel1243
@leonnoel1243 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, I will have to watch it another 5 times for it all to sink in but really appreciate your effort.
@ErinsAudioCorner
@ErinsAudioCorner 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@josegazal701
@josegazal701 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video as usual!!!
@ErinsAudioCorner
@ErinsAudioCorner 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@we8463
@we8463 2 жыл бұрын
Erin thank you for another great educational video, you are making Dr. Toole’s book live, 👍🏻 and make it much more accessible for non scientists and engineers. The room is over 50% of what we hear which is why speakers always sound different when compared to having a demo in a dealer showroom! A well designed speaker should sound good regardless of usage. In addition listening closer to the speaker helps reduce the room sound! The key is to have an acoustically treated room with the lowest floor noise possible. Of course using a good EQ like Genesis from Anthem helps with getting better sound. Personally, I am a Home Theater enthusiasts first and also enjoys well recorded SACD multichannel music and Blu-Ray concert! Having a collection of over 2000 movies and a couple hundred multichannel SACD of classical music, I don’t care much anymore for stereo! Also Apple Music albums remastered in Atmos is really cool!
@mfkhometheater7742
@mfkhometheater7742 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Not many people realize the importance of off axis response.
@Ronildoquek
@Ronildoquek 2 жыл бұрын
Very good! Enjoyed the video! Good job, appreciate the Time and educational video
@ErinsAudioCorner
@ErinsAudioCorner 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@doublet147
@doublet147 2 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed this video. Thanks for all information you shared.
@ErinsAudioCorner
@ErinsAudioCorner 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to help.
@jeremiahchamberlin4499
@jeremiahchamberlin4499 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, Erin, your video was a brilliant exposition of speaker performance and how to interpret the confusing graphs you’re always talking about. :-) seriously, you helped me integrate what I read in Floyd Toole’s book ‘Sound Reproduction.’ I will have to check out the videos you referenced, because I truly do not understand what compression is as it relates to audio. Good job. 👍 Excellent job. 👍👍👍
@ErinsAudioCorner
@ErinsAudioCorner 2 жыл бұрын
I love that kind of feedback! That was precisely my goal. Glad to see it helped!
@JBSCHAFFNER
@JBSCHAFFNER 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video… just had a discussion related to this about home theater 5.2.2 system. Using ceiling atmos in front and putting back surround a few feet higher up on the wall pointed down since the atmos software is going to send all rear upper and side information to your surround rears.. With more forgiving vertical axis speakers I think this is the best option.
@TheNotoriousGamer
@TheNotoriousGamer 2 жыл бұрын
Another amazing video Erin! This is why I am such a big proponent of studio monitors because you can easily do both music and HT. Most people know that studio monitors have a flat on axis response, but most don't realize how much output the larger 3-way studio monitors possess. Outputs of 120+dB are the norm with some going up to 130dB. Movies are mixed on these monitors. I have amazing dual purpose systems using Adam S3V's and Emotiva Stealth 8's.
@PixelPotionCafe
@PixelPotionCafe 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. I have mixed usage and use large studio monitors for the mains (EV Sentry III), and while they go plenty low for music, the subs really compliment them for the low end. The rest of the HT speakers are considerably cheaper!
@paulcox2447
@paulcox2447 2 жыл бұрын
Anytime you can get a speaker with some "balls" behind it in the house it's likely going to do a good job for mixed duties. That's the only time I think the audiphile speakers fail is when they don't quite have enough sensitivity and or total output for that realism at higher playback levels that you tend to need for movies
@adamjj85
@adamjj85 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! I liked it in the first 20 seconds...;)
@mikeortiz2139
@mikeortiz2139 2 жыл бұрын
The intro to this video should be the video that play when someone clicks on your channel. That one that auto starts. Love it. Very informative. I'll be checking out that Measurements playlist of yours when I get a chance. Thanks man.
@ErinsAudioCorner
@ErinsAudioCorner 2 жыл бұрын
Lol. That’s not a bad idea!
