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Great review as always! Fun facts: In Sanskrit, Sundara means beautiful, Deva means God, Ananda means happiness, Arya means honorable and Susvara means melodious.

I just got my 2020 Sundara last week. Im pretty sure a minor difference in pad design and material resulted in the shift in sound you’ve identified. Literally the drivers angle being fractionally different due to the pads being fractionally thinner at the front. Anyway cheers for the re-review! :)

They fixed the pads on these which compensate for the lack of cup swivel. The spikes in the high end are gone and the low end is extended. They basically fixed all the flaws on the original version. It's an excellent headphone and an excellent value. It also scales very well.

I have to move to headphones from speakers for reasons, and what I'm picking up doing my research is that if you're going to be a headphone person, you can go in any direction you like, but you probably need to start with a set of these and a set of HD600s so you have your basic food groups covered, so to speak.

There's a subtle visual detail between the two. The OGs have a slightly more transparent grill, whereas the 2020s are more blacked out. This is because the 2020s are actually ever-so-slightly dampened to give them ever-so-slightly smoother and warmer mids. The difference is very small.

A few months ago, I bought myself a pair for the office, a second pair for the home theater room, and a third pair for my wife. We love them. (We don't love the stock cable, though.)

Little update after 5 months of (very) happy owning of these. I'm using them with the Ifi Zen Dac V2. They really benefit from going balanced: the sound gets a little more clear, cohesive, refined. After a bit of use and switching to a balanced cable, they became smooth like a pillow. I can drive them at fairly high volume without getting any harshness, shoutyness or fatigue whatsoever. It's a very relaxed, yet fun and engaging experience. They sound like a charm, loving every note!

I purchased the Sundara a few months ago, (first planar magnetic) and they are the gateway to many more to come. I also purchased 2.5 balanced cables and the Qudelix 5K portable amp. Thanks ZEOS!

Zeos I love you lmao that ending was gold😂. As a Sundara OG owner (also my first ever audio-file headphone) I literally understood every word of how the sound was moved. I bet the new ones are just as insane as u say they are. Not gonna buy them tho, there’s no need

Thx for your reviews, i recently bought one of these in belgium and it s definitely a game changer for someone like me who came from a noise cancelling headphone (sony xm3) to one of these with an ifi zen dac v2 (bass boost awesomeness). I learned a lot about headphone thx to you and dms, joshua alour, etc. Push that like button ;)

I've been trying out the HE-X4s from Drop for the past few weeks, and I'd love to hear your opinion on them sometime soon.

Love these cans. I feel they work best with a little added warmth...on the Schiit Asgard 3 they're so good. And if I want some gooey retro vibes I pair them with a Xduoo MT-602 hybrid and sit back and just chill. Highly recommended. Thanks Z for all the great and (mostly) rational audiophile infotainment. ;-)

Thanks for helping me to choose these headphones. Absolutely delighted with them!

I know this is off topic but Zeos do you think that there will be a refresh if the adx family. like the ad-700x [which im still mad you havent reviewed] and ad-2000x. i have the 700x and i would like to get the 1000x but if they are making a new series i dont want to get a headphones that almost a decade old.

That abrupt cut at the end got me.

I've had my Sundaras since march. I love them very much!

why the hell is this guy so entertaining? i could watch for hours .. and have : / needless to say, subscribed.

I bought the linsoul m3x now these headphones from your links in the last month. Good stuff

Hope you get around to testing the new Corsair Virtuoso XT, I love Virtuoso's look but the SE/1.0 just ain't it for me

I have the Hifiman Sundara. How do you tell the difference between v2016 and v2020?? Any difference in box??

Great review, thanks for your video. How much power (mW), as minimum, do Sundaras need from amplifiers? 1W x 2 @32 Ohm delivered from SMSL M500 MK3 could be enough?

Id love to know how the Sandras compare to the hd660s today

Sundara's are one of my favourite set of headphones

I love these headphones, but I never owned the old versions for a comparison

Just bought these based on your review, and now I'm looking for a nice and cheap amp to drive them. Would you choose the Magni 3+ or the Heresy? Or should I look elsewhere?

