Your videos should be closer to the mat! Can’t see anything

I just appreciate Caledor lists. even with Impetuous making Dragon Princes so ridiculously unreliable.

@@skeith1543 yeah no lol it’s bad rules

It's hard to enjoy the action when you're 5 feet from the models. Since I became a member to watch the Lost City campaign, all I see is how I wasted my money unfortunately. Love this channel, I live 3hrs away, love the close to home feel, but my goodness, barely any new sigmar videos, and the quality has steadily gone down

Is it hubris if they do it?

Why?

It is so good for the points, but I do find only certain armies are really hit by it. My elves for instance, low armour expensive

@@imalu5757 it’s the same as a Magic rank increase bro except the RRR is stuck at lvl 2

Definitely makes both players start sweating!

One can dream! Those models are a bit big!

@@lukapavicevic335 Maybe some day some one scan the aggradon model and scale the proportions down, adding a horn too ahhahahha.

Wood Elves only Elves lists would be awesome!

I LOVE YOU TOO

@@lukapavicevic335 - Pavicevic? Balkan origins ftw :D

@@AlwaysReason yes sir!

Yeah you cant fly over it, as stated in the FAQ

@@grlmgorI don’t see anything in the faq that suggests that, only that if it were dangerous they would still have to test for that

@@Syzl103If a unit with the Fly (X) special rule moves over a magical vortex that counts as dangerous terrain, is it affected by it? *Yes. Magical vortexes are considered tall enough to affect even models that are flying high above the battlefield.*

This is true, it is infinitely high! He flew over the crater in the middle of the battlefield though!

Does this now: A model with this special rule has a 6+ Ward save against any wounds suffered. In addition, a Wizard with this special rule may wear armour without penalty.

We did remember, but decided we could have swapped the spell order as well! 😅

He is in love with them, don’t let him trick you!

I wish it was that easy! 😢

Holy! That is a hell of a find!

Monster Slayer is why my Vampire Count is on a Coven Throne. Does not work on chariots :)

@@stoephil I know mate, it's why I do the lore wise wrong move and make my necromancer on the mortis engine my general as well. Keeping him in the back casting spells with 8 wounds armor save, ward and regen, so I can unleash my vampire without worrying about my entire army crumbling. We get punished too hard for our general dying to risk having him die to a lucky 6.

This video was more to show how important it is to include Monster Slayer in your list! A lot people out there asking how to deal with nasty dragon builds, Monster Slayer is the key! A premeditated game that Steve and I planned a bit ago, without the sword the Vampire on Zombie Dragon outclasses other options people can bring! The High Elves would have had next to no chance in this matchup typically

@@lukapavicevic335 thank you for answering first of All... Personally i would avoid any creature with monster slayer like the plague though, so it does depend on that charge even going off. You would be better off getting your knights into his dragon, his sword would not do much against you and his dragon would average 7-8 wounds including stomps which you would have a 4+ save and a 5+ regen against. Furthermore you should reconsider using dogs as a shield for the knights. Sure, you are more open to missile fire, but if he overruns into you, you lose the chance to cointercharge which is the perfect charge to get off for blood knights, since you can then do invocation in the following turn, rather than you charging yourself and then go two combat phases before being healed. But as I said, all in all a thumps up. I just wish we could have seen what your zombie dragon could do... And since you Guys used a star dragon to deal with a dragon, your point about how to deal with a dragon is rather moot ;) now you just had one side with a dragon with All its wounds left rather than both sides having one. Edit: Lets see Steve commit to that charge on his elven steed, rather than being protected by a star dragon is my point :). Then we could talk about monster slayer alone being a fix against dragons.

Well you can take, Dragon Slaying Sword, Dragon Helm, Opal Amulet and Seed of Rebirth for 100 to. The Opal Amulet give you a better shot at monster slayer or cannon. The Dragon Helm is just to good to not included in any High Elves army. Full Plate + Barding + Dragon Helm = 2+ save with a Great Weapon that strike in initiative order. *Note* Steve didn't have the Opal Amulet.

@@grlmgor iDC lol no fing Ward save

Smart!!

Steve dispelled it

​@@andrewcharlton6080you are right...

This was the first step in MANY things going wrong 😂

@@lukapavicevic335 nonentheless i like your relaxed joyous attitude towards playiing the game 😉

@@simoneengelleitner947 It helps when I mentally prepare myself for the worst case scenario beforehand 😂

Wow! Why can’t it be typical Steve rolling?!?

really? Why? Spear skeletons seem pretty awesome.

@@skeith1543 Hit bad and twice as expensive as zombies. Would you rather have 40 skellies that to next to nothing, or 80 Zombies that do nothing?

@@leanderschuster3196 i'd rather have 40 skeletons with a 5+ armor and 6+ regen that can hit with twice as many attacks due to spears and fear the target if possible. Maybe even get a ward save on there too.