@happyfisch1033
@happyfisch1033 2 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate the effort you put into this video. If I had this video earlier I would have saved hours and hours of research to finding the right speakers for my room, taste, listening habits and budget. This video confirms and summs up a lot of things I spend month of to research. Wasn't easy to research, especially because many review speakers very subjektiv and without measurements. Wich is fine, but makes it difficult to compare products and to determining their (best) usecase
@ErinsAudioCorner
@ErinsAudioCorner 2 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome!
@davidatrakchi2707
@davidatrakchi2707 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I did learn a lot from this episode.
@ErinsAudioCorner
@ErinsAudioCorner 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome. Glad to hear that.
@decaf77
@decaf77 2 жыл бұрын
Great video thank you for sharing your knowledge!
@ErinsAudioCorner
@ErinsAudioCorner 2 жыл бұрын
Happy to! That's what this is all about!
@juliancrun
@juliancrun 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, thanks.
@krancan25
@krancan25 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome, thanks for this video!
@ErinsAudioCorner
@ErinsAudioCorner 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the reply!
@paulpaulzadeh6172
@paulpaulzadeh6172 2 жыл бұрын
great content Erin , more such video , greeting from Sweden
@ErinsAudioCorner
@ErinsAudioCorner 2 жыл бұрын
Sweden is such a beautiful country. Been there once. Would love to visit again!
@gaurd3
@gaurd3 2 жыл бұрын
Effort showed. Made it into my recommendations. BTW I think you did a good job walking that tightrope in this hobby.. Money typically solves most problems
@chipmunk6386
@chipmunk6386 2 жыл бұрын
Good stuff Erin 👍👊
@ErinsAudioCorner
@ErinsAudioCorner 2 жыл бұрын
:)
@Youevl
@Youevl 2 жыл бұрын
Great Video!!! Your educational content is always Awesome!!! Got a 5.2.4 with Imagine X from PSB plus 2 polk HTS-12 powered with Onkyo TX-RZ740 and an emotiva a2 for LR Front speakers PSB X2T towers. Got 2 EQ one for HT and an almost flat one for 2ch. The PSB work very well both cases in my opinion.
@ErinsAudioCorner
@ErinsAudioCorner 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice!
@adrianegowski5012
@adrianegowski5012 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Hope this will be seen by many. Now thinking of those "press reviews"... It starts getting funny :) Thanks for such effort!
@ErinsAudioCorner
@ErinsAudioCorner 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to reply. :)
@adrianegowski5012
@adrianegowski5012 2 жыл бұрын
@@ErinsAudioCorner I was thinking. I've measured my best recordings on CD and best result i have got is 17dB of dynamics (used foobar plugin, don't exactly remember how it calculates). So that would lead me to conclusion that if I do not like listening very loud (more than 85dB - usually 75dB) I'm good with almost every speaker and every amp.... So why on audio websites they always tell me that my 400W amp is too weak for my Dynaudios? What this is about? If they have 86dB@2W for most music probably i do not use more than 2W per channel. Sometimes, when I get louder (95dB and more) my limiter kicks in... But in my subwoofer ;-) Other thing is... Do you know what is the dynamic range in movies? Just by watching them casually I can hear that it is much more than music. But just curious... Based on your wideo I got the feeling that Home Theater requires better speakers. And this is my observation as well. If you have good HT speakers they most likely will sound great in 2 channel system (as you mentioned EQ may be required but this will be easy. Unlike audiophile speakers. Have you ever tried EQuing B&W speakers?:D)
@s.daniel9224
@s.daniel9224 11 ай бұрын
Great job!
@MRPC5
@MRPC5 2 жыл бұрын
I really liked this one. Thank you!
@ErinsAudioCorner
@ErinsAudioCorner 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the reply!
@StevePilgrim2013
@StevePilgrim2013 2 жыл бұрын
Solid explanations, Erin. Really enjoying your work! Spent Thanksgiving at Guntersville Lake & passed through your neck of the woods on the way there. We'll have to connect after the "craziness" subsides. (It will, won't it?) 😵‍💫
@ErinsAudioCorner
@ErinsAudioCorner 2 жыл бұрын
That would be cool. And, yea, I'm not sure things will ever return to pre-COVID state but we just gotta hang in there and adapt like we do with everything else in life.
