It's her agency mistake, Pushed her too hard to sing as high af

@@ninamarshiella7680 honestly source music destroyed yuju's voice by forcing her to sing too many high notes that are out of her range, just compare her masked singer performance to her recent performances, there is a noticeable decline.

Every singer experienced that, lucky for yuju she can now hit G5, it's not that herbrange is changing, she's changing her technique to make it less shouty.

Why are you so sure she will never do it again?

Milando Pratama Becusde her vocals are deteriorating after years of hitting really high notes

its not resonant as far as im aware

@@aeivyyy it is resonant and thats so random.

@@yaemirko its not though, from what i can tell her soft palate isnt even lifted

@@aeivyyy its not my personal thought, i have seen many people who are calling resonant for that note. about the soft plate, actually that video is from 2015, so her cords weren’t damaged. she was all belter at that time.

@@yaemirko i know that, she still didn’t have a resonant F5 cause she’s not raising her soft palate there

Dangerous?

@@anuj4263 according to vocalist, that high note nearly destroyed Yuju's voice but she's recovering

@@havemilk2463 omg really? Can she get back to when she was in her prime or is she permanently damaged?

@@anuj4263 she hasn't permanently damaged her voice. She is getting better but she is still struggling

@@havemilk2463 was the tftmn high note the only one that damaged her voice?

That's the problem in Kpop many idols are not consistent with their support. Even those in the vocal line can be inconsistent with their support.

Not best but good vocalist, there are some better vocalist than mamamoo, like wendy & yuju.

@@mailanapriyolestariyanto3740 it actually said group and i think the recent yuju is either above or below hwasa

@@mailanapriyolestariyanto3740 i’m a reveluv, but i do agree mamamoo’s the best vocal group, they focus more on vocals and they all have strong vocalists, but if we ought to talk about individual vocalists, it’s wendy :)

@@wendy9481 Yes, wendy is a complete package singer, low, mix, hv, agility.

@@wendy9481 as a moomoo i agree, wendy is technically the best vocalist. anyways, stan mamavelvet ✨

𝗌𝗎𝗉𝗉𝗈𝗋𝗍 𝗂𝗌𝗇'𝗍 𝖺𝖻𝗈𝗎𝗍 𝖻𝖾𝗂𝗇𝗀 𝗌𝗍𝖺𝖻𝗅𝖾, 𝗂𝗍𝗌 𝖺𝖻𝗈𝗎𝗍 𝖻𝖾𝗂𝗇𝗀 𝗁𝖾𝖺𝗅𝗍𝗁𝗒, 𝗈𝗉𝖾𝗇 𝖺𝗇𝖽 𝗋𝖾𝗅𝖺𝗑𝖾𝖽.

@@edu.8552 I know excactly, but i just said about how stable she is, if you know her range, her healthy vocals when she do a highnote or even whistle without move her neck up, absolutely relaxed and thats amazing among kpop group, i just love her with her talent, she can play drum, piano, perfectly amazing dancer, rapping, songwriter, choreographer, photographer, al the way genius Wheein. The real artist

*one of the best

one of the best*

Yaiza Ananda wendy is the best vocalist that debuted in 2013-2020(that is also when most ppl consider that 3d gen started)so that’s why she’s the best 3d gen vocalist. Shannon isn’t really focused as a kpop idol and more like an artist who occasionally promotes with choreo’s lmao.

@@izonexbae i mean there's solar and yuju too

Yaiza Ananda well yes of course but Wendy still beats them, she has better lows better and healthier mixed register better agility better dynamics and transitions and overall has the widest support. Solar beats Wendy in A4-C#5 area but that’s only bc Solar is way more consistent with resonance but Wendy has shown the ability to resonate aswell so it’s nott hat big of a deal. Yuju would be frst in terms of resonance but she hasn’t been resonating since 2018/19.

i love it when yeonjung mixes chesty

Sandeul isn't 3rd Gen. B1A4 debuted at 2011 (2nd Gen).

Wushy Oh, yeah, Imm edit my comment 😅

@@ieltcsn4712 Chen is the best 3rd Gen male vocalist since Kyuhyun, Sandeul and Ryeowook are in 2nd Gen, and Hwanhee although his vocal type confuses me.

Wushy yep, Hwanhee sounds like a Baritone, but being able to push his chest that high makes me think he could be a lower placed tenor sometimes

@@ieltcsn4712 Yeah he's sounded sometimes as a baritone or a dramatic tenor.

Yes! Let's go 😍

Yepp her highest supported note is C5

@@BirdHater hi, do you have the link?