@@leanderschuster3196Both Zombies and Skeletons are awful at hitting so damage dealing will never be the reason to take them. Zombies may be cheaper but you lose less Skeletons thanks to their 5+ save, that in turn means you lose combat by less and lose fewer additional Skeletons to combat res. That should mean it’s easier to keep them topped up with Nehek and if you have multiple characters with Nehek they can spread it across the army more. Zombies are very cheap but you lose so many in a turn against pretty much anything that it’s not worth even trying to keep them topped up with Nehek. They are a throw away unit but if you use them as that they can still do a job. I think all of our infantry is good at slightly different things

@@skeith1543 If you have to charge, the spears do nothing. If you're hit really, really hard, the spears do nothing. If you're hit with greatweapons (which seem quite common) or anything else AP2, the light armor and shield does nothing. In all those cases, a zombie is kind of like a 2W skeleton, point for point, with the only real drawback the huge footprint of an 8x5 zombie unit. Then there is the fact you raise zombies, skeletons and grave guard exactly the same way. If you are throwing Invocations at a unit, you can be raising 3 point zombies, 6 point skeletons or 12 point grave guard.

The visual of a greater demon getting it's head lopped off and banished back to the warp is to badass not to have in the game.

fix how?

@@Alpharius2479 I mean, it seems pretty apparent that they are a problem balance-wise. I'm not sure exactly the best way to address the problem, but that doesn't mean that I can't point out that there is a problem

Really? It just comes down to overpowered builds that you keep repeatedly seeing. Heroes from their respective armies with their respective auto include magic items that went together. Make them very hard to deal with. Every game I've played and watched so far with big monstrous characters, They seem to always pay for themselves and most often can do so twice over. And this instance, the vampire Lord was pretty much just a complete sunk cost, but it's just so lame, IMO, to have an insta kill mechanic that's pretty reliable. Really? I think they just need to go and tone down some of the rules that make them so strong. Not sure if it would be core rules mechanic that could be changed or you'd have to go in and address each suspect build specifically.

Well, Monster Slayer sword is only good when you already know that you are facing monsters. Otherwise... That's a gamble with possibly 50 points in the drain and a useless magic weapon (no strength bonus, no AP) on your character.

fun for me, they're no longer fragile and near useless if the enemy brings a cannon or 10.

@@skeith1543 Yah I get that, I should have been more specific that they dont really contribute to a good livestream / video. They typically make things go to extremes, both of which aren't much fun to watch

I think they're fine as a one-of at 2500 and up but not before.

@@skeletonfish110 i mean... we could've had an awesome dragon fight, but someone brought the one hit sword and it went off. that's what killed the Fun.

@@skeith1543 yep agree 100%, definitely ruined this video

This was never going to be a super interesting batrep given both lists. If Steve didn't do what he did all we were gonna get was a grinding loss for the HE and that wasn't gonna be overly fun to watch either

And that would have changed what exactly?

​@@leanderschuster3196​ I think from their perspective it is not showing the full potential of said Army which can give the impression for others it sucks. You can see it could paint a picture and maybe channels like this have an obligation to show the full potential. However, it is a game between friends and having fun over by the book rules, Dave constantly forgets his stuff until Nick from Play on Tabletop Reminds from last time but it was a brilliant video.

@@ShonenXIV Properly playing an army shows they are serious about earning the viewership and (more importantly) the money people send them to produce quality videos. For the gameplay, he could have positioned his wolves to take charges in a way that would leave his opponent vulnerable and his Blood knights in a position to charge said vulnerable units. Friendly play or not, this is their job and they should be doing it well.

@@chrisbolliger5717So I am a big advocate for NOT redirecting units out of position, I’m very vocal about this. I understand it’s part of the game, but I’ll still never do it. We never forgot any of the rules you mentioned earlier, they just weren’t relevant! I never needed to march with a Dark Vitality unit, the dogs only needed to move 8” to stand in front of the Dragon Knights, and there was never a moment where I needed the banner to reduce crumbling. It’s s a waste of time to go over every mechanic that MIGHT have mattered.

@@lukapavicevic335 So what is the purpose of your battle reports then? Not playing the game or the armies to their potential doesn't do anything towards showcasing the game or the armies. It doesn't help viewers with rules that they may have questions on. It doesn't do a good job of promoting MWG since it shows that "half-assed is good enough." And for entertainment value it's like watching two sports teams that are competing for who wants last place the most. MWG used to have some quality videos. That has changed. I understand that losing a single viewer is nothing to you. It is what it is.

Sorry unenjoyable!

*That what she said*

Only a few horses were in b2b at that initiative step after the wounds

@@Syzl103 doesnt matter, the whole first rank fights.

@@Syzl103the whole ‘fighting rank’ fights. B2b is w throwback to 8th and earlier editions.