@JosephTongret
@JosephTongret 2 жыл бұрын
Really great job of bringing everything into a simple to understand perspective. I'm a two channel guy and I use my systems for both music and tv/movies. I'd like to see more speakers that really hit the priorities of both HT and hifi. The THX Arendal Sound speakers have garnered a little attention recently in forums probably for the reason that they satisfy the desires of both camps at a price that's relatively affordable. Seems to be uncommon to find that.
@ricksmith7659
@ricksmith7659 2 жыл бұрын
I feel SVS is doing the same
@csdstudio78
@csdstudio78 6 ай бұрын
I agree. I have high standards for sound quality... My home theater system must be hifi quality or it's just loud noise. So many home theater in a box systems are all about speaker count and loudness with sound quality being lowest priority. Movie soundtracks are incredible and deserve near hifi quality reproduction.
@TheBassallyear100
@TheBassallyear100 2 жыл бұрын
now i'm armed with more information to set myself even further back! lol. absolutely excellent video. i'm currently on the opposite side of my improving audio experience where my AVR (an anthem mrx 1120) substantially out performs my aging speakers from the not so special K. anthem arc room eq has allowed me to hold onto those sad boys beyond their welcome.
@Jorge-Fernandez-Lopez
@Jorge-Fernandez-Lopez 2 жыл бұрын
I have learned a lot. Thank you.
@ErinsAudioCorner
@ErinsAudioCorner 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@homeboi808
@homeboi808 2 жыл бұрын
Before I watch: For me, if I were to draw a line, a speaker meant for home theater will trade bass for higher sensitivity (e.g., PowerSoundAudio speakers). I personally wouldn’t use anything
@TylerStout
@TylerStout 2 жыл бұрын
Yep exactly this. Sensitivity in my opinion is one of the more important attributes for HT but from my experience speaker shopping for upgrades all the bookshelf speakers are like plays down to 40hz F3 and I'm over here thinking about Hoffman's iron law and how these reasonably sized speakers can't be sensitive. I just need enough clean output to fill 80hz with 12db/octave slope but bass is what sells. Yes stuff with larger than 6.5" woofers exist doing what I want but those aren't practical always.
@homeboi808
@homeboi808 2 жыл бұрын
Also, for people wondering, it’s not just simply that home theater people listen louder, it’s that the content is mixed different in terms of vocal level. For movies I find myself around -10dBFS. For tv I find myself around -16dBFS. For music I usually find myself around -15dBFS to -30dBFS. 0dBFS being 102dB-105dB at the MLP.
@ErinsAudioCorner
@ErinsAudioCorner 2 жыл бұрын
85dB is the reference; most tend to find that a bit loud (according to the research that I dug up; also mentioned in Toole's book). But we gotta have room for those dynamic swings. If your speaker cuts that off, that sucks.
@joesabato9736
@joesabato9736 2 жыл бұрын
I find the opposite to be true for me, my average listening level for music is higher whether I am using the 2 channel or HT system. For grins, I monitored SPL levels for an action movie that I played at my normal levels. The average vocals were in the 70 to 73 db range ( hushed vocals were lower) and the action sequences averaged about 90db, with the peak reading of 102db. My average for music tends to run in the 85 to 90db range with peaks at 105; music recordings on the whole are more compressed by the recording engineer. My 2 channel system does this better mainly becaused the horn based towers can play close to club levels without much strain. These are generalities and may change for different music/ movies, but it is what I find to be generally true. I grew up in a time where live bands were the norm in clubs, so that has stayed my reference for music listening. The only clubs with a PA and a DJ were a few " Disco clubs" with the light up dance floors ( I am dating myself 😁), fortunately, they were not around too long.
@TBrownRecords
@TBrownRecords Жыл бұрын
You made a very helpful video
@bkline3147
@bkline3147 2 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this video and learned a few things. Thank you! Please talk more about home theater...maybe a HT upgrade would be a great series of videos in the future.
@ErinsAudioCorner
@ErinsAudioCorner 2 жыл бұрын
Will do!
@jimcomas3003
@jimcomas3003 2 жыл бұрын
Truly great Erin! I think there are 3 points to make out of this: 1: need different speakers for each case. 2: the home theater room has to be dadicated and treated acousticly, due to very high SPL's. 3: I prefer listening my hi-fi rig at night or with eyes closed. I feel I focus better on hearing only. When you watch a movie you satisfy also your vision so you are in a different state of mind.