@@wenreneisreal6668 Sure! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/a96hntp028emoKs.html 3:08

@@wenreneisreal6668 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/sNdmfbGjtcm0YXk.html

2 out of 5 members are main vocalists but honestly all 5 of them could be main vocalists depending on what other group you theoretically put them in

Spitting facts:)

And all of them have supported range,even their most rap focused member has the same support of an average main vocal in the late 3rd gen and better than most of 4th gen

@@justaboy343 do you know their supported range ??

Agree. And i really hate it when people act like she's the worst main vocal in kpop while she's not even in weak category and there's many main vocal that is worse than her

And ppl have to stop to called jisoo or jennie have better techniq than rose, because they never better.

@@hexawira7134 ya and that is rose and she is in the weak category

Say it Louder Sis !!!

Hello, L

Really? Can you show me?

@@vity9534 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Y9p-YNRhqcyUm40.html - 0:28 is supported until the D5 (tense on the B4 and C5 but support is defo present), exact same at 1:18

@@MBAbhay not really she had some good placement on Bb4-C5 doesn't mean these were supported

@@badbada3003 Hmm, they definitely sounded supported to me... there was tension but the support was present in the phrased Bb4-C5 area. Ahmin from kpopvocalanalysis agrees on that (someone asked him about this performance). Mind telling me what makes you think those were particularly shallow?

@@MBAbhay i don't think they were supported the tension, airiness, the larynx to be called supported i would still say she supported A4 at her best

@@bhaijit3725 better than minnie? acceptable. Better than miyeon? Not really

@@itsmepotatogrande9335 I'm starting to think yuqi edges Miyeon, her mix has more control and their support quality seems to be the same.

minnie is best vocalist in gidle. tbh i think that yuqi should be main, no miyeon

Azim Syahimi Sadly they don’t have true support at all, even at G4 :”

Azim Syahimi Sadly they don’t have true support at all, even at G4 :”

pazzoio nah she’s super super super shallow, and is very airy.Someone tried to convince me to say that she supports A4’s but i didn’t hear any support except for tension.

@@minkyu19 wait really? Idk about Minnie but Hyojung sounds like she at least has support. Maybe not in her debut but recently her vocals improved a lot (especially in Queendom)

Azim Syahimi Hyojung has some good moments up to Bb4 but because it’s fairly inconsistent we can’t really say she has true support. Sinc eher lower register is also shallow, she also sings very tight and closes her throat

why? I saw comments that destroyed her voice. Whats the reason?

@@austinalvarez2297 she regressed too much. Her regression is *the biggest regression in kpop* She was close to being in the same category as tae, Wendy, eunji etc. But she's now below *jihyo*

@@redvelvetismyreligion9871 you mean she can't do beltings, main vocal stuff? and what is regression?. I'm so sorry for my ignorance :(

@@austinalvarez2297 regression means damage to your voice and vocal cords by singing too much high notes which are *out of your supported range* *yuju used to sing high notes which are out of her range*

Ikr she was so good even in her predebut clips she have always got good techniques & potentials to keep improving, but I think its since "time for the moonlight" (?) era yuju's vocals started regressing that she even had to take a break. Even in "apple" era yes sure she can hit that G5 but it was poorly executed & she's struggling in encores. They should've just let her sing in her comfortable range & it'd still sounds beautiful. Really hope she'll heal & get better.

Yeongjung C#5 seems supported though she is only consistent up to Bb4/B4, Kei's C5 is supported tho, she actually supported C5 quite consistent actually.

This was created on 2019 when Jihyo was not yet capable of supporting C5s. She is capable now tho

They are actually supported.

jihyo's c5's make me so proud of her, their choreo was so intensive too likd omg

even redvelvet's joy and twice's mina who can support A4 isn't in this list:(

@@hotissue4948 they are super shallow.

Sujeong doesn't support, Baby Soul does support but shallow around B3 ~ G4/G#4. Jin does support up to A4

Actually this isnt a "best vocal" competition (bcz your range is something tha you born with) and this rank is really wrong actually. Jin from Lovelyz e Yuri from IZONE support really above them that. But thanks god you arent a TWICE hater I was ready to fight with you so I read your comment better But yes, this rank has a lot of misinformation

@@ikaru5089 yeah, there's also clips of Nayeon supporting C5 and Jihyo also supporting C5

@@othebomb1980 nayeon’s supported a C5? i know jihyo has but i had no idea about nayeon. would you happen to have a clip? id love to see that 💕

@@teenysss gonna be honest I don't remember which but it was during one of her sixteen performances

@@othebomb1980 isn't nayeon chorus in heart shaker is Eb5-F5? and she doing it live, cmiiw

I think it's okay include lipsync vocals to be in their supported range, why? Because it's supported

@@vity9534 what? Jihyo for example has support a live C5-D5 Same with Nayeon and jeongyeon

@@nothing9208 where?