Hi there , I got the Sundara's and looking for and AMP and DAC to pair them with , many recommended me the the Schiit Magni IE or the Heresy and the Modi , is it good for those or should I get something else? budget is up to 300 -400$ .

How do they compare to the HD 660 s? Thanks in advance! (P.s. Just as an all in one, all day headphone) or what would you recommend? edit: coming from a guy who used to daily drive a pair of hesh 3's and now uses a base boosted 560s (around and below 75 Hz + 6 dB).

Try and review the he6se v2 (the Adorama ones) with the grill taken off. They're amazing

Any opinion between these two Hifiman HE400se (ori) vs Hifiman HE400se Stealth Magnet (Int) version

Wow just got my 2020 Sundara today, first video i'm listening with them

Can you take a look at the new Corsair Virtuoso XT? I read rewievs that said it fixed the muddy sound and also supports dolby atmos.

Hi, Can this headphone sound good (not too dry) paired with an RME ADi-2 DAC FS ( standalone ) ? Or it might sound a tad lifeless or I dunno ?

Hey z.. What brand is the purple cable? U use it often. Looking for a new headphone cable for my sundara. A bit longer as well. Thanks

Looking to upgrade from my hd58x any recommendations? I’ve been looking at these, hd600 and AT-r70x

They changed the front side of the pads to be thinner in shape than the back side. Im getting the Arya v2 today I'm nervous the Sundara 2020 might be all i need. I been on the market for a grado rs2e for a while but i think the sundara 2020 are better after burnin. They sound more natural more cleaner. The same " you are there" sound i loved from the rs2e. The orginal Sundura cable gives the bass a tighter response.

Pad shape still the same as og. New ones just different stitching to avoid them falling apart like some old ones did. The stitching slightly changes the seal. And possibly the inner material is slightly different... Pretty big change in sound for such small change to pads. For the better.

Dude your listening room is my fucking dream holy wow. Also the fact that you can find these now just about anywhere for 299 makes these a new gold standard for sub 500 cans.

hey Z are there any new fun closed cans in the 200€ range worth considering?

5:48 I kinda wish I did, but my stock cable refuses to work with my sundaras. Other cables work with them, and the cable works on its own but the cable that came with the headphones will not work with them.

I've said since I got them that the Sundara sounds more like listening to big speakers not headphones! I have the 2020s

Hi - What is the best AMP / DAV to use for PC gaming?

Are headphones like these worth buying if i mainly play music mostly from spotify? Are there specific amps you'd recommend with these? Please help i'm a noob.

I got a pair recently and they unfortunately had channel imbalance issues. Hopefully my replacement is better.

I need a hip Dac or dac amp recommendation for the sundara’s please!

So you're saying with the new ones you can motorboat the Soundstage. Am I understanding this correctly?

What's the red and blue cable that he used for the sundara's in this video? I just bought a pair and I don't like the stock cable XD

The ‘tree’ is in the manuals if you read em..

A few people contacted Hifiman directly to know more about the revision and the company told them the 2018 and 2020 models are exactly the same headphone, but every reviewer did find sonic differences between the two models. That is confusing!

How can i differentiate the different versions from the outside package?

That Hifiman cable could be a bit better and more flexible than the moon audio black dragon cable. Seriously... just a few labeled heat shrink tubes missing.

Love all your reviews but something I've been wondering...where do you get your desk mats!?

Have you tried the nectar bee headphones! The guy who created the electro static hive x headphones. Sajeev great guy and just received them this week. Loving them so far.

are they easy or hard to drive? cos i have read both. can a fiio M11 or btr 7 drive them well? thanks so much

would it be worth to get the sundara if I already own the He4xx?

Can you do a review on the Audeze maxwells? People are saying they are just as good as these but wireless.

My Sundaras arrive today, really excited to finally try them. By the way does anyone know what the manufacturer for that desk pad is? It's really cool but I can't find it anywhere.

Hi, how is the combination of the sundara with the dragon fly cobalt?

Didn't they change the shape of the magnets rounding them off or something to change the sound?

I just saw that there is a Hifiman Sundara Silver Edition 2023 Revision. Will you be reviewing them?

Can the pads of this headphones be replaced to mAke them last longer?