@ErinsAudioCorner
@ErinsAudioCorner 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I do want to clear up that I don't think you should have to choose. But in the real-world, it's tough to do so, especially on a more modest budget and trying to have dynamic range.
@joesabato9736
@joesabato9736 2 жыл бұрын
This flowed real well Erin, covered the generalities real well. Another factor in why 2 channel system guys don't EQ is that 2 channel amp systems do not have it natively built in or make it easy to implement. Tape monitor loops where you could implement a graphic or PEQ at line level are pretty much gone. Pre out / Main In is also rare in 2 channel amps and EQ's may not deal well with the voltage swings there. I am lucky enough to have a good room for my 2 channel setup and got good response the old fashion way through setup ( and Yamaha Pure Direct mode really does sound better than when tone controls are in the loop) Like you, my music is in the 85-90db average range ( If a snare hit doesn't startle you, it's not loud enough 😁)
@chrisanderson4387
@chrisanderson4387 2 жыл бұрын
2 channel enthusiasts are missing out on the amazing sense of sound stage that you get when you have a dozen speakers and a good recording.
@cybergornstartrooper2157
@cybergornstartrooper2157 2 жыл бұрын
The high end Linn streamers have room correction built in. Personally I find eq muddies the mid range and sound stage, and can cause strange holes In the frequency response. Although I have a Sonos one which while not true hifi does do room correction really well. I think eq works much better when it’s digital, especially when you have a digital crossover.
@chrisanderson4387
@chrisanderson4387 2 жыл бұрын
@@cybergornstartrooper2157 Room correction is EQ. If you're using room correction, you're using EQ. All it is, is shifting the intensity of the signal at certain frequency ranges.
@cybergornstartrooper2157
@cybergornstartrooper2157 2 жыл бұрын
@@chrisanderson4387 I fully realise this hence why I use the terms interchangeably in my comment. Perhaps I should have chosen one and stuck with it to avoid confusion. My point is eq can cause the midrange to be muddied but done well, especially in the digital domain can enhance the listening experience. I have the Yamaha a1010 and eq on this amp, while effective in movies, is not so good for music which is why i always defeat it for music using pure direct.
@markmorgenstern
@markmorgenstern Жыл бұрын
love the purple & blue bass trap on the right there :)
@grand7m
@grand7m 2 жыл бұрын
I built three of those DIYSG HTM-12 for my home theater's LCR. It was a few years ago but I paid $366 per speaker shipped for the full kit including flat packs. I don't have much to compare with but the sound and imaging I get from them always blow me away. The build process was relatively simple but rewarding. When it comes to my Left Center Right, I have absolutely zero FOMO about possible upgrades. If anyone is thinking about DIY or just wants to get great value theater mains, I can't recommend these enough.
@johnp9898
@johnp9898 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing video! Oooh! I recognize those 3rd speaker graphs! HTM-12v2 by DIYSG. I have these speakers and definitely use eq and dual subs and thus I am super happy with them.
@ErinsAudioCorner
@ErinsAudioCorner 2 жыл бұрын
Very cool!
@casaroli
@casaroli 2 жыл бұрын
I’m both. I have a dedicated stereo amp hooked to the preamp LR front of my AVR. Movies with EQ and music without EQ. But I did integrate a sub to my stereo to mitigate the dips in the bass.
@Nightjar726
@Nightjar726 6 ай бұрын
As an audiophile 2 channel enthusiast who uses two subs I want higher output. I do usually listen at around 75-85 peaks. But I want the extra firepower if I want it. Plus the low distortion and compression. No one needs distortion and compression. Not to mention my listening distance is around 13 feet. Thanks Erin. Great channel
@audioprotaro1338
@audioprotaro1338 5 ай бұрын
This is probably the first and foremost video everyone should watch before doing anything.
@AA-ws3vd
@AA-ws3vd 2 жыл бұрын
Tea time with Erin!!!