@@vity9534 Nayeon kzfaq.info/get/bejne/f7l2o7qom9yqdGw.html 0:34 Jihyo kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rtl7g7eE1sCWlHU.html 3:03

@@nothing9208 Jihyo D5 isn't supported tho, she was just having a good placement there

It's their highest supported notes. Not their consistent support notes. Nayeon supports A4/Bb4 but the support is too shallow usually to be called fully supported. And she is the second best vocalist. How about another vocalist that are lower than her? The only one who can really support her voice consistently is jihyo. But i don't think they deserve the hate. They are not really that bad. My point is being here doesn't make one really good vocalist and the higher notes they get doesn't equal the better vocalist they are. For example yuju is on the F5 but consistently she supports up to C#5, seunghee OMG usually support up to C5 but she get D5 here. But some vocalist like soojung ladies code got her highest supported notes here as her supported range because she consistently supported until Bb4.

fudanshi akut Yuju regressed like crazy she has way too much tension on her C#5’s and there are performances where she strained them.

@@izonexbae Sadly she regressed due to overused singing super high af, Why kpop music always forced them to sing as high af, I mean Let Sohyang, SSY, Ailee, Lee Haeri does it, dont make these young girls lose their voice before 30's

nine A yea and the issue is, they could’ve divided the notes bc Eunha & SinB are perfectly capable of them but no they gave EVERYTHING to Yuju

@@izonexbae That's why their agency sucks 😂 I love how SM doesn't really push Wendy too hard, eventhough she doesn't resonate often, she still support her D5's, SM makes Luna lost her E5, they must be regret it, and does better for Wendy, i guess

Yes, she definitely can support her voice. At the moment it’s safe to say she can support A4 consistently (in her cover Price Tag, and the “싶어” (shipeo) part in ITZY’s new song Wannabe. Also her A4 is pretty easier, more comfortable when comparing with Miyeon who doesn’t support consistently it

@@minkyu19 Cool! So, how would you rank Chuu (LOONA), Yuri (IZ*ONE), MIYEON (G-IDLE), Mia (EVERGLOW), and LIA (ITZY) in terms of vocals overall?

I believed LiA had stronger sense of support than other girls, Chuu doesn’t really support so...Miyeon had throatiness as low as G#4 so she is on weaker side, Yuri and Mia are pretty same strenghth

The “싶어” (shipeo) part I have mentioned in the first reply is in this encore kzfaq.info/get/bejne/i56Tfs6eu67GmGw.html

@@minkyu19 Thank you!

Unsupported notes sound forced/restrained/painful. But I haven't watch the video tho

@@Bongi344 Not necessarily. That's the definition of a strained note, more or less. A note can be unsupported and without being strained.

@@BirdHater you're right, I should've add "might sounds". Also it can be shaky too.

Bro, you should understand the reason for the famous vocalist like Eunha, SinB or Siyeon (Dreamcatcher) weren’t on there bc they have no proper support at all, their supported range is N/A

Yeah i'm just curious... thanks tho...

Hello, I was going to ask about Siyeon, I’m surprised she doesn’t support at all.

Lim Hui Ben Siyeon shallow support, the Yoohyuen or something has better support i think

@@minkyu19 And those fcking stupid fans called Taeyeon, Wendy are not even in Siyeon's level, she can't even hold her breath sense

Yes..... But no They are both Good For A singer But you cant Resonate without Support But Resonance is Better than Support(Think of it as Support But upgraded Version)and I'm not professional im Just Sharing what i know For now :P

@@vichidavichi8871 thank you

ressonance and support are wrong terms, the correct terms are : Support = Grounded Ressonant = Ringing Grounded : when the note is full, well placed, neutral larynx(lower register & belting), without unessessary tension Ringing : same as support, but with an open sound, similar to an echo.