Have the Sundara from May 2019 AXPONA. Realized the pads are hot and not good for long listening sections. Thanks for to you for the Dekoni Beyer Pad review, as I replaced them with the Dekoni Audio Elite Fenestrated Sheepskin Replacement Ear Pads for HiFiMan HE Series. $80 well spent this year. They had 8' cloth covered cables (from the 400S) as a replacement cable I ordered at the same time.

I'm quite excited. I have the Sennheiser HD 579 and HD 700. I - HATE- the cable for the Sennheiser HD 700. I actually had to use the warranty to replace them since they had a disconnect in the left side after some use. The replacement eventually began failing too. The replacement cost for the cable is asinine too - $173, on Sennheisers' website. I bought the Sundara to replace the Sennheiser HD 700 and am waiting for them. As much as I actually loved the HD 700, I had to use a toner to get them where I wanted them. They are vastly superior to the 579 but they are discontinued at this point either way.

These or HD660s. Cant decide...coming from old HD598

Isn't the difference between the OG and 2020 versions the angle of the 2020 pads?

Just got my Sundaras. Love them, also came with a little piece of white lint...

I listened to the old Sundara on a hifi show with me Rupert Neve amp. Within seconds I love the sound. It will sound more open on my Musical Fidelity amp. But I am still buying the Ergo 2 helmet speakers.

do you prefer the sound of the sundara or the sendy aiva?

Mine came in today in just a plain box similar to what Drop uses sometimes for their headphones mostly brown with a little strip that indicated it was Hifiman Sundara and no booklet and a QR scan box with warranty and a serial and if you follow them on Facebook an extra 6 months warranty no booklet though. I can't figure out which version I got. I bought mine from Newegg.

Thank you sound demo for the earlier video

The single best headphone you can get for the price, it beats everything until you get to something like an Ananda or a Focal Elex/Elear. DT1990 and HD660S wish they were this. If you're looking for a fun headphone then like just EQ up the bass on the Sundara or put it on a warm source cause for the price it has the best technical performance.

I love this channel, I’m new to the whole audiophile scene. How and where can you learn to setup a beginners or intermediate system to do this stuff? What pc would I need, dacs, amps...?

I love ginger beer btw. What is that mouse on your desk? it is really cool looking.

Z - have you been able to get your hands on the new Sundara Closed Back? Hope to see a review soon...

The 2020 rev. is basically towards the front the pads are angled in/thinner. It does change the sound signature a bit. Just got mine a few weeks ago and couldn't be happier. Might get the Ananda's in the future.

Price should be the same. They switched the material on the pads. I sent an old pair of Sundara pads to Resolve and he swapped them to a 2020 Sundara and they measured and sounded like the old pairs. There should be new versions at most places that sell them assuming they sold enough to get through the old pairs as Hifiman only makes this version now. The sound difference is that the new Sundara have less of a rescission in the transition from upper mids to treble and it comes across as even more natural than the already natural sounding old pair.

filo is coming out with new btr5 and has zeros loved MQA decoding :D

Tried the bluetack mod on the HE5xx?

The sound of a complete madman listening to utter bliss. I just may buy it!

Can you do a review on the Corsair Virtuoso XT's? I know you did a review on the SE's some time ago, I'm really curious to see if they improved on the sound quality from those to the XT's ($60 markup btw) because the build quality genuinely looks very very good on the Virtuosos

Is fiio btr5 good for sundara?

My 2020 sundaras have a fucked up left driver that tanks the signal response below around 100hz, leading to a noticable difference in bass response between both sides. QC issues are definitely still present.

You are damn funny. Especially the cable demonstration.

Hey zeos the question is do they go on your wall ???

Are the Pali pads updated on the Hifiman store? I ordered those a few months ago, but idk if I got the new pads or not…

when's the SVS 3000 micro review coming? :)

I'm so tempted, but I already have the HE4XX, Verum 1 and GL2000. If I buy anything else from Hifiman it will probs be the Arya, sometime in the distant future. But I should really get myself some dynamics, because I only know what planars sound like.

Got a pair of these direct from Hifiman earlier this week. Think those are the new ones? Love them either way.