@ErinsAudioCorner
@ErinsAudioCorner 2 жыл бұрын
😂
@jkjlgoui
@jkjlgoui 2 жыл бұрын
Great video
@ErinsAudioCorner
@ErinsAudioCorner 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@aliframadhan1202
@aliframadhan1202 Ай бұрын
I remember the old model JBL speakers had a built in relay switch which functioned to change the movie or music mode. Yes, in one speaker cabinet there are 2 sets of speakers, you can set the mode from the AV processor. But now modern receivers can change movie or music modes digitally with just one speaker
@Stan_the_Belgian
@Stan_the_Belgian 2 жыл бұрын
Great intro!
@ErinsAudioCorner
@ErinsAudioCorner 2 жыл бұрын
😂👍
@getzfan1258
@getzfan1258 11 ай бұрын
Another excellent presentation! I'm curious as to which speakers you used for this video?
@cabronesse386
@cabronesse386 2 жыл бұрын
Love the intro! LOL
@ghostrecon3214
@ghostrecon3214 2 жыл бұрын
I love slides, don't shy away from them!
@pedrotavares3555
@pedrotavares3555 2 жыл бұрын
Great job, Erin. After your Kali IN 5 measurements, I ordered a pair and I love the speakers. :)
@ErinsAudioCorner
@ErinsAudioCorner 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!
@kevinmcnamara4912
@kevinmcnamara4912 10 ай бұрын
Good solid hifi floorstanders for ur left and right. Then add in same brand sourround speakers for the rest. Best of both worlds and a huge front line of sound for ur fronts .
@cau8365
@cau8365 2 жыл бұрын
Love it! sub. Thank you .
@MSmith-ib1du
@MSmith-ib1du 2 жыл бұрын
Hahaha, the movie enthusiast and the 2-channel purist impersonations are spot on. I think it all comes to budgetary reasons. But remember, "just because you can afford a Ferrari, that doesn't mean that you can get a car"
@DaveJohnsonOttawa
@DaveJohnsonOttawa 2 жыл бұрын
Very good job
@ErinsAudioCorner
@ErinsAudioCorner 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@tataavirneni6168
@tataavirneni6168 8 ай бұрын
Thank you.
@Saturn2888
@Saturn2888 Жыл бұрын
I'm actually someone who built a home theater for games first and maybe some movies and shows later. Most of the shows I watch are in 2-channel anyway, so I only benefit from the home theater with games and the occasional movie. I've been doing more movies since April when I started buying and ripping Blu-rays, but other than that, I'm none of the stereotypes you're presenting in this video.
@adamlucas3134
@adamlucas3134 Жыл бұрын
I like your PowerPoint slides
@cracklingice
@cracklingice Жыл бұрын
Checked out a few of your videos today. Found them informative and entertaining. But I was also the kid who got the book on speaker box design from the local radio shack back in elementary school. Having that experience with geometry and algebra going into middle school kinda surprised the teacher. haha Was hoping you had checked out the Dayton AIR series. I've heard very good things about the B652-AIR for their price and was thinking that they might make a pretty decent set for a cheap HT setup.
@graysonpeddie
@graysonpeddie 3 ай бұрын
I do care so much about linearity and high output; plus, it would be great to hear what speakers sound even without equalization, so yeah I'm into home theater and 2-channel music. I am willing to upgrade from my Polk T50 floorstanding speaker that I purchased since the mid-2010s (probably later 2010s but I don't have the receipt from Best Buy regarding my purchase date). The speakers that I have that can play down to around 35Hz or so. I'm going to go for neutral-sounding speakers front speakers (I do not have room for a center speaker for the time being as I'm in a small room in a rental house).
@StellarAudyssey
@StellarAudyssey 2 жыл бұрын
Nice one 👍
@ErinsAudioCorner
@ErinsAudioCorner 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@mircea5013
@mircea5013 Жыл бұрын
Eh. Yet again, someone with few subscribers is way better, way more documented and offers way better arguments then other "popular" channels. Also, I've started to appreciate more the people that don't just ride the wave and are not afraid to say their opinion, regardless of general public opinion. It seems it's all for the money in the end. Channels that grow are usually well funded by companies, they have biased opinions and frankly tell people what the people want to hear. All of a sudden the guy in the video is your friend because he's telling you what you wanted to hear. You subscribe. You're a sheep. I like your videos.