(t/n: these are all approximate notes) Baby Soul supports to Ab4, Jinsol and Hyojung have really shallow support (if any) so I don't consider that they truly support for now, Jueun A4-Bb4, Suyeon B4, Chuu Bb4-B4, and for others I'm not familiar enough with them

Tri Bui wrong, chuu doesn’t really support at all, she always sings with shallow, thin tone to compare with true supported B4 from Yeonjung, Jihyo,... kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rbFknJmn0Ni2das.html she doesn’t open her throat at A4, let alone B4. Jinsol is even worse, she doesn’t support at all and she always shouts like Leo guy from Vixx. Suyeon has some weak support tho. If there is a girl support her voice in loona it must be Haseul instead bonus strained Bb4 from Jooeun kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fbRhgpRn0LzZYKM.html strained Bb4 from Chuu kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ipmodpCk2ci8kXU.html

@@izonexbae??? Chuu doesn't even support above Bb4

Babysoul lovelyz : G#4(shallow) April jinsol : don't have support range. Bcs in April, only chaewon have supported range. Chaekyung relaxing at G#4 Oh my girl hyojung : bb4?(shallow) Dia jueun : don't have supported range Suyeon Weki Meki : Bb3-Bb4(shallow) Fromis_9 Jiwon : A3/Bb3-Bb4/B4 Chuu Loona : B3-G#4 Cherry bullet haeyoon : ?-A4/Bb4(shallow) Cmiiw

@@muhammadjihadannabil9193 Jueun does support actually around A3 ~ B4/C5.

No, her consistency ends at Bb4.

@@vampiregaming9820 its not abt consistency, its HIGHEST SUPPORTED NOTES, You idiot

@@vampiregaming9820 she supported some b4 but her consistency end at bb4

Only Chaewon supports in IZONE other than Yuri (yes, Eunbi, Yena, Chaeyeon and Yujin don't support at all), and even then her support range is even less than that of Yuri

@@tribui3252 chaeyeon support B4

@@vity9534 heck no, Chaeyeon doesn't support at all

@@tribui3252 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Z7-GZ9GQmqfbkqs.html 2:04 & kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iJZgf7F-zLjHYoU.html 0:51

GG 4EVA I already hear a high larynx/glottal tension on the G4 before her Veryx3 high note, so no that B4 is definitely not supported...

Bcz this rank is wrong lmao even I can support a B4 and I'm an alto

@@ikaru5089 alto is just a choir part though, you can be a soprano and sing alto parts. Also it's not impossible for sopranos to not be able to support C5 (me lol) like how it's also possible for mezzos and contraltos to have developed head voices

@@nicolegoh9748 like giselle from aespa and karina from aespa, they both are a alto in choir but they are a soprano

I think you meant supported C5's..?

@@BirdHater no, borderline C#5

@@diegooo283 "Bornerline" is still considered unsupported.

Jamie went to C#5 at her best support moments. Dia is Eb5 Wendy is Eb5 as her highest Nayeon at best is Bb4

Nama DIA ialah DIA 3:50

Even at Bb4/B4 she had trouble to keep her throat relaxed from glottal/throat tension so no. Nasality isn’t overwhelm is her voice tho

@@minkyu19 okay i want to ask, does she supported C5 in here? Or that C5 just sound loud? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gOBpaKWb1cvThZc.html

the quality of video is not good so it’s hard to tell, also the c5 lack of true support and sound shallow

@@minkyu19 i want to ask again shshshshsh, kzfaq.info/get/bejne/o9aKoZhhls68fZc.html in 3:18 does she support B4 or straining?

GG 4EVA B4 is pretty hard for her, that's not bad but the reverb of music background is pretty large so it's hard to identify her voice. it's lack of true support too

Yeahh she support up to A4

Exactly also with Bb4s making her a low C- but people don't wanna accept it

@@galleryofspices4 No actually, i was wrong. Rosé is consistent with Ab3-Bb4 only. Her B4’s need some work. But she’s already a low C- bc of the consistency with her Bb4’s

@@tenznor2758 I'm talking about Bb4s only. And no, her B4s some times sound pretty close to be consistent and considered as support. Mostly her B4s are relaxed . And another thing she had a shallow support before but now she's a fully a low C- .

@@tenznor2758shes A3/Bb3~Bb4

Daddy pig lover ur a bitch i saw u hating on rosé in a other video rosé can easily support A4s

You'd be surprised at how many people who do these videos still listen and like singers who can't support, knowing who're skilled in the technical sense is just a fun thing to know and it's fine to listen and like others who may not be as good

Also sometimes we do discover singers who aren't as well known but can sing well so it goes both ways :) like not a lot of people know about Spica for eg, or a lot of people dismiss singers like Twice's vocal line when they aren't all that bad

@@nicolegoh9748 and Pink fantasy Yechan, she is very underrated yet a great vocalist

Bora's highest supported note is Bb4