I have a question, a few weeks ago my sundaras started to make a weird noise in left cup... its not noticable when i'm using it but rather when i just wear them. The problem appears when touch the earcup ( basically when i press it anywhere on left side ) or move my head. Should i contact the Hifiman or make complaint?

where can I buy the red and blue cables ?

Is there a difference between a headphone's version that's sold on massdrop? I see sometimes there are regular then massdrop versions.

Can I run these with good volume from BTR5 single ended 3.5 mm jack?

Is this the 'stealth' update from early 2020, or a newer 2020 update. I bought mine May 2020.

Zeos a link for replacement cable pls?

I wonder when the Sundara will get the 2020(He400i/SE and HE6SE) headband.

Hi, can anyone compare them to 1990 pro trying to decide between them. Thanks in advance

I just want to put in my two cents regarding the Sundara 2020 version. After watching at least 5 other video reviews and reading user reviews all over the place, I pulled the trigger on these. I personally think they're not the end all be all headphone. They remind me a lot of my AKG Q701's where they do spectacular in specific genres like rock and metal for the Sundaras, Jazz and Pop for Q701's. They don't exactly have a midrange body like the Etymotic ER4S, but they have some sort of upper midrange hump around 900hz-1khz ish where it adds a bit of thickness which counters the lean nature. However due to the lean midrange, they open up opportunities to hear layers of vocals and instruments. I'm a weeb and like jpop and the likes, the vocalists I listen to tend to extend towards the 2-4khz area and unfortunately they do sound screechy due to the spike somewhere around the 4-6khz area. The treble is also an issue with vocals, if you pronounce the letter S, you'll notice that there is certain frequency that gets pronounced. With the Sundaras it's not natural, the treble spike is too emphasized on the lower part of the spectrum and comes off as metallic. What surprised me most is that they didn't perform well with EDM/electronic music due to the lower treble spike. Electronic music likes to play around with higher frequencies and it's a shame I didn't like the Sundaras for this genre. I have no comments when it comes to bass, I'm unfortunately spoiled by my Audeze iSine 20's which perform much better for sub-bass. The Sundara's bass digs deep but they seem to drop off fairly hard below 30hz, they don't particularly emphasize mid-bass. If anything the bass is just right. If you’ve never heard planar bass, the Sundara will amaze you. These Sundaras are also heavy, I put them on a scale and they weighed 400 grams. Fortunately though the weight distribution on the Sundaras are spectacular. They feel even lighter than a pair of Hyper X Cloud 2’s which go for 330 grams on the scale. This is due to the wide top headband that covers a lot of surface area and the clamping force. These headphones do clamp and IMO they should. The pads are also on the cooler side which is nice despite having the pleather outside. They don’t feel gross when it’s humid in my room like the HD600’s. For pairing, a warm amp will compliment the Sundara. I have an ODAC/O2 fitted with a Burson V5i opamp that actually mutes the 7khz treble and warms up the lower midrange of the Sundara. On my JDS Atom AMP/DAC, the Sundaras sound flat which is a different type of fun. The Sundaras upsides is detail retrieval, low volume listening for music, and someone who plays a game called Squad (3500+ hours), these appreciate loud gaming sessions. The Sundaras are not a pair of daily drivers. As someone who owns a pair of Galaxy Buds Plus and Apple Airpods, the Sundaras are the Galaxy Buds Plus, and the Sennheiser HD600’s would be Apple Airpods. The Apple Airpods just work with every genre and shows no flaws. They’re an earbud you put in your ears and they accept every genre despite the lack of sub bass. The Galaxy Buds Plus are technically superior and great for critical listening (phone calls), but, and I know some of you objective readers are going to cringe at this comment; but they don’t have that soul and warmth for general music listening. You might be wondering why I gave this headphone such a critical review. They're not bad, but they're not something I would give an absolute 5/5 to, the HD600 would be a 5/5. The Sundaras offer an amazing experience and the price to performance is just amazing compared to the HD600, but they're not a daily driver. Edit: Forgot to add soundstage and imaging. Sundaras win hands down best gaming headphone I've tried. It just throws detail out there and combine it with the sharp imaging, the HD600 doesn't even compete especially when it comes to frontal/rear sounds.

What amp would y’all recommend for these pair of headphones? Mainly going to be listening to bass-heavy music

Dollar for dollar, these are king.