@mndlessdrwer
@mndlessdrwer 2 жыл бұрын
Either type of speaker can, in theory, be used for either application, however, home theater speakers, in particular, usually have a very different tuning to pump up the mids and midbass response moreso than the upper treble. If you're comfortable with using EQ, it is entirely possible to correct for this in the vast majority of cases. The other potential downside to trying to run home theater speakers for your HiFi is that you've likely had to make some compromises to your front stage and amplifier setup in order to get surround speakers and a receiver with enough channels and capability to run said surround sound. So, in a lot of instances, a home theater setup may be a few compromises too many for a HiFi enthusiast. Obviously, all of these problems can be resolved if you're willing and able to throw enough money at the problem, but it's still an important thing to recognize and many people just getting into either hobby may not understand this just starting out, so videos like this have a lot of utility.
@m4nc1n1
@m4nc1n1 2 жыл бұрын
Room treatment for first reflection is key. Makes a huge improvement if done right (left, right, floor, ceiling)
@jeffs70chevelle
@jeffs70chevelle Жыл бұрын
do you know of any videos showing exactly how to calculate where the first reflection points are based on your speaker position relative to walls? I've seen videos of people saying to treat the early reflections but no direction on how to find those points
@DavidCNavas
@DavidCNavas 8 ай бұрын
This was fantastic. I have so many questions now about how a recording can capture instrument directivity (say, your sax example) in the original venue, and then how the devil you're supposed to reproduce that in your room with a speaker that has a fixed directivity. No wonder room treatment is so important. The room has to be near dead for this to have a hope of working. Not mentioned (or maybe I missed it?) the center speaker. Especially for those of us without a screen. You've spoken on the issue before, might be good to reference those.
@audfrknaveen2256
@audfrknaveen2256 2 жыл бұрын
Erin !!! Starting of the video is fun 😀😀😀 and you should really get into acting now 😀😀👍
@ErinsAudioCorner
@ErinsAudioCorner 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@astra004
@astra004 2 жыл бұрын
Your most visually laborious video! Great! Back to the topic: cinema sound is more demanding than contemporary music today in my opinion. And I hope for more multichannel productions via HDMI through AVRs. THX certification isn’t good enough for music without movies? Nah.
@jimm387
@jimm387 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video Erin, speaking of HiFi vs Home Theater, do you prefer to use a 45 or 60 degree separation for Left/Right speakers in a Home Theater application?
@hampyonce
@hampyonce 2 жыл бұрын
I care so little about HT that I have a 7.1 Denon (plus enough speakers) that isn’t even plugged in. I listen to music on a vintage Onkyo (no HDMI) with some AR towers (built in powered subs) that might be HT speakers but they are musical enough for me. I guess I’m doing music in 2.2. None of my six TVs is connected to anything. I’ve done it. It didn’t amuse me. I think it’s because I don’t own an actual center channel speaker. Anywho, just found your tube and enjoyed this post. Subscribed. Teach me things. I’m a 60 year old know it all, BTW.
@c128stuff
@c128stuff Жыл бұрын
Thanks, interesting explanation from things I know from observation and listening, well explained. And... nothing wrong with using a pp presentation... there is a channel (perun) which essentially runs 1h+ long pp presentations.. which grew to 200k+ subscribers in no time, it can be totally appropriate when presenting data.
@jonathangoforth2048
@jonathangoforth2048 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. Do speaker manufacturers publish the types of measurements to which you’re referring?
@Bradimus1
@Bradimus1 2 жыл бұрын
I wish I had the time to be all of those things. My Monitor Audio Bronze 100s do alright though to do both 2 channel music and home theater duties.
@kingcarcas1349
@kingcarcas1349 2 жыл бұрын
Wild that my Chanes tested pretty badly but I still like them for HT. Eventually I'm going to build some CSS Critons
@JodyM2
@JodyM2 2 жыл бұрын
I have a room full of old speakers most are home theater except the ones that are too old to be. I love listening to music on my M&K S150's
@tonydillinger2553
@tonydillinger2553 10 ай бұрын
I have klipsch mclaren fives with svs sb 3000, not bad. now debating getting receiver and amp with 5.